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00:00:02 - And a very special good morning Trinidad and Tobago
00:00:18 and the rest of the world.
00:00:19 I'm Marlon Hopkinson and welcome to The Morning Edition.
00:00:21 It's Thursday, the 7th of September, 2023
00:00:25 and we thank you for joining us.
00:00:27 We thank you for inviting us into your homes
00:00:30 every morning, yeah?
00:00:32 We do have a special program for you today.
00:00:34 We're going to kick it off with some action,
00:00:36 but before we do that, let's check out the Daily Express.
00:00:39 On the front page today,
00:00:42 celebrating an icon, giant Tan-Tan characters
00:00:47 dressed in outfits reminiscent of those worn
00:00:49 by Denise Plummer, Bukok,
00:00:51 and set in her heyday in the Calypso world,
00:00:54 dance in the courtyard of Queens Hall, St. Anne's,
00:00:56 calling the funeral service for the former Calypso Queen
00:00:59 and gospel singer yesterday.
00:01:02 Farewell fit for a queen.
00:01:05 And Paria charges bias, calls on commission chairman
00:01:09 to recuse self.
00:01:11 Let's check out some sporting news now.
00:01:13 Blackman eyeing podium place.
00:01:16 Huge scalp, Trinbago Knight Riders,
00:01:18 Samara Ramnav, slid from left,
00:01:20 celebrates with her teammates after getting the wicket
00:01:23 of Barbados Royals kipper, Hayley Matthews,
00:01:25 during their Massey Women's Caribbean Premier League match
00:01:28 yesterday at the Queen's Park Oval in Porta Spain.
00:01:32 Champs still in it.
00:01:34 TKR beat Royals, keep WCPL final hopes alive.
00:01:39 The Trinbago Knight Riders women pulled out a performance
00:01:42 to match their desperation yesterday.
00:01:45 The defending Massey Women's Caribbean Premier League
00:01:47 champions handed the Barbados Royals
00:01:49 their first defeat of the season,
00:01:51 a 13 run loss to keep their hopes alive
00:01:54 of reaching the final.
00:01:57 Yeah.
00:01:58 So good news there in sports.
00:01:59 Some of the stories in Bay Daily Express today.
00:02:01 It's time to remind you about Trinbago, your nice feature.
00:02:03 Remember to participate.
00:02:04 All you have to do is WhatsApp your videos
00:02:07 and photographs to 737-3778.
00:02:12 Yeah.
00:02:13 We do have this image for you from Sham Sahade.
00:02:15 Good morning, Sham.
00:02:17 Yeah.
00:02:18 That's a beautiful picture there from Sham.
00:02:20 Good morning to Sham and all of the persons
00:02:23 who continue to contribute photographs
00:02:27 and videos to our program, right?
00:02:29 So today we are going to be discussing politics,
00:02:32 Tobago affairs, crime, and other issues affecting you
00:02:37 in Trinidad and Tobago, yeah?
00:02:39 So we are going to a very short break,
00:02:41 but first you have your coffee, you have your tea,
00:02:43 you have something to eat.
00:02:44 It's going to be, how do I say,
00:02:46 an interesting one and a half hours here with me.
00:02:50 And then you have James Saunders.
00:02:52 He comes in to share with you CPL action, yeah?
00:02:55 So we're coming back.
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00:03:59 - The biggest party in sport is back.
00:04:02 CPL and WCPL return with more action than ever before.
00:04:07 - Are you kidding me?
00:04:09 - Bobby!
00:04:10 - Watch the biggest names in cricket
00:04:12 battle it out in the race for glory.
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00:04:22 Join the party.
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00:04:32 - This is Mary.
00:04:33 Mary has bills to pay and takes a chance
00:04:37 parking in front of the building at the no parking sign.
00:04:41 Mary returns to her car and this is what happens.
00:04:45 (phone rings)
00:04:52 Mary decides to call when she's five minutes away
00:04:55 to let her daughter know that she is close by.
00:04:58 But Mary forgot one thing.
00:05:00 - Second ticket for the day.
00:05:04 I don't know, I really don't know.
00:05:05 Well, I tell you.
00:05:07 - After two tickets,
00:05:09 Mary just isn't paying attention to her speed.
00:05:12 (speaking in foreign language)
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00:05:27 Don't be like Mary.
00:05:29 Obey the laws of the road.
00:05:31 A message from the TTPS.
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00:05:39 - It's about to break for you.
00:05:44 - I was in Gethsemane.
00:05:45 He dragged that tire called salvation for man.
00:05:51 - Lift my eyes unto the hills.
00:05:53 We only have one place to go for help.
00:05:57 Hallelujah.
00:05:58 So I celebrate in Jesus.
00:06:00 ♪ There's a king ♪
00:06:04 ♪ Who leads his people to victory ♪
00:06:09 ♪ We are destined to ♪
00:06:11 - Walk into your new season.
00:06:14 - You know what?
00:06:17 If I go in and give a dollar,
00:06:18 walk in and give help,
00:06:20 I had a new way going.
00:06:21 I had to see it for myself.
00:06:23 So I look around and I realize, wait now.
00:06:25 Habitat for Humanity, Trinidad and Tobago,
00:06:27 is building house for people.
00:06:29 You understand what I said?
00:06:31 And they're taking anything, you understand?
00:06:32 You could give money,
00:06:34 you could get brick,
00:06:35 bag of cement,
00:06:36 some tin sets,
00:06:37 some grout,
00:06:38 whatever you have, you understand?
00:06:39 They're taking it.
00:06:40 If I give my time and my money there,
00:06:42 not to say I have any big sets of money,
00:06:43 you understand me?
00:06:44 I could know for sure
00:06:47 that a family in this country
00:06:49 is going and get a home.
00:06:52 And that is why I say
00:06:52 Habitat for Humanity, Trinidad and Tobago,
00:06:54 is doing the kind of work that I feel
00:06:57 that I could get behind, you understand?
00:06:59 Put my money behind, my sweat behind,
00:07:00 call my friend and them and say,
00:07:01 "Come, let me go and make a line
00:07:03 and build a house for a family."
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00:07:08 ♪ No home for the family ♪
00:07:18 ♪ The title they give to me ♪
00:07:20 ♪ Has no gain financially ♪
00:07:22 ♪ The queen of Bethel Village ♪
00:07:23 ♪ Just smile she way across the stage ♪
00:07:25 ♪ She's giving a ♪
00:07:26 - And welcome back everyone.
00:07:27 So as I told you earlier,
00:07:29 we do have a lot to discuss on the program for today.
00:07:32 But first let's deal with this issue
00:07:34 of what I'm seeing in the Daily Express today.
00:07:37 Paria charges bias,
00:07:38 calls on commission chairman to recuse self.
00:07:41 So chairman accused of bias by lawyers
00:07:44 called to step down.
00:07:46 So Lynch says, "I'll carry on my job."
00:07:49 So the commission of inquiry chairman, Jerome Lynch Casey,
00:07:53 is being accused of bias
00:07:54 and is being called upon to recuse himself
00:07:56 from the inquiry into the deaths of four divers
00:07:59 who were undertaking work
00:08:01 for Pario Fuel Trading Company Limited.
00:08:04 In the face of possible court action
00:08:06 to prevent him from completing the report of the inquiry,
00:08:10 Lynch however said yesterday,
00:08:11 "He will not be deflected and continues to work."
00:08:15 Also he says that he will endeavor
00:08:20 to have the report into the Paria diving tragedy
00:08:23 ready to submit to president Christine Kangaloo
00:08:26 by the end of November, 2023.
00:08:30 So there was some controversy there after we,
00:08:35 and when I say we,
00:08:36 the citizens of this country have spent,
00:08:38 I suspect more than $15 million
00:08:42 for this commission of inquiry,
00:08:45 which was instituted to investigate the deaths
00:08:49 of the divers.
00:08:50 But you know in Trinidad and Tobago,
00:08:52 everything has to have a little bit of back and a right.
00:08:54 So that is what is happening right now.
00:08:58 There was a other interesting story I wanted to touch on
00:09:03 that I saw in the newspaper,
00:09:04 but we'll speak about the funeral of Denise Plummer,
00:09:08 which took place yesterday.
00:09:10 So praise for Plummer at funeral
00:09:12 made a pathway for all women.
00:09:14 Don't think it was dumb luck
00:09:17 after a few rolls of toilet paper
00:09:20 that she got to the top of her game.
00:09:22 She was kind, she was talented,
00:09:24 and seemingly able to connect with anyone anywhere
00:09:28 and command any room.
00:09:30 So said Jesse Bukock as he eulogized his mother,
00:09:33 former Calypso Queen and gospel singer,
00:09:37 Denise Plummer Bukock during her funeral service
00:09:40 at Queens Hall St. Anne's yesterday.
00:09:43 Now Plummer's funeral featured a mix of Calypso
00:09:46 and Soca tacit drums and mass.
00:09:48 And according to mass designer,
00:09:50 Brian McFarlane's summation,
00:09:54 I saw Denise in every aspect of this event today.
00:09:58 Now the service began at around 10 a.m.
00:10:00 with a national anthem rendered by Len Bugsy Sharp,
00:10:04 following, followed by an opening prayer
00:10:07 along with a classical performance of
00:10:10 To God Be the Glory by Wendell Constantine.
00:10:13 Now this appeared to have set the tone of Plummer's send off
00:10:17 which was skillfully woven into Trinidad's Carnival
00:10:21 and gospel culture, creating a hybrid celebration
00:10:25 which included everyone.
00:10:26 For a while an outsider stepping into Queens Hall
00:10:30 would not have known it was a funeral.
00:10:33 As gospel minister Sean Daniel and company took the stage
00:10:36 with time of praise, some people slowly at first
00:10:40 began standing up and clapping to the music.
00:10:42 Within minutes, the hall erupted into what appeared
00:10:46 to be a Fet-type atmosphere.
00:10:48 Yeah, oh my gosh, she would have loved this.
00:10:52 She would have loved this, said attendee Karen Young.
00:10:57 So yeah, one of the greats leaving us
00:11:01 and the funeral of Denise Plummer yesterday.
00:11:06 And of course that is going to create, I suspect,
00:11:09 a void in the Calypso and gospel arenas.
00:11:13 But you know, life has it that when these things happen
00:11:18 there are people who would want to step in, all right?
00:11:24 So some of the stories making the Daily Express today,
00:11:28 what we can do at this time is to go to a very short break
00:11:32 and hopefully we'll be back with our first interview.
00:11:34 We're coming back.
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00:14:24 - All right, so welcome back, everyone.
00:14:29 So to kick off our program this morning,
00:14:31 we are speaking with political leader of the PDP,
00:14:34 Watson Duke, about his latest olive branch
00:14:37 he extended to Chief Secretary Farley Augustin.
00:14:41 Mr. Duke, good morning.
00:14:42 - Good morning, Marlon.
00:14:44 Good morning, Trinidad.
00:14:45 Good morning, Tobago.
00:14:46 - Yeah, well, Mr. Duke,
00:14:48 we know that you would have extended this olive branch,
00:14:52 as it were, on Monday of this week,
00:14:56 calling for reconciliation between you and Mr. Augustin.
00:15:00 What's the latest, sir?
00:15:01 Has he responded?
00:15:02 - He has not responded,
00:15:04 and I do not expect him to respond,
00:15:07 but I must do what needs to be done.
00:15:11 - Mr. Duke, try to, if you could,
00:15:15 try to explain that for us,
00:15:16 because if you're saying that
00:15:18 you have extended this olive branch,
00:15:21 but you do not expect him to respond,
00:15:23 that may be a bit confusing to some people.
00:15:26 - Well, it's not the first time I've written to him
00:15:31 regarding matters of concerning Tobago's interests,
00:15:36 and he does not respond.
00:15:38 That is his general conduct.
00:15:42 He's one to brush it off.
00:15:44 And so this one's a little bit different
00:15:47 in that I'm doing this one in particular
00:15:52 for the awareness of all and sundry,
00:15:56 that one, he's no match for the PNM,
00:16:02 no match whatsoever.
00:16:06 Good?
00:16:07 Secondly, if Tobago is going to progress,
00:16:11 Tobago need all of us.
00:16:14 The good, the bad, the ugly,
00:16:15 Tobago needs all of us to progress.
00:16:18 Tobago does not care about who is leading.
00:16:21 They care about what are we leading them to.
00:16:26 All right?
00:16:27 The personality is not important
00:16:30 is what we are leading them to.
00:16:32 In December 6th, we won overwhelmingly.
00:16:35 First time in history at any level
00:16:38 that the PNM got so much a strong beating.
00:16:41 And right after that,
00:16:43 while people were having great expectations,
00:16:47 the party begin to fall apart,
00:16:51 simply because after electing him,
00:16:54 he became king and is now telling the man
00:16:57 who put him in power
00:16:59 that he's going to review his portfolio
00:17:01 and if possible, leave him with nothing.
00:17:04 - So Mr. Duke--
00:17:06 - I mean, obviously, that is a mad thing, right?
00:17:08 The man who created the party,
00:17:10 the man who brought the party to existence and power,
00:17:13 you are saying to him,
00:17:14 you're going to remove his portfolio.
00:17:16 That being aside though, that's not the main issue.
00:17:17 The main issue is that you began a fight
00:17:21 against the political.
00:17:22 One guy step aside clearly and said,
00:17:24 you want to fight?
00:17:25 I'm not fighting you.
00:17:26 You go ahead and you leave.
00:17:27 I'm deeming the position of leadership.
00:17:30 For almost two years he's leading.
00:17:32 And what have we achieved
00:17:34 insofar as economic development?
00:17:37 The economic development is quite lower than low in Tobago.
00:17:41 Insofar as our cultural development,
00:17:44 the Tobago Carnival is a poor gesture
00:17:46 as to what Tobago culture is.
00:17:49 What have we achieved insofar as social development?
00:17:52 Poor again, or political development.
00:17:56 Is it better understood or political status?
00:17:59 With Trinidad, is it better understood?
00:18:01 No, it's more confusing now than ever before.
00:18:05 And my call to him is one where he should be sober
00:18:09 and recognize Tobago is an island of 60,000 people.
00:18:14 We are not at the same educational level,
00:18:16 but certainly we want the same thing.
00:18:19 We want a better relationship with Trinidad.
00:18:22 We want a better economy,
00:18:24 better social, cultural, economic development.
00:18:26 We want better politics on the island.
00:18:28 And this is what the call is about.
00:18:30 Not friendship, not about a job.
00:18:33 This is about Tobago.
00:18:35 This is about what got me excited about politics.
00:18:39 - But Mr. Duke, some people may say,
00:18:42 if you're saying these things about Mr. Augustine
00:18:44 and you have said other things
00:18:47 criticizing Mr. Augustine in the past,
00:18:49 then why would you still want to work with him?
00:18:52 - Because he needs it.
00:18:55 He needs it.
00:18:57 And let me just clarify here.
00:18:59 He has said things, I've said things, and that's life.
00:19:04 That's life.
00:19:06 Beyond those things, Tobago has said things and that's life.
00:19:10 If you're a politician,
00:19:11 you have to have the sensitivity of a butterfly,
00:19:15 but you must have the skin of a rhinoceros.
00:19:18 You have to be tough.
00:19:19 You can't be crying and every time somebody say, "Ee,"
00:19:22 you run and say they want to kill you,
00:19:23 they want to destroy you.
00:19:24 You gotta be thick.
00:19:26 Gotta be a hardback.
00:19:28 And I'm not sure if he understands that.
00:19:30 Politics is where we have the West Bank,
00:19:34 Palestine and Israel sitting down to talk.
00:19:36 Do they want to kill each other?
00:19:37 You have Iran and Iraq sitting to talk.
00:19:40 The baddest sea comes to a calm at some point in time.
00:19:43 And it's important for me that he understands
00:19:47 that two years has gone, two years remaining, if so much,
00:19:51 and how you're gonna govern with those two years.
00:19:53 Just totally abandon the people,
00:19:55 betray the people, stating he's independent.
00:19:58 Where in the world did Tobago come out
00:20:01 and vote for an independent?
00:20:03 Where did they vote for Fahli Aghastin?
00:20:05 I gave him the symbol.
00:20:06 I gave him the name.
00:20:08 I stood him up and said, "This is the man
00:20:09 "I will lead Tobago.
00:20:10 "This is a great man.
00:20:12 "He's better than me."
00:20:13 I've done all of that to elevate his status
00:20:16 in the eyes of the people to a great leader.
00:20:18 And then he came out and said, "He is not PDP.
00:20:22 "He is something else."
00:20:24 But the truth is, he is PDP.
00:20:27 There is no law in the THE Act
00:20:29 that provides for the crossing of the floor,
00:20:32 nor for an independent,
00:20:33 nor for some other party to come and lead.
00:20:35 Those things are nonsense.
00:20:37 Nonsense.
00:20:39 And the Prime Minister is only allowing it
00:20:40 because of his fear for me.
00:20:43 He doesn't want me to elevate in the politics anymore.
00:20:45 So in his mind, he's saying, "Let them fight it out."
00:20:48 I'm not fighting for him.
00:20:50 - Is this going to be your last overture
00:20:52 towards Mr. Aghastin?
00:20:54 - Well, I think it would be the last.
00:20:57 I mean, in all decency and fairness,
00:20:59 as Bob Marley said, I can't be waiting in vain.
00:21:04 I want to just quote you from earlier this week.
00:21:08 Duke added, "I am the only solution,
00:21:12 "the only man that has beaten the PNM.
00:21:16 "And it was my skill, forethought, and strategy."
00:21:21 So Mr. Duke, my question is, if you're saying that,
00:21:25 and you're saying, well, this victory
00:21:29 that you all had achieved in Tobago,
00:21:32 you're taking a lot of credit for that.
00:21:34 You even said earlier that while you were promoting
00:21:39 Mr. Aghastin, you said, "Hey, Mr. Aghastin
00:21:44 "is even better than me."
00:21:47 All right?
00:21:48 - That's what people do when they promote them.
00:21:49 - Yeah, so I'm saying, the question is then,
00:21:53 if this is your thinking, this is your position,
00:21:56 then why don't you pick up your bags, leave,
00:22:02 and also try to establish or reestablish,
00:22:07 if I can say, a more stronger footing
00:22:13 in Tobago politically at this time?
00:22:15 - Well, I think your question is upside down, man.
00:22:19 It begs a lot of answers because it's quite mixed up.
00:22:22 But let me straighten out your question first.
00:22:23 - It's a pale-out question.
00:22:25 - Yeah, it's a mixed up question.
00:22:27 (laughing)
00:22:31 You can only check a man's support based on the polls.
00:22:34 Based on the last polls, we got almost 18,000 votes
00:22:39 there about the PDP, my political organization,
00:22:43 and almost every single one I put up
00:22:45 scored and scored resoundingly.
00:22:47 Let me tell you something.
00:22:49 I have done an experiment,
00:22:50 and experiment worked tremendously.
00:22:54 I have placed, for anyone to run for the vote,
00:22:57 I must have given them permission, me expressly.
00:23:01 Right?
00:23:02 I picked a team of virgin politicians.
00:23:04 None of them are politicians any single way.
00:23:07 I even took a couple of reject politicians,
00:23:10 or wannabe politicians I would say,
00:23:12 wannabe, never got accepted,
00:23:14 and I placed them at the forefront, and I made them work.
00:23:17 I took people without no O-levels,
00:23:19 and I made them successful.
00:23:22 I knew exactly what I was doing,
00:23:24 putting people that represent the common man,
00:23:26 the common interest of Tobago Unions,
00:23:29 on that level where they can represent.
00:23:32 But these persons, they have the crowd instinct
00:23:36 as all persons, and they're not independent thinkers.
00:23:40 They do not love Tobago.
00:23:42 They are fighting for survival, fighting for house,
00:23:46 land, different things they are looking for,
00:23:49 and it places Tobago's interests on a back burner.
00:23:54 My thing is that we came in with placing Tobago first,
00:23:58 we have ensured contractors are looked after,
00:24:00 we would have ensured that our children
00:24:03 are doing better in school,
00:24:05 we would have ensured health service is second to none,
00:24:08 and instead of flying pussies out to Trinidad for surgery,
00:24:11 we would have flew doctors inside
00:24:13 to conduct surgery periodically.
00:24:16 We spoke about building an economy of its own,
00:24:19 something that could stand to,
00:24:22 sometimes the lack of funds from Trinidad,
00:24:24 or the short funding from Trinidad.
00:24:26 We spoke of a cultural development,
00:24:28 speaking of having a Tobago language properly respected,
00:24:32 that's our first language,
00:24:33 English should be our second language.
00:24:36 We speak of a new identity that got Tobago lifted.
00:24:40 Every contractor in Tobago should have been able to taste
00:24:44 from the windfall of cash coming from Trinidad.
00:24:47 We spoke of creating millionaires in the villages,
00:24:50 building houses in the villages, expanding every village,
00:24:54 even the most remote village,
00:24:56 we spoke of expanding these villages,
00:24:58 creating work on the inside for contractors
00:25:01 and wannabe contractors.
00:25:02 We spoke of a Tobago that was on par with world standards.
00:25:07 And I know tsunami got inside.
00:25:10 They begin to play, promise things and do not deliver.
00:25:15 Promise is going to reshuffle at the beginning of this year,
00:25:17 up to now no reshuffling.
00:25:19 Promising gratuity, no gratuity.
00:25:23 Promising ex-gratia payment, no ex-gratia payment.
00:25:26 Promising arrears from the increase
00:25:30 that I would have recommended for the URP, CPEP workers,
00:25:35 none.
00:25:37 - But Mr. Duke, you have not answered my question.
00:25:40 My question was,
00:25:42 excuse me, I've got an upside down question
00:25:45 and a pale out question.
00:25:46 So my question was, if Watson Duke is as great as he is.
00:25:51 We are already here.
00:25:53 We are in the numbers.
00:25:54 We have been tested, that's my point I'm saying to you.
00:25:57 We have been tested at the polls over and over again.
00:26:00 And we have proven to be successful.
00:26:04 There's no rebuilding of any single thing.
00:26:06 My people are still here.
00:26:08 I'm not sure if that thing that the city have,
00:26:11 the thing the city have, that has not been tested.
00:26:14 That's not a party.
00:26:15 Because all party must be road tested.
00:26:18 When you build a car, you have to test it.
00:26:20 That has not been road tested.
00:26:22 What they are trying to do is to assume authority
00:26:26 with the party on something that the PDP want.
00:26:29 They are simply putting on old clothes on the PDP.
00:26:33 That's not the PDP.
00:26:35 I'm saying that to you clearly.
00:26:36 The PDP is tried and tested
00:26:38 and the PDP is a Tobago based party.
00:26:42 It has its roots here.
00:26:43 We are the defender of Tobago's rights.
00:26:46 That's what it is.
00:26:46 There's no such thing as going and trying to rebuild party.
00:26:49 No, that's nonsense.
00:26:50 That's why it's an upside down question.
00:26:53 What am I rebuilding?
00:26:54 Something that's already built,
00:26:55 something that is in our faces every single day.
00:26:58 Fale is a product of the PDP, nothing else, nothing else.
00:27:01 He is a product of the PDP.
00:27:04 - So you still feel that the PDP
00:27:07 has a very strong political footing in Tobago.
00:27:11 And hold on, and let me add on something to that.
00:27:15 Let me also add on something to that.
00:27:17 And I'm also putting Watson Duke in the pot too.
00:27:20 That Watson Duke and the PDP
00:27:23 are still very much attractive in Tobago.
00:27:26 - Well, it's the only attraction, there's nothing else.
00:27:31 It's the only thing that's starring in Tobago right now,
00:27:34 Watson Duke and the PDP.
00:27:35 Whether people condemn us or not,
00:27:37 it's the only thing that journalists love to write about
00:27:39 and commentators love to comment about.
00:27:41 Because we are news, understand that.
00:27:44 If you are non-entity, nobody's commenting about that.
00:27:46 We even had Fale being a dissident,
00:27:50 trying to take the reins of the election
00:27:52 and say he won the election.
00:27:54 How could a non-entity who is not known to anybody,
00:27:56 someone I have to promote with my brand,
00:27:59 say he won the election and I won because of him?
00:28:02 How could he tell journalists, as I read in some papers,
00:28:05 that it was a TPP, some thing that won the election?
00:28:08 What nonsense is that?
00:28:10 I mean, that's nonsense.
00:28:11 Everyone knows the PDP is a brand
00:28:15 that started out of Tobago.
00:28:18 Everyone knows the PDP is a resistance brand.
00:28:21 We have promised the people of Tobago a political revolution
00:28:25 and we are going to continue that mandate
00:28:28 where we change the status quo
00:28:30 and elevate the people to a pedestal.
00:28:33 - Mr. Duke, you mentioned a number of things just now.
00:28:37 You mentioned that you was the one
00:28:40 who brought these political virgins, as you said,
00:28:44 and you spoke about a number of things
00:28:46 about these individuals.
00:28:48 But by you saying that, do you have any regrets?
00:28:53 That's one.
00:28:54 And does that speak about your leadership?
00:28:58 And does it also speak about your judgment
00:29:00 of the persons that you chose?
00:29:03 - Let me answer the questions quickly.
00:29:06 One, I regret it every single day of my life,
00:29:09 I regret that moment, every single day of my life.
00:29:12 Not bringing them together, but not leading them.
00:29:15 Because maturity and experience
00:29:19 is required in leadership, Marlon.
00:29:22 And I felt to myself that the young man,
00:29:26 Father Augustine, would, having been around me
00:29:29 for like about five years thereabout,
00:29:31 and as a minority assemblyman, I was his leader,
00:29:36 that he would have understood the importance
00:29:39 of sticking together during the store,
00:29:42 whatever it is, working it out.
00:29:45 All right?
00:29:46 That's what I felt he would have understood.
00:29:48 I felt he understood the PDP brand was a PDP brand,
00:29:52 and not try to corrupt it with some old,
00:29:54 lethargic, geriatric brands that the others have used
00:29:58 in the past and today when I failed.
00:30:00 There is no party that has beaten the PNM,
00:30:04 except the party that was led by A&R Robinson.
00:30:07 And when he died, and he demitted political office,
00:30:11 so was his brand.
00:30:12 His brand came out of office, check it with me.
00:30:15 As long as Robinson was around,
00:30:17 whether he was leading the THG or not,
00:30:19 the fact that his brand was around,
00:30:20 and he was leading his brand, he was successful.
00:30:24 When he came out of office with the Pandi team
00:30:26 as president, et cetera, then we have Hortori Charles
00:30:31 trying to resuscitate his brand.
00:30:33 And he was good, but they rejected him.
00:30:36 They rejected him.
00:30:37 People become attached to leadership in life.
00:30:40 And likewise, if I am to not run at all whatsoever,
00:30:45 not run, that's it, they can't win.
00:30:48 They will not win.
00:30:49 They will be destroyed totally by the PNM.
00:30:54 Give PNM its jacket.
00:30:55 They're warriors, and I enjoy fighting with them,
00:30:59 because we both are warriors, yeah?
00:31:02 - But Mr. Duke, I don't know after your interview
00:31:05 this morning if this olive branch
00:31:09 that you would have laid out on the table earlier this week,
00:31:14 I think that the olive branch has now fallen off the table,
00:31:17 because after your interview this morning,
00:31:19 I don't know how that you all are going to reconcile now.
00:31:24 - You see, Marlon, you're looking at this thing
00:31:27 as if it's a joke.
00:31:28 We are not reconciling because we are friends.
00:31:31 We are reconciling because we need to.
00:31:33 We need to.
00:31:35 If we are gonna save Tobago, we need to reconcile.
00:31:39 Not become friends.
00:31:41 We need to respect each other.
00:31:43 Clearly he's on a path of his own, I respect that.
00:31:46 But to save Tobago, this is very serious.
00:31:51 This is not about me or him.
00:31:53 This is about Tobago.
00:31:54 I'm speaking to him as an adult, as a senior.
00:31:58 You have to respect Tobago.
00:31:59 Tobago is a bigger place than your ambitions.
00:32:03 It's a big place with adults,
00:32:05 and they are looking at what's going on.
00:32:07 Not because you are silent,
00:32:08 meaning that they don't understand or they don't have a say.
00:32:12 I'm speaking for Tobago this morning.
00:32:14 What I'm saying, the need for us to reconcile
00:32:16 is beyond friendship, is beyond party politics.
00:32:19 It's about putting Tobago first.
00:32:22 And I continue to maintain that.
00:32:24 I don't want to be involved in any tea party,
00:32:26 any wine and song.
00:32:28 I'm not in that kind of nonsense.
00:32:30 I'm not in that.
00:32:30 I'm not that type of friendly man with them.
00:32:33 But when it comes to Tobago's business,
00:32:35 I will want to stand and defend Tobago's issues
00:32:39 aside of him.
00:32:40 And obviously, I will stand aside of him
00:32:42 and defend his issues once they concern Tobago.
00:32:46 I'm saying that I will not want to attack him
00:32:50 and fight him because he's going to counter Tobago.
00:32:52 I want to say, yes, the man going good.
00:32:54 At the end of the day, once Tobago wins,
00:32:57 I would have won because I am about Tobago.
00:33:01 When I'm in Trinidad, I am about Trinidad.
00:33:04 And so therefore, when I'm in Port of Spain,
00:33:06 I want Port of Spain to win.
00:33:07 When I'm in Saba Barataria, I want Saba Barataria to win.
00:33:11 Wherever I am, I want the people to win.
00:33:14 That's the foundation of my argument.
00:33:15 And if the people lose, then politicians lose.
00:33:18 - Let's just say in the coming minutes,
00:33:21 in the coming hours, you and Mr. Augustine,
00:33:25 you have discussions and you have decided,
00:33:27 well, here's what, we can join forces again
00:33:29 and move politically into the future.
00:33:33 But what prevents you and Mr. Augustine
00:33:38 for, let's say, falling out again?
00:33:42 I mean, the history is there.
00:33:44 - Well, it's not history.
00:33:46 - You have had a long, rocky relationship,
00:33:48 if I can say that.
00:33:48 - No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:33:50 Let me tell you something.
00:33:51 Barrie Augustine was a good,
00:33:53 a good assemblyman when I was the minority leader.
00:34:02 We have differences of opinion,
00:34:03 but those were corrected quietly and respectfully.
00:34:06 When he tasted power, he became a different man.
00:34:09 Someone told him that power is a strong drink
00:34:12 and he could remove my power.
00:34:14 So he went on here talking nonsense.
00:34:16 He could remove my power.
00:34:17 That being aside, it's a bad story.
00:34:20 I want to say, I stand, I forgive him.
00:34:22 I forgive him for all those nonsense,
00:34:23 stupid things he say.
00:34:25 I ignore that.
00:34:26 That is water on duck's back.
00:34:29 Forget that.
00:34:30 Let's think about Tobago.
00:34:32 You are still chief secretary.
00:34:34 We have two years to go.
00:34:35 I want to start by your side for free.
00:34:37 I want no money.
00:34:38 I want no position, but I want to use my voice.
00:34:40 I want to use my political base,
00:34:42 which is extremely large and say, let's go forward.
00:34:46 And we will want to check off the things
00:34:47 that you are doing for Tobago.
00:34:49 Let's pay the ex-Russia payment.
00:34:50 Let's pay the arrest.
00:34:52 Let's start sorting out the issues
00:34:55 of contract workers in Tobago.
00:34:57 Let's start sorting out housing,
00:34:59 which is a lack of housing in Tobago.
00:35:00 Let's start sorting out the potholes in Tobago.
00:35:02 Let's start sorting out the persons
00:35:05 who are getting grants, social grants,
00:35:07 that doesn't need social grants,
00:35:08 but those that need are not getting.
00:35:10 Let's start sorting out the healthcare system.
00:35:12 Let's start sorting out the things
00:35:14 that Tobago voted for to be sorted out.
00:35:17 Let's start on that.
00:35:18 And I'm with that.
00:35:19 - How much time are you going to give
00:35:21 Mr. Augustine again to respond?
00:35:23 - As long as it takes.
00:35:26 As long as it takes.
00:35:28 - Mr. Dube, that's a long time, you know.
00:35:30 That could be a few months, you know.
00:35:32 That could be a few years.
00:35:34 - As long as it takes means when time is pregnant,
00:35:39 you will know that time will have to deliver something.
00:35:42 Nothing could go on forever.
00:35:43 As long as it takes, it could happen next week, next month.
00:35:46 It means that when the issue has been aerated enough,
00:35:49 has been discussed enough in the public domain,
00:35:53 and is fully seized with the issue,
00:35:55 then it's time for him to be decided.
00:35:57 - Are you optimistic that there's going to be a response?
00:36:00 - No, I don't believe there's going to be a response.
00:36:03 I understand him quite well, right?
00:36:06 Quite well, I understand him.
00:36:08 And so I don't expect a response.
00:36:09 But what I'm getting is what I expected,
00:36:11 a response from the public.
00:36:13 And that to me is what I call my period of purification.
00:36:18 Because in the public's eye,
00:36:19 I've done what I'm supposed to do.
00:36:21 But regardless of his response or not,
00:36:24 I am about to bagel and put in Tobago first.
00:36:27 Remember when there was no voice here, 12 nil,
00:36:29 I was the lone voice.
00:36:32 I was the lone voice.
00:36:34 When Hodge and Charles was silent,
00:36:36 Ashford Jack was silent, Chris Limor was silent,
00:36:39 and only most of them were silent.
00:36:41 I was the lone voice representing Tobago.
00:36:45 When there was no boats, I swam.
00:36:47 I demanded two boats and I got the two boats.
00:36:50 When they were telling us to come to Trinidad
00:36:52 to exchange the cotton money,
00:36:55 I went to Trin, I went and I said to them,
00:36:58 "No, let them come up.
00:36:59 "We're not going down with no boat,
00:37:01 "with no money and no head to change no money."
00:37:04 And they did for the first time,
00:37:06 brought Central Bank to Tobago.
00:37:07 I stood, I fold my hand,
00:37:09 and I watched my entire district,
00:37:11 Dalla Ford, Roxborough, Argyle,
00:37:13 got developed just by me being present.
00:37:15 I'm telling you, we got a brand new fire station,
00:37:18 a brand new police station,
00:37:20 a brand new administrative complex,
00:37:22 a refurbished Syd Gray complex.
00:37:25 We have gotten all our road paves.
00:37:27 We have seen things that was promised
00:37:30 for 20 years become alive,
00:37:31 not to mention the hospital,
00:37:33 the Roxborough Hospital,
00:37:34 we have gotten that all in four years time
00:37:37 because I was elected and they knew
00:37:39 that I was serious about my people's business.
00:37:42 I could tell you, even though the PNM
00:37:44 delivered all of that out of fear
00:37:47 and respect for what's in Solomon Duke,
00:37:49 they lost the election.
00:37:50 The last time I checked,
00:37:51 I beat the PNM candidate by some 600 votes
00:37:55 in my constituency.
00:37:57 So I'm a man who have been able
00:37:59 to achieve things in and off the field.
00:38:01 I don't need to be in the head to lead.
00:38:06 I lead from wherever I am.
00:38:08 Such is my leadership skills.
00:38:10 It's beyond normal comprehension.
00:38:12 So I'm not telling Farley,
00:38:14 I want to take over your position.
00:38:15 No, you are the chief secretary,
00:38:16 continue being chief secretary.
00:38:18 I don't want to be part of your executive,
00:38:20 manage your executive with those
00:38:23 that you said respect and bow and serve you.
00:38:25 But as much as they're serving you,
00:38:28 you have one duty, serve the people of Tobago.
00:38:31 - Mr. Duke--
00:38:32 - And if you continue not serving the people of Tobago,
00:38:34 then I will have a problem
00:38:35 and time would have been pregnant
00:38:38 and time would have delivered.
00:38:39 - Mr. Duke, I just want to touch on an issue.
00:38:44 I want to speak a little bit about the stability
00:38:47 of your political party,
00:38:49 because I know that on the weekend,
00:38:52 there was some posts on social media
00:38:54 speaking about the financial stability of your party
00:38:58 and that you were about to lose the headquarters
00:39:01 in Barataria, a post like that on social media.
00:39:05 What's the state, the financial state?
00:39:08 Is your party in a stable state at this time?
00:39:13 - My party is quite stable.
00:39:16 I invited one of your colleagues at CCN TV6
00:39:22 to visit my office in Scarborough.
00:39:25 I'm gonna visit the office in Scarborough.
00:39:26 It's perched on a lovely floor
00:39:28 overseeing the Atlantic Sea.
00:39:31 You can see the boats dock and you can see them take off.
00:39:34 You may, it's furnished, et cetera.
00:39:38 And everything is going good.
00:39:39 That's where the office, that's where the base is.
00:39:40 The head office is in Tobago.
00:39:42 We came to Trinidad for a particular reason.
00:39:45 We believe in unification of Trinidad and Tobago.
00:39:49 We set up our office among the people in Barataria.
00:39:52 We have fulfilled that leg of it.
00:39:54 We have therefore removed ourselves
00:39:56 from the office in Barataria
00:39:58 and we have gone to Port of Spain
00:40:00 where we have an office set up there
00:40:02 only for meeting purposes and planning purposes.
00:40:05 I was there yesterday at the Port of Spain office
00:40:08 where I met with the deputy political leader
00:40:11 and other persons.
00:40:12 And we are not out of Trinidad.
00:40:14 We are there in Trinidad, all right?
00:40:18 Even last week, the people of Lavant Hill saw me.
00:40:19 In fact, I passed by the people of Nelson Street yesterday
00:40:22 and gave a horn.
00:40:23 I gave a pop-up.
00:40:24 So am I wrong?
00:40:26 Am I wrong?
00:40:27 And much as I'm here, I'm here in Tobago now.
00:40:28 I'm going to my constituents in Roxborough
00:40:30 in a while again to be among the people.
00:40:33 So I'm always in and about.
00:40:34 I'm about the people's business.
00:40:35 I don't know what you're talking about
00:40:37 that we're in a financial crisis.
00:40:39 I don't know if you want me to show you a wallet
00:40:41 and say this is what a wallet looks like.
00:40:43 I can't do that.
00:40:44 - What's in the Salomon Duke?
00:40:47 It's always a pleasure speaking with you, sir.
00:40:49 Thank you very much.
00:40:50 - My pleasure, Mala.
00:40:51 Thank you.
00:40:52 - All right, bye for now.
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00:44:32 - And welcome back everyone.
00:44:34 We are about to discuss the first
00:44:35 Caribbean Climate Gen C Conference.
00:44:39 We do have on the line Arlene Sergiou,
00:44:41 Communications Lead, the Cropper Foundation.
00:44:44 We also have Ariel Thomas, Associate Journal of CESA,
00:44:48 Curator of the Voices Podcast.
00:44:51 Good morning.
00:44:52 - Good morning, Marlon.
00:44:54 - Good morning, Ariel.
00:44:56 All right.
00:44:59 - It would be nice to see you though.
00:45:00 - All right, we'll try to organize that.
00:45:03 We're only hearing voices this morning, Arlene.
00:45:08 All right, let's begin with Ariel.
00:45:10 Ariel, please tell us a little bit
00:45:11 about the first Caribbean Climate Gen Z Conference.
00:45:15 - All right, so this conference that, you know,
00:45:19 we're very excited to host.
00:45:20 We are very excited to get people together.
00:45:22 First of its kind, as you mentioned,
00:45:24 and, you know, a question that we often get is why,
00:45:27 you know, why are we gonna focus on Gen Z?
00:45:29 And the answer to that is quite simple.
00:45:32 The young people are our future.
00:45:34 And if we would like to ensure that, you know,
00:45:37 our climate change and our sustainable development efforts
00:45:41 are not in vain, we need to invest in our young people
00:45:44 and instill in them that sense of ownership, you know,
00:45:47 of the process going forward.
00:45:48 So we felt it was important to meet these young people
00:45:52 where they're at.
00:45:53 And that is, you know, they are the ones
00:45:55 that are gonna bear the brunt of climate change impacts
00:45:58 into the future.
00:46:00 And at the same time, they feel relatively powerless
00:46:02 to influence the actual policy decisions
00:46:05 that could help us, you know,
00:46:07 mitigate the worst of the effects.
00:46:09 So we aim to empower young people
00:46:11 and equip them with the tools necessary
00:46:13 to help shape these strategies moving forward
00:46:16 to secure our sustainable development.
00:46:18 - Yeah, Arlene, let's speak about the participation
00:46:20 of the Cropper Foundation in all of this.
00:46:23 - Well, as you may know, Marlon,
00:46:25 the Cropper Foundation is a 23-year-old NGO
00:46:28 that has been focused on sustainable development
00:46:31 for as long as it's been around.
00:46:33 So it's no surprise really that we would get on board
00:46:36 an initiative like this.
00:46:37 We see the youth as an invaluable constituency
00:46:41 when we talk about climate change,
00:46:43 its impacts, adaptation, mitigation, et cetera.
00:46:47 And of course, because they're gonna be living through it
00:46:50 for much longer than we will.
00:46:51 And not just those who are Gen Zers now,
00:46:54 but certainly those to come after,
00:46:56 we think it's important to include their voice
00:46:58 as part of the whole climate justice thrust.
00:47:01 I'm sure you've heard about that.
00:47:03 You know, it's really important to create spaces
00:47:06 like Ariel mentioned to privilege those voices.
00:47:10 And if you know anything about the NGO sector,
00:47:12 you'd know that collaboration
00:47:14 is really just how we get anything done.
00:47:16 And so Journal of Caesar being one of our partner
00:47:19 organizations whose values, et cetera, we share,
00:47:24 it only made sense for us to get on board.
00:47:26 - Yeah.
00:47:27 Ariel, let's get back to the conference a little bit.
00:47:30 What are some of the main issues or concerns
00:47:35 that are going to be up for discussion?
00:47:38 - Well, you know, there's a wide range of topics
00:47:43 that we plan to cover during the event.
00:47:46 Essentially, we want to, as I said before,
00:47:48 meet young people where they're at.
00:47:50 First of all, we want to equip them
00:47:52 with a good understanding of the science
00:47:54 that underpins climate change and the things that we face.
00:47:59 So we're going to talk about climate science and you.
00:48:01 We're going to have boot camps talking about, you know,
00:48:04 climate science for the Caribbean,
00:48:06 climate policy with a Caribbean lens.
00:48:09 So really empowering young people
00:48:11 to have a solid understanding of the issues that we face.
00:48:16 And we're also going to equip them with tools
00:48:18 to how do you engage with policy makers, for example,
00:48:21 and how do you get professionals
00:48:23 or experts to listen to you?
00:48:25 So we're really looking at equipping the young people
00:48:28 to be able to walk into the future confidently
00:48:32 and know that they can shape the strategies
00:48:35 that help, you know, develop our region.
00:48:37 So those are some of the things that we have to talk about.
00:48:39 - When is the conference?
00:48:40 - It's this weekend.
00:48:43 For us, it starts tomorrow.
00:48:44 It's all online.
00:48:45 Starts tomorrow and it goes on through Sunday.
00:48:49 - Yeah.
00:48:49 And how many people are you catering for?
00:48:52 - Well, so far we're looking at a couple hundred online,
00:48:57 a couple hundred young people.
00:48:58 Now, of course, there is a sort of screening process
00:49:01 that applies here because while there are sessions
00:49:05 that are going to cater to the public,
00:49:07 so the keynote sessions, the plenary sessions
00:49:09 that start each day,
00:49:11 and anyone can join those once you're registered,
00:49:14 there are bootcamp sessions which are closed,
00:49:16 which are really for Gen Zers to drill down
00:49:20 into the meat of the matter
00:49:22 on the topics that Ariel mentioned.
00:49:24 So it's really open for anybody to sign up,
00:49:28 but we are emphasizing that the Gen Zers,
00:49:31 those people born between 1997 and 2013,
00:49:34 those are the folks who are prioritizing
00:49:36 for those closed workshops.
00:49:37 - Yeah.
00:49:38 Between 1997, I wonder if I'm eligible, boy.
00:49:41 I don't think so.
00:49:42 - Really, you're wondering?
00:49:43 (laughing)
00:49:44 - I mean, how can people register?
00:49:47 - So right now, a lot of the promotion has been done
00:49:52 and is being done through social media
00:49:54 because we know that's where Gen Zers live.
00:49:56 So on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
00:49:59 Journal of Caesar and Cropper Foundation,
00:50:02 that's where you can find the link to register.
00:50:05 It's very simple, straightforward,
00:50:07 and once you register,
00:50:08 you can then indicate what your areas of interest are
00:50:11 and you'll be signed up for the relevant boot camps.
00:50:14 - Yeah, Ariel, what has the response been thus far?
00:50:18 And let me put it on the table.
00:50:19 You think that young people are interested
00:50:22 in climate change and these issues
00:50:25 that you all are going to be speaking about?
00:50:27 - Yeah, I think there's been quite a bit of buzz online.
00:50:32 I've seen a lot, at least in my feeds.
00:50:35 I've seen a lot of interest in the conference.
00:50:37 And I think that even globally,
00:50:40 we see that young people are increasingly aware
00:50:45 that things are changing.
00:50:46 They're increasingly aware because they're very connected
00:50:48 and they're very plugged in.
00:50:50 And part of the problem is they don't really get a voice
00:50:55 in many spaces.
00:50:56 So I think they are definitely plugged in
00:50:59 and they are concerned because they realize
00:51:02 that they are the ones, as Aadheen said earlier,
00:51:05 they are the ones that are gonna have to live with this
00:51:07 for much longer than us.
00:51:08 And so I think there's definitely a moment in time
00:51:11 where they feel like they need to stand up,
00:51:14 they need to influence the way forward.
00:51:16 And yeah, so I think there's definitely gonna be
00:51:19 very good engagement and we are excited to see
00:51:23 all of the young people come together
00:51:25 and network across the region.
00:51:27 I think it's gonna be a catalyst
00:51:28 for this intra-regional networking
00:51:31 because we're gonna have people from all different islands
00:51:33 seeing, hey, we're all in this together.
00:51:36 So definitely a great time to get the young people together.
00:51:41 - And Malin, just as Ariel mentioned,
00:51:43 across the region, this being a real pan-Caribbean thing,
00:51:47 I want to emphasize that our speakers also represent
00:51:50 the range of Caribbean outreach
00:51:52 that we've done for this conference.
00:51:54 And so our keynote speakers are actually from St. Lucia,
00:51:59 Barbados, Jamaica, even if I think maybe one of them
00:52:03 just doesn't live in the region, but the rest of them do.
00:52:06 And some of them are also youth advocates,
00:52:10 leading revolutionaries, some of them would describe
00:52:13 themselves in their own territories.
00:52:14 We have Gabrielle Gay, for instance, from Barbados,
00:52:17 who's doing a lot in the education sector.
00:52:21 Ashley Lashley was one of our feature speakers
00:52:23 at our pre-event a couple of Saturdays ago.
00:52:26 And again, very active in the civil society space,
00:52:30 advocating on behalf of women, children, et cetera.
00:52:33 And so it's gonna be an excellent opportunity
00:52:36 to see just what the region is churning out
00:52:40 in terms of the next generation of leaders.
00:52:43 - Arlene, after these two days of talks,
00:52:45 what's the next step?
00:52:46 Is it that some document is going to be compiled
00:52:50 and then you hand it over to another organization,
00:52:53 another agency, what's the next step?
00:52:56 - Well, it's a three-day conference, right?
00:52:58 So Friday through Sunday.
00:53:00 And because the focus is really on harnessing that energy
00:53:05 toward increasing activism among our youth and advocacy
00:53:09 and privileging those voices, as we said,
00:53:12 the focus is really just gonna be on ensuring
00:53:14 that they have a space.
00:53:15 So the space itself lives on.
00:53:17 So after the conference, the idea is to set up
00:53:19 incubator programs so that they can continue to do that work
00:53:23 and find community, because we know that's a big part
00:53:26 of what is needed.
00:53:27 I mean, when you look at those youth movements,
00:53:29 for instance, that Ariel referenced earlier,
00:53:32 I mean, they're talking, you talk about young people
00:53:34 who are part of communities,
00:53:36 and that's a big part of activism and advocacy.
00:53:40 So the focus is really going to be seeing how we can support
00:53:43 or continue to support that work
00:53:45 with the help of private sector
00:53:47 and big philanthropic organizations
00:53:50 like the Open Society Foundations,
00:53:52 who is supporting this to a great degree.
00:53:56 And so that is really what our focus is gonna be
00:53:59 going forward, where Gen Zers are concerned.
00:54:01 - Yeah, Ariel, anything else you'd like to share with us
00:54:04 before you leave us this morning?
00:54:06 - Yeah, I mean, I think, you know,
00:54:07 Arlene summed it up really nicely.
00:54:09 We want to support, we want to use our platform
00:54:12 to give young people a voice.
00:54:15 We also have, speaking of voices,
00:54:18 we have a podcast called Seize Our Voices,
00:54:21 and we are in developing some sort of platform
00:54:25 where we can give young people the chance to connect,
00:54:28 to share their projects, to share the work
00:54:31 that they have been doing
00:54:32 and amplify their voices in the region as well.
00:54:34 So we intend to use our platforms and our access
00:54:39 to launch the youths into the future.
00:54:41 So we're looking forward.
00:54:44 - Yeah, so Arlene, people can still register
00:54:47 via your social media platforms?
00:54:49 - Yes, all day today, because it's online,
00:54:52 it's much easier to accommodate huge numbers of people,
00:54:55 though we're not really interested
00:54:57 in attracting huge numbers.
00:54:59 What we want are the people who are at least curious
00:55:02 about what this is all about and how they can contribute,
00:55:05 how they can get involved.
00:55:07 And also those who are already on the ground doing the work,
00:55:10 who are aspiring change makers, leaders.
00:55:14 Those are the people we really want.
00:55:15 So as much as it'll be great to say
00:55:18 we had 500 people attend the conference,
00:55:20 that is not the bottom line.
00:55:22 At the end of the day, it's really about attracting
00:55:24 the people who want to be there and need to be there.
00:55:26 - Yeah, Adeen, Ariel, thank you very much
00:55:28 for speaking with us this morning.
00:55:31 - Thanks a lot. - Thank you so much,
00:55:31 Marlon, for the opportunity.
00:55:33 - All right, bye for now.
00:55:34 So we are going to another break.
00:55:36 We do also have the seven o'clock news update for you.
00:55:39 Coming back.
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00:55:57 - Good morning, and here's the news to the hour.
00:56:05 36-year-old Trevon Mitchell never stood a chance
00:56:08 against gunmen who lay in wait as he left his home
00:56:12 and opened fire on his vehicle.
00:56:14 In Claxton Bay yesterday, investigators say
00:56:18 that Mitchell had driven out of his yard
00:56:21 in his Mazda pickup truck around 6.30 p.m.
00:56:24 and shortly after proceeding along the road,
00:56:27 loud explosions were heard.
00:56:29 Police recovered over 25 spent shells from the crime scene
00:56:33 and they say they are yet to ascertain a motive
00:56:36 for the killing.
00:56:37 There was no wailing or moaning at the final farewell
00:56:42 for the late Denise Plower.
00:56:44 Instead, it was a send-off in song.
00:56:47 Family, friends, and well-wishers filled the auditorium
00:56:51 to pay their final respects to the woman
00:56:53 who will be remembered by many,
00:56:55 but perhaps none more fondly than those two souls
00:57:00 whom she brought into this world.
00:57:01 - Even before she fully gave her life to God,
00:57:04 she always had a goodness about her.
00:57:07 And I think that's what everyone loved.
00:57:09 Her brand was love.
00:57:12 It's what she represented.
00:57:14 She enjoyed making people feel special.
00:57:17 Don't think it was dumb luck after a few rolls
00:57:20 of toilet paper that got her to the top of her game.
00:57:23 She was a hard worker and she loved what she did
00:57:27 and she loved her country.
00:57:28 - Taking a look at the weather forecast
00:57:32 heading offshore today,
00:57:34 marine interests are advised to exercise a bit of caution
00:57:37 and anticipate northerly long-period swells
00:57:40 which can agitate sea conditions,
00:57:42 especially along northern coastal areas.
00:57:45 Overall, mainly hot and sunny daytime conditions prevail,
00:57:49 with a medium chance of a few cloudy patches,
00:57:52 at times accompanied by brief isolated showers.
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01:00:39 And welcome back everyone.
01:00:49 So we're going to take up the energy
01:00:51 because our next guest, you know, he's a man of energy.
01:00:54 Yeah, look, look, he already starts to move, you know.
01:00:57 Seventh day Adventist pastor
01:00:59 and former member of the police service commission,
01:01:01 Clive Doughty, he's here with us this morning.
01:01:03 Pastor, it's always good to see you.
01:01:05 - Yes, it's good to see you.
01:01:06 You know, I had global conferences in Washington
01:01:10 and I myself conducted an international program
01:01:13 for youth and families at Utica Avenue for four weeks.
01:01:16 And it turned out to be quite an interesting affair
01:01:18 because young people of different ethnic groups came in.
01:01:22 You might know there's a movement by even Caucasians
01:01:26 and whites back into Brooklyn, you know,
01:01:30 that has sent the prices of buildings
01:01:32 and apartments skyrocketing.
01:01:34 So we had a tremendous amount of responses.
01:01:38 I mean, the program, we're in a large tent.
01:01:43 I was basically, should I say sold out, you know what I mean?
01:01:47 I keep saying I'm the incurable optimist
01:01:50 when it comes to young people.
01:01:51 And if you touch where it matters most,
01:01:53 I'll give you one example.
01:01:55 We had a young man there who was homeless from the age of 15
01:01:59 and he has been living on the streets
01:02:01 and I compliment Dr. Alan Martin,
01:02:03 our public affairs director in Northeastern Conference,
01:02:06 who literally went after that guy
01:02:09 and did his best to have him housed, you know what I mean?
01:02:13 And to be in a stable environment.
01:02:15 He's still battling the cocaine, I should tell you.
01:02:17 The young man is still battling the cocaine,
01:02:19 but you have a group of individuals who are surrounding him.
01:02:23 And that to my mind, it's a major hog, you know,
01:02:28 in terms of if you want to move forward with young people.
01:02:31 And then yesterday I had two sad experiences.
01:02:34 One I heard on air because I have just started an alliance
01:02:37 with the Scrap Iron Dealers Association, Alan Ferguson,
01:02:41 who by the way comes from Kelly Village.
01:02:43 You know, we were just there two weeks ago.
01:02:45 The next stop I think is La Romaine.
01:02:47 - I know that you specifically and other people
01:02:49 have been doing a lot of work in Kelly Village.
01:02:50 - Yes, yes, with a lot of folks, ex-prisoners and stuff.
01:02:53 That has been my fourth intervention
01:02:55 with people like Samuel Sankar,
01:02:57 a senior entrepreneur and an elite
01:02:58 from the Guardian Emergency Branch,
01:03:01 a business people, an ex-prisoner
01:03:02 who is now a Pentecostal pastor.
01:03:05 We have an alliance of about 15 groups
01:03:07 in Kelly Village there, doing our best to reduce
01:03:09 and make it a model for reduction of the murder rate.
01:03:12 Okay, I always say if you have a heart for young people,
01:03:16 the young people will discover that.
01:03:18 But yesterday apart from the bad news
01:03:20 of the killing in Claxton Bay,
01:03:22 now Claxton Bay, I buried ghosts early in the year, all right,
01:03:26 he was in a life of crime and then came out, all right,
01:03:30 and set up his own car wash business
01:03:33 and was gone down in front of the car wash business.
01:03:35 I have a clip of where his last three minutes
01:03:37 where he was gasping for breath while he was bleeding.
01:03:40 So I want to tell young people who are watching
01:03:43 that a life of crime does not pay and it is painful.
01:03:46 It's painful not just to you, but it's painful,
01:03:49 you know, to the family members.
01:03:51 It's painful to the community.
01:03:54 And we have got to understand that.
01:03:56 We are always, you know, let us keep remembering
01:03:59 we are always stronger together.
01:04:01 But yesterday we buried Kyle.
01:04:03 Now, Marlon, if I have a chance just to tell you about Kyle,
01:04:07 I got involved in that case about five years ago,
01:04:10 about two years before COVID.
01:04:12 And the whole issue with Kyle started with the death,
01:04:16 the war between at that time the ISIS group
01:04:20 and the Rasta city group.
01:04:21 And that war continues.
01:04:24 Let not Trinidad and Tobago,
01:04:25 the government opposition feel that war has ended
01:04:28 or is localized in any one spot.
01:04:30 Lila Rambin from the Catholic Commission for Social Justice.
01:04:34 She keeps talking about the migratory criminal.
01:04:37 So you're in Laventier, be a killing in Narima.
01:04:39 You're in Narima, be a killing in Laramie.
01:04:41 That is important to note that.
01:04:44 But Kyle and I became like father and son for three years.
01:04:49 We would meet at the mall because, you know,
01:04:51 he was dodging the bullets for three years.
01:04:53 First he was moved from Tanapona to his sister in Mova.
01:04:57 And then he moved from there to Gonzales.
01:04:59 But the one fact in Kyle's life was pastor dotting
01:05:02 in the sense that, you know, he would come to the office,
01:05:05 especially every month, 10,
01:05:06 when he was running out of groceries and stuff.
01:05:09 And he would come.
01:05:11 He was shot and killed on the 18th, right?
01:05:14 On the 17th, 24 hours before he was gunned down
01:05:19 and he was shot right through his eyes.
01:05:20 That was a very painful experience yesterday,
01:05:22 the precious memories.
01:05:24 Home, funeral, home chapel in Five Rivers.
01:05:28 Kyle made a remark to me, he said,
01:05:29 pastor, I want to get out of this stuff completely now.
01:05:32 I've been running from the gangs.
01:05:34 I am no longer, the police wouldn't believe me,
01:05:36 but I am no longer in the gang story.
01:05:40 And I want to get out.
01:05:41 I need two things, pastor, for you to help me with.
01:05:43 Number one, I need a place to stay.
01:05:45 My landlord has virtually kicked me out.
01:05:47 I need a place to stay and I need a job
01:05:50 because I want to do it the right way.
01:05:53 When he was, listen, that was on the 17th of August.
01:05:56 He was in my office telling me what is planned for the future.
01:06:00 After three to four years of working with him,
01:06:01 and I thank the Turner Pooner Assembly Adventist Church
01:06:03 who had an interest in the Fleming family.
01:06:06 The family of 10, he had nine siblings, I tell you.
01:06:09 So he came to me on the 17th, all right?
01:06:13 After that, two days passed,
01:06:16 I was up in the material rehabilitation center
01:06:20 and I got a call from Kyle's mom,
01:06:22 but I couldn't take it any time.
01:06:23 I was in the middle of counseling the guys
01:06:24 up at the material rehabilitation center.
01:06:28 And then I saw a message,
01:06:29 Kyle was gunned down, murdered last night.
01:06:32 That shook me like nothing else could shake me
01:06:36 because that guy actually became my son.
01:06:38 - Yes.
01:06:39 - And I have been crying out to the state, all right,
01:06:42 let us have a national adoption program for young people
01:06:46 apart from national service.
01:06:49 In other words, these are two things
01:06:51 that we need to look at, all right, carefully.
01:06:54 Yes, I know the adoption program at families,
01:06:57 the family is at risk, especially of young people.
01:07:00 And so we have to rule out guidelines
01:07:02 to make sure it is a success.
01:07:05 And the receiving family does not pay a price
01:07:08 where they lose their own children too.
01:07:10 'Cause I have had experiences
01:07:11 where we have located young people in homes
01:07:15 and they begin to target the children
01:07:17 of the parents who are receiving them.
01:07:19 - So then I'm asking, so then the question is,
01:07:20 is how effective is that suggestion going to be?
01:07:25 - Well, I believe with the proper guidelines, it can work.
01:07:28 Okay, there are guidelines both for the receiving folks,
01:07:32 those folks who are doing the adopting
01:07:34 and there are guidelines, all right.
01:07:36 In other words, don't change the rules in your home.
01:07:39 All right, and those things must be explained before.
01:07:41 You can't just take a young person
01:07:43 and drop him in a home.
01:07:44 And when I say a home, a family home
01:07:46 or a residential home operated by an organization.
01:07:49 And we have several of them, the Love Until Foundation,
01:07:51 we have several of them.
01:07:52 We have a transition home.
01:07:54 We have the Rafa Home for Boys and Girls,
01:07:56 Brian Jones, Simon Jones and all of them,
01:07:58 Rachel Bing, they're in charge.
01:08:00 And they said we're going on for some time
01:08:02 and a lot of sacrifice, you know,
01:08:04 people sacrificing their own resources,
01:08:06 people like Steve Bing and they, you know,
01:08:09 and then we have groups like Shabadi
01:08:11 with the St. James Police Youth Club.
01:08:13 They just finished an exciting camp, you know, in August.
01:08:16 And every now and then, you know,
01:08:17 these groups cry out for resources.
01:08:20 I am not sure, and I could be totally wrong,
01:08:23 the governmental agencies are touching
01:08:26 the heart of the problem when it comes
01:08:29 to dealing with young people and groups
01:08:31 who have a track record, you know,
01:08:33 of being there for young people
01:08:35 and having a success rate.
01:08:37 I mean, we are talking about over 100 young people,
01:08:40 all right, some parents have given up on them
01:08:42 and they're doing well in the youth club
01:08:44 and they have a graduation program.
01:08:46 - So then what you're saying is that
01:08:48 the focus of the government or the resources
01:08:53 are being channeled in the wrong direction.
01:08:56 - I am saying that I am yet to see an evaluation tool
01:09:01 that reveals to the state, all right,
01:09:04 that this group is doing so much
01:09:06 and they need more resources.
01:09:08 And I'm not saying willy-nilly just go on, you know,
01:09:10 we live and we grow, we still are, what,
01:09:12 we're 61 years old now, and I think we could celebrate
01:09:15 that in a big way by looking at groups, all right,
01:09:19 who have a proven track record of rescuing youth.
01:09:22 So now you have one person in a group
01:09:26 who is reaching out to 50 young people
01:09:28 and they should not be left alone, all right,
01:09:31 to take on that responsibility is so stressful.
01:09:34 And I am saying we need to direct our resources
01:09:37 in a greater way, not saying it's not directed,
01:09:39 but in a greater way to the groups
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01:09:41 - Pastor, hold on to your thoughts
01:09:43 for a little while longer.
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01:12:41 - All right, and we do have this lovely picture for you.
01:12:43 It's from the North Coast from Ronald Daniel, yeah?
01:12:48 Pastor Doughty, you're going to have to take a trip there.
01:12:50 Look at, this is beautiful.
01:12:51 - Lovely.
01:12:52 - Yeah, but Pastor, overnight,
01:12:55 we received reports of more killings in Trinidad and Tobago.
01:12:59 I believe we have gone over 400 murders
01:13:03 for the year at this time.
01:13:07 What's your perspective as you look
01:13:09 into the coming months and into next year?
01:13:13 - Well, I must tell you,
01:13:15 I have a document I've written here
01:13:17 where I'm saying that the recruitment program of the gangs,
01:13:22 the gangs actually winning the war when it comes to crime.
01:13:26 I mean, I expect Lula Christopher to sound upbeat
01:13:28 and to be optimistic and the prime minister.
01:13:31 I appreciate that.
01:13:33 But the gangs are actually winning the war
01:13:36 and we have made them feel that way.
01:13:38 And what the gangs have done,
01:13:39 have they have penetrated significant institutions,
01:13:42 including the police and the army, you know?
01:13:44 Somebody even told me that they believe some gang leaders
01:13:47 set up young people to join those organizations
01:13:50 as part of the invasion of the sacred space of that group.
01:13:54 I want to mention one thing.
01:13:56 A young man, some young people from Laventille
01:13:58 who have their heads going right,
01:14:00 brought some children to me.
01:14:02 Those children witnessed Sandman's killing.
01:14:04 They were at the home at the time
01:14:06 when the murders took place there.
01:14:08 And I interviewed the young people
01:14:11 and asked them how they felt
01:14:12 because they were brought to me for a level of counseling
01:14:17 and for encouragement and to get them right back on the right track.
01:14:20 Oh, these are children.
01:14:22 I mean, I had a funeral yesterday
01:14:24 and I'm seeing 14 and 15-year-olds smoking
01:14:28 and you could see the impact on the eyes,
01:14:30 how they look, how they relate.
01:14:32 I mean, Kai was shot in one of his eyes apparently
01:14:35 and he had a pair of shades on
01:14:38 and a young lady come and said, "That is not him.
01:14:41 That is not him," and moved and overexposed the face.
01:14:44 You know what I mean?
01:14:46 And therefore, what is happening
01:14:48 is that we have to have a superior recruitment program
01:14:51 and be genuine about it for the young people
01:14:53 who are in a state of crisis, who are confused, you know, who...
01:14:57 You know, sometimes we make decisions in Parliament
01:15:00 but we don't think of the cost.
01:15:02 And I'll tell you what I mean by that.
01:15:03 OK, so we said you could have four plants in your yard
01:15:07 and it's decriminalized.
01:15:09 What does that really mean?
01:15:11 But at the same time,
01:15:12 you don't want every young person in the country to be smoking.
01:15:15 You don't want to have thousands of our young people,
01:15:17 some of them under 15, smoking, going to school,
01:15:20 dealing with the impact.
01:15:22 I know just recently from Harvard Medical School,
01:15:25 Dr Judy Gilman said that this marijuana thing
01:15:29 affecting a part of the brain that deals with memory and learning,
01:15:32 you know, the nucleus occumbens, that's what she said.
01:15:35 And she's no sceptic, I don't know if she's any religion.
01:15:38 She's just a researcher.
01:15:39 She's an associate professor
01:15:41 at the Centre for Addiction Studies at Harvard Medical School.
01:15:44 And she's saying that.
01:15:46 And I fault, you know, our universities
01:15:49 and I fault our state agencies
01:15:51 because what you needed to have,
01:15:53 while you decriminalized it,
01:15:55 you don't want to just send them in jail and everything else.
01:15:58 At the same time,
01:15:59 you have to have a parallel education program
01:16:02 that exposes the dangers of this thing,
01:16:04 the impact on the immune system,
01:16:05 the impact on the brain,
01:16:06 the impact upon the emotions,
01:16:09 the impact on your dreaming capacity.
01:16:11 Now, she is saying, Dr Judy,
01:16:13 she is saying that the ability to craft a dream and a vision,
01:16:17 all right, the part of the brain that deals with that
01:16:19 is being damaged and affected and penetrated.
01:16:23 - Is it your view that the decriminalization
01:16:25 of a certain amount of marijuana in Trinidad and Tobago
01:16:28 has not had the desired results?
01:16:30 - No, it has backfired tremendously.
01:16:32 Listen, let me tell you something.
01:16:34 You know, Superintendent Alexander asked me a question
01:16:37 one night I was on your program.
01:16:39 And you know what he asked me?
01:16:40 If you were in a position of power and you could reverse it,
01:16:43 would you, I said, yes, I would reverse it.
01:16:45 And what I'm saying is,
01:16:46 not that I want the young people to go into jail,
01:16:48 you know, we could give them a ticket or whatever have you
01:16:50 so we could keep all the jail story,
01:16:51 but it has backfired immensely,
01:16:54 even in terms of road accidents.
01:16:55 But the young people on the three drugs now,
01:16:57 you know, one time,
01:16:58 then the alcohol and the tobacco,
01:17:00 then the ganja,
01:17:01 and a few of them on four,
01:17:02 then the cocaine.
01:17:03 And if you watch at some funerals where gang guys
01:17:07 or guys who are used to being gangs
01:17:09 have been shot and killed and buried.
01:17:11 If you watch something,
01:17:13 you will see the age range of smokers
01:17:15 getting lower and lower.
01:17:17 And that has to have devastating consequences
01:17:21 for the youth of the country
01:17:23 and the potential leadership of the country.
01:17:25 And by the way,
01:17:26 you can have a million degrees and PhDs,
01:17:29 unless you have a heart for young people,
01:17:30 you're not going to impact upon them, you know.
01:17:32 So we must have a heart for young people.
01:17:34 And we need to have a national heart too.
01:17:36 That's why I talk about that National Adoption Program,
01:17:39 your National Service also.
01:17:41 I believe in what Louis Lee Singh says
01:17:44 in terms of that National Service Program,
01:17:46 how we craft it in a plural society,
01:17:48 will be, you know,
01:17:49 will take some effort.
01:17:51 But I'm saying we just cast it on
01:17:52 and say we can't do anything.
01:17:54 And they have opportunities,
01:17:56 my part, but they're not into them.
01:17:58 The question is why they're not into them?
01:18:00 And are we doing enough to encourage them
01:18:02 and motivate them?
01:18:03 I believe we need to put youth as a national,
01:18:06 saving youth as a national strategic issue in the country.
01:18:10 - So in your view,
01:18:11 there has to be a total review.
01:18:13 - And rethinking of how we reach out to our young people.
01:18:16 - Of all of the mechanisms that are in place.
01:18:17 - Definitely, definitely.
01:18:19 In fact, while I talk about having a grief care program too,
01:18:23 a lot, I watched Kyle's mother yesterday and the father,
01:18:26 and they would hit the coffin,
01:18:27 and they would, everybody was coming,
01:18:28 all his nine siblings come in and kiss him
01:18:30 while he's in the coffin there.
01:18:32 A sense of loss, a sense of hopelessness.
01:18:34 And that is why they're returning to that ganja thing too,
01:18:37 you know, because they feel that could kind of calm them
01:18:40 and pacify them and give them a sense
01:18:43 of a return to, you know,
01:18:45 having control over their lives.
01:18:46 And it is doing the exact opposite.
01:18:49 That is what it is.
01:18:49 - But you know, Pastor, people have been looking for,
01:18:53 and I don't want to use this word,
01:18:55 but I'm going to use it, a quick fixer.
01:18:57 - Yes, yes, you're right.
01:18:58 - Because the country has had enough,
01:18:59 citizens have had enough,
01:19:01 and all of the resources that have been pumped
01:19:04 into fighting crime,
01:19:06 I think that, I think it is safe to say
01:19:08 that we have not gotten the desired results.
01:19:11 - Sure.
01:19:12 - And that has to be done.
01:19:13 - Well, I tell you,
01:19:14 the only way I see,
01:19:17 in terms of the country going forward,
01:19:19 is that we definitely have to have,
01:19:22 at the governmental level, you know,
01:19:24 constitutional reform.
01:19:26 And I'm looking at it at the top level.
01:19:28 But secondly, we have got to have the uniting
01:19:31 of all the groups and religion at the community level.
01:19:33 Now, Sunday coming at you,
01:19:35 we will launch in a group, it's Interfaith,
01:19:37 CTA led by Shalisa Khan-Ali,
01:19:40 and a lot of educators and different professions
01:19:42 in it, and I feel that it's part of the way forward.
01:19:44 But apart from that,
01:19:46 what we have to do is unite people
01:19:47 at the level of the community.
01:19:49 We have seen some success.
01:19:50 Yes, we just had the killing of a 16 year old
01:19:52 in Kelly Village, all right?
01:19:53 And that hurt us immensely.
01:19:55 But what I'm saying is that we mustn't give up hope.
01:19:58 And we have seen a certain level of reduction
01:20:00 in that same Kelly Village.
01:20:02 But the race is not over.
01:20:03 One of the worst things you could do in community work,
01:20:05 is to think the fight is over when it's not over.
01:20:07 - Pastor, we have 30 seconds.
01:20:09 What about the role of the parent?
01:20:10 - The role of the parent is significant.
01:20:12 Parents, listen, don't give up hope.
01:20:14 That's the first thing I want to hear.
01:20:16 Chabuddy and I worked with a family in Diamondville,
01:20:19 and I saw the mom reaching,
01:20:20 she said, "Pastor, the guy's doing well, you know.
01:20:22 "He's only 15, he's doing well.
01:20:24 "He's changing around.
01:20:25 "He's getting his schoolwork done."
01:20:28 And we are seeing a big change in him.
01:20:30 That is what we want for every youth.
01:20:32 And parents, you have got to set the right example.
01:20:34 You can't be smoking marijuana, all right?
01:20:36 And telling a young man, "Don't smoke marijuana."
01:20:39 You can't be loose and coming home every time,
01:20:41 and leave the children loose and out of control.
01:20:43 Parents, let us have a sense of divine purpose.
01:20:46 And by the way, let us have God in the family too, all right?
01:20:50 Divine purpose and divine accountability.
01:20:52 Marlon, thank you very much.
01:20:53 - Pastor, as always, it's always a pleasure
01:20:55 speaking with you.
01:20:56 Thank you very much for the education as always.
01:20:58 Thank you very much. - God bless.
01:20:59 - Yeah, so we are going to another break,
01:21:01 but that's gonna be it for me on Morning Edition for today.
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01:28:04 What a way to get started this morning
01:28:06 on the "Bowl Them Out" cricket show.
01:28:07 I'm your host James Saunders
01:28:09 and today we've got a good one for you
01:28:11 as we saw Nicky P getting 100.
01:28:13 Wow.
01:28:14 Well, that's because they're back on the winning train
01:28:16 as the Chumbago Knight Riders men and women.
01:28:19 Well, they won their matches at the Queen's Park Oval.
01:28:21 I think many of us,
01:28:22 oh, you might've left our voices there as well.
01:28:25 We look back at the highlights,
01:28:26 check out some of the sites and the songs
01:28:28 and catch up with a classic legend.
01:28:30 It's all coming up on the "Bowl Them Out" cricket show.
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01:28:40 All right, it's time to get the party started
01:28:51 as the Chumbago Knight Riders earned a valuable win
01:28:54 as they defeated the Barbados Royals
01:28:56 by 42 runs in the CPL last evening.
01:28:59 While the Royals won the tour,
01:29:00 San chose the field first.
01:29:01 However, Nicholas Puran, as you saw,
01:29:03 scored a fantastic century
01:29:05 as the Knight Riders posted a sizable 208 for six
01:29:09 after their 20 overs.
01:29:10 While the Royals were unable to chase down the total,
01:29:13 despite a value of 70 from Kyle Mayers
01:29:15 as the spin bowling of Waka Salamkeel and Aki Hussain
01:29:19 played a crucial role in restricting the Royals
01:29:21 to 166 for seven after 20 overs.
01:29:25 Offside.
01:29:32 Classic from Martin Guptill.
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01:29:49 It's a run out.
01:29:51 Nicholas Puran and Kieran Pollard, no communication.
01:30:00 Has he hit it? Yes, he has.
01:30:02 It is the most welcome hundred for Nicky B.
01:30:09 Over the head of Nicholas Puran,
01:30:14 gets enough of it, boundary.
01:30:16 In there, take on.
01:30:20 Aki Hussain makes the adjustment.
01:30:27 Got his man, he'll have his man twice for the season.
01:30:30 Salamkeel has Roman Powell.
01:30:32 And there it is.
01:30:36 Full toss, not the Yorker to deal the victory.
01:30:40 Knight Riders, well, they come back like a boomerang.
01:30:47 Oh, was it Beanie Man that said
01:30:50 memories don't live like people do?
01:30:51 Tell you what, lots of memories.
01:30:53 We're gonna take a pause and when we come back,
01:30:55 we dig deep, get inside all of the action right here
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01:33:15 We exposed five strangers to KFC's delicious chicken
01:33:21 to see if any time could be KFC time.
01:33:24 And at the first bite, the party began.
01:33:27 We repeated the experiment during the day,
01:33:30 during business hours,
01:33:32 on weekends,
01:33:33 with sunshine,
01:33:35 with rain.
01:33:36 And it's confirmed -
01:33:38 KFC's flavour mix any time, KFC time.
01:33:42 KFC - it's finger-lickin' good.
01:33:45 # Now more than ever
01:33:49 # We must remember
01:33:51 # PTSD
01:33:52 # We're driven by pride
01:33:54 # Keeping our nation's people safe inside
01:33:58 # PTSD
01:34:00 # Better each day
01:34:01 # Improving in each and every way
01:34:04 # PTSD
01:34:05 # Always showing the way
01:34:08 # Hey! #
01:34:09 # PTSD
01:34:11 # Every day
01:34:12 # Moving people forward. #
01:34:15 BUZZER
01:34:17 # We stop them all on their way
01:34:21 # Everything's got to change because we're bolder, we're bolder, we're bolder. #
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01:35:10 Oh, boy, our resident analyst, Marcus Daniel, in all of the celebration.
01:35:14 Let's take a look at the table now, and look at that, look at that.
01:35:18 Well, hot air rises to the top, and the very hot Chimbego Knight Riders
01:35:22 rising to second on the table, just behind the guy in the Amazon Warriors.
01:35:26 What's important to note, though, the Amazon Warriors,
01:35:29 well, they've played less than the Chimbego Knight Riders.
01:35:33 St Lucia Kings are in third at the moment.
01:35:36 They play on the weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
01:35:39 Barbados Royals, well, they've slipped and slid just a bit down to fourth.
01:35:43 The Tallawahs, well, they're down in fifth,
01:35:45 while the Sillikets and Nevis Patriots, still without a win,
01:35:49 and having played the most amount of matches.
01:35:52 That is very, very important to note.
01:35:55 All right, let's take a pause and go behind the scenes
01:35:58 to see some of the action behind what you might have missed.
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01:37:13 All right, so we're going to take a pause and when we come back,
01:37:17 we've got a lot more here on the Bold 'Em Out cricket show.
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01:42:06 HONKING
01:42:17 Of course, lots of celebration is still happening here in Chiltern Island
01:42:20 Tobago, where the Chiltern Baygo Knight Riders getting a win
01:42:23 against the Barbados Royals.
01:42:25 Well, it's not just the men who are celebrating because the women
01:42:28 earlier in the day, they got to a 13-run win over the Barbados Royals women.
01:42:33 DeAndre Dutton showed a rich beam of form, scoring 47 runs as the TKR team.
01:42:38 Well, they scored 155, and despite a blitz from Haley Matthews and Gabby Lewis,
01:42:44 well, they were able to withstand that and get the victory.
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01:42:51 Looked onside in the gap. This is good gap finding.
01:42:59 Yeah, no question she was going to attack her. Will it be saved? No.
01:43:05 Yes, she can.
01:43:08 Magnificent shot.
01:43:14 Lofted into the onside with consummate ease.
01:43:18 Chipped down and a lovely stroke.
01:43:23 Some pride from all of the villagers in the air.
01:43:28 Well taken. Brilliant catch. Wicket in her first game, the 15-year-old Samara Ramnath.
01:43:36 Here it is. Last ball of the innings.
01:43:39 And she will take a wicket. Icing on the cake, so to speak.
01:43:44 A W for the Trinbago Knight Riders.
01:43:47 Lots of excitement right there. Well, the excitement for the Trinbago Knight Riders
01:43:53 at least that they get some points on the board. Their first points level with the Ghana Amazon Warriors.
01:43:58 However, the Amazon Warriors' better net run rate remain in second.
01:44:02 And look at that, the Barbados Royals unfeezed at the top.
01:44:05 They sit pretty with their six points in the competition, almost assured of getting to the finals.
01:44:11 Well, I tell you what, to analyse and to break down all of the action that we saw yesterday,
01:44:16 I've got a very good friend of mine, Barry Wilkinson, one of the regional voices in cricket,
01:44:21 to talk about what took place yesterday. Good morning, Barry.
01:44:24 Good morning to you, James, and good morning to your many viewers.
01:44:28 Well, Barry, you will on hand first time to witness all of the action that took place yesterday.
01:44:33 Let's start with the men and then we'll talk about the women in just a bit.
01:44:37 Summarise in your words what you saw yesterday in that match as TKR took on the Royals.
01:44:43 Well, Nico Skoran has been a fast act all year.
01:44:47 When you look at how he is being consistently scoring runs, what happened last night was no surprise.
01:44:53 And I think that mix up with the run out actually spurred him on to get that century and bat so well.
01:45:01 He took the game away from Barbados. They were left breathless.
01:45:04 And when they went to bat, you saw that they certainly did not have a plan.
01:45:08 And it was quite unfortunate for them.
01:45:10 And I didn't see it going any other way, basically, after how well Skoran and Russell
01:45:15 just took the game away from Barbados when they batted.
01:45:18 So once you're going to have that kind of momentum coming out onto the field,
01:45:22 it's going to be difficult. And Barbados just were not able.
01:45:24 They didn't have the depth to catch up and get the runs scored on.
01:45:29 A pretty good pitch, I wish I must tell you, at the Queen's Park Oval.
01:45:32 Yeah, let's talk about that surface at the Queen's Park Oval.
01:45:35 Very surprising. We did commentary together last evening against a guy in the Amazon Warriors.
01:45:40 We didn't know what type of pitch to expect.
01:45:42 And over 200 plus runs were scored on that pitch yesterday by the Tunbago Knight Riders.
01:45:49 What do you make of the surface at the Queen's Park Oval?
01:45:51 Was that a surprise for you to see how it played?
01:45:53 I was not surprised how the surface played because if you look at the way that they were rolling it,
01:45:58 that heavy roller was on that surface for quite some time.
01:46:02 So it was a good batting pitch and it has been a good batting pitch for the entire day.
01:46:07 Don't forget the women would have played earlier and we also saw a very competitive game from them.
01:46:12 The Queen's Park Oval pitch has had some criticism in terms of how it has been played uneven.
01:46:18 And I believe that the curator and the ground staff decided we are going to make this as batting friendly as possible
01:46:25 to give the fans something to watch that will be exciting and that's just what happened.
01:46:31 So the surface played through the form. It also had a bit of spin. It also had some turn.
01:46:35 I thought it was one of the fairest pitches I've seen at the Oval in quite some time.
01:46:39 And I can't be too critical of it.
01:46:41 When you look at the fact that we also had Ali Kan bowling with great pace, it shows that it was even.
01:46:48 So there was nothing uneven about that pitch. It was a good cricket wicket.
01:46:52 It was just that Trinidad and Tobago Knight Riders, their experience and their depth was just too good for Barbados.
01:46:57 How good was Nicolas Puran? Nicolas Puran getting the third century in the meal version of the tournament.
01:47:02 How good was that innings?
01:47:04 I think he's in a good place right now. I remember him saying a couple of weeks ago that he's enjoying his cricket.
01:47:10 And that is always important. Mentally if you're going to be enjoying your cricket you've got to get those kind of results.
01:47:16 Puran has always been a bit of a favourite of mine because of his natural talent.
01:47:21 I just think that he's set himself some goals so therefore he's hungry to reach those goals and attain those goals.
01:47:28 And that's why we've seen that level of success.
01:47:30 I think that if he continues in this particular vein it speaks well for TKR going forward in this season.
01:47:36 And you look at the experience of Trinidad and Tobago team, they really shouldn't be losing any matches.
01:47:41 When you look at the experience that they have.
01:47:43 Kieran Pollard, even though he's in his mid-thirties, is still very good enough to play and get runs.
01:47:50 And to lead the side, which he's been doing quite well.
01:47:53 So if Puran is going to be coming in at number three, battling like that, it spells trouble for everyone else that TKR is going to play this season.
01:48:00 His consistency is frightening.
01:48:02 And like I said, this has now started. It has happened at every level he's played.
01:48:06 It's happened for his franchise in IPL. It's happened for the West Indies.
01:48:10 Even though the West Indies were lost in the World Cup qualifiers against the Netherlands.
01:48:14 Look how well he's scored a hundred.
01:48:16 And even in other matches previous to that, Puran has just been brilliant this year.
01:48:20 And that form is just continuing.
01:48:22 Yeah, we've got about 20 seconds remaining in the segment, Brary.
01:48:25 Kyle Mayer's finally getting some form as well.
01:48:28 He got some luck. He might have been given out, but the review said he was pitching outside leg.
01:48:34 I think he needs to settle down. He's just not settled and that's why he's not seen the success of perhaps Puran.
01:48:40 He also needs to set himself some goals.
01:48:42 Get some targets because he came back to get enough as well, but he needs to settle and that's what he's not doing.
01:48:47 All right. Thank you so much, Barry Wilkinson with us.
01:48:50 Correspondent from Barbados.
01:48:52 It's time to head to a Sunshine Moment now and take a look.
01:48:55 Take a look.
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01:49:25 He's actually been to every single one of the women's and the men's matches this season.
01:49:29 Passionately supporting them.
01:49:31 And he still has brilliant interactions with Jason Holder and various others of our players, especially those from Barbados.
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01:50:12 Certainly a moment that deserves a toot.
01:50:14 Sir Garfield Sobers, perhaps the only man more famous than Barry Wilkinson and Barbados.
01:50:18 We take a pause and when we come back, we've got a lot more.
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01:51:24 The excitement. The pride. The celebration.
01:51:34 [Music]
01:51:46 When we come together for sport, we do it like no one else.
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01:52:00 I love when Mommy takes us to JTA.
01:52:02 Everyone here is so friendly.
01:52:04 Mom says JTA has everything we need.
01:52:07 Great quality, plenty of variety, plus the freshest fruits and vegetables.
01:52:12 I get to choose more treats because Mommy says JTA's prices are really good.
01:52:17 Plus, Mom says we get free groceries when she uses her points from her JTA thank you card.
01:52:23 And, when it's time to pay, Mom has the biggest smile.
01:52:27 That's why Mommy prepares the best meals for our family.
01:52:30 Your total bill always costs less at JTA.
01:52:34 Cars, sports, careers, food.
01:52:38 We men always talk about these things, but not about our health.
01:52:42 Did you know that testosterone is responsible for muscle mass, strength, deep voice, healthy hair growth, and a sex drive?
01:52:49 With low testosterone, we may not achieve our potential.
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01:53:42 Well guys, I have that song. It's very exciting.
01:53:45 It's because we've got some winners with us this morning and yesterday on our show, we drew winners for Grand Final in Guyana.
01:53:52 We're going AFA Tickets Accommodation and we've got them here this morning with us.
01:53:57 Steve Mohammed and Tarell Samuel. Good morning guys.
01:54:01 Steve, I'll start with Steve. Steve, you're our winner this morning. How does it feel, man?
01:54:06 Good morning, good morning. Very excited, man. Very, very excited.
01:54:10 Now, you took part in the promotion, you won a trip to Guyana.
01:54:14 Tell me, describe what do you feel and what do you expect when you head across there?
01:54:19 It's unreal because the day before I won, I was talking to my nephew, Owen, and told him that we were planning to go next year.
01:54:27 But it just so happened that next morning, I'm hearing this good news. So I'm very, very excited.
01:54:33 I'm carrying a super fan of ECPL, my wife, with me.
01:54:37 I thought I might have been the passenger.
01:54:41 No, boy. I'll get a divorce if I come back. If I do that.
01:54:46 Well, that's good stuff. Now, you've been looking at the CPL. What is your feeling so far in terms of all the action that took place?
01:54:53 Boy, I am supporting TKR all the way. But after TKR, it has always been Warriors.
01:54:58 I mean, I like how the Royals and so on are battling.
01:55:02 But we support all the teams regardless of who's at bat. But TKR is always the number one support from us.
01:55:10 All right. Thank you so much, Steve. Do enjoy it. And remember, it's curry chicken. All right?
01:55:14 All right. Let's check out this weekend's upcoming matches in the CPL.
01:55:20 And, you know, looking forward to the weekend. It starts on Saturday.
01:55:24 And there we go. The Patriots take on the Kings in the first match.
01:55:28 Remember, it is a triple header. And the Amazon Warriors, a revenge match as they take on the Knight Riders yet again.
01:55:35 Both teams, of course, vying for a place in the final. The Barbados Royals, they're already there.
01:55:39 They're looking for a contender. Let's see who will move forward from there.
01:55:42 And then the Knight Riders take on the Talawans. Oh, yeah. That is a juicy one.
01:55:48 That's all that we've got time for on the Bold and Bold Cricket Show.
01:55:50 We thank you for viewing with us. And we thank you to our winners, Tyrell Samuel and Steve Mohammed.
01:55:55 Got to go. Got to run. I've got to run. All right. Catch you later. Until then.
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