00:00The information is from the last moment and it takes us to the Morona area, there is Gabriel Prosper and because there are two robberies to the same person, one in the house and the other in the shop.
00:10Bobby, give me some details before going to the cell phone.
00:12Yes, first a true odyssey, a calvary, what they lived in the private home, a whole family, she with her very small creature, the criminals get into her.
00:21And already in itself that was a nightmare, she pregnant, well, a tremendous disorder what they had to live.
00:26And then when they thought that the thing was over, 15 days passed and they also appeared in their family business.
00:31Now, one of two, either they have you on point or it's a curse, but stop, give me a respite.
00:37A sign of the times.
00:38They rob you in the house, they rob you in the business.
00:40Do you remember that a while ago we had also seen it with a butcher, who first was robbed in the house and then realized that they were the same who went to look for money in his business.
00:47A sign of the times.
00:48Yes.
00:49Gaby Prosper and tell me more.
00:52Well, we are in the butchery, just described Bobby.
00:57First, on August 20, they went to the house of the family owner of this butchery.
01:05A woman, a young woman, 8 months pregnant, they entered the house by force, they kicked her, they hit her, they threw her to the floor.
01:15They didn't care about anything.
01:17And they asked her, give us the money from the butchery, give us the money from the butchery.
01:22Desperate, this pregnant woman, I reiterate, 8 months, with her daughter of a year and a half up in the house, with the criminals inside, taking her hostage.
01:32She gave him what she had and at that moment they fled.
01:36The absolute shock of these people.
01:40They identified a T1 as the vehicle in which the criminals arrived at this house.
01:46The security cameras detected that vehicle.
01:49A few days later, in this butchery, in that corner, the same T1, the same criminals get out and enter here.
02:01It means that they continued two weeks with the car crying in its power and nobody found them and went to look for them.
02:10Nobody.
02:11That's what worries this family still today.
02:15Maxi, Fidel, Maxi had a revolver in his head.
02:20Three criminals entered, Maxi?
02:22How are you, good morning.
02:23Yes, on Friday at approximately 5.30 p.m. three armed criminals entered, mobilizing in the white T1,
02:31where we had already suffered a previous robbery in the house of the owners of the butchery.
02:35They entered approximately at 5.30 p.m.
02:39Show me, can we enter?
02:41We go with Maxi, Rolando, Bobby, because they had him with a revolver.
02:47They used it as a human shield.
02:49They wanted to go to the office.
02:51They knew everything that was inside.
02:54That's why they pointed to him and took him to the office.
02:59Where did they take you, Maxi?
03:00Well, at that time we were all obviously paying attention to the public.
03:03We have the main entrance, where we just entered.
03:06They enter from the left hand, all hooded, one hooded, covering his face.
03:13And they take us directly to the bottom.
03:15At that time there were some employees, some clients who were also hostages of robbery.
03:21There were also clients.
03:22Exactly.
03:23At that time they break, this is the first door where the first one enters.
03:26Breaking this door, forcing this door that forced it inside.
03:30And the door opens directly out.
03:33You have all the videos.
03:35It's all recorded, we have absolutely everything.
03:39What happens...
03:41Gaby, I don't know if you can hear me.
03:59Sure, that's the problem, Bobby Rolando.
04:01I hear you, tell me.
04:02No, one thing to unite the two facts.
04:06The same truck, Tiguan, steals in a house and then goes to steal in the grocery store.
04:11One can say, well, some of what they found in the house allowed them to do intelligence in the grocery store.
04:17But the truth is that the precision with which they go is something else.
04:21I mean, it's not something that you find a piece of paper.
04:23The guys go clearly when they get to the grocery store, where the guide can be.
04:27I mean, there was something else there.
04:30How did they know how to move inside the grocery store?
04:34Of course, they had information, obviously.
04:36They even knew, perhaps, the amount of money they had here.
04:39They really knew all the movements.
04:41They knew all the movements.
04:42Already from the first robbery, where the owners have the income in their house, they already knew the movements.
04:46They knew who they were looking for, what they were looking for.
04:48We, just on Friday at 5.30 in the afternoon, we had a lot of money.
04:54They took, I'm going to tell you the figure they took, they took 11 million pesos in cash.
04:58In which we had that money, the payment of a supplier, precisely, that we had to do on Friday.
05:03And there were also the salaries of the employees, you see, that we paid on Friday.
05:08So they handled it with a lot of information.
05:11They knew everything they were doing.
05:13Approximately, from the moment they entered until they left, they knew every step they were taking.
05:17Maxi, do you have children?
05:18I have two children, I have two children.
05:19I have an 11-year-old girl, an 8-year-old boy.
05:21What happens to your head when a gun points at you?
05:24At that moment, millions of things cross your mind.
05:27And it gives you a lot of trouble that they handle with so much freedom, with so much impunity, that no one does absolutely nothing.
05:32I repeat, my daughter called me crying that night, worried about what had happened.
05:37And she is afraid, and we already live with fear.
05:39I repeat, we live in a situation in which a patrol car did not approach.
05:43We are in the middle of Morón.
05:44No one from the municipality approached, no one from the police approached.
05:47We had absolutely no help from anyone.
05:49We are in a liberated area.
05:52Roló, this is the situation we live in.
05:54This is the situation we live in, because we are meters away, those who know the area, we are meters away from what is the Morón cemetery.
06:02Here is an ultra-transit area, and there is a security camera, I think there should be two or three per block, more or less, right?
06:10Yes, as I tell you, we are providing everything, our own cameras, we are doing the work that should be done.
06:18We have all the cameras, we have all the cameras of everything that happened.
06:22We are giving you the images of the criminals, of everything that happened, and no one approached, they asked for absolutely nothing.
06:27That is the problem that we really have and manage.
06:30Okay, they took 11 million pesos in cash, they left like a patio around their house, no one says anything, they do not generate an operation.
06:37We are with the taxes per day.
06:40We pay taxes to greet people, so to speak, because it is impressive, we pay more and more taxes.
06:45And when we need the state, no one appears.
06:48This is what this family lived, which is still in shock.
06:52No, I don't want to lose sight, let's also rescue what poor Max and all his co-workers lived with a gun to their heads.
06:58The previous chapter, because when they come in to steal in the house, it was a calvary.
07:03What they lived, they took advantage of a work that was a bricklayer working, they were sent strongly armed.
07:09Already there, as you pointed out, they asked for the help of the bricklayer, but they also threw the mother to the floor, they threw the sister to the floor.
07:17The girl who was pregnant, they pointed a gun at her belly, a very advanced pregnancy.
07:23And also when they discovered that there was also another baby in the house, they threatened to take it away.
07:28So it was tremendous what the boys lived here, workers in the bricklayer.
07:33But also the previous chapter of what this family lived.
07:37Fidel, come, come. Fidel is the brother-in-law of the brother, he is the father of the little girl of a year and a half.
07:46He is waiting for his family. How is your sister-in-law?
07:49Look, the reality is that this morning she also had to make a note that they are interviewing her.
07:55Today, as I explained to you today, the fear she has cannot even leave the corner.
07:59Imagine, pregnant for 8 months, is about to have now in days.
08:02They hit her, they tied her up, they didn't even have a little bit of pedaling.
08:07He asked them, please, I have a girl of a year and a half sleeping, they didn't care.
08:11They knew it was the woman, they went directly to look for her.
08:14She was with the sister and she was with the mother in the house.
08:17The mother and the sister went on to be persecuted.
08:20Come here, you are the woman, give me the money. I don't have a peso, look.
08:23They had all the information of who each one was.
08:25Exactly, the same also when they came here, the same people.
08:28Now, do you know what bothers me so much?
08:31It's 11 million pesos, it's the money of the providers, the money of the weekly payment of the employees.
08:38The same people who came in 10 days ago, today they come in again.
08:42And there are cameras, as you say, everywhere.
08:44Per block, I think there are three cameras.
08:46The police don't know anything.
08:48You go and ask them, listen to me.
08:50The Tijuana case, it's not even identified yet.
08:53They didn't tell you that they know where she is, they arrested her, they kidnapped her, no.
08:58Absolutely nothing, they have no idea what the Tijuana case is.
09:01You ask them and they don't know.
09:03Nothing, but nothing.
09:05They don't give you an answer of anything.
09:07Since Friday, they didn't show up.
09:09And this is the danger, Rolando.
09:11This is the danger, that these people keep going around.
09:14One thing they don't give you an answer because they are investigating.
09:16But these two episodes, let's see.
09:18The most feasible thing is that they have fallen into two different prosecutions.
09:21That a prosecutor investigates on one side, that this one investigates on the other.
09:24Someone should have a little criterion, unify the facts, study the same gang, I don't know.
09:30I say, it's not just the responsibility of the police.
09:32We criticize them and when they do things wrong, we give them the reason when they do things right.
09:37As I was just telling you, when they arrested a person who committed a crime.
09:41A police officer.
09:45They arrested him at the moment.
09:47Okay, but here is a gang.
09:49So, this has to be investigated in another way.
09:52It has to be investigated in another way, a little more interested.
09:55And there is also the contempt for the victim.
09:57Because, let's say they don't find them.
09:59Why don't they give them information?
10:01I mean, there are a lot of laws of defense of the victims that have been made.
10:06I say, well, a little respect for the victim.
10:08That they raped him at home.
10:10They stole him at home.
10:11They put guns in his head.
10:13And they don't give them any information about what's going on.
10:15Even if it's to calm their anxiety and their concern.
10:18Because if they stole him twice, they can steal him a third time or threaten him.
10:21So, they need someone to give them information.
10:24Well, that they are investigating.
10:26Or that someone is trying not to repeat this.
10:32An answer for a family.
10:34For a person.
10:35For a woman.
10:36A mother.
10:37Who in 20 days is going to have a family.
10:40How can that woman, that young woman, that mother.
10:44Have a family.
10:45In a medially normal circumstance.
10:47With everything that is happening to her.
10:49With everything that happened to her.
10:50And knowing that the jets are still free.
10:53We have to give her an answer.
