00:00 I have a question for you, Hassan.
00:02 I have a question for you, Hassan.
00:04 I have a question for you, Hassan.
00:06 These properties, watches, jewellery,
00:08 I have a question for you, Hassan.
00:10 I have a question for you, Hassan.
00:12 These properties, watches, jewellery,
00:14 These were four gifts.
00:16 I have accepted them in my statement.
00:18 I have accepted them in my statement.
00:20 I have accepted them in my statement.
00:22 The first government record of the
00:24 The first government record of the
00:26 the first government record of the
00:28 government.
00:30 government.
00:32 registration.
00:34 registration.
00:36 Registration is done when the tax returns are added to the FBR.
00:42 Third registration is done when you have given wealth tax on it.
00:47 So one sin is that you are deliberately concealing something,
00:52 or the other is that unintentionally or that day their argument was that,
00:57 that farm B, which is an asset and liabilities of the election commission,
01:01 was not included in it, so an asset was not deliberately concealed.
01:06 So what do you think about this?
01:10 You are asking me?
01:11 Yes, I am asking you.
01:13 Mr. Goman, two things are very clear.
01:15 One thing is that in Pakistan's criminal justice system,
01:18 two things are important, actress and mensria.
01:22 Where there is actress, there must be mensria.
01:26 But in certain things, when you file a statement,
01:30 and you say that I did not know about it,
01:35 then you should have seen it before signing.
01:38 Number one.
01:39 Number two is that if you look at the whole case,
01:42 then the whole case is based on technicalities.
01:44 And on technicalities, the case does not always succeed.
01:48 You should also go to the law and merits.
01:51 Now their first stance in front of the election commission was that,
01:54 in 63(1)(b) the election commission is not competent.
01:58 Now the election commission is not competent, this is another thing.
02:01 The presence of mensria is another thing.
02:03 Similarly, you see that when this case went to the Islamabad High Court,
02:07 the Islamabad High Court did not say even today
02:10 that the disqualification in 63(1)(b) is illegal,
02:16 or I suspend that judgment.
02:18 The appropriate course for them was that,
02:21 the first judgment in which they were disqualified,
02:24 which you also pointed out, that the form B could also have mensria,
02:28 all these points could also be taken.
02:30 If it had been suspended in the Islamabad High Court,
02:34 or set aside, then in that case,
02:37 the additional section that has been referenced,
02:40 under section 190 of the Election Act,
02:44 its proceedings would have stopped automatically.
02:47 So when you took your main case,
02:50 I think that you did not take it the way it should have been taken.
02:54 Absolutely right.
02:55 Mr. Chaudhary, Mr. Ghulam Shah also wants to ask you a question.
02:58 Yes, yes.
02:59 Yes, Mr. Chaudhary, he is saying that the fault of the lawyers is visible,
03:03 and yesterday I saw that Hassan also wanted to hear,
03:05 so we will talk to Hassan also.
03:06 So, Mr. Chaudhary, you ask the question.
03:08 Well, I have no question.
03:11 Let's do comedy.
03:13 I have explained it beautifully,
03:18 but what Ali Zafar is saying,
03:20 that we first got the evaluation done from there,
03:22 so it is on record,
03:23 we gave the tax, so it is on record,
03:25 so then where did the theft happen?
03:27 Mr. Chaudhary, I request you,
03:30 one statement is what you give outside the court.
03:34 One such thing is that when a decision is made on it,
03:37 and then you go there.
03:39 Now, if all these things were present,
03:41 then it was important that the Election Commission
03:44 accept that a decision is wrong,
03:46 and did not give accordance with law,
03:48 and did not listen to them,
03:50 so that matter went to Islamabad High Court,
03:53 now that matter is fixed there in October 22,
03:57 October 22, 2022.
04:00 Now, from October 22, 2022,
04:02 you see that we have come to August,
04:05 it is almost 10 months,
04:06 they should have taken a decision about that decision,
04:10 the disqualifications that are said,
04:14 that they have…
04:15 Mr. Hafiz, you are giving a very beautiful speech,
04:17 you are telling me to come in half an hour,
04:20 otherwise I will…
04:21 come in two hours, what is that?
04:24 Mr. Chaudhary, it should not be like this,
04:26 that the court should show patience,
04:29 the court should give time,
04:30 the court should show justice.
04:32 Let's include Hassan also,
04:33 sorry Hassan, there was a delay,
04:35 we had given the mic to Mr. Hafiz.
