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00:00This Tuesday sees us seven days removed from the start of Texans training camp 2025.
00:07Can't believe we are almost there.
00:09And so with that being the case.
00:11They report a week from today, baby.
00:13They sure do.
00:14Well, is it report a week from today?
00:15Yeah, and they practice on Wednesday.
00:16That is correct.
00:17All right.
00:17So my days were slid in my mind.
00:19So what day are y'all going out there?
00:21We'll be there Wednesday.
00:22Wednesday.
00:22Is it Wednesday?
00:23Yeah.
00:23We don't report with them?
00:24No, we can.
00:25I was like, we don't need to get fitted for nothing.
00:27Y'all can watch them mow the lawn.
00:30Height, weight.
00:31Of course, you're 5'11 and a half.
00:32Don't do that.
00:33Don't do that.
00:34We already know that.
00:35I've only been back for like six minutes, bro.
00:37How did that happen?
00:38You put them on the depth chart, 5'11 and a half.
00:41But that's where you're wrong.
00:43Because even on the depth charts, they're going to at least lie and add an inch or two.
00:46So, no, we're not doing that.
00:48But with the Texans reporting a week from today, what are your best case and worst case scenarios
00:52at these important position battles?
00:54Again, get involved on the text line, 713-572-416.
00:58Yeah, look, I feel like the first time I see Blake Fisher, he's going to punch me square
01:04in the nose.
01:05And it's not really personal.
01:10I think a lot of people are wondering about right tackle and who's going to be there.
01:17So, like, best case and worst case is how I want to put it.
01:20Best case scenario, again, please don't punch me in the nose.
01:23I don't want Blake Fisher to be the right tackle.
01:25Oh, see, when you say it like that.
01:28I don't want – I'd love for him to be a swing tackle, a backup tackle, or whatever
01:33it might be.
01:34But you drafted Tay Erser.
01:36He can play left tackle, obviously.
01:38I'm guessing he's going to be able to switch.
01:40And I think he took some reps, didn't he, at right tackle as well during minicamp.
01:44I think he did.
01:44I mean, some reps.
01:45But it seemed like the majority, the lion's share, went to Blake Fisher at right tackle.
01:50Trent Brown is still out there.
01:52You just love bringing up this Trent Brown, don't you?
01:53I do.
01:55Do we know where he is in his recovery process?
01:57No.
01:58And he was held out and all that.
02:00And I don't know how good he's going to be, but I know what he's done.
02:03You know, that's where I land with that.
02:05Ideally, best case scenario at right tackle, Tay Erser.
02:09Worst case scenario, a bad Trent Brown.
02:12You know?
02:14That would be me.
02:14How about you at any other position, really?
02:17Because I popped some up there, and I'm curious if you have a best case or worst case with,
02:25you know, whether it's right tackle, left tackle, maybe wide receiver.
02:28Where does it fall for you?
02:29I think you – that's an interesting perspective.
02:34I don't get there in the same way that you do because I'm not as down on Blake Fisher,
02:39although as I'm re-watching, I'm like, oh, okay.
02:41I'm seeing some of the things that maybe I did not see that I imagine that you –
02:44put you in a place where you're like, I don't want this to be my primary option at right tackle.
02:49But I do feel okay, especially with the idea of next to him a veteran
02:55and seemingly accepting more of a veteran's role as we would typically or stereotypically maybe view it,
03:01Titus Howard at right guard.
03:03I do like Blake Fisher there, but I do understand where you're going.
03:06Ariante Urshry would be the best case scenario because that means that Ariante Urshry,
03:11one, has signed a contract, which we'll talk about more.
03:14But one – also that Ariante Urshry is, you know, up to speed and playing at a level
03:19where you feel not only confident in him playing but also confident in him being better
03:22than what you've gotten out of Blake Fisher, which even – however you feel about Blake Fisher,
03:26he was at least, like, near some level of, like, average starting right tackle.
03:32Right.
03:33Right?
03:34And so if you have a guy who's like, all right, I feel comfortable that he'll be average starting right tackle on day one,
03:39that's a good thing.
03:40The only thing that would give me pause on that is, is that best case scenario?
03:44Because probably best – absolute best case scenario overall for Ariante Urshry in particular is,
03:49oh, he's good enough to be the left tackle right now.
03:51Oh, that would be the ultimate.
03:53Yeah, that would be the absolute ultimate for sure.
03:54But that's probably unreasonable, although it would be, I think, the best case scenario.
03:59Worst case scenario is, yeah, probably, like, Trent Brown would have to be in that space
04:03because, again, he's coming off of that torn patellar tendon.
04:06Like, we're still – the ramp up is still necessary.
04:09So the idea that maybe they get to a point where they don't feel comfortable enough about Blake Fisher,
04:13that they don't have enough figured out on the interior to even move Titus Howard back out to right tackle,
04:18that they would have to go, hey, coming quickly off of an injury here,
04:21we need you so badly, Trent Brown, to step into this place that you need to go.
04:24So I think, yeah, that would be the worst case scenario.
04:26Another one that I have is a tight end.
04:28To me, best case scenario is not Dalton Schultz.
04:31Again, all due respect, I think we know what he is.
04:34Man, you just send yourself up with some –
04:35A lot of punches in the nose.
04:37I was watching.
04:37Remember, you're going to be out there next week, man.
04:40You're going to see these guys.
04:41They're going to step to you as a man.
04:42Yeah, you know me.
04:43As a man.
04:45Hey, come over here.
04:46I just want to talk to you.
04:46Hey, the first interview in the loo will be Blake Fisher.
04:50It will be Dalton Schultz and Blake Fisher.
04:51Can you –
04:52Somebody make sure to reference the Jeffrey Simmons situation.
04:55Get you one of them.
04:57No, in all seriousness, Dalton Schultz, I think, has a very important role on this team.
05:03But that's not the best case scenario.
05:05I mean, I think we know what his ceiling is.
05:06He's reached it.
05:07He's a veteran, et cetera.
05:08And he had a down year last year that really wasn't his fault.
05:12And I always point that out.
05:13You know, that was Bobby Slowick's fault for putting him on those islands, you know,
05:17and having to block these fools all by himself.
05:20So, this has nothing to do with what I think of Dalton Schultz.
05:23The best case scenario, though, is Cade Stover steps up.
05:27And Cade Stover is the complete tight end that a New England Patriots-styled offense loves.
05:32You know?
05:33Yeah, I think that's fair.
05:34If the pass-catching or the passing portion of the game for him gets to a place where it's just like,
05:41okay, we don't need to play Dalton Schultz.
05:44Well, not—
05:44Or they'll go to tight end.
05:46Right, exactly.
05:46We don't need him to be the primary tight end.
05:48Even though you've invested a good amount in him to be that caliber of tight end,
05:52that would still be kind of a little bit of a, you know, something to swallow within this.
05:57But you're right.
05:58Like, if Cade Stover takes that level of jump, and I know our guy, John Harris,
06:01is very fond of that possibility in this season.
06:04If he takes that kind of jump, you know that he is capable, he has the physicality and the want to
06:08to be the blocker that you need, especially in a system that would prioritize that.
06:11That would be absolute best-case scenario with all due respect to Dalton Schultz.
06:15I do anticipate a better season.
06:17I do wonder how much better, though, because better for him does not inherently mean
06:21that it's going to match what the contractual expectations are
06:25and what you would hope from him in this season.
06:27I expect a better season just because of the system.
06:29I mean, they were, frankly, just unfair to him last year.
06:32But let me ask you this.
06:34What's the best and worst-case scenario at running back?
06:38That is a very interesting one because there's a lot of space for that.
06:41When you look at the entirety of the room being Mixon, and then you also add Chubb,
06:46then you have Damian Pierce, and also Woody Marks, and then let me make sure I'm not for
06:50Godare.
06:51Is there anybody else?
06:52J.J.
06:53J.J. Taylor that you could get in there as well.
06:56I mean, best-case scenario is that Nick Chubb looks like previous, like, pre-injury Nick Chubb,
07:01and Joe Mixon continues to be able to handle the load.
07:04Sam's injury, and you just get a two-headed monster that is really, you know, really terrifying.
07:10I think you would need a little bit of Woody Marks in there as well just because of the
07:15future aspect of it, right?
07:16Like, I think there has to be some element of him in here as well because the worst-case
07:19scenario would also be some level of, I don't know, there's a lot of different permutations
07:24on worst-case scenario.
07:25Well, you mentioned mine because I've been a big fan of Nick Chubb.
07:29I'm more confident in what he will look like.
07:32And, of course, I'm just basing this off of workouts, so that could be unfair too.
07:35But I'm very confident in what he'll look like here.
07:37But really, the best-case scenario for me is not just Joe Mixon, the given, and Nick
07:41Chubb looking well, looking good.
07:44It's like, hey, have y'all seen Woody Marks?
07:46Have y'all noticed him?
07:48Because here's the other thing that people, it's weird how the point that a team is at
07:54in their existence changes the way you look at particular players.
07:58Woody Marks was drafted in the same round as Damian Pierce, fourth-round pick.
08:03And when Damian Pierce was a rookie, we were like, all right, this guy's going to be
08:06really, you know, something or whatever.
08:08And people are just like, well, let's see what Woody Marks does.
08:10What if Woody Marks steps up and looks the part?
08:13A fourth-round pick is not a real low pick for a running back.
08:15No, it's not, despite the way that you wanted to draft a running back in the end of the first
08:19round or something.
08:20No, you're right.
08:21And I think that within that, then comes the idea of, and maybe it's all within the idea
08:26of when you look at a running back and they kind of, in certain people's eyes,
08:30look like a gadget back or, you know, a pass-catching back, which I think is some of the...
08:35That's what he can do.
08:36Some of the idea of Woody Marks, he made it very clear when he sat down with Mark Vandermeer,
08:40with John Harris on Texas All Access.
08:43No, I'm capable of toting this rock.
08:45If he displays that at such a high level that you go, oh, okay, we need to find a way to
08:49make sure that he's in here and getting impact.
08:51And also growing into a place where, you know, these guys that you have, Chubb, Mixon,
08:55yes, they're good, but also they're a little bit older on the running back scale without
08:59trying to push them out of anybody's door.
09:01Or the idea of, oh, we have a dude who's young and that could be the future of this
09:05position at the very least on the rookie deal and maybe into a second deal, which is obviously
09:09like the upper echelon of a running back in this league.
09:11That would be best case scenario.
09:13Worst case scenario has to have some level of dealings with like injury issues and, you
09:16know, not making the right selections when it comes to cut down day with this particular
09:21room.
09:21For me, worst case scenario is very simple.
09:23And I don't think this is what's going to happen because I've, as I mentioned, I'm very
09:27high on him right now, but if you look at Nick Chubb and you're like, ooh, ooh boy, ooh
09:33boy, that's not the Nick Chubb I remember.
09:35That's the worst case scenario.
09:37If it's just, if it's just like it, it ain't there.
09:39You think so?
09:40Just Chubb itself.
09:41I don't think that's the worst case scenario because you didn't, this is literally kicking
09:46the tires.
09:46Well, I get it, but then you have to, you have to rely on Damian Pierce and Woody Marks and
09:51J.J.
09:51Taylor.
09:51Yeah, I think the worst case scenario is everything can look like it did last season
09:57where it was just Joe Mixon and nobody else, you know, he got to carry all of the load again.
10:04That's kind of where I'm going in the same vein.
10:06Yeah, but I think that that would then assume, and I guess there is, it would be a fair question
10:10to ask, and it's one that we're going to see, how does Damian Pierce perform in this particular
10:15system that we are imagining is going to suit him better?
10:19He seems to be pretty excited about the prospect of playing and what he has seen of the Nick
10:23Haley offense.
10:24Right.
10:24And so you would have to assume that he also still is not producing in a way that is more
10:30akin to year one than it was to last year for him.
10:34And then you would also be assuming that Woody Marks is not ready to give you anything.
10:37And then you'd also be assuming that like Dare is not sufficient in whatever role that
10:42you're asking of him.
10:43Like it would, it would have to be a lot of those types of things, which I think would actually
10:46be more of a failure on coordinator at that point and obviously general manager at that
10:51point.
10:52I think it would, for me, the absolute worst case scenario is the position battle playing
10:57out in a way where you depend on the wrong guys when you cut down.
11:00Like, let's say that, hey, we're keeping Nick Chubb.
11:03You get rid of Damian Pierce.
11:04Maybe, you know, maybe there's some level of, and I don't know if they're willing to go to
11:08this place where they're like, hey, Woody Marks is actually going to be our third down
11:10back.
11:11And thank you, Dari, for everything you've done.
11:12And then the guys that you have decided to, you know, put your chips on are not capable
11:17of doing that, whether it's like not being sufficient enough injuries then come into
11:20play or if, you know, Woody Marks just isn't ready.
11:22What's basically, real quick, what's best case scenario at wide receiver and worst?
11:26Best case scenario is the young guys are ready to go, right?
11:29Like that's best case scenario.
11:30When you talk about Jaden Higgins is willing to take all, is capable of taking all this up.
11:34Jalen Noel is ready to step in and be that next additional level.
11:38Or you know what actually the best case scenario is?
11:40The best case scenario is that Nick Cicero has a really tough job on cut down because
11:44all these dudes have come out and played well.
11:46Because again, the Mechie thing is also an interesting one.
11:49If he comes out and finally chose himself to be the guy that we anticipated when you actually
11:54drafted him, even if you have to get rid of him, that's a guy that, hey, anybody want
11:57to come give me a trade for this cat?
11:59Right?
11:59And then you're recouping some more draft capital as well.
12:02Xavier Hutchinson is another guy that has been good for you.
12:05And I imagine someone in the league can use him, even if all these guys are ready to go.
12:11So I think best case scenario is that everybody shows up well.
12:13And now you have an opportunity to get some more capital into this team once you send some
12:20of these guys away.
12:20Yeah.
12:21I was going to say the best case scenario for the receivers is Higgins.
12:25We look at Higgins like, damn, Nick Cicero gave him that guaranteed contract.
12:30Yeah, that's true.
12:31That's a steal right there.
12:32Yeah.
12:32That's a steal.
12:33He's playing like a first round pick.
12:35Yeah.
12:35I think that will be probably the best case scenario right now.
12:39I agree.
12:39I guess worst case would be some combination of Mechie and Braxton Berrios all of a sudden
12:46have to be on the field.
12:47I don't know.
12:48I mean, maybe they'll thrive.
12:50We'll find out.
12:51I think the worst case for me will be similar to the running back position where it might
12:56be again, like last season, it's only Nico and everybody else is hurt or not really producing.
13:02Where you back to square one, back to what you was doing last season.
13:05Yeah.
13:05I think the optionality of like the young guys being ready and then you're able to kind
13:10of make this more of a young room that continues to project even further forward, opening up
13:14an offense that has a better window for longer.
13:17The only question about that at that point also is then, you know, do you want a room
13:22where you don't have a lot of veterans, I guess, per se?
13:25But I guess then you would look at Nico is starting to become a little bit more veteran.
13:29Of course, Christian Kirk, you import that in and then what does the depth look like
13:33beyond four?
13:34Like, is it Justin Watson as your fifth guy or what have you?
13:36I don't know.
13:37But there you go.
13:39A preliminary look at what the best worst case scenarios would be for the important position
13:44battles, at least as we think of them right now.
13:47A week away from reporting to training camp.
13:49A good question from the 713.
13:50Where's Jawar Jordan?
13:51Jordan, he was a third round pick is what the thought was.
13:55No, he was a sixth.
13:56Jawar Jordan was a sixth.
13:58And I don't know that he factors into the picture majorly anyways.
14:02Yeah, I don't either.
14:03I hope.
14:03We'll see.
14:04I mean, he just...
14:05How y'all gonna disrespect that man?
14:06Like, I'm just playing.
14:07Small back.
14:08Like, I enjoy it.
14:09Like, both him and J.J. Taylor, I enjoy when they get on the field.
14:11It just...
14:12And it's evident, by the way that the Texans have handled this, that they don't view them
14:15as, like, significant answers to anything in a major way.
14:18Like, at best, they're guys that they feel comfortable bringing in, you know, in instances
14:23where you need some depth or what have you.
14:25But I like them as players.
14:27It's not that they're bad players.
14:28I just don't know that they're raised to the level of, you know, mattering, especially
14:31for a team that should be contending heavily in the AFC.