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- Ashfaq ishaq Satti
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:12Peace be upon you, dear viewers.
00:13I am here with you, Ashfaq Isaak Satti.
00:14I hope you all are doing well.
00:15The enemy has once again made a cowardly attack.
00:16And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:17Because after the answer given by the Pakistan Army, the enemy did not have the courage to
00:18attack again.
00:19And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:20And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:21And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:22And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:23And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:24And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:25And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:27And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:28And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:29And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:30And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:31And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:32And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:33And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:34And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:35And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:36And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:37And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:38And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:39And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:40And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:41And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:42And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:43And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:44And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:45And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:46And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:47And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:48And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:49And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:50And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:51And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:52And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:53And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:54And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
00:55And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:16And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:41And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:42And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:43And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:44And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
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01:48And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:49And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:50And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:51And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:52And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:53And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:54And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:55And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:56And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:57And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:58And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
01:59And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
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02:04And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:05And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:06And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
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02:10And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:11And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:12And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:13And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
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02:36And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:37And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:38And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:39And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:40And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:41And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
02:42And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
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05:32And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
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05:34And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
05:35And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
05:36And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
05:58And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
05:59And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:00And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:01And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:02And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:03And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:04And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:05And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:06And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:07And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:08And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:09And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:10And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:11And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:12And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:13And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:14And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:15And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:16And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:17And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:18And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:19And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:20And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:21And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:22And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:23And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:24And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:25And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:26And this time, innocent children were the target of the enemy.
06:41It is all Shireen.
06:42And today, the situation is that it depends on whom they are depending on.
06:45Ehsan-ul-Ehsan, the old translation of TTP.
06:49Who is he pleading to?
06:50To go to Kabul and use the people of the Aburi government.
06:55Reach them.
06:56And the pilots of Israel and the support that he has asked for.
07:00So all, blood and domination.
07:03And he had to increase it.
07:07Then the interference in Pakistan, you have also shown Kulbhushan.
07:12So this is a new, Kulbhushan is one of the characters.
07:15From Sarjeet Singh to Kulbhushan.
07:17And from Kashmir Singh to Ravindra Kaushik, you will see.
07:24So India has been selling with us before, is still selling and is interfering.
07:28And then Doval, the application of MAD.
07:30MAD, Modi, Amit Shah, Doval.
07:33This MAD application of India on Pakistan will now increase.
07:38Anyway, having said that.
07:39Enhance this term a little and involve R in it.
07:42Yes, R, Rajnath Singh.
07:45I mean, they are preparing their series.
07:49The best butcher will be caught by the office.
07:53But having said this, no big issue.
07:55We will treat this too.
07:56I will refer you to the speech of the Chief of Army Staff at the convention.
08:02When he was talking to the overseas.
08:04So whatever he claimed about India.
08:09That happened, yes.
08:10That happened.
08:10That happened.
08:11He also made another claim in it.
08:13And he spoke about those people, those Khawarij, who are challenging Pakistan.
08:18They will also be treated in the same way.
08:20Okay.
08:21Mr. Daniyal, this is very reasonable.
08:24All this happened.
08:25What is the thought of the government at the moment?
08:27One is to expose them through the embassy.
08:31And the second way is to take action against them.
08:33These two ways will be adopted together.
08:38In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
08:39Thank you for having me on the show.
08:41Look, it is very unfortunate that when you meet such an enemy.
08:46Who attacks your children after failure.
08:50Who attacks your families.
08:54Who attacks your trains.
08:58And who kills those children.
09:01And celebrates that we have killed their children.
09:05This is very unfortunate.
09:07And it is very important for the world to hear this story.
09:11That is why the committee that the Prime Minister has constituted.
09:14It is done so that the world is told.
09:17That if today in Pakistan.
09:19If in this region.
09:21If there is a country that is most affected by terrorism.
09:25Then it is Pakistan.
09:27If we look at the recent history after Ghaza.
09:30In which so many people have been martyred.
09:31Then it is our country.
09:33Our children were martyred in this.
09:34Our youth were martyred in this.
09:36Our political leaders were martyred in this.
09:38The economy of our country was destroyed.
09:41Hundreds of billions were lost here.
09:44And who has been behind it?
09:46Who has been supporting these people?
09:48Who has been harnessing and sheltering these people?
09:51Who has been looking after these people.
09:53And providing them with weapons.
09:55Providing them with finance.
10:25And the world needs to stand up against it.
10:47This needs to stop.
10:50And the world needs to realize.
11:01That they need to stand up and voice for Pakistan.
11:04What we have bled for almost two decades now.
11:07And it is high time that we cannot do this anymore.
11:11And if you want stability in this region.
11:14If you want stability in the world order.
11:17And you want the new order, Might is Right.
11:20That shouldn't apply.
11:21Then the world needs to know.
11:23That the true terrorism.
11:25Or true terrorist in this region.
11:27Needs to be given a shut up.
11:29Dr. Maria.
11:30I would like to know from you.
11:32That as of now.
11:34There is a ceasefire between India and Pakistan.
11:37And there has not been a permanent ceasefire.
11:39So does India want to harass Pakistan?
11:43Does India want to use proxies.
11:46So that Pakistan can start a ceasefire.
11:50Or can we fall at their level.
11:53So that we can target civilians.
11:55Innocent children and women.
11:57What is the mindset right now?
11:59Within India.
12:01What can be the mindset?
12:03First of all, I think.
12:05Today's situation is not that bad.
12:07Indeed.
12:08Because your enemy couldn't have tried.
12:11Any worse than this.
12:13That you killed innocent children.
12:15And like this.
12:17After saying this.
12:19I think three things are very important.
12:21When we talk about India and Pakistan.
12:23The first thing is.
12:25Terrorism is not just a mentality.
12:28It's a tactics of war.
12:30It's a style of war.
12:32When they say that we are not accepting the ceasefire.
12:35And the war is still going on.
12:37If you look at India's different embassies.
12:42In Portugal and other places.
12:44They say that the war is still going on.
12:46So it means that the style of war.
12:48They have taken for your country.
12:50It is terrorism right now.
12:52We need to understand this.
12:54Because there are three motivations for terrorism.
12:57First, you create fear and harassment.
12:59Second, you create fear and harassment among ordinary people.
13:03That you don't have any reservations.
13:05We can attack anyone we want.
13:07And the way you use the car.
13:10You also use ordinary people.
13:12Terrorists.
13:14You also exploit them.
13:16And our war in this terrorism.
13:18We have seen that all three armies of India have used it.
13:21Now the difference is.
13:23The style of war of terrorism.
13:25Before 9-11.
13:27It was understood as a style of war.
13:29It was understood that these are proxies.
13:31On which there is no accountability.
13:33After 2001.
13:35The very clear change that has come.
13:38That is.
13:39UN Security Council Resolution 1267.
13:43And 1373.
13:45All those countries.
13:46In terrorism.
13:48Whether they support them financially.
13:50They support it through the media.
13:52You can use force against them.
13:55And the use of force against them is.
13:57Not only can you impose sanctions against them.
13:59But you can also use military or military force against them.
14:02Okay.
14:03In addition to this.
14:05You can restrict them.
14:07For all these things.
14:08In which they are involved.
14:10The story you have with Pakistan.
14:12You talked about Ashin Yadav.
14:14Mark Park.
14:15We have another incident.
14:16In addition to this.
14:17For a long time in Pakistan.
14:19Not only they have been terrorizing.
14:21But if you have seen one thing.
14:23There was a ceasefire.
14:25There was a meeting of DGMO.
14:27Immediately after that.
14:28Indian media.
14:29Times India.
14:30You have seen.
14:31If you see.
14:32After that.
14:33They did BLA.
14:34And Jaffar Express.
14:35Videos.
14:36They started releasing.
14:37Yes.
14:38Guess.
14:39This means.
14:40This means.
14:41That you not only had their access.
14:42In fact.
14:43You were its preparators.
14:44The first thing.
14:45The second thing is.
14:46If you are doing this work.
14:47This means.
14:48Against them.
14:49We.
14:50First of all.
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19:13If we use the soil of Afghanistan, it is not going to stay limited to Pakistan, it will go to China and Central Asia, in fact it has already gone to Central Asia because Washington is the main competitor in this region.
19:28The withdrawal from Afghanistan, which President Trump himself said was the most shameful withdrawal, and NATO was withdrawing from Afghanistan, no military group or rebels were leaving weapons there worth 7 billion dollars.
19:45So now America has to prove that it was not deliberately done.
19:50And then President Trump put it on Biden, the purpose of saying is that we have to collaborate with Americans also to address this issue, which they believe that we have left this issue.
20:01And China, Pakistan, Central Asian countries, collectively, I have seen the situation in RATS, which is an anti-terrorism organization in the SCO.
20:11There is only one country in the middle of it, which is a scuttler on its agenda, every time it removes an insect from it, that is India.
20:18Why? Because this is their lead instrument of policy.
20:21Like Maria Sultana was saying that this hybrid application is being done because its center of gravity is plausible deniability, that I am not doing it, this is the internal situation of Pakistan.
20:31But having said all this, Mr. Ashfaq, there are some elements in Pakistan that are the assets of India, which were mentioned in this plan.
20:44The war that they have started, their plan was also that our assets inside Balochistan will be activated.
20:53It was a little late because the way the military embarrassment has happened after the fall of Rafale, it has never happened in the history of warfare.
21:00Never so soon, such a big military, 13 lakhs big army, such a big air force, such a big force, you have embarrassed.
21:08So their assets are there, now they have the same assets and have claimed them, they have come to you with captive documents.
21:14These assets of Ra are present, they have activated them.
21:17My point is that their supporters, abators, the assets that are present here, they are present on the land of Afghanistan, they use it and come here.
21:26In phase one, Pakistan should go behind them, the way it has been claimed.
21:32Then I will refer the Chief's speech in which he has claimed that we will go behind them and they are going.
21:38Today the Prime Minister and the Army Chief being in Balochistan is a symbol and a big sign to understand that what is going to happen.
21:48Mr. Daniyal, please explain that there is a government thought but there should be a method in that as well.
21:54One thing is that the way America was going from there, Dr. Maria said that more than 1 trillion of money was taken out from there and everything was there.
22:06But I am saying that these guidelines, basically, you see the guidelines of these guidelines, because of them there is a financial aid,
22:15because of which they continue terrorist activities in Pakistan.
22:19So, there is a need for the government to focus on this as well that those sources should be shut down.
22:25What is being thought for that? What is being done?
22:28Look, if we look at the first thing, then our enemy here, especially if we are talking about India,
22:37has been harvesting this thing for a long time and the money related to drugs, it infiltrates in this region and in this belt.
22:47It infiltrates again and again in different shapes and sizes.
22:51And not only that, look, they have a very big, the terrorism that they are doing to these people,
22:58where are these highly equipped weapons coming from?
23:03Who is supplying them drones? Who is supplying them American gadgets?
23:08Who is supplying them brand new bullets?
23:12Who is supplying them? They are being supplied by their handlers and financers.
23:17And that handler and financer is India and India will always be India and they are doing the same thing again and again.
23:22We can't give them finance to kill our own children.
23:26We can't give them guns to kill our own children.
23:29Can a father or a mother give them guns to kill their children?
23:33So, who is left behind? It is India who has been doing this and wants instability,
23:39not only in Pakistan and its region. And if you look at their daily routine,
23:45if you look at their neighbours, they are doing the same thing.
23:50They have a committee with every country, they poke every country, they point fingers at every country.
23:57Because this is what is the mindset of Modi government and regime.
24:01So, as we said earlier, this will have to stop.
24:07And how will it be stopped? That we give strong and firm response.
24:12We are not as cowardly as our enemies to attack their homes, their children, their families.
24:19But that doesn't mean that we won't respond now.
24:23There will be a reaction to every action and there will be a response to every reaction.
24:28And they should be ready for whatever they have been harvesting in this region
24:32and whatever they have harvested in Pakistan.
24:36Our army is standing with the determination to defend the internal and external borders of Pakistan.
24:43Inshallah.
24:44And until it can finish these enemies, it will not take a breath of peace.
24:51And we will send them back to where they came from.
24:55Dr. Maria, please tell us that Avinash Paul had written in his book that
25:01from 2003 to 2018, there were at least four operations.
25:07Let's talk about the earlier ones, which were RAW's funded operations.
25:11They were doing it under his supervision and the operation was named Sandstorm.
25:16What is this story basically?
25:18And if this is the case, then it can also be used as a dozier that
25:24the people inside the country are saying how to maintain the involvement of India.
25:29See, what you are saying is absolutely correct.
25:32The thing is that whatever declaration there is,
25:34until you don't use international frameworks, those frameworks are not used.
25:38Like I said, after 2001, now you have a global counter-terrorism framework.
25:44You have never used it in a developing country.
25:47So far, only developed countries have used it in different regions for their national security needs.
25:53Sometimes to ban you, sometimes to do something else.
25:56But one thing is very clear.
25:59Pakistan is the only country that has successfully carried out counter-terrorism operations.
26:03In which you have the Swat operation, in which you have the Ziristan operations,
26:08in which you have the FATA merger, in which you have seen.
26:12But we have to think a lot about it and prepare its response.
26:18First of all, we have to change things in Balochistan.
26:22Whether we like it or not, we need to change some facts.
26:26First of all, you have to convert your B areas into A areas and for that you have to legislate.
26:32If you don't legislate, the state's involvement will not reach there as it should.
26:39You can do politics on some things.
26:41Some things are such that the water reaches your head.
26:45And at this time, the war of terrorism in India has become a big obstacle for you.
26:51So first of all, you have to protect your people.
26:54For that, you have to give them legal protection, legal protection and make some national decisions for it.
27:00And you cannot do politics in this.
27:02You have to change it administratively.
27:04Secondly, you have to make mechanisms for people's misgivings.
27:13And you have to work expediently.
27:15Thirdly, you can never succeed in counter-terrorism
27:20until you improve political decisions and political compliance.
27:24You have to make that decision as well.
27:26When you have made these decisions, and you will do it soon,
27:30soon after that, you will have to make some kinetic decisions.
27:34In those kinetic decisions, you have to include not only the facilitiers,
27:37but also all those who think that Pakistan cannot reach them.
27:44Whether it is Afghanistan, whether it is Israel, whether it is India.
27:48See, whoever will train these terrorist organizations against you in your neighborhood,
27:57they have not kept a different model.
27:59They are using the same model of Muktibandh for brass.
28:02If they are using this model, and you have Indian Army people facilitating them,
28:08then you can take all these things to the international level.
28:11You can also do kinetic operations against them.
28:13And last, but I think India has forgotten one thing,
28:17that Balochistan is a very big part of Pakistan.
28:20The love of the people of Balochistan for Pakistan is also very much.
28:24But they should not ask that just a week ago,
28:28Zaganar, which China has said in the morning,
28:33it is not only for Arunachal Pradesh,
28:35it is for all seven states, which will become a living reality for them.
28:39So if they want to liberate Pakistan,
28:42if they want to divide Pakistan,
28:44then they should think that something can also be reversed.
28:47We will not do it, their own people will do it.
28:49Because here the army of Pakistan is not working against its own people.
28:53But there the army of India is working against them.
28:57They bombed Madhya Pradesh.
28:59This is also in front of you.
29:01So all these things are obvious.
29:03India should also think about this.
29:05Pakistan should also respond to this.
29:07Let's take a break here.
29:08We will be back after the break.
29:12Viewers, after the break,
29:13once again your guest is in the program.
29:15Mr. Jain, please tell us,
29:17what can be done for the Areas and B Areas mentioned by Dr. Maria?
29:22Number two, what do you think are the problems of governance,
29:29which can be controlled,
29:31so that the people who are approached,
29:34especially these proxies, BLA, BLF or whoever else,
29:38go to Indian EMA and do it,
29:40how can they be brought into the national arena,
29:44who are not involved in any such activities right now,
29:48but their brainwashing is going on, what should be done?
29:51You have asked a very good question, Mr. Ashfaq.
29:54Look, the terrorism related issues of Pakistan,
29:57look at it in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as well as in Balochistan.
30:01We have done operations,
30:03we have gone to remote areas,
30:05we have gone to such places where the state could not reach.
30:08You say that we are not at fault,
30:10or the state has done a lot.
30:12And even if the state has done something,
30:14the system was as such,
30:16I don't want to go into that debate,
30:18that its fruits have not reached people yet.
30:22I personally think that a major reason for terrorism and extremism,
30:29plus the breeding ground that becomes the environment there,
30:32from which it is very easy to pick people,
30:35or people's subversion activities are taking place,
30:39that is because of bad governance.
30:42Let's confess that poor governance,
30:44I will give you a small example.
30:46In Balochistan, when the province was formed in 1971-72,
30:49one of the initial administrative orders was to expel 2500 school teachers
30:53from Punjab and other parts of Pakistan,
30:55they should leave Balochistan.
30:57That was the reason.
30:59Then out of the 17, 14 chief ministers were appointed,
31:03and the rest were appointed by the government.
31:06So, there was a lot of confusion.
31:08So, there was a lot of confusion.
31:10So, there was a lot of confusion.
31:13So, out of the 17, 14 chief ministers were appointed,
31:16there were issues.
31:18Now, the commoners are putting a little pressure on themselves.
31:21Then the social movements that have started there,
31:24now they have been converted.
31:26Now, there are some issues, they are not genuine,
31:28they start for its grievances,
31:30but later on these have been hijacked.
31:32Now these social disruptive movements have been formed,
31:35and their taunts have also been found there.
31:37Look, there are accumulative mistakes.
31:39Especially in Balochistan,
31:41especially in the regions of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
31:44especially in the regions of Fatah,
31:46the state could not reach there.
31:48Look, there are no industries there,
31:50there are issues on the borders.
31:52We are talking about the illegal spectrum right now.
31:54But the same thing is,
31:55when the state will not reach completely,
31:57then issues will be seen somewhere,
31:59they will hold someone's hand.
32:01So, the government...
32:02Now, I will give you another small example.
32:04Around 83,000 levis are enrolled in Balochistan.
32:08I remember you told me that 60% of them are not there.
32:1160% are ghosts,
32:13they are not on the ground, where are they?
32:15And they are the first respondents,
32:17they are the first layer of defense.
32:19The military comes later.
32:21Now, in some places,
32:23the buses that were hijacked,
32:25were stopped in the middle and killed people.
32:27There was a place where there were two posts
32:29within 500 ghaz,
32:31where the levis were supposed to be there.
32:33But they weren't.
32:34They killed the people,
32:37I am not critiquing anyone.
32:39We need to fix these things.
32:41We need to fix this.
32:43What is hard state?
32:45What is hard state?
32:47Hard state doesn't mean that you just
32:49pick up guns and start killing people,
32:53or behind terrorists.
32:55That is one part, military application.
32:57The rest is that,
32:58now we have lawfare,
32:59now there is a case of missing person.
33:02See, 2, 3, 4, 5 percent may be there,
33:05but most of them are misusing it.
33:07But missing persons,
33:08when our legal framework is so strong,
33:11that you bring them to the courts,
33:13get them executed,
33:15get them bailed out,
33:18you can't even interrogate them.
33:20Okay, this is evolving.
33:21Now, look at the number of incidents.
33:23In 2024,
33:25there were about 4,000 terrorist acts.
33:28Now, tell me,
33:29where are the legal things,
33:31how much will you engage them under the rules?
33:36So, the point is that,
33:38we have to fix our legal system,
33:41our political dispensation,
33:43political processes,
33:44polarization,
33:45we have to end it.
33:46Now, unfortunately,
33:47there is another trend in Balochistan.
33:49The people who reach assemblies,
33:50they say that the system is okay, fine.
33:52Those who lose elections even once,
33:54they say that our elections are okay.
33:56Let me ask this question from Daniyal sir.
33:58Daniyal sir, this is very important.
34:00We often see that,
34:01where the forces also operated,
34:03there was a complaint from there,
34:05that the civilian set-up could not fill that space,
34:08and then there was space there.
34:10This is a very serious issue in Balochistan.
34:12One is that,
34:13what do you think,
34:14how can the issues of governance be addressed?
34:17And the second issue is,
34:18the non-functioning of the local body system.
34:21That is, it is also called the nursery of democracy.
34:23And secondly,
34:24in the case of street neighborhoods,
34:26Balochistan obviously has scattered areas,
34:28but their reach is there,
34:30so that they can solve their problems there,
34:32or listen to their grievances.
34:34What is the government doing on this?
34:39Look, as far as Balochistan is concerned,
34:41we are completely deprived of them,
34:44the government and the entire country feels for it.
34:49And our steps,
34:51and Pakistan's multiple steps,
34:53testify to this,
34:55that we have tried multiple ways,
34:57but we are still trying to fix things.
34:59But we need to do more.
35:00Look, one thing I say again and again,
35:02that no province can blame Wafaaq for its incompetence.
35:06True.
35:07Or can't blame Pakistan.
35:09The Nawabs or leaders who have been there in the past,
35:12they have been from their province.
35:15Their chief ministers did not come from Punjab.
35:17Their ministers did not come from Punjab.
35:19Their ministers were not from any other part of Pakistan.
35:22Their people,
35:23who have been doing developmental work,
35:26they did not come from any other province.
35:28When their own people have been doing corruption of crores of rupees,
35:32after the 18th amendment,
35:34when they talk about devolution of power,
35:37when they talk about autonomy of the provinces,
35:39those electables who have taken those money,
35:42or who have used that money for their own purposes,
35:45in America, in France, to build palaces,
35:49they should be held accountable.
35:51Those people should be held accountable.
35:53There is one more thing, Mr. Daniyal.
35:55In this, Wafaaq's government can at least oversight.
35:58They can see that these people have come to power.
36:01And you know from them,
36:03when there is a conflict,
36:05they take advantage of it.
36:07So, when there is such a situation,
36:09when they are not delivering people,
36:11then at least Wafaaq can play its role.
36:13I am not criticizing,
36:14but I am just suggesting that this should happen.
36:18Look, start with Mr. Jamali's government,
36:21which was the representative of his province,
36:23and go to the Chief Minister of today.
36:25Look at Dr. Malik's time,
36:27or look at someone else's.
36:29Whenever we had a government in the province,
36:32we tried to make their representative
36:34one of their own people.
36:37We left the leaders of our community behind
36:40and put the public leaders ahead.
36:43And we expect in the future,
36:45that those who have their own mistakes,
36:48they will correct them themselves.
36:51And where there are no mistakes of the governments,
36:54where there are mistakes of Pakistan,
36:56we will correct them.
36:58But I have repeatedly said that
37:00the issues of Balochistan,
37:02as we have put it in a plan,
37:04that you have not delivered the relief of fuel adjustment
37:07to the people,
37:09rather than N25,
37:11and the other work,
37:13the development blocks of infrastructure,
37:15and the whole road of infrastructure
37:17to be built in Balochistan,
37:19which has a project of 300 billion,
37:21we have initiated it.
37:23It is one of the biggest projects.
37:25And we will do it to others as well.
37:27We want happiness to come to the people there,
37:30and to solve the issues of the people there.
37:33But one thing to understand is that
37:35there is a lot of money of non-state actors.
37:38There is a lot of infiltration of non-state actors.
37:41And against Pakistan,
37:43they are doing it through propaganda,
37:45and they are doing it again and again.
37:47And in this 5th generation warfare,
37:49we are addressing all those things,
37:51and we are solving them as well.
37:53Let me take the answer from Dr. Maria.
37:55In the coming years we find,
37:57we will take these things to the betterment.
37:59Yes, yes. Dr. Maria,
38:01tell me one more aspect.
38:03We want to extend CPEC
38:05to Afghanistan.
38:07But we have had many complaints from Afghanistan.
38:09Recently, during the war,
38:11it was reported that
38:13the Deputy Interior Minister of Taliban
38:15was killed during the war in India.
38:18Now, this is a close relationship.
38:20We can also see the seriousness of the matter.
38:22How serious is it?
38:24How can we deal with that issue?
38:26The issue with Afghanistan.
38:29You have asked a very important question.
38:31Look, behind all this,
38:33there are three things
38:35that we have to do at the national level.
38:37When we say that you are facing hybrid warfare,
38:39what does it mean?
38:41It means that you are fighting a multi-domain war.
38:43And if you are fighting a multi-domain war,
38:45then it means that your enemy
38:47will lose in one domain very quickly
38:49and will go to another domain.
38:51Today, one thing is certain.
38:53In the beginning of this program,
38:55you said that at this time,
38:57in Balochistan,
38:59the issue of Balochistan is not the only issue.
39:01You are dealing directly with India
39:03and dealing with the enemies of Pakistan
39:05who are fighting a war against you.
39:07Your people are being used or not,
39:09but you are not in a state of war,
39:11but you are in a state of war.
39:13On the other hand, the issue of Pakistan
39:15is also a big issue.
39:17Because, obviously,
39:19you have criminal networks,
39:21you have drug connections,
39:23you have foreign intelligence agencies.
39:25And it is also necessary to ask the Deputy Interior Minister
39:27that when will he take responsibility
39:29for the more than 22 terrorist organizations
39:31that he is still in contact with?
39:33Because according to the Doha process,
39:35all the international processes
39:37in which he told America
39:39that the land of Afghanistan
39:41will not be used for terrorism,
39:43why is that happening?
39:45Our question to America is that
39:47the $4 billion that is being given
39:49to the national security forces of Afghanistan
39:51through the Interior Ministry,
39:53why is he not applying
39:55a conditionality
39:57that American weapons should not be used
39:59for terrorism?
40:01It is very important for us
40:03to build this case in front of Trump.
40:05If he accepts Pakistan's support
40:07for the security of Afghanistan,
40:09then on the other hand,
40:11he has to have a clear framework
40:13on all these countries.
40:15The third thing is that
40:17you have the Akhwans present,
40:19you will also have to create
40:21a legal economic framework
40:23for what you want to do with them.
40:25Because it is not possible
40:27that they come to Pakistan freely
40:29and do all the actions in Pakistan
40:31and then affect your politics
40:33and then go back and say
40:35that you will have to reframe
40:37the borders internationally.
40:39You will have to take all these factors
40:41into account.
40:43But the biggest thing is that
40:45you have to understand that
40:47when you go to a multi-domain war,
40:49you have to do it on war footage.
40:51You have to change them
40:53to a national framework.
40:55You have to make a balanced plan
40:57according to which you can make this decision.
40:59Thank you very much,
41:01Dr. Maria Sultana Sahiba,
41:03we will come back after the break
41:05and conclude the program.
41:07After the break, everyone knows
41:09what is India's angry face
41:11and Pakistan's job is to
41:13expose it more in front of the world.
41:15The other powers from the US
41:17did not want to listen to us
41:19and our doziers did not want to see it.
41:21Now their eyes have also opened
41:23on India and the plan of
41:25India's lion has been exposed.
41:27Now it is time to put the case
41:29of Balochistan in front of the world
41:31We have some problems
41:33and it is very important for us
41:35to improve the governance
41:37and listen to the people.
41:39That's all for now.
41:41May Allah protect you.