00:00Story!
00:02It's another ending story!
00:04That's some of my favorite stuff, is the dumb comedies
00:07where it's so dumb, it's aggressively stupid.
00:10It's a fine line between fan and stalker.
00:12Yo, what's up, Johnny?
00:13It's lovely to see you.
00:15We've never met.
00:16Jack, I interviewed you on Zoom once.
00:17I was very nervous.
00:19I was excited and nervous because I wanted to tell you
00:21how much I loved Tenacious D.
00:22I remember sat in my living room waiting for the camera
00:24to go and, like, sweating my palms.
00:26Very lovely about it.
00:27Oh, good.
00:29Have you ever seen us live?
00:30I haven't seen you live.
00:31No.
00:32Not yet.
00:33Yeah.
00:33Not yet.
00:34We had a great show at the O2 last time we played London.
00:37It was really amazing.
00:38I'm one of the lucky people who actually saw it.
00:41I've seen Tenacious D a few times,
00:42and I went and I was there in the beginning
00:44when you only had a few songs.
00:45That's the way it was meant to be seen.
00:47At Largo.
00:48There's not supposed to be anyone in the audience.
00:51You're supposed to be, and you were, yeah.
00:53I was in that audience, yeah.
00:55Yeah.
00:55I was going to ask how long you guys known each other,
00:57because you guys have been around the block a few times.
00:59We go back to the 90s.
01:00I remember Jack in, like, Neverending Story 3.
01:03People don't talk about that anymore.
01:05Around the same time as Clueless.
01:06Yeah, that's ancient.
01:07That's a great movie, though.
01:08That's a good, like, threequel as threequels go.
01:10And that one you cannot find.
01:11The only way to see that is if you go on eBay and get a videotape.
01:16Or if you were brought up in the 90s
01:19and things were just kind of repeated cyclically on terrestrial TV.
01:22Yeah.
01:23And then you know you get one hit a year, at least.
01:25It's going to be on there sometime.
01:26Story.
01:27Exactly.
01:28It's a never-ending story.
01:30Do you guys go that far back, or when did you first kind of hook up,
01:34start moving in the same circles, et cetera?
01:35I met Jack right after he was in Bob Roberts.
01:41It was his first movie.
01:431992.
01:44And one of my very first auditions.
01:46And it was, like, around the time of that movie.
01:50Because I saw it.
01:51I was like, who is that guy?
01:52And then a few weeks later, I had an audition.
01:53And he was in the waiting room.
01:54We were both auditioning for his part for, I don't even remember what it was.
01:58But I was like, oh, my God, it's the guy from Bob Roberts.
02:00And I went over and complimented him deservedly,
02:03because he's hilarious in the film.
02:05And we would always kind of run into each other at different events or things.
02:11We had some mutual friends.
02:13But I'd say those first several years, I was just kind of a fan.
02:19And it's a fine line between fan and stalker.
02:23Yeah.
02:24He might have been like, hey, that's the guy from the Nintendo advert.
02:26Was it Nintendo?
02:27It was a Nintendo advert.
02:29Yeah.
02:30But if he, I never heard that.
02:34He cuts it close to his chest.
02:36Yeah.
02:37You played it cool, Jack.
02:38Well, we hung out at, there was an Anchorman event.
02:41And we did like a charity reading of Anchorman.
02:44That's right.
02:45And we hung out a little bit there.
02:47And I think that's where we made the rainbow connection.
02:49Because after that, I think, we started communicating on texts.
02:53Once in a while there'd be a text.
02:55Yeah.
02:56Yeah.
02:57And that's when I came and saw you on Broadway in The Shape of Things.
03:04And we hung out a little bit backstage.
03:06And then, yeah, we kept in touch.
03:09And then I was like, hey, I'm going to be in the School of Rock is on Broadway.
03:14Do you want to go see it?
03:15Do your son want to go see it?
03:17I'm bringing my son.
03:18And we connected there.
03:19I'm glad you guys have come back together.
03:20And then it was like, we've got to work together, man.
03:22Oh, it was really the best.
03:23To make this thing happen.
03:24That was actually really fun, going to see School of Rock on Broadway with you.
03:27Broadway.
03:28With you.
03:29Because talk about a theater that starts to mumble and murmur and get excited.
03:33Let's talk about getting excited.
03:34Let's get on to this movie before I run out of time.
03:36Oh, my God.
03:37Hurry up.
03:38I'm going to echo Steve Zahn's words on this.
03:41This is the dumbest Christmas movie I've ever seen.
03:44And it does make you think, like, I've got to talk about that.
03:47The chair scene with the peeing on the spider bike, which was never referenced again.
03:53It felt very improv-y.
03:54It's funny that he says the chair scene, because there is no chair.
03:57It's like a human chair.
03:58It seems actually so well.
03:59Yes.
04:00The chair was in my mind.
04:01Why don't we get these kind of silly cinema comedies as much anymore?
04:05Has superhero movies, no offense, and streaming kind of killed them dead?
04:11Or are we waiting for a comeback at the start of a kind of resurgence and commands?
04:15The walk hard, Dewey Cox story, which is a great movie you guys read together.
04:18Well, you know, the thing is, it's scary to be dumb.
04:21And that's some of my favorite stuff is the dumb comedies, where it's so dumb.
04:26It's aggressively stupid, and it turns into genius comedy.
04:30But it's not the easiest thing to do.
04:32You might just be dumb.
04:34Yeah.
04:35So, you know, there's a little science involved in turning that dumb to smart.
04:41And I really love it when I see one, and it doesn't always work.
04:45I like it when there's some misfires in a big old comedy, because it undercuts any pretension.
04:51It's just, oh my God, the only thing that this movie is concerned with or cares about is trying to make me laugh.
04:58And whenever I see something that's just like, it only wants to make you laugh, I'm on board.
05:03I love that.
05:04And I certainly hope that they start making more and more comedies, because they always have.
05:10And that's kind of what, when I'm really bummed out, or happy, or really anything, that's kind of what I want to watch.
05:16Yeah.
05:17Well, this certainly made me laugh a bunch of times.
05:19It is one of those things.
05:20It did feel improv-y.
05:21Like, some people on the stage just go, I'm going to try this now.
05:23And we're going to try this.
05:24And we're going to try this.
05:25And you're like, Christ, how did this get signed off to go on screen at times?
05:28But there's a beauty in unabashed stupidity.
05:31Yes.
05:32And I look forward to a lot more of it.
05:33Gents, thanks for giving me some of your time.
05:36Merry bloody Christmas.
05:37Merry Christmas.
05:38And I'll see you down the road.
05:40Absolutely.
