00:00 I started this conversation with the intention of talking about something else.
00:07 But let me come to you.
00:09 If this election happens, and two big parties are accusing that there is no level playing field.
00:13 The Delegation is saying that we are not allowed to hold a conference.
00:16 And the People's Party is repeating this accusation every day.
00:20 How long will this system last?
00:22 Because when the last government was formed in 2018, the situation was more or less the same.
00:27 The seats of the Muslim League were not at the same level.
00:34 But it was a similar election.
00:36 In which the system was made, the punishment was given, and the government was managed.
00:42 Four years, three and a half years, the government was running.
00:46 What do you see this time?
00:48 Look, this time is a little different.
00:51 Last time, there was one Jamaat.
00:53 Small Jamaats were joined with it.
00:57 It could be the wish of the establishment or someone else.
00:59 They kept accusing for three to four years.
01:01 The PDM, People's Party, all of them.
01:03 But the issue there was that within three and a half years, they could not create a single public movement.
01:09 They had complete freedom.
01:11 They used to bring a long march here.
01:13 They used to bring a long march with a mulana here.
01:15 There was an inflation march here.
01:17 You tell me, how many FIRs were filed when Bilawal's inflation march came?
01:20 How many FIRs were filed when Maryam Bibi's inflation march came?
01:23 How many press conferences were held that night?
01:25 So, their bad luck was there.
01:27 When the time came for the government to leave, then there was no need for a long march.
01:30 You tell me, how did that happen?
01:32 I am saying that at that time, they had complete freedom.
01:35 But the issue with them was that they could not get public support.
01:39 They could not gather that public momentum.
01:42 This time, all these Jamaats will be on that side.
01:44 But there is a large group of people against them who have resentment.
01:48 Why do they have resentment?
01:50 First, there is the inflation that is being done by Sulema.
01:53 After that, you have completely stopped the political action.
01:56 What election?
01:58 You did not allow elections to take place in two days.
02:00 Today, Bilawal sir is criticizing.
02:02 How long will this go on?
02:03 It will not go on.
02:04 It will not go on for long.
02:05 It is possible that it will go on for five years.
02:07 Staying there and going on, there are two different things.
02:09 You will make them stay for five years.
02:11 How will you make them go on?
02:12 This is a different issue.
02:13 The system has gone on before.
02:15 It went on.
02:16 The example that you are giving,
02:18 you can kill them and give them a good beating.
02:20 You cannot say six months or a year.
02:23 All the political parties had the same treatment.
02:25 What was the momentum?
02:26 The public support was so high that the one who had the majority
02:31 could not do anything when the inflation came.
02:33 Because he had become zero from the public.
02:35 Today, he has become the hero of the public.
02:37 He has become it despite everything.
02:39 He has not become it on his own capability.
02:41 He has made inflation.
02:42 He has brought the American cipher to this point.
02:47 This is the nature of our nation.
02:48 He has not told us about the 3.5 years of inflation.
02:51 He has not told us about the 9.5 years of inflation.
02:53 He will not tell us about the 16 months of inflation.
02:54 Let's be fair.
02:55 I am saying that he has got 16 months.
02:57 He has become the reason for his popularity.
03:00 He has been telling us about this for 16 months.
03:02 My question is that there is no complete freedom.
03:05 Where will there be a rush on polling day on 8th February?
03:09 You cannot do this.
03:10 You can blame the Dhanli for this.
03:12 You cannot vote and then vote.
03:14 You have done everything.
03:16 If there are people present in the camps,
03:19 then you and I can do this.
03:21 Because the campaign has not started yet.
03:23 You are talking about Mr. Bilawal.
03:25 But Mr. Bilawal is doing the Jalsa every day.
03:26 He does not have a level playing field.
03:28 I agree that the vote has been cast.
03:33 But the perception is bigger than the reality.
03:36 If you do not let a party campaign
03:38 and do not let a ticket holder participate,
03:41 then you think that this will be settled.
03:44 You are right.
03:46 The real thing is that when these people did not accept,
03:49 PMLN, People's Party, won, Punjab also won,
03:53 they were not allowed to form a government.
03:55 They did not move forward.
03:56 The real thing was that if Musdar,
03:58 Mehmood Khan and Imran Khan had delivered,
04:00 everyone would have forgotten.
04:01 Now that's true.
04:02 If they had done a little in 16 months,
04:04 then they would not have remembered Imran Khan.
04:06 The real issue is that what will the coming government decide?
04:09 Where will it stand in people in six months, a year?
04:12 It will tell whether the government will run or not.
04:14 Will the system be formed or not?
04:16 Rauf sir, same question.
04:18 Once, Mr. Jadhul Haq said that there will be one or two elections.
04:21 Are you asking about running or which one?
04:24 Running.
04:25 How?
04:26 Would it be easy?
04:27 Because in the last five years,
04:28 we have seen that the system has been completed for five years.
04:31 Despite the fact that there are such allegations.
04:34 My view, if Nawaz League wants to complete the system for five years,
04:38 then I think that instead of Nawaz Sharif,
04:40 Shabaz Sharif would be the best choice for them.
04:42 They took the parties and ran for 16 months.
04:44 It was not an easy task to run for the government of Iqbal Moti.
04:48 They ran.
04:49 Their relationship with the media was not that bad.
04:51 You should note that.
04:52 Although we criticized, we did it openly.
04:53 Everyone did it.
04:54 They did not even get fired from the courts.
04:56 This is my opinion, although I am with them.
04:58 They got fired from the court.
04:59 I think they called for one when they did that.
05:02 I asked four questions on that.
05:04 They also banned it.
05:05 They did not call for 16 months.
05:07 It was their decision.
05:08 You should correct your actions.
05:09 You should correct your actions.
05:11 We both need to correct ourselves.
05:14 Anyway, coming to the point.
05:16 I still say that despite this,
05:18 they do not have a social media team like Shabaz Sharif.
05:21 They do not have a team who questions the opponents daily.
05:24 They do not have a team who abuses, abuses, abuses,
05:26 and trends the social media.
05:28 They start abusing, which is the PTI's.
05:29 And then we saw Mariam Nawaz's social media.
05:32 They did things like this.
05:33 This was on their credit.
05:35 They lived in Punjab.
05:36 They did not have a social media team.
05:38 We never had to face harassment.
05:40 If you give a scandal or a story,
05:41 the next day you will be exposed.
05:43 Or you will get a phone call.
05:45 Never.
05:46 Secondly, their army is better than the Taliban.
05:49 Their army is better than China, Saudi Arabia.
05:51 Their courts are better than the Taliban.
05:53 The last one was okay, but they got fired.
05:55 But they managed to get out.
05:57 The main thing for me was a bit of selfishness.
06:02 We were not under the pressure of the media.
06:05 There is a pressure that comes.
06:07 You feel it in Nawaz Sharif's time.
06:10 That these are the people who keep them up.
06:12 Sir, they will boycott us.
06:14 Sir, now you fix your behavior.
06:17 (Laughter)
06:19 Fix your behavior.
06:21 We also want to do democracy.
06:24 If Nawaz Sharif's party wants,
06:26 and I say Nawaz Sharif has become the prime minister three times.
06:29 What more can you do?
06:31 I remember the film Dalal.
06:33 Sanjay Dutt and Arshad Warsi's movie.
06:36 Munna Bhai.
06:37 MBBS Part 2.
06:39 Both of them have been to jail.
06:41 Arshad Warsi says, "Let's kick him out."
06:43 What more can you do?
06:44 He is already in jail.
06:45 What more can you do?
06:46 I am asking Mr. Mian.
06:48 You have become the prime minister three times.
06:50 Your party needs a leader who does not get fired.
06:54 And you will be good.
06:56 You will be absolutely good.
06:58 I remember the film Welcome by Naina Patkar.
07:02 Uday Bhai is very good.
07:04 But your situation is such.
07:07 And you are already getting predictions about yourself.
07:11 12 months, 18 months, 16 months.
07:13 You think about it.
07:15 And bring a person from your party who will lead everyone.
07:19 You are talking about protests, fights, etc.
07:24 That's my opinion.
07:25 You want to make Shabaz Sharif the PM.
07:27 Let me say something.
07:29 When the protests happened in 2014,
07:32 all of them were his opponents.
07:34 People's Party, Fazlur Rahman.
07:36 He supported all of them.
07:37 He supported them while keeping them in opposition.
07:39 The opponents were the establishment.
07:41 He sent them.
07:42 No political party sent them.
07:44 Is it still necessary that
07:46 they made Shahid Khan the PM once and Shabaz Sharif once?
07:50 Is it still necessary that he becomes the PM after the election results?
07:53 Mariam Nawaz is still there.
07:56 Mariam Nawaz is still there.
07:58 Sir, one second.
07:59 The one who was put on a break.
08:01 Why won't she be?
08:09 Tell me this.
08:10 They are asking.
08:11 It is written on their faces that they don't want to become the PM.
08:13 They will fight the Subahi Assembly.
08:15 They can fight the Pindi Assembly.
08:16 In the competition with Sheikh Rashid.
08:18 You tell me.
08:19 So you are saying that Mariam Nawaz is the candidate for the Chief Minister and the Prime Minister.
08:22 This decision will be made only by Nawaz Sharif.
08:24 There is no one to speak in his house.
