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00:00Child abuse is a physical, sexual, or emotional maltreatment or neglect of a child or children.
00:06It includes any act of a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm,
00:12or threat of harm to a child.
00:14There are four major categories of child abuse.
00:17Neglect, physical abuse, psychological or emotional abuse, and sexual abuse.
00:24Sexual abuse refers to the participation of a child in a sexual act aimed towards the
00:29physical gratification or the financial profit of the person committing the act.
00:3440 million children subjected to abuse each year.
00:39About 20% of women and 5-10% of men report that they were sexually abused as children.
00:47Statistics indicate that 3 million young girls are subjected to genital mutilation every
00:53year.
00:54In the United States, every 10 seconds a child is abused or raped.
00:59One out of three girls and one out of five boys will be sexually abused before they reach
01:06age 18.
01:0790% of the victims know their abuser well and 68% of the abusers are family members.
01:14Six children will commit suicide due to child abuse.
01:242011's Silence is a South Korean movie by Dong Hyuk Wong, award winner, director, and
01:49also this movie has been awarded by the Audience Award at the 2012 Udine Far East Film Festival
01:58in Italy.
01:59The story is about an art teacher that he moves to a small town to work in a school
02:08for deaf children, but after a while he finds out that these kids, they have been assaulted
02:17by teachers and administrators of the school.
02:23So he talks with a human rights activist and they bring this story up and they try to save
02:31these kids.
02:33But despite all the evidence that the teacher and his friend, human rights activist, they
02:40bring to the court against the principals and those teachers because police and also
02:48DA are involved in this case so they try to shut down the case and they don't let them
02:54to bring up this case in the national court.
03:10Silence was a really intense movie.
03:12I really felt so bad after I watched it.
03:15I honestly, I wanted to cry.
03:17I was really drained, like literally exhausted.
03:24It took a lot out of me.
03:25The Silence movie, yeah, and the Take My Eyes movie was a little bit easier on being able
03:33to view than this one.
03:35This one is just, it's just, it's just the sheer inhumanity and just, you know, absolutely.
03:44Exactly the structure of the movie, those kids, they were helpless.
03:49They were helpless.
03:50And they were deaf so they couldn't tell anybody what's going on with their life and how they
03:56have been abused or raped in the school.
04:01And nobody, even when the story came out, nobody still believed them.
04:25It was a case of the perfect villains and the perfect victims in a way, these very upstanding
04:29individuals.
04:30Well, who they could tell is also limited because not everybody understands sign language.
04:37Yeah, exactly.
04:38Or, you know, be able to understand.
04:39Or just not love in some way, you know, worship, you know, the bad guys.
04:45And even the principal, he didn't know the sign language.
04:50That was kind of weird that you are in charge of a school for deaf people, but you can't
04:57use sign language.
04:59It was so weird.
05:00Yeah.
05:01You know, it was a bit glaring, but again, he was so beloved as a member of the church.
05:06Exactly.
05:07And I think that was the point of the director that this is, this whole entire story is much
05:14political than be humane about humanity.
05:18It's all about politics.
05:21That guy looks a nice guy and because he looks a nice guy, so he became in charge of a school.
05:26So there was no law that would tell him, okay, you can't open this school because you don't
05:34have enough skill to handle situation.
05:38But based on he had a big name, not even good name, but big name in that city, so they could
05:46give him that opportunity to have this school.
05:49There was no background check.
05:51There was no questioning that what's going on with you.
05:55They were totally wrong people to have that school.
05:58They got there solely on reputation and, you know.
06:02Well, not solely on reputation, because they had this money going between.
06:07The development fund.
06:08The development fund.
06:09You know, exactly.
06:12This story is about child abuse, but turns to the worst part.
06:18Small town corruption as well.
06:19Right.
06:20Exactly.
06:21But what turns, about child abuse, my point is goes to the worst part, because in the
06:26child abuse, the worst, one of the worst part, the most important part you can talk is raping
06:31children.
06:33And on the other hand, raping deaf children.
06:38It's a double whammy.
06:39It's, you know, because they're.
06:40Exactly.
06:41Children alone don't have the ability to speak up for themselves.
06:45That's why they have CASA and they have all these other.
06:47It takes so much for them to do that anyways.
06:48Right.
06:49And most of them, they're orphans.
06:51And even those few that they have family, like that grandma.
06:55Well, the way they.
06:56I think they were careful with selecting the victims, you know, with not strong family
07:01units behind them.
07:02Exactly.
07:03Like, they have been chosen one by one to make sure these people, like this is one of
07:09the dialogues of that young teacher.
07:12He says, like, they have no help from outside because then the story takes to the court.
07:20They just go and the grandma is a poor, comes from a poor family, so they give her some
07:28money and.
07:29Essentially just her.
07:30Settles.
07:31It's just her.
07:32She has nobody else.
07:33Yeah.
07:34And even she doesn't know what's going on.
07:35And she has no idea.
07:36That's right, that's it.
07:38Settles.
07:39Settles.
07:40Settles.
07:41Min-Soo's grandma.
07:42When she saw the money, she signed it right away.
07:43It's so funny.
07:44No matter how poor she is and how ill-educated she is, how can she settle for a few pennies
07:45when her grandchildren have been through so much?
07:46She has only one son, and he's the son of a mountain.
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08:20She doesn't know what does it mean.
08:31Just they tell her, okay, there was some problem and they're going to take us to the court.
08:36Take this money and settle and she settles.
08:39Yeah.
08:40They pray on her ignorance.
08:41Exactly.
08:42You know, her lack of understanding.
08:44And that's kind of explains when the brother at the beginning of the movie, when you see
08:50he goes front of the train and he dies in there.
08:54As he can't, you know, he's had enough and...
08:57It's so funny because if this thing happen, usually should go to newspapers, should go
09:04to media.
09:05A kid died on the rail by train, okay.
09:11They're going to investigate what happens and why this kid...
09:15And this kid, why was in there?
09:18He was supposed to be in that school, but nobody investigates.
09:24Nobody tries to understand.
09:25And that story goes away.
09:28We don't hear anything about that.
09:30Just later when he tries to talk to that teacher, we hear that he says, yeah, my brother died.
09:38At the beginning, we don't know what's going on with this kid.
09:41But that's, I guess, director gives us a sign that there is some problem in this town.
09:47Yeah.
09:48Especially when he's driving in and he sees that train.
09:55He sees a train, he visions, I think, the train is hitting the boy.
10:01Yeah.
10:02But when he walks up, it's a deer or something.
10:05That was before, that was like when he was driving to his end.
10:09When he was driving in, he hit that animal.
10:11Yeah.
10:12I was thinking it was happening simultaneously while...
10:32Yeah, that was kind of match caught.
10:35He had that incident and there was the same incident.
10:40Director tried to make a parallel cut between these two that show as much as that animal
10:49was helpless, this kid is helpless.
10:55And I guess it worked.
10:56I guess it worked well.
10:57Yeah.
10:58It was a piece of film that was really interesting to watch and it was really well shot together.
11:04Overall, the thing that just got to me that was so hard to sit through was just the actual
11:09acts themselves.
11:10Yeah.
11:11And like, especially that scene in the bathroom, it just gave me chills.
11:14You just see the head come over the...
11:16And the fear of the child.
11:17Yeah.
11:18Yeah.
11:19And the startling fear.
11:20Yeah, exactly.
11:21And kind of for those scenes, I was, first when it started, I said, okay, why should
11:28be this kind of scene?
11:30They're showing it, child rape in the movie.
11:35But after all, what I saw, I saw, okay, those scenes, they made the movie more sad.
11:46You know?
11:47I felt so bad.
11:48It made it more honest.
11:49More honest.
11:50Yeah.
11:51More honest.
11:52I think we're so used to, when Hollywood does take on these sort of subjects in the UK,
11:58I think other countries, they tend to just, you know, they would cut away.
12:02They would leave the bathroom stall and just show crying from the bathroom door.
12:05The fact that this director decided to stay there, I think was so brave of him.
12:10Yeah, most of the time, they just move the camera and you hear something screaming.
12:15Yeah, you don't see it in typical Hollywood.
12:18And I didn't see much of these kind of scenes in other South Korean films.
12:24I guess it was so new and the director was so brave to do that.
12:28It really was.
12:29And it's...
12:30But it really spoke the point, though.
12:31Yeah.
12:32Exactly.
12:33Yeah.
12:34But it was just really hard to take.
12:37And yeah, exactly.
12:38That was why I'm saying I really want to know those people, when they were making this movie,
12:47how they did feel.
12:49I mean, I don't think there's anyone on that, there could be anyone on that set that would
12:53not have been affected by that.
12:55Yeah, exactly.
12:56Let alone...
12:57You couldn't be.
12:58No.
12:59There's...
13:00In some form or fashion, even if you just do a small part of it, the impact of it...
13:05And that's like a...
13:06I mean, those type of scenes, I imagine, would take a couple of days to get shot and...
13:10Yeah, I'm sure.
13:11To have to go through that, just set up after set up after set, and time after time after
13:14time, and it's just like...
13:15Well, so many actors and actresses, they talk about how they really don't see the whole
13:20film.
13:21You know, they just see parts of it.
13:22But even in this, I don't see how you could just see parts of it and not be impacted,
13:29because it's just constantly throughout the whole film.
13:33I mean, it's just...
13:34And it's like that scene that really gave me such chills as well was when...
13:38That comes also from the...
13:40The brothers?
13:41The system of lightening of the film, because it's all the time what we see is so dark,
13:48and he uses lots of darkness instead of using lots of light.
13:52But the...
13:53You know, the...
13:55He does use the bright lights as well, though, and when he uses them, they're very harrowing.
13:59They're very harrowing.
14:00That one scene with the two brothers, when he's like washing one of them, I thought,
14:04oh my God, I can't watch this anymore.
14:06This is just so like...
14:08Yeah, but as you said, that was good because then when they go through the court,
14:19you can feel better.
14:20You can not feel better, you can give more rights to those kids.
14:29I believe if they wouldn't show those scenes, then it was really hard to say something about...
14:36Because that's exactly what Hollywood does.
14:38So we don't see the scenes, we hear about that.
14:41It softens the blood.
14:42It doesn't want you to feel uncomfortable.
14:44They don't want you to feel uncomfortable for the most part.
14:46But this director wants you to feel comfortable.
14:48I think he wants us to know, like, this is what they went through.
14:53He wants to give them a voice, for lack of a better word.
14:56What I saw, the director was trying to be the voice of those children.
15:02And it worked well.
15:03I believe it worked well because this movie awarded a lot.
15:06This was their story.
15:08This was their story, and this is what happened.
15:10The timing was probably right, though, because if he had tried to do it any sooner, it would
15:16have been too fresh on people's minds and maybe stir up too much emotion and stir up
15:23other things.
15:24At the same time, you don't want them to forget about it.
15:25Right.
15:26Yeah.
15:27Let their storm go cold at the same time.
15:28So it was good.
15:29You kind of want that healing process to take place before bringing forth another set of
15:36reason for emotions, too.
15:39I really was taken by sort of the arcs of the two, the character arcs of the two leads.
15:44I thought they were just so, they both came in, they were both in their own sort of situations.
15:49He was, you know, hoping to get this promising career.
15:51She was a mess.
15:52Also, I liked how they structured and designed the teacher's character.
15:59Yeah.
16:00You know, didn't jump at the first point what the problem he has in his life.
16:09Doctor explains that later when we are in the middle of the incident and he's facing
16:16what the problem and he's trying to fix problems.
16:19So what we know before that he was traveling a lot and he had a kid that lives with his
16:28mom and yeah, his mom takes to doctor all the time, but we don't know what is exactly
16:35the problem.
16:36It doesn't seem so serious problem.
16:37But when mom moves to the town, brings the kid, we see that's the serious problem and
16:43he needs this money.
17:08Well, we obviously know right from the get-go that his livelihood, his family's livelihood
17:14is resting on this career and this is his chance to make everything happen for them.
17:19And so he needs to make this work.
17:21Honestly, in some scene I started to hate this guy, you know, especially that time he
17:26brings flowers for the principal.
17:29Oh, you're like, why is he doing that?
17:31Yeah, it's crazy.
17:34He knows what's going on.
17:35I started getting upset with him from the first instance where he saw the brother, I
17:40can't remember his name, the one that...
17:43There was a chief and then there was a principal.
17:45Yeah, when he was punishing him for being late or running away or something.
17:49Oh, that was another teacher.
17:52Another teacher, yes.
17:53Yeah, it was another teacher.
17:54But he just walked in and was like, oh, what are you doing?
17:57He was late.
17:58And it was like, oh, okay.
17:59And then I thought, well, wait a minute.
18:02Well, I think the teacher was in, it kind of showed the compromising situation that
18:07the teacher is in.
18:09He's all of a sudden noticing that all these different things are actually going on and,
18:16you know, the morality of it and then versus, you know, having to pay the money to the development
18:26fund, which is basically quiet money.
18:29That was the crazy part.
18:31You are going to work for somebody and then you have to pay for it.
18:34Yeah.
18:59He was buying his job.
19:10Yeah.
19:11And I guess that was a little bit success of the director that show, was kind of head
19:19up for the later, to show how in this society money is important.
19:26And later, you are not going to be surprised when you see DA gives up from the case.
19:33And even the, you know, the governor and everybody, they give up and they back off because it's
19:39just because of the money, you know.
19:43You can buy everybody.
19:44It's easier for some people just to turn a blind eye and say, I'm not going to get involved.
19:47I'm not going to put myself out there.
19:49But that flower pot thing was also a turning point, I think, because, you know, it was
19:56a symbolic thing.
19:57You know, he was going to take this flower, the organ, you know, I'm not going to.
20:04And it just tilted over and you just see these pebbles, gravel dropping down to the ground
20:10and then him to take it and then whack that guy's head, you know, just really suddenly
20:18that was like the point of no return for him.
20:21He made his choice.
20:22He's going to fight for these kids.
21:18used really correctly and at the right time symbolism.
21:25All those symbolic signs that you can see, he used a lot and used correctly.
21:33And that's the, through this story, you don't feel kind of awkward.
21:39You feel, okay, that was necessary.
21:42Those shots leads you to the, through this story.
21:45And one of the great things I noticed in this movie was they don't give you all the
21:53information at one point.
21:57Introduces step by step.
22:00Even when we are in the court, they start to make some doubt in our mind that was the
22:08principal or was his brother.
22:10Yeah.
22:11Well, I like that you don't get all the information up front.
22:14You see it through the eyes of that main character.
22:16Exactly.
22:17You know it when he knows it.
22:18Right.
22:19Exactly.
22:20When he goes to the computer and reads all the stories of the children in his class and
22:28really sees that, oh, this one's an orphan.
22:31This one has this and this one's been labeled.
22:34We don't know.
22:35Yeah.
22:36Yeah.
22:37This one has been labeled mentally incapacitated.
22:40I can't remember the exact words that they said, but it just leads you to think, well,
22:46how much of that is fabricated too?
22:51I agree that maybe they pre-selected, but I don't know that they fabricated the records
22:58to indicate so that nobody else would know that they had connections to the outside world.
23:04It just leads you to question.
23:07But they do.
23:08You know, characters often do profile like their victims.
23:11Right.
23:12Also, I think this movie, Beside Everything, was also about the power of media too because
23:18we see when they try, when they start to bring this story to the court, they are not successful.
23:27So when they start to publish it, when they start to go to media, TV, newspaper, and then
23:36government has to be more serious, you know.
23:41Even the sheriff, before he is kind of in the side of the school, but he has to change
23:47his side, at least for even temporary, he has to do that because media made him look
23:55so bad.
24:07I'm not going to say it twice.
24:13Don't whine and listen carefully.
24:16Find a lawyer who is a former judge who has just been re-elected.
24:21At least the level of a chief judge.
24:24Oh, it's better if he's a former police officer.
24:27Don't say things like, it's unfair, I didn't do it.
24:31It's better if he's a former police officer.
24:33Don't say things like, it's unfair, I didn't do it.
24:37Until you find a lawyer, listen like a child.
24:42You know, that explains a lot that how media can, if you use media in the right path, so
24:50you can do something great.
24:52Right.
24:53But make some questions also that all these medias you are using.
24:57It could be your friend or your enemy.
24:59Yeah, exactly.
25:00They don't always share the right truth.
25:02Yeah.
25:03Exactly.
25:04Enough truth to make it appear.
25:05It's their truth.
25:06It's their truth.
25:07Yeah, it makes you more responsible when you think, okay, the tool I have in my hand, you
25:14have to think about that, that am I using in the right way or I'm wrong?
25:19I'm helping people or I'm kind of making problem with somebody and put something wrong in their
25:26mind because people, they believe what they see or what they hear.
25:32And in this matter, in this movie, the media was successful and they could do something,
25:39but still, we have another problem which comes from those people, they have power.
25:47So they can shut down the media.
25:49They can make difference in there.
25:51They can buy the media.
25:52They can buy the media, exactly.
25:54Unfortunately.
25:55Yeah.
25:56And that probably happens, you know, not only here in these sites, but in Cambodia and Korea.
26:03Exactly.
26:04All over the place.
26:05I don't think this movie is about just South Korea.
26:08No, I don't think so either.
26:09Yeah, you can see the same issue here in United States.
26:12You can see in Iran, in France, all over the world.
26:15It's a problem everywhere.
26:16Yeah, exactly.
26:17And the same situation, you know, there are many stories that they try to take the court
26:22here in United States.
26:23They weren't successful because there were some powerful people.
26:27They tried to shut down this story and they could do that in other countries as well.
26:32If we go through all those, you know, cases that they are cold cases and they never opened.
26:38Yeah.
26:39You know, and still in the end of the film says this is still ongoing case,
26:45but they appealed several times.
26:48They weren't successful, but they still tried to do that.
26:52And I think that's a good thing that kind of made me proud.
27:00That they hadn't given up the fight yet.
27:03No, they didn't give up.
27:04And made me proud that how, when you are a director, when you are in the film industry
27:15or you are in TV, how you can do something right and not to give up.
27:21And those people, how much they can have faith on you.
27:25Right.
27:26Yeah.
27:27You know, those kids, they have nobody.
27:29And this director with this movie Silence, he made some hope in there.
27:35Right.
27:36Yeah.
27:37And I think the approach is right because like he could have taken it as a documentary type style,
27:42like Half the Sky or something.
27:43Yeah.
27:44But this was actually more impactful.
27:48You really saw the intensity of the matter, the brevity of the matter, the fear.
27:56Illustrated heart, very, very.
27:58Yeah.
27:59The fear and the tears in the children's eyes were genuine.
28:02You know, it just looked absolutely not acted on.
28:07It was.
28:08The scene where the brother, older brother is talking about, you know, your grandmother,
28:12like I didn't forgive him.
28:13Nobody asked me, you know, if I was offering forgiveness.
28:16And that teacher said, I promise.
28:18And then, you know, to fail that promise.
28:21That's the only time in the movie I completely just lost it.
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29:14Yeah, and that's when he says that, when the teacher says I promise,
29:20then we see that the camera goes closer and we see he's not sure he can make that promise happen.
29:28No, and he should have never said that because the children, you know,
29:33you know, they latch on to anything that is told to them that says, you know, that there's hope and
29:39I was talking to a friend, sorry, I was talking to a friend of mine recently where I said,
29:45I promised so and so I'd do this. I thought you said you were planning on doing this. I think,
29:49well, it's the same thing. Like, well, no, it's not. Not to all people. Yeah. Some people like
29:54you and I, if I say, you know, I'm planning to do this and, you know, it's kind of...
30:01Promise has more emotional attachment. Yeah, but in that situation, he didn't want to say,
30:05I promise, but you have no choice because those kids, they were looking for some promise
30:13because they gave up from everything, you know, if they knew if they start talking,
30:19even they're going to get killed, you know, but they had faith on this teacher,
30:28but this teacher failed. He believed that their story when they came out would... He was the only
30:34person who believed. Yeah, well, he believed that all he needed to do was talk. All he needed to do
30:40was talk and everything would, you know, not be okay, but the bad guys would be stopped. He had
30:44no idea how far reaching their influence went. But he did say that he had friends that were
30:50prosecutors and attorneys, you know, watch out for him, you know, because he's going to bring in
30:55his friends, you know, this story is going to be told. Yeah, but the thing is, he was proud of
31:02having those kind of friends that they are attorneys, but even his friends, you didn't see
31:08them really. Yeah, they turned back and they left him in that situation because as his mother says
31:15in one of the scenes that you have to think about yourself.
31:45And that's a sad part. Everybody in this movie thinks about him or herself, not those children.
32:10Except for the two main leads. Exactly, because those deaf children, they don't matter.
32:17They don't exist, you know, because they're orphans. They have nobody. So in the society and
32:24it's also the place of the school, where the school is, is totally out of the society. He has
32:33to drive too long, too far to go there. And that says something that these kids, they separated
32:42from the society. So they are dead already. Nobody cares what happens to them. They're invisible.
32:47They're invisible and nobody wants them. Nobody is looking for them. Exactly what happens to that
32:54kid, that brother when he dies by the accident of the train. So nobody, you don't hear anything
33:03that the newspaper or a media or somebody came and says, okay, this kid died. What happened to this
33:10kid? Yeah, it's like, well, big deal. Yeah, we don't hear anything until the time that teacher
33:18starts to talk with his brother and then brother comes. Okay, that kid with what we saw in the
33:25beginning of the movie was my brother and this was his story and what happened and other things.
33:31And when he took that girl to the, that had been put into the washing machine and to the hospital,
33:38I was just so afraid that girl was going to die.
33:40I just, yeah, you just saw the somberness of her and just like, this is life. This is my life.
34:10One of the scenes, like in complete contrast to that, that I really enjoyed was when they're
34:36having lunch and they're all sort of like this sour looks on their faces because they're like,
34:39oh no. And then you see that one of the kids has the soup all over, you know, her face and all the
34:44other kids start laughing. I thought that was a really great scene because it really, nobody in
34:48movies really tends to look at how resilient kids are, how, you know, strong they are from
34:55bouncing back. On that same token, there was some other light movements moments too. Yeah,
35:00when he was trying to break the ice with that little girl and they had to draw pictures of
35:05each other and he drew her real pretty and he's got these like robot eyes. Yeah. Yeah.
35:14And it was a really great idea because the movie is so dark and those moments makes a little bit
35:21balance between all those darkness and those, you know, some moments that you can see they are real
35:29people. They are, yes, as you said, they are, they have been raped. They went through a lot,
35:35but still they're kids. They're strong and they bounce back and they have the ability to see
35:39they're not weak. Exactly. Little beings. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we always hear that children
35:46are resilient and, but you know, you don't want to test the waters. How resilient can they be
35:52if they're in the circumstances, but I just, it's a tough film. I liked the outcome for,
36:00you know, well, the two different outcomes, you have the two girls who continued on their lives
36:04and tried to build a normal life from those horrific events. And then you had the, the boy
36:10who wanted vengeance and who sought out vengeance and got it. And I liked that they showed those two
36:17different pathways that you can, that. Yeah, exactly. How he is different of even his brother.
36:25Yeah. Because his brother is that much hopeless that goes to commit suicide, but he doesn't do
36:33that. Yeah. He goes to have revenge to get his right back. It affects them and it affects kids
36:42in different ways. And this film showed that it's not just, you know, well, it was interesting
36:47that the boy wrote a diary of sorts, you know, wrote it out. You know, it was his way to express
36:55himself, even though he couldn't express himself otherwise. One of the thing I guess helped a lot
37:03was the design of the location. It was so cold. Yeah, it was really, yeah, it was really gray
37:12and cold. I mean, you feel, you don't feel good when, when everything is. I feel like in a faraway
37:17land, like it was. And even those noises that doors they make, it makes you on, on the room that
37:26you, you see is much brighter is the principal's room, which design is so colorful.
37:37But for the most part, there was that scene where it was been right. And then the only reason why
37:43you could identify that it was in, in there in his office was because of that aquarium and the
37:49glowing jellyfish or whatever fish were in there. Yeah. And I liked how they designed the scene,
37:58you know, because most of the movie happens in the school. Majority of movie happens in the
38:04school for the first two, for the first two thirds of it. Yeah. And then you go to the court.
38:10You have, we have some, some, some of the scenes that we see outside, but the entire story, even
38:18in the court, we come back to the school. The school has, I guess, school has a character.
38:25It is, it is a character. It is. Yeah. It's not just the building. It's hiding. Yeah. Yeah. These
38:31stories that are needing to be told. Exactly. It's like, you know, it can be described as a,
38:39you know, a Guantanamo or something like that. We kind of think so. Yeah. Even like the scene where
38:45he sees that washroom area, you know, the little girl drive, you know, pulls him down to the stairs
38:51and you see the stairwell and that door, that ominous door down at the other end. And it's like
38:58something from the haunted movies or something, you know, it's something to be feared. Sounds
39:03like the lambs or something in a way going back down to the red. Also the position of camera was
39:10really brave and was so effective, especially in the scene that one of the girls comes back and
39:19sees principal is raping another girl and she has the dinner in her hand and then camera comes
39:26down and follows her when she's running away. But she can't run away because principal comes,
39:32yeah, catch her and starts to rape her. It's like camera is us. It's camera. You don't feel
39:42there is any camera. You feel you are witnessing the real story. Because, you know, we are seeing
39:49this all go on. Well, the explicitness of it is like pretty makes you really pulls it out of you
39:54as it as it is. But then, yeah, then the camera work just sort of really intensifies it. Yeah.
39:59Really makes it, you know, pushes it even further. And sometimes even you don't think that there were
40:04is there is any designated position for the camera just like was in real was. But how they feel that
40:17as an audience, you feel is just camera was in there and was capturing any moment. Yeah,
40:25they didn't like the director didn't care, but he care like more like a real life documentary,
40:33you know, like a reportage or something like that. It's just that at the same time,
40:39it still felt like a narrative. Exactly. Yeah. And it's hard to do that. But he actually did
40:43a pretty good job. Yeah. The two together makes makes kind of is we are we are hearing this story
40:49from it's a multiple storytellers in there. Right. There is a teacher that we are following
40:58him through this story at the first point look like he is or teller. And then we go through that.
41:07We see children that the the position changed from the teacher to kids that they start to talk.
41:16But overall, we have the camera like director gives his own perspective to us, which in his
41:26mind, it's supposed to be ours tries to tell us, OK, this is your perspective. You have to follow
41:34this. You have to fight kind of. I thought I have to go to South Korea and fight for these kids.
41:41Well, I think that's what that's what it's supposed to instill that emotion. Yeah, exactly.
41:45And and that was the great use of cinema as a powerful medium. Right. Yeah, really. Yeah. I
41:53mean, that's that is one of the missions of it is of cinema is to educate, to inform, to provoke,
41:58yeah, to elicit these emotions from you. And that film really just does all of that more.
42:03And it brings out and brings out the idea that of the globalness of this, you know, that
42:11gender violence or child sadly, it makes it see this as a universal problem. Right. Yeah. And so
42:17many people are like, well, it just happens in my community or it happens in city or they don't
42:23realize it's actually everywhere or they do the reverse and say, well, it doesn't happen in my
42:30city. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. This can happen everywhere. It doesn't matter. I think in that
42:35case, it's a well, that could be my son. That could be my daughter. Right. My little brother,
42:39my little sister. And so, you know, that's and kind of, you know, I think makes us to
42:46be a little bit critic about ourselves. For me was was kind of question after I watched this movie,
42:56what am I doing? Am I living my life as a human being and I care about people or I don't,
43:08you know, bring some serious question that how much we know about people around, you know,
43:17those people, we can't blame people in that town because they had no idea. Well, they didn't want
43:24to. I mean, they just because the school was so far and, you know, look, the guy was going to
43:30the church and was, you know, one of the most appreciated people in the community. And everybody
43:37was surprised when they said, OK, this guy is a wrong person. Well, you got to wonder how many
43:42people like genuinely didn't believe it or also who genuinely didn't want to believe it. There's a
43:49difference. There's some people that, well, maybe, but he knows my uncle and, you know,
43:54maybe I shouldn't, you know, side with them. And then they'll think, well, no, no,
43:58he's a good guy. He's good. There is this kind of fear that everybody has, you know, because
44:05again, I'm going to go back to the dialogue of the mother that says, OK, you have a kid
44:11that you have to take care of her. You need this money or your daughter going to die.
44:18So I guess every single person has some issues that has to deal with it. And that.
44:25And questioning your motivation.
44:27Exactly. And also, sometimes it's really hard. You know, for me, was my first thought was, OK,
44:36if I was the teacher, I would fight for these kids. But should I give up from my daughter's life
44:45to help others? It really is not easy.
44:48How much do you value?
44:49Yeah, exactly. And then after it happens, if you lose your daughter after that,
44:57are you can you forgive yourself?
45:02You know, which one which one could you live with?
45:05And I think, you know, that you're talking about media along with us and a lot of the
45:14what we hear about in the world, we are hearing about it, but we're not seeing it. So it's not
45:21real. So it's not in our backyard. It's not in our backyard. It's not real if we don't see that
45:28it happens, you know, and not that you want to see this kind of violence.
45:34But it's not part of your reality if it's not in front of you.
45:38Right. I think so many of us are visual type.
45:41I believe it was our reality would be much tougher than it is right now.
45:46Right. It's kind of softens the blow, you know, to read about it. Oh, this happened in Cambodia.
45:51This happened. Well, that's not in our world. And, you know, but it really brings in the
45:58personification, the realness, the real intensity of the matter. It's not just, you know, on paper.
46:07Oh, well, this was just right. You know, no, this was a rape. And this was an assault. And this was
46:13an assault of children. And to top that off, these are children that were deaf and they didn't have
46:20the ability to have their voice and they didn't have the ability to just go and talk to anybody,
46:27you know, because somebody in the streets, if they were able to get to a street or to get to
46:33a police officer, if they didn't know the sign language, they weren't going to be able to
46:38communicate. Yeah. And I think that's that's some question that we have to ask from ourselves
46:45as an individual. And also society has to ask that these people, they exist
46:54in the entire world. These people, they exist. And every day they go through
47:01those sad, struggling, tough situations. Absolutely. And they are not just
47:08thousands of people or two thousand. This that's I was reading an article was
47:15more than millions of children that they go through those kind of situations. So
47:21I believe we need to ask ourselves that. How much responsible we are, which we are responsible,
47:30you know, if I'm living here and in my neighborhood or in the town I'm living or
47:37in the country I'm living, something like this happens. I'm responsible to socially, socially
47:44responsible. You have to take action. You can't be just sitting in your chair and that's too bad.
47:51Oh, the world's passing me by. If I have a good time with my friends, with my girlfriend,
47:56with my husband, with my wife. So that doesn't mean the entire world, they are happy. So that
48:02you can ignore. We are human. We have to share something. Yeah, exactly. And we need to think
48:08through how we can, how we can do and what we can do. And that's, that's a serious question.
48:14Coming up with answers is really hard. They have social summits all the time. They had one here in
48:20Austin, you know, trying to figure out the social good, the social responsibility for the community
48:26and beyond. And how do you touch the beyond, you know? Yeah, that's unfortunately what happens
48:33here in this show, we can just bring up these questions, but it's good that the movie comes out
48:41to bring a focus on that. If people, they start to watch this show, if it makes them interested,
48:48go watch the movie. It's a shame that it, you know, it wasn't more widely seen on a wider platform.
48:56Silence was based on the true story. But at the time that the incident happened,
49:04none of the officials cared about the story and about the school. But two months after
49:12Silence movie released, a court in Guangzhou district ordered to shut down the school and
49:22they put in prison principals and those teachers, they were involved to assaulting those kids.
49:29And that's a good news and shows how a movie can be effective in the society.
49:36After you watched our conversation, please watch the movie next and then share your
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