00:00But Karen Carney was a proper, authentic, strictly winner, wasn't she?
00:05She's clean, never danced before.
00:07Never danced before.
00:07She was a footballer.
00:08Well, she had danced from the age of 3 to 16 in street dance.
00:12And she used to also compete in it.
00:15But the narrative that we were led to believe that she was a non-dancer,
00:19I think they were brilliant.
00:21I loved them.
00:22I was so happy for Carlos that they won.
00:26But please don't think that you can be that good and not be a trained dancer.
00:30Because when she came out week one, do you remember the double spin in the air and landed it?
00:34None of us can do that.
00:36So I'm just putting it in the perspective.
00:38But the narrative was that she wasn't.
00:39So did Amber have too hard a time?
00:41She did.
00:42And I felt so sorry for her.
00:43Although she's like a current professional...
00:45Well, you say that, but so was Karen.
00:49That's what I'm saying.
00:50Well, I mean, when she was a child, but then she went off to be a footballer.
00:54But if you train as a child, it stays in you.
00:57That's the time when you want to learn it.
00:59Not as you get older.
01:00So are you saying we should stop these people with dance training being in the show?
01:03I just think there needs to be a level of...
01:05Because how can you be a non-dancer on the show competing against someone that's a professional dancer,
01:11pretty much, or very, very trained?
01:13So, let's do this.
01:13So, let's take a look at the stage.
01:15So, let's go to the stage.
01:16So, let's take a look at the stage.
