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In an insightful live interview on Benzinga Cannabis Insider, president and CIO of Verano Holdings VRNOF, Darren Weiss and Aaron Miles, unpacked the strategies propelling the robust growth demonstrated in its Q3 earnings report.

Hosted by Elliot Lane and Patricio Liddle, the conversation navigated towards the implications of these financial milestones for investors and stakeholders in the cannabis industry.

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00:00 [MUSIC]
00:10 Welcome in, we are here for a special edition of Benzinga's Cannabis Insider.
00:20 If you are not a normal viewer of this show, we touch on all things business,
00:24 all things launch, all things new markets when it comes to the cannabis space and
00:29 we're gonna let you know what's interesting to invest in,
00:32 what's interesting to keep an eye on in this industry.
00:36 We are in the midst of Q3 earnings season and
00:38 I am joined by a special new Benzinga writer,
00:41 extraordinary when it comes to our editorial team, Patricio Little.
00:46 Welcome in, brother, how do you feel, your first time on an interview with us?
00:50 >> Now with this presentation, I feel most prepared for this interview.
00:54 Thank you very much, very happy to be here.
00:56 >> Yeah, we're excited for it.
00:58 We are gonna be introducing the Verano gentlemen here shortly,
01:03 the CIO Aaron Miles and their president, Darren Weiss.
01:07 We're gonna be talking to them about their stellar performance in Q3.
01:12 It's been a good one for the MSOs,
01:14 multi-state operators if you're not familiar in the cannabis industry.
01:17 [MUSIC]
01:23 Always special guest, gentlemen, Aaron, Darren, welcome in, how you doing today?
01:27 >> Hey, Elliot, how you doing, Patricio?
01:29 Thanks for having us.
01:30 >> Yeah, we're doing good, Patricio, honored to be your first interview here.
01:34 This is great.
01:35 >> Yeah.
01:36 >> Hopefully first of many.
01:37 >> First of many.
01:39 >> It's always great to see you, you know that.
01:41 >> Yeah, look at that setup, y'all.
01:43 If you're listening on a podcast later on, you are missing out on a stellar media
01:48 room that Verano has incorporated now, looking good.
01:52 Now, gentlemen, you're looking good, you also gotta be feeling good.
01:56 You had a good report, you had a good Q3, right?
02:00 What sticks out to you?
02:01 Just give us a quick recap.
02:02 >> Yeah, you know what, I'll start it.
02:04 I mean, I think the results speak for themselves and
02:07 that's how we've always operated, right?
02:08 Like put up or shut up and kinda let your performance really show the market what
02:13 you're capable of, but 240 million on the top line, 3% sequential growth.
02:18 89 million on adjusted EBITDA, 37% margins on that.
02:24 Pushing our free cash flow through three months up to 51 million,
02:29 really led us to tighten and raise our free cash flow guidance from 65 to
02:35 75 million to 72 to 76 million, which is literally tops in the space.
02:42 And it's all built on the foundation of a lot of what Darren has worked on from
02:47 ops and building out our structure to really how efficiently we run the business.
02:53 But more importantly, and we made a couple big moves.
02:56 In one of them, we started trading subsequent to the close of the quarter,
03:01 was on the CBO, right?
03:02 And so you start to see moves that we're making as a company,
03:05 which is starting to align with the US capital markets.
03:08 And so when we went public in the CBO, and I know we've touched on this,
03:11 which is a really strong move into a senior market.
03:15 But there's a component to this where we have to adhere to stricter and
03:18 more stringent reporting requirements.
03:20 So you saw us make a massive move in really setting the stage and
03:24 the standard for the industry on disclosure and transparency.
03:28 So we've released state level revenue, and we set it on the call.
03:32 We wanna continue to be a leader in that space and
03:35 continue to push for more and more disclosure.
03:38 As we know that there's money sitting on the sidelines and
03:41 people who are evaluating the opportunity.
03:43 So we wanna make sure that we're opening the doors,
03:45 showing people what we're capable of and
03:47 reporting it in the most transparent way that we can.
03:50 >> Yeah, and I'll just piggyback on what Aaron said.
03:54 And just to reference the fact that we don't manage the business quarter to
03:59 quarter, obviously we're obviously pleased with the results.
04:04 And looking forward to continuing not only to be a leader in the space with
04:08 respect to free cash flow generation and profitability.
04:13 But really we're focusing on disruption and innovation.
04:16 And I am so proud of what the team has accomplished.
04:19 And I think being able to report like this quarter over quarter,
04:23 we're beginning to share with the public some of what we've been doing.
04:27 For those of you who are joining on video, you can see,
04:30 Elliot as you mentioned, we've built out this little studio.
04:34 And one of the reasons is to highlight some of the new products that we've
04:38 brought to market.
04:40 I would say about 80% of the products you'll see behind me and
04:43 on the table in front of me did not exist a year ago.
04:46 We've launched over 100 new SKUs.
04:49 We now carry 14 brands.
04:51 These are products and packs that are innovative, that are art forward,
04:55 that are cannabis culture centric.
04:58 And it's been an incredible, incredible growth opportunity for us.
05:02 It's now a substantial part of our business.
05:05 And we're only getting started.
05:08 This has been hugely exciting for us.
05:12 And the other thing that I'll mention just in terms of thinking through how this
05:17 quarter plays into our strategic plan in addition to, as Aaron described,
05:22 our decision to start really providing some more visibility into the business as
05:27 it relates to state specific data, we're also talking about volumes.
05:32 And despite the fact that we're seeing modest but
05:36 respectable growth quarter over quarter, in terms of the top line,
05:41 we're seeing margin expansion.
05:43 So we had quite a nice bit of margin this quarter in addition to,
05:48 of course, our free cash flow, but also unit growth.
05:54 And so we're selling more product than we ever have.
05:57 We're reaching more customers than we ever have.
06:00 And we see demand continuing to grow, which is hugely exciting for us.
06:05 And I think speaks volumes about, again, the brand and product work and
06:09 innovation and disruption that we've been able to accomplish.
06:11 So really, really excited about where we are and
06:14 even more excited about where we're going.
06:16 >> And one thing I should highlight as well, when we talk free cash flow,
06:20 there's different ways to get there.
06:22 And we're getting there in the most solid way that you can,
06:25 where it's not us deferring taxes to get down to the free cash flow guidance range
06:29 that we put out there.
06:30 And we've made $115 million of tax payments through three quarters.
06:34 So we're appropriately managing our balance sheet as well.
06:37 And that's something I definitely want to highlight is that when we're out there and
06:40 we're talking about margins and we're talking about free cash flow,
06:42 we want everyone to make sure that they understand fully that
06:45 we're managing through our balance sheet as appropriately as we can as well.
06:49 >> Do you find that, and I'm sorry to hop in, Pato, you can go right after this.
06:52 But do you find that that is a common issue or
06:56 question that you get from investors is,
06:59 do they just not believe some of the numbers you're putting out?
07:03 >> They're definitely outlying numbers in this space.
07:07 And we've talked really from inception that we're building the business for
07:12 the here and now, right?
07:13 And never with assumptions off of any type of moves at the federal level or
07:17 needing any type of assistance, because if you do that, you're going to fail.
07:20 And so for us, having built the business that way, we've been able to leverage,
07:26 getting to the point we're at off of cash flow generation, not using sale leasebacks.
07:31 And one of the ways, and we're careful to talk about this publicly, but
07:35 we had deferred taxes, it was a lower source of capital in comparison to where
07:40 we could have borrowed money at, but we're not continuing to defer.
07:44 We were obviously managing through what we need to from an obligation perspective.
07:49 But yeah, I think it is definitely an outlier in the space
07:52 with being able to put up that type of free cash flow.
07:55 >> I actually have a question that, I mean, I saw the company has
08:00 managed to lower its capital expenditures significantly.
08:04 So what has been the strategy behind this?
08:08 And then will this trend continue in the future?
08:10 >> Yeah, it's a great question, because I think you continue to see
08:16 some of the peers investing pretty substantially in CapEx,
08:20 according to the numbers that are reported.
08:22 For us, we've spent a lot of money over the years building out a footprint that
08:26 really meets the needs of the business and the consumers and patients that we have.
08:33 And so the decrease in CapEx really is less about cutting back on projects and
08:39 more about just being very happy with the footprint we have and
08:43 the efficiencies that we can get out of what we've put into the dirt.
08:48 And so as it relates to the go forward,
08:52 we are opening new stores across the markets, Florida, Connecticut, New Jersey.
08:59 We are relocating and refreshing some of our retail experiences.
09:06 But for the most part, we really are quite happy with what we have.
09:09 We're going to continue to drive efficiencies by getting more
09:14 in terms of units and efficiencies out of our current facilities.
09:21 But we are not looking at this as
09:25 a project to throw additional capacity into these markets.
09:32 It's just really not necessary given where we are today and
09:35 where we see the markets going.
09:36 Obviously, to the extent you've got Florida adult use coming on,
09:40 Pennsylvania adult use, for example,
09:43 there might be opportunities to really optimize capacity.
09:47 But given where supplies are right now, we're just very happy with what we've got
09:51 and are going to continue to grow with what we have, yeah.
09:54 >> Yeah, and I'll say this as well is we built our cash up 27 million in the quarter
09:59 to 130, so you can start to see us really build a war chest.
10:03 And the way that we look at spending capital is through the lens of cost of debt or
10:09 a return or what are you going to look at it from an M&A perspective.
10:13 So we have a lot of flexibility.
10:14 And one of the luxuries we have to Darren's point, and
10:17 I want to really make sure that we hammer this point home is,
10:20 we didn't pull back because we needed to for cash generation.
10:22 We pulled back because we don't want to sit on a cultivation build out for
10:26 two years waiting for adult use to turn on.
10:28 So we have had a history of staying a step ahead of market growth.
10:32 I mean, you look at Illinois adult use turn on, we were ready.
10:35 New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland, we're now going to be ready in Ohio, right?
10:39 PA, Florida, our footprints are built out everywhere we need to.
10:43 We can appropriately supply every market that we operate in.
10:46 So when we look at our cash balance, it's like, okay, do you pay taxes down?
10:50 Do you pay debt down?
10:51 Do you go out and execute on M&A?
10:52 Do you invest in CapEx?
10:54 So we have these conversations on a daily basis and
10:58 building the cash up to the level that we have right now gives us a lot of flexibility.
11:01 >> I have a few follow ups to you guys on this.
11:04 You're taking it right where I want to go to.
11:06 In terms of your state performance, I mean,
11:09 it looks like you are steering into your strengths.
11:12 I know you're vertically integrated.
11:14 I know you want to grow every part of your business, right?
11:17 But I mean, you look at Connecticut, you call it your wholesale revenue growth.
11:22 You look at Arizona, you call it retail.
11:25 You look at New Jersey, you're the number one brand.
11:29 You look at Maryland, you're 7%, which is top five in the state market share.
11:34 It just seems like you are able to be flexible from market to market.
11:39 Is that something that you all feel comfortable with or is it just, is it happen?
11:45 I'm curious, is there an active strategy that differs state by state?
11:50 >> Yeah, it's a really good question.
11:52 What's interesting about our company, certainly as compared to some others
12:01 within the industry, but also outside of the industry, is that we think of ourselves
12:06 sort of as continually trying to walk and chew gum at the same time.
12:12 We have to be able to be a top producer of product,
12:18 and by the way, a variety of different products, and
12:21 a top retailer in every single market.
12:24 And frankly, in some markets, our products resonate more than in others, and
12:28 in some, our retail resonates more than in others.
12:31 But the truth is, we are aiming to be top in both categories,
12:34 in both lines of business, in every single state.
12:37 And in those states where you see wholesale softness but
12:42 strong retail penetration, we are constantly looking for
12:46 ways to improve on the wholesale side.
12:50 In other words, we don't look at those numbers as maybe you are and think, okay,
12:54 well, Arizona is a strong retail state, so
12:56 we're just going to focus on the retail strategy.
12:59 For us, it's really in all of the above.
13:01 We really live and breathe the mantra of continuous improvement.
13:05 We are always looking at the various KPIs, both internally and
13:09 market-wide, to find opportunities to either increase market share,
13:14 increase market penetration, increase brand performance, etc.
13:18 And so, of course, you're going to have an opportunity to see this play out
13:23 in real time as we are disclosing now on a regular basis the state-level data.
13:28 That's part of one of the reasons that we did this.
13:31 We want to give the analyst investor community the opportunity to really
13:34 understand where our strengths and opportunities are.
13:38 And like I said, we're just excited at the opportunity to really build out all sides
13:43 of the business.
13:44 And you look at the state-by-state disclosure, right?
13:47 It shows the breadth and the diversity of our portfolio, right?
13:52 Like we're not a two-state operator, we're not a single-state operator.
13:56 There's a lot of runway in the states that we operate in, and I think that's one of
13:59 the biggest things we wanted to highlight is that there is diversification across
14:02 the board, right?
14:03 And you're seeing, obviously, Illinois, New Jersey, Florida play a massive
14:06 component and role in our portfolio, but you're seeing other states that have
14:10 a lot of ability to grow, and even those states have the ability to grow.
14:14 So that's what we wanted to get out there.
14:15 We want people to see the diversification, really, of our portfolio and kind of what
14:21 we're capable of in those states.
14:23 - You know, it really seems like the industry should send a love letter
14:25 to Maryland.
14:26 It's just I see it in every earnings report headline, "GTI, y'all,
14:32 ascend wellness."
14:34 I mean, it just seems like our tourism should go to Maryland for a few months
14:38 just to say thanks.
14:39 - Darren loves it so much he lives there.
14:41 - I will say Maryland is my home state, actually.
14:43 - There we go.
14:44 - I'm a big fan.
14:46 Yeah, look, it's been great.
14:48 It's a definite shot in the arm at the time where there's just difficult market
14:53 dynamics in the rest of the country.
14:55 Like I said, demand is up everywhere.
14:57 People still want the product.
14:59 They're using the product.
15:01 The issue has just been, you know, it's harder and harder in an environment where
15:06 you've got inflationary pressures, where you've got consumer goods costing more.
15:11 You know, cannabis is oftentimes, or at least not necessarily in terms of the
15:15 category, but in terms of the value spectrum, it's an opportunity for folks to
15:20 spend disposable income.
15:21 And if they have less disposable income, they're going to, you know,
15:25 naturally go to products lower down on the value spectrum.
15:28 And that's okay, by the way.
15:31 We don't have a problem with that.
15:32 We've had tremendous success with our value-tier products, with our savvy brands
15:36 and brand extensions.
15:38 We intend to continue to do that.
15:40 You know, we are not sort of holding our noses and suggesting that, you know,
15:45 the consumer be damned in that respect.
15:46 We want to be able to meet the consumer where they are.
15:49 We want to be able to have a variety of products at various price points,
15:53 but, you know, consistent quality across the spectrum.
15:56 And so, you know, Maryland has been great.
16:00 Ohio is hopefully right on the cusp of doing the same.
16:06 We're excited about Pennsylvania turning on, hopefully, given legislative
16:10 developments over the next year, year and a half.
16:14 And, of course, as you probably know, yesterday, there were oral arguments based
16:18 on the ballot initiative in Florida, which, you know, seemed to have gone
16:22 decently well if you spent the hour or so listening to them.
16:25 And we're hopeful that we'll be able to get some movement in Florida too,
16:29 which will, of course, be monumental for both the industry and our business.
16:33 - You know, I know you all don't live in stock price.
16:35 You can't in this industry.
16:37 As you said prior to this interview, the rationale is just not there.
16:42 But looking at the chart, we'll just, we'll stick with the last week.
16:46 The sentiment's there, you know, from Q3 earnings.
16:50 I think people are showing that they're happy, you know, with you, with MSOS,
16:56 you know, with other stocks in the space.
16:58 And I'm just curious as to what you all are hearing and listening to.
17:03 I know a lot of this is fully dependent on any type of federal movement, you know,
17:07 the two occurrences that we're waiting on right now.
17:09 Do you see improved investor sentiment?
17:11 Do you see people waiting on the sidelines, the conversations that you're having
17:14 with investors post-earnings report?
17:17 I mean, it seems like market sentiment is in your favor.
17:20 - Yeah.
17:22 I mean, I'll start and let Darren, you know, chime in here.
17:25 But, you know, there's the saying that hard work pays off, right?
17:28 And sometimes it can take a tremendous amount of time for that work,
17:32 hard work to pay off.
17:33 And, you know, we've said this, and this isn't what you're assuming here,
17:37 but like, you know, we don't run our business based off dislocations in the market.
17:40 And if you're running your business based off, you know, shooting towards a specific
17:43 stock price, you're just not going to do it in the appropriate way.
17:45 But if you're building the business the way that we're building it,
17:48 and it's starting to resonate in the numbers, and it's starting to really gain
17:52 some momentum, there might be an opportunity, even without federal moves,
17:56 for us to just get so large that, you know, new investors have to pay attention to it.
18:00 Like you talk about Florida, I mean, that could be a standalone business for us alone.
18:04 So I think the sentiment is, you see Ascend come out with strong numbers,
18:08 GTIS, you know, I mean, you're seeing a consistency in the cadence of how we're
18:15 approaching the earnings cycles, right?
18:17 Because there is a, you know, kind of a formula you have to follow.
18:23 I mean, there's certain things analysts are looking for and investors are looking for.
18:26 So we can have that consistency of earnings.
18:28 And now you have the transparency of numbers that starts to take down a layer of resistance
18:34 into investing in the space.
18:35 So, you know, the sentiment, the sentiment's never not been there.
18:39 It's just been when people want to engage.
18:41 And I think you're starting to see more and more people want to engage.
18:45 I think people are really looking at what the bigger picture is going to look like if
18:48 HHS recommendation, you know, gets the stamp of approval from the DEA.
18:53 And then, you know, you see what Schedule 3 could look like from a business.
18:56 But the cream rises to the top.
18:58 And I think people are really starting to see how they want to adjust their portfolios.
19:03 Our conversations have been very productive and you are starting to see some new names
19:06 pop in.
19:07 But again, still early stages.
19:09 And that's kind of part of why we wanted to disclose more information.
19:13 Like I know from my prior world where, you know, you could look into trends and you could,
19:18 you know, see how institutions make decisions.
19:20 You know, it can take two, three years for a buy side shop to really make a decision
19:24 on whether or not to pull the trigger.
19:26 And so quarter after quarter, we want to continually make their lives easier because we know we're
19:30 all auditioning for new dollars coming in.
19:32 Yeah.
19:33 I'll just add maybe some context if I can.
19:36 You know, obviously, I'll say August 29th, if we can go back to August 29th this summer,
19:42 there was a tremendous amount of mopiness in the industry.
19:49 You know, nothing internal, though.
19:50 We were all happy every day.
19:56 People were, you know, for very understandable reasons, just very frustrated with the pace
20:00 of progress.
20:01 August 30th, of course, was the day or maybe it was the 31st.
20:05 I think it was the 30th when HHS came out with the recommendation.
20:10 Talk about a shot in the arm, right?
20:11 This was really welcome news for the business, for the industry, really got the ball rolling
20:19 from a momentum perspective.
20:23 And I would say in at least part that excitement has maintained, but it hasn't maintained at
20:32 the same volume.
20:34 And it's unfortunate because I think people and by people, I'm talking about retail investors,
20:39 have very, very short memories in the space and are so reactionary with respect to items
20:47 that may or may not occur or, you know, will have impacts far into the future.
20:53 What I think is so telling, though, from a sentiment perspective, is not the pace or
20:59 the movements in, you know, the halls of Congress or through the executive branch.
21:06 But what I think is so telling is the demand and the demand story and also the public sentiment.
21:13 So for example, you know, as you know, Ohio voted earlier this week, about 57% of the
21:19 state decided to approve adult use in the state.
21:23 But if you dig into those numbers, you know, the 18 to 24 year olds voted 89% in favor
21:29 of adult use.
21:30 And then the 25 to I think 45 year olds or 35 year olds were at 65 plus percent in favor.
21:37 And the reason that's so important from a sentiment perspective to me is that the demographics
21:43 are entirely within our favor.
21:47 We hear all the time on Capitol Hill that the opposition to cannabis is less about partisan
21:52 politics and it's more about demographics.
21:56 And as we know, the old people tend to retire or pass away and the new generation tends
22:02 to take up the helm.
22:05 And we're going to see that.
22:06 And so what that means is, regardless of these little, you know, changes and ups and downs
22:11 that we see over the short term, the arc of sort of cannabis liberalization, the arc of
22:16 this industry is long, but it's moving in the right direction and it will continue to
22:21 move in the right direction.
22:23 And so our goal is to, of course, you know, stay positive.
22:27 And we generally are, as Aaron said, to stay positive, to continue growing, to continue
22:32 executing, to maintain profitability, because we know that the future is certainly brighter
22:38 than it is today.
22:40 And you know, I say this frequently, but I think it is so true.
22:45 Looking back at this 30, 40 years from now, we'll look at today as really just the very,
22:51 very beginning.
22:54 We are only just scratching the surface.
22:56 You know, as a famous man once said, it's not the beginning, it's the end of the beginning,
23:05 the beginning of the end, whatever it is.
23:06 Don't look at me.
23:07 I totally screwed that one up.
23:08 In any case, it's not the beginning of the beginning, it's the end of the beginning,
23:13 whatever.
23:14 The beginning of the end.
23:15 It's not the beginning of the end, it's the end of the beginning.
23:17 There you go.
23:18 Yeah.
23:19 All right.
23:20 So, you know, that I think is super important.
23:25 It's something from a sentiment perspective that we as an industry have to do a better
23:28 job of communicating.
23:29 But I think the message is resonating.
23:31 As Aaron said, we're beginning to talk to some new people.
23:34 There's some new interest folks really doing their research.
23:37 And you know, the future is bright.
23:39 And I'll say this too, and this will be quick, is it shows you how retail driven our investor
23:44 base is, right?
23:45 Like, when you think about this, nothing's happened to HHS, the HHS recommendation.
23:49 It's still there and it's still extremely viable.
23:52 But like, it's almost like the excitement has worn off.
23:54 And now we need something else to pop up to keep the excitement going.
23:57 In Ohio, like the excitement around Ohio is going to, and it just shows these ups and
24:00 downs.
24:01 If these were long-term institutional investors, they'd be salivating right now to say, "Okay,
24:05 Ohio is now turning wreck.
24:08 You have PA looming, you have Florida looming, you have basically bigger things at the federal
24:13 level.
24:14 Let's start loading up, looking at what this looks like two to three years from now."
24:17 But it shows the short time horizon that these investors look at.
24:22 But it also shows you the massive opportunity of what institutional dollars coming in could
24:27 actually mean for this space.
24:28 So again, we continue to hammer the points in the story, but you know, I mean, exciting
24:34 times.
24:35 I mean, it just feels different and it's hard to explain it, but our company, the industry,
24:40 the sentiment, the conversation, everything just feels different right now in a positive
24:44 way.
24:45 I have just one quick question before we wrap up.
24:49 I mean, it's really interesting hearing your insights about the market right now in this
24:54 like legalization times going faster.
24:58 I just want to go back quickly to the numbers and to the earnings report because you mentioned
25:03 savvy threats and Verano has introduced non-plantation initiatives like savvy threats.
25:08 I wanted to ask you how significant are these ventures to Verano's overall business model?
25:14 Yeah, if you're talking about revenue contribution, it's very minor.
25:18 This was a, we did this as a small pilot program, really had not spent much time marketing the
25:27 program or publicizing it to begin with.
25:32 It was sort of a proof of concept.
25:34 We don't candidly expect this to be a major, major revenue contributor to the business.
25:41 That being said, it is an ancillary benefit in lots of other ways.
25:47 It's an opportunity to build and maintain brand goodwill.
25:50 It's an opportunity to really connect with the cannabis community.
25:55 It's an opportunity to deliver authenticity as it relates to our brands and products.
26:00 So that's really our goal through the savvy threads project.
26:04 Look, we hope that it takes off and that we've got a real clothing brand that we can leverage
26:11 as a contributor to the business.
26:13 That really wasn't the aim to begin with, but I will say that I think the stuff that
26:20 we're producing is really, really cool.
26:23 It's unique.
26:24 It's stuff that I can't wear because I'm just not cool enough to pull it off.
26:29 I think you are.
26:31 It's all been designed by our in-house artists, material selected, artwork hand-drawn.
26:39 It is cool, cool stuff.
26:41 It's also representative of the brand direction.
26:44 I don't know if you can see some of these items here, the strain-specific artwork that
26:50 we've done, some of which ends up on clothing as well.
26:55 I would say I would not expect it to become a major revenue contributor, certainly in
27:02 the near term, but we are very excited about the program.
27:07 It does look amazing.
27:08 I'm not going to lie.
27:09 We got to talk to your CMO about it on Thursday and go into it last Thursday, of course.
27:15 It was phenomenally cool.
27:18 All that said, gents, we do have to wrap up, but what a great conversation.
27:21 Thank you for the insights into your earnings, your phenomenal quarter.
27:24 Looking forward to doing this again for the full year.
27:28 We're already to the end of 2023.
27:29 It's amazing.
27:30 Yeah.
27:31 Already planning for Thanksgiving.
27:32 It blows my mind.
27:33 It's incredible.
27:34 Sometimes when you're having fun, right?
27:37 Exactly.
27:38 Especially when you live in a state that helps us all out there.
27:40 Thank you for that.
27:41 It's all Darren.
27:42 He's just easy.
27:43 He's your 7%.
27:44 With that said, gents, thank you so much for being here.
27:49 We'll talk to you again soon.
27:51 It's been great to catch up with you these last couple of weeks.
27:53 Appreciate your time.
27:54 guys. Thank you so much.

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