00:00 I was very aware that we essentially had two different things we were trying to balance.
00:05 The risk of going too early, in which case you get all the damages from this with actually
00:11 fairly minimal impact on the epidemic, and the risk of going too late, in which case
00:16 you get all the problems of the pandemic running away. Now, as we will, I'm sure, come on to,
00:21 my view is, with the benefit of hindsight, we went a bit too late on the first wave,
00:25 and I've been very clear about that for some time. We can come on to the reasons for that.
00:32 But the idea that there was not some tension between those two and that you could somehow
00:36 go without cost earlier than was needed, I think, was incorrect. And again, everyone
00:44 around the SAGE table would have agreed with that position. The degree of waiting – I'm
00:49 talking here in terms of putting wait rather than wait as in time – between those two
00:55 inevitably varied a bit between people, and I was probably further towards let's think
01:00 through the disadvantages here before we act, and also in making sure that in giving my
01:05 advice that ministers were aware of both sides of the equation.
