00:00You have stuff in the Zen tradition where one fellow goes to a common woman dealing with let's say cow dung
00:07and he looks at those cakes of cow dung and asks her what is this cow dung and the lady replies the Buddha
00:14and the story says in that moment the inquirer was enlightened and it sounds very strange how is it possible
00:22but that's what the Zen tradition says and there are several small stories and quans of this nature
00:27that merely means that the seeker was already very ripe the process of questioning the urge to know was always there
00:36and then something happened and that led to him taking one more step towards the direction of realization
00:43that's all that is there
