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00:07 You like frequent festival goers?
00:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10 Yeah, yeah, this kind of festival actually, not, not, not, not, like,
00:13 you'll have to recount for people too old for that,
00:15 but this kind of one-day thing is a fucking great idea.
00:17 Yeah, do you like, do you like the smaller events that are a bit more intimate?
00:19 Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, way more.
00:21 What, what about them then makes them more special?
00:23 Well, I think, I think with this one in particular it's important,
00:26 because it's the traditional independent music venue.
00:29 And I think if you don't support them you're going to lose them.
00:31 Yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:32 And you've got to do it.
00:33 I've been coming to these for a long time,
00:35 and there's fewer and fewer opportunities like this every year.
00:39 And I think Paul's caught me.
00:41 The more you can do it, you should.
00:43 Like you say, it's easier to lose it, really, isn't it?
00:45 Yeah, basically, I think there's a default now to people going to big stadium gigs,
00:49 and you lose that feel to it, so I think,
00:52 and, you know, there's less and less opportunities for upcoming bands to make it now.
00:58 There's such a chasm between starting off with it and making it now.
01:03 You've got to have stuff like this, so, you know, it's fun for us,
01:07 and it's good for them, so it's worth it.
01:09 Definitely.
01:10 You see, there's so many open-minded venues,
01:13 there's so many acoustic gigs going.
01:15 I'm the band myself, I'm going to drop that in.
01:17 And to get a gig as a band, you're very, very difficult,
01:20 so venues like this are important.
01:21 And it's great.
01:22 You see, new talent, new music, close up.
01:25 You know, one day you're going to be saying, "Oh, I saw them, I saw them in the ferry."
01:28 So, yeah, it's exciting.
01:29 I was going to say, there's something special about it, being this kind of small venue,
01:32 where you are up close and personal with the acts, aren't you?
01:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:35 Have a good note of the pedal, of course, isn't there?
01:37 Yeah, definitely.
01:38 Definitely.
01:39 Talking about, like, favourite gigs you've ever been to, then,
01:41 is there any standouts that you've seen?
01:43 Yeah.
01:44 Just anywhere?
01:45 Anywhere.
01:46 Well, I think Panic Shack.
01:47 I mean, we are not the demographic for the, what, 20-something female punk band,
01:52 but we blew us away, didn't we?
01:54 That's what I dragged my daughter to, I think,
01:56 that you were saying something about them, wasn't it?
01:58 Yard Acts.
01:59 Yeah, I've seen Yard Acts a couple of times.
02:02 We've got a guy called Anthony Schmerrick from Manchester.
02:05 I've seen him play a few times recently.
02:07 There's a lot of really good bands up and about.
02:10 I think, whereas previously, we'd go to, like, Manchester Arena and watch,
02:15 like, a huge rock band.
02:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:18 I'm feeling less inclined to do that now.
02:20 Really?
02:21 Yeah, yeah.
02:22 This is what I'm going to do.
02:24 I was going to say, if you're going to put together, like, a dream festival,
02:27 it would be something kind of low-key and a bit smaller, rather than, you know,
02:30 like, Iron Maiden Metallica on tour or something like that.
02:32 Yeah, yeah.
02:33 We were just saying that on the way up, actually, literally that.
02:35 Iron Maiden, I've seen them lots of times.
02:37 1988 at the Badminton Stadium.
02:39 It was great.
02:40 Well, I think these days, I'd rather spend the budget on,
02:42 I can see five of these events,
02:44 the same pricing, yeah, five times the fun out of it.
02:47 It's that seeing new music, seeing something you wouldn't--
02:51 you might look for one band like we have,
02:53 and then there's five others on it, and you wouldn't see it.
02:55 You find these favourites.
02:56 You expose yourself to the best music.
02:58 Yeah, yeah.
02:59 And we're going to see that one that we'll be saying,
03:02 when they're doing arenas, we say, "Oh, man, I know what I'm leaving."