00:00 Many Pinoy Swifties were brokenhearted
00:03 when the Philippines was not included in Taylor Swift's Eras Tour
00:07 But worry no more, because Taylor Swift now has a Pinoy version
00:13 Pinoy Swifties meet Mac Coronel aka Taylor Shish
00:19 His name is now making noise in other countries
00:24 Doc Anna will meet the real person behind the drag performer
00:29 Now on Shareko Lang
00:31 Hello Kapuso!
00:40 I'm Dr. Anna Tuazon and I'm your psychologist on Shareko Lang
00:44 We asked you what you can say about drag performers
00:49 We'll talk about your shenaire with the viral Taylor Swift impersonator and drag performer
00:56 Taylor Shish or Mac Coronel
00:59 Hi Mac!
01:00 Hello!
01:01 Welcome to Shareko Lang!
01:03 Thank you!
01:04 I heard that you are booked and busy
01:09 How is it?
01:11 Actually, it's so overwhelming
01:14 I didn't expect to have a drag career
01:19 Since I just joined the listening party
01:22 Then the organizer randomly approached me to do a surprise performance last year
01:28 That's where it all started
01:30 I'm so happy to feel that someone appreciates and enjoys my work
01:34 Especially Swifties
01:36 Not only Filipinos, you got international attention
01:43 I'm waiting for the moment when Taylor Swift will notice you
01:49 Yes, it's manifesting
01:50 How did you start being Taylor Shish?
01:54 I'm a drag queen performer in Nectar 2017
02:00 We went to Nectar Nightclub with my friends to attend Poison Wednesdays
02:05 Every last Wednesday of the month, there's a drag cartel
02:08 There's a specific theme and we didn't expect lip sync battles
02:14 We went there to have fun and dressed up as Lady Gaga
02:17 Since that's the theme of the event that night
02:20 We didn't expect lip sync battles
02:23 My friend pushed me to join
02:25 That night, I won and the manager asked me to audition
02:30 Since there's a regular show every Friday and Saturday
02:33 Since I'm a fan of Taylor Swift since 2009
02:37 I tried to impersonate her since then
02:41 I was already there as a performer
02:43 So you're an incidental drag queen
02:46 Not intentionally, right?
02:50 You were just there to impress and it turned out you're good
02:54 I didn't see myself as a potential drag queen
03:00 Since I'm a fan of Taylor Swift, I just want to watch and entertain
03:05 I'm so amazed
03:07 I didn't expect to be a drag queen performer
03:10 What's your drag name?
03:12 Actually, my drag name is Mac
03:16 I guess it's just like Taylor Swift
03:21 I just know Taylor Swift
03:24 I just use Taylor Swift when it's a Taylor Swift event
03:28 I'm a drag queen in my next track
03:31 I balance it out, I'm not just a Taylor Swift fan
03:34 I also know myself as a drag queen
03:36 I also performed in other drag race queens
03:39 So the very first time that you put on that transformation
03:43 The makeup, the wig, the lighting in a way
03:46 You saw yourself before you went on stage
03:49 You saw Mac, the drag queen
03:51 What was it like when you saw yourself?
03:55 It was beautiful
03:57 I didn't expect it because I don't have any idea about makeup
04:02 I'm not interested in wigs, women's clothes
04:06 I'm just an AFM boy
04:09 My first drag event was on Pride March
04:14 Someone did my makeup
04:16 After that, I was taught how to do makeup
04:20 My first makeup was a blonde hair
04:25 I was happy because I didn't expect that I can do makeup
04:29 I just tried it because I'm more into arts
04:32 I applied makeup
04:35 And it worked because of my fellow drag queen sisters
04:41 It improved my makeup skills
04:45 A lot of people say that when they put on the persona
04:51 It's a persona, it's an alter ego
04:54 What's the difference between back off stage and back on stage?
05:01 Is it big?
05:02 It's just a little
05:05 Mac out of drag is more of an introvert
05:08 She's not close to people
05:10 But she's very easy to get into and out of drag
05:13 That's the difference
05:15 But when it's Mac in drag
05:18 She's more confident
05:20 Sometimes, she has self-doubt before performing
05:23 There are moments where I think
05:28 What if people get disappointed?
05:30 But it's different when it's drag
05:32 Because sometimes, you can't express what you feel
05:39 You can express it through your performance
05:42 Once it's drag
05:43 I don't have to type anything
05:45 I'm crazy
05:47 But now that you're famous
05:49 You're mentioned in Rolling Stone Magazine
05:52 I'm just waiting for that inevitable moment
05:56 That Taylor Swift meets Taylor Sheesh
05:59 Manifesting
06:02 Is their view on you different?
06:05 Yes, I'm also weird
06:08 Before I perform, when I'm introduced by the hosts
06:13 People are waiting for me
06:16 I'm so pissed
06:17 Am I this viral?
06:19 I just want to perform
06:21 But I'm just weird
06:23 Sometimes, I go out without makeup
06:27 It's overwhelming
06:30 Right now, there's a zeitgeist
06:34 There's Trent and Taylor Sheesh
06:36 You said you're not just Taylor Sheesh
06:39 You're also Mac in and out of drag
06:43 Are you still performing?
06:47 Don't you get a bit of a hold?
06:51 Like, "I want to perform another song"
06:54 I'm glad I have a Nightbar
06:59 I can perform there
07:02 There are 2 sets
07:05 As much as possible
07:07 At least one song is not Taylor Swift
07:09 So I can still know myself as Mac in drag
07:13 I can do more as Taylor Swift
07:16 I don't want to stick to the box
07:19 I want to improve
07:23 I want to show that I can do more
07:28 Very briefly
07:31 Some people think that drag queen is impersonating
07:36 There are trends
07:38 A lot of it started there
07:40 At least in the local drag scene
07:43 Can you clarify?
07:46 It's more than just impersonation
07:49 It's fun
07:51 In drag performance, it's different from impersonation
07:55 For me, in my own words
07:57 Impersonation is like
07:59 You're imitating the move
08:02 Not totally the makeup
08:04 But the costume, the move, the mannerisms
08:06 The choreography, everything
08:08 Unlike in drag performance
08:10 You're performing as yourself
08:13 You're expressing your emotions
08:15 Or what message you want to convey
08:17 Through your performance
08:19 That's how I see drag performance
08:22 What you're fighting for
08:24 Sometimes out of drag
08:26 You want to express your emotions
08:28 You'll express it through your performance
08:30 That's what's fun
08:32 On the surface, on the aesthetic
08:34 You're thinking
08:36 You put on different hair
08:39 You put on different makeup
08:41 You put on a costume
08:43 At the same time, there's a certain aspect of it
08:46 That can be authentic
08:48 Sometimes, it can be more authentic
08:50 What you're expressing
08:52 Because through the donning of that persona
08:56 I can be confident
08:58 I can be proud
09:00 I don't have to be nice
09:02 And be polite
09:04 There's an energy
09:06 That's different from what I have now
09:08 It's strong
09:10 So actually, we asked our listeners
09:13 What's their experience
09:15 Have they experienced drag shows?
09:18 And it's fun
09:20 Because there were a lot of answers
09:22 From contestants from Drag Race Philippines
09:25 And you might know some of them
09:27 I was like, wow, it's like they're themselves
09:30 So for example, Matilda
09:32 She said, "Drag shows are very entertaining
09:36 Especially in the nightclub scene
09:38 Because that's where I first watched
09:40 It's like watching a concert of different celebrities
09:42 In one night
09:44 It's amazing how they transform like that
09:47 Until now, I'm still excited to watch
09:50 Even if I'm a drag queen
09:53 Yes, that's right
09:55 Even if you're a drag queen
09:57 I miss it
09:58 But sometimes, you get to be an audience
10:00 Yes, so Nicole Pardo
10:03 She said, "Yes, yes, I'm excited
10:06 I get excited every time I watch drag shows
10:09 I'm a drag queen but I still get excited
10:11 When there's a drag show
10:13 Because there are different talents of queens
10:16 So support drag queens
10:18 Because it's a different kind of experience
10:20 Fantasy vs. fantasy
10:22 You said, "Drag performances are so diverse"
10:25 Yes, that's right
10:27 So it's not like you've seen one, you've seen them all
10:29 Right? No, right?
10:31 Yes, that's right
10:33 And lastly, Astrid Mercury
10:36 She said, "Before I started doing drag
10:39 I wasn't able to watch any live drag shows at all
10:42 I only watched clips on Sockmed
10:46 Not until 2017
10:48 When I first went to Nectar on a random night
10:51 And there's a drag show
10:53 I watched Golden Gaze for the first time
10:56 I was pretty amazed
10:58 Wow, for a first show, Golden Gaze
11:00 I was so amazed
11:02 It was my first time going to Nectar
11:04 I was there that night
11:06 It was like a tribute for them
11:08 So I was so amazed
11:10 And we're from here
11:12 They're the ones who really took care of us
11:14 So as much as possible
11:16 We're giving them our respect
11:18 A lot of people said that
11:20 "They are entertaining"
11:22 One person said, "They are entertaining and very artistic"
11:26 Another said, "Though I only watch drag shows online
11:30 They're very entertaining and creative with their shows"
11:34 So I think, I really want to say this
11:38 Why?
11:40 Is drag art?
11:42 That's the big question
11:46 For me, it sounds like it is
11:48 In what way is it art?
11:51 Because people feel that traditional art is painting
11:55 Or ballet
11:57 Classical dance
11:59 How would you describe drag as an art form?
12:05 For me, drag is an art form
12:10 Not just because of the painting or drawing
12:14 You express your emotions through your performance
12:19 Sometimes, your style of performance is abstract
12:24 Sometimes, it's interpretative
12:26 Sometimes, it's just a feeling
12:28 Sometimes, it's just emotions
12:30 Even the movements of the clothes
12:32 Sometimes, it's just a connection
12:34 Drag is an aesthetic
12:36 Which is art
12:38 I really feel that people should at least give it a chance
12:42 And watch
12:44 Not just one show
12:46 Because sometimes, people watch once
12:48 And they think, "Oh, that's it! He's the representative of all drag"
12:52 Do you have frustrations about people who are skeptical about drag?
12:58 It's hard because, for example, there are audiences
13:03 Most of the time, there are first-timers
13:07 Especially when there are straight people who go to watch a drag show
13:11 Because most of the time, it's a woman
13:13 And the audience of the drag show is gay
13:18 So, when there are straight people, we're trying to educate them as much as possible
13:24 But if they still don't eat what we said
13:32 We won't make a big deal out of it
13:36 At least, we did our part to educate them
13:39 How to respect, how to eat
13:42 At least, we're helping them to have an idea
13:49 There's only so much you can't control, right?
13:52 You can't control what they'll take
13:56 Yes, in Nectar
13:58 For example, when I'm with a guy and he's asking for tips
14:02 He'll pull my wig
14:05 That's a no-no, right?
14:07 In case he doesn't know you're gay
14:09 You do not touch
14:10 Yes, you need to have a consent
14:12 Yes, or anything
14:14 If you can be held, you can take a picture
14:16 Yes, because you're an artist, you're a performer
14:20 And there are limits, right?
14:23 Yes, that's right
14:24 It's like your fantasy will be destroyed
14:26 If you put in an effort, or if you prepare for one week
14:29 And it will be destroyed because of an audition
14:32 The wig was destroyed
14:34 There are moments like that
14:35 We have different hearts
14:37 Not all of us are necessarily going to go for drugs
14:41 There are unfamiliar, skeptical, and those who don't want to
14:45 That's how it is with art, right?
14:46 Not everyone will like the art form
14:49 One of our hearts said
14:51 No thanks, let's just look for a disentangled show
14:54 Where the audience will learn the right way
14:57 Especially the kids
15:00 I'll follow one of the hearts
15:02 It's not good for young viewers
15:05 So let's talk about it
15:07 The perception that he's not a kid
15:13 He's not helpful
15:15 There are those connotations
15:18 What can you say about those?
15:21 Those kinds of words
15:23 Actually, there are those kinds of words
15:25 We call it a groomer
15:27 Like drug-free performers
15:29 They think that when they perform in front of kids
15:32 Or their children
15:33 They will have the idea of being gay or lesbian
15:37 It's really like that
15:39 Which is really prohibited
15:41 Of course, you have to accept it
15:44 I prefer it to be like that
15:48 So that at least when they're young
15:50 They're open about what drugs are
15:53 What's hard, what shouldn't be afraid of
15:55 There are those kinds of people
15:57 I prefer it to be like that
15:58 But sometimes, I also know the audience
16:01 Who they are
16:02 So that at least they won't be rude
16:05 Like that, I'll treat them like that
16:07 Because sometimes, your audience is different
16:09 When it comes to nightclub
16:11 Especially when there are family gatherings
16:13 Sometimes, there are kids who still don't understand
16:15 About other drugs
16:16 So you have to explain to them
16:18 Through your performance
16:20 That this is what the mom does
16:23 That she's making them laugh
16:25 That's how she performs as a tailor
16:27 So you have to represent that to your brand
16:31 So sometimes, knowing your audience
16:34 Even if it's a different kind of art
16:37 It's not even just drugs
16:39 Any art
16:40 There are some that are child-friendly
16:43 There are some that are provocative
16:45 There are some that are really for adults
16:47 But sometimes, I get sad
16:50 Because I enjoy the drug shows
16:54 Because you said that they're all different
16:56 Not all of them are sexual
16:58 Not all of them are about showing off
17:00 I said that some are really emotional
17:03 Like sentimental ballads
17:06 Some are Disney
17:08 Musicals
17:09 I just get sad that it equates
17:14 Because drugs are not appropriate
17:19 What are the misconceptions
17:21 That we want to clarify?
17:23 Actually, they say that drugs are only for gays
17:28 But most of the time
17:30 Anyone can do drugs
17:32 Even if you're straight
17:34 Trans
17:36 Anyone
17:38 So it's like open-minded
17:40 So Mac, I want to ask you
17:42 Is there something that you want to do?
17:45 Mac in drug
17:47 And Mac out of drug
17:49 Is there something that you wish
17:50 That you could learn from Mac in drug
17:52 That you can do in real life
17:55 Or out of drug?
17:57 Actually, self-esteem
18:00 I'm really self-esteem
18:02 I'm an introvert
18:03 If I don't know people
18:05 I just met them
18:06 Unlike drugs
18:07 I don't know them
18:09 But I know them
18:10 So that's where you have communication
18:13 I'm really shy
18:15 If I don't know someone
18:16 So I hope I can get that in drugs
18:19 So I can apply it to Mac
18:21 Because Mac's social battery is different in drugs
18:24 Compared to out of drugs
18:27 Because I'm mostly close to my friends
18:30 They're the ones I talk to
18:31 My office mates
18:32 But if there are random people
18:34 For example, my friend's best friend
18:37 I don't know her
18:38 It's hard to get to know them
18:40 So let's be as brave as our on-drug personas
18:45 Right?
18:46 Let's learn from them
18:48 Thank you so much, Taylor Sheesh and Mac Q
18:52 Thank you, bye!
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