00:00Why foggy?
00:03It's something that we lost a lot of sleep over
00:07Nobody wanted to do it
00:09But I think we all came to the same realization that it had to happen
00:13It's daredevil born again, you know, we have to bring Matt down to his bare essence
00:20But it's done in a different way than the Frank Miller comic book in the wake of foggy's death came and say it
00:28you
00:30You see his whole life shattered
00:32The thing that's really wild about that is I is when I came in late to the process that was already in the story
00:38But it had happened off-screen and the reaction says it all and I was like it can't be off-screen
00:44We have to feel this and you know
00:46There's a promise written on a napkin at the end of season 3 and we see that promise in the beginning of this and we
00:51Take a hammer to it and it's it's harsh and it hurts
00:54But it is also not done lightly because that loss
00:58Colors everything that goes on with Matt from here on out and I mean a version of it happened in the books
01:03But it was Karen and I mean like no
01:06So it was one of those things that it's very very tough to do, but I think ultimately it was inevitable
01:13It's part of the character
01:15It's part of the story and in in the daredevil world as fans
01:19Every loss has a new beginning every every time he hits the ground he gets back up and that we have to watch that
01:25Yeah, and if you think about the old show like so much this was the fear
01:29This was this is always the fear in Matt Murdock's life
01:32And I think there's so much story to tell when the fear comes to life relationship friendship
01:38Whatever it is with Karen gets just broken with a sledgehammer
01:42the law office closes
01:44But you find Matt a year later
01:48Trying I think to approximate what foggy wanted for him
01:55Which is actually a really beautiful thing
01:58the you know and and and and Kirsten McDuffie and also Heather Glenn kind of
02:04Exists to support that new world. He's created for himself
02:09The unfortunate thing is that that world is a lie
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