00:00And J.D. Vance has faced some tough questions about past comments he's made about women in particular.
00:07Do you think that her VP pick is going to have the same media experience as him,
00:13or they've learned lessons from the Republicans' somewhat sloppy rollout of their vice presidential nominee?
00:20Yeah, I mean, Democrats certainly hope that this person doesn't have the same rollout as J.D. Vance.
00:25I mean, Rocky would be a kind way to describe that.
00:28The thing I didn't understand with Vance, and why I always thought that Doug Burgum, the governor of North Dakota, was a better pick for Trump,
00:34is that, look, Vance got elected to the Senate in 2022, but he was a public figure for a very long time before that,
00:40largely due to his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy.
00:42So he had given zillions of interviews and gone on podcasts.
00:47As someone who talks a lot for a living, you too, there's a lot of stuff out there.
00:56People can say to me, like, when you worked for the Washington Post in 2014, you said this.
01:00I'm like, man, that was like a decade ago, but OK.
01:03So that's the same problem that J.D. Vance has in some ways.
01:06There's just a lot of stuff of him talking, and he is sort of a provocateur, or at least he was sort of a provocateur, you know, a cultural critic.
01:15So he was sort of playing that role, but that is not the role that you want as a VP.
01:21And I think that's why that rollout has been rocky.
