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Stefan Molyneux
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Stefan Molyneux examines how murderers might be dealt with in a free society, questioning the idea that governments handle crime well. He points out shortcomings in police work and common misunderstandings about the courts. Molyneux stresses the role of social issues, pushing for steps like early help and mental health care to stop violence before it starts. He also looks at restorative justice as a way to hold people accountable without relying on prisons. In the end, he makes the case that a genuine free society works on the underlying reasons for crime to build a safer world.

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Transcript
00:00All right, Stephen Molling from Free Domain, a great question from freedomain.locals.com,
00:05lovely community, I hope you will join. You can do so at freedomain.com slash donate.
00:13All right, so the question is, how do you deal with murderers in a free society?
00:18How do you deal with murderers in a free society? So I'm going to unpack this at a number of
00:25different levels, and we're going to go deep like a knife wound. We're going to go deep because
00:31there is an implicit premise involved in how does a free society deal with X, whatever X is. How does
00:41a free society deal with the education of children, the provision of health care, the protection of
00:46property, the defense of a nation? How does a free society deal with these issues?
00:55Now, implicit in this is the belief that a status society deals with these things.
01:06And a free society, a stateless society, has to do it better. So if you say, well, how does
01:15a free society protect your property? It's like, well, how's your property being protected at the
01:20moment? Well, it's not. In fact, it's being kind of pillaged, right? Because they can raise
01:25property taxes, drive up home values, which default increases property taxes. There's asset
01:30forfeiture, there's taxation, there's unfunded liabilities, there's national debts, there's
01:34taxes on everything that you do, and you cannot functionally use the court system to protect
01:41your property. There's squatters' rights, there's, if you've ever tried to get the government
01:47to help you protect your property, you realize that it doesn't, really. I mean, I remember
01:55decades ago, a guy I worked with was telling me about his brother who had a very expensive
02:00car stolen that had GPS in it, and he went to the cops and he said, listen, I need you
02:04to go and get my car back before it gets chopped up or shipped off to wherever. And the cops
02:10were like, yeah, just file an insurance claim. Like, we're not going in, right?
02:13And, I mean, everybody's got tons of stories like this. If something, like, imagine, right?
02:20So, if something gets stolen off your porch, right, some Amazon packages and porch pirates
02:26come, what happens? Let's say you go to the police and you say, oh, here's the footage and
02:31blah, blah, blah. Do you expect to have your property protected and returned to you or restitution
02:36or anything? Well, of course not, right? So, the idea that governments protect your property
02:40at the moment and saying, well, you know, if I need a substitute, right? I need a substitute.
02:47So, if you're drinking a bottle of water and somebody says, oh, you should drink something
02:51else, then you say, well, but I already have my water, right? I already have my water.
02:57You're really going to have to prove to me that whatever you want to substitute for this
03:01lovely, delicious, cold mountain stream glacial runoff water, whatever you want to replace
03:06it's got to be way better because I already got this water, man. Why would you want to
03:10replace it with something better?
03:13If you say to a guy who's really lonely, desperate for a girlfriend, hey, I have a way of getting
03:19you a great girlfriend, he'll say, I'm interested, right? But if you say to a guy who's happily
03:25married, I have a way to get you a great girlfriend, then it's like, no, I already have this thing
03:31that works. I'm already happily married, so I don't want to, I don't want a great girlfriend,
03:36right? So, if you say, how does a free society handle education, then there's this belief,
03:46well, we have education already being handled in a government society, so you got to show
03:52how it's going to be better, even better, in a free society, right? If you're starving,
04:01what your question is, how do you get food? I need food, right? That's your question.
04:08If you already have a giant buffet, right? If you already have a giant buffet, and then people
04:15are saying, no, no, no, we can do, we can get you better than a giant buffet, then people are going
04:19to say, well, holy crap, I mean, I already have a giant buffet, you've really got to sell me on how
04:26this is going to be better, right? And so, if you say, well, gee, how are murderers handled in a
04:35free society, there is, of course, the implicit baked-in premise that murderers are somehow being
04:41handled in the present society, right? Now, how does the present society deal with murderers?
04:51Well, of course, the present society doesn't even know if they are murderers until a very lengthy
04:58and laborious court process is gone through. The solution for murder rate is well below 50%.
05:05It used to be very high, and it's well below 50%, 20, 30, 40% in some places. So, murder clearance rates
05:13are very low. And also, people are unjustly charged with murder, you know, tons of DNA exoneration,
05:23you know, years or decades after the fact. And that's just those people who keep pushing, right?
05:29It's not the people who die in prison or don't push or don't have the DNA evidence. So, how is
05:35murder dealt with at the moment? Well, there's a law against it, okay? How well is that law pursued?
05:41How just are the arrests and trials and imprisonments, right? Because you know the way it goes,
05:46right? Is that even if somebody is unjustly imprisoned, right? Then what will happen is
05:54they will be threatened with the death penalty, like in some places, right? They'll be threatened with,
06:00well, you know, we're going to charge you with first-degree murder, we're going to seek the death
06:03penalty, and we're going to kill you. Unless, unless you plea out. And if you plea out, maybe
06:11we'll reduce it to manslaughter, imperfect self-defense, something, right? Or even a second-degree
06:19murder or whatever, something which is obviously a long sentence, maybe even a life sentence,
06:23but not a death sentence. So, how many people are justly convicted in a free society? And that's
06:33just one of many, many things that we're talking about. If the police kills someone, how many times
06:41is that justified? I mean, body cams have shown that it certainly does have justifications,
06:46but there is also, the cops can lie about it, and it's very tough, you know, if there's no body
06:53cams. If the cop says, well, he drew his gun, or he drew what I thought was a gun, or whatever it is,
06:57turns out he was reaching for his wallet, it was dark, I couldn't tell. It's kind of tough,
07:02right? So, even agents of the state can kill people and get away with it. I'm not saying any of this is
07:09impossible in a free society. It's just that the idea that it's being handled now, but it needs to
07:15be even better in a free society is not correct. Now, if we look at murderers, which is the
07:23unlawful killing of another, right? The unlawful killing of another human being, and we take away
07:31sort of the costumes and the military and the pomp and the circumstances and the folded flags and the
07:35caskets and the 21-gun salutes and all of the pageantry, then, let's say, the invasion of Iraq
07:42killed a couple of thousand Americans and killed 500,000 Iraqis. That's a lot of fucking murder,
07:52because Iraq, while being ruled by a vile dictator, who had, of course, been helped out by the U.S.
07:57quite a bit, it was not about to invade or destroy America, right? So, if you look at that,
08:08then murder begins to take on, well, a bit of a different light, right? That's half a million.
08:16That doesn't even count. All of the people bombed and killed in, gosh, you name it, right?
08:22South America, Central America, the Middle East, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Korea, and so on, right?
08:34Doesn't count. All of that. There are estimates that, of course, post-Second World War, millions and
08:41millions and millions of people have been killed by Western powers, and America in particular,
08:49and that's all murder. America has mostly friendly neighbors to the North and South, has
08:55the biggest oceans on the planet on either side. It should be able to get by without slaughtering
09:01millions of people, because it's not being invaded in that kind of way. There is significant reports
09:07that Venezuela emptied out its prisons and shipped its criminal, feral, prison, violent population
09:14into the United States, which was all facilitated by the American government, particularly the Biden
09:23administration. And the welfare state was used as bait, people were brought in, and they were let
09:32loose in the interior, where they murdered a lot of people. So, is that your government protecting you
09:40from murder or allowing criminals and paying criminals to come to your country and kill you?
09:49If you look at England, I mean, obviously, rape is a horrible crime. Rape against children, one of the
09:55worst crimes of all. And the government in England covered up and facilitated the rape of hundreds of
10:03thousands of thousands of little white girls and Sikh girls, in particular, in England. If you look at
10:11the 10 million slaughtered in the First World War and the 50 million slaughtered in the Second World
10:16War, the quarter of a billion slaughtered by governments outside of war, just in the 20th century
10:21alone, the 100 million killed by communism, that's a lot of fucking murder. When you read about
10:29murders and murderers, the amount of incompetence that the government has in trying to deal with
10:38murderers is truly remarkable. I mean, even things like Bernie Madoff, there were tons of people saying
10:44that Bernie Madoff, like a con artist, ran a Ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff's returns were statistically
10:51impossible. And the government was informed for many, many years prior to the arrest and conviction
10:59of Bernie Madoff that he was a sketchy, slithery, tentacle-fingered, theft magnet son of a bitch.
11:08Well, how did that work out? If you look at the incompetence in things like the poor Paul Bernardo,
11:15Carla Homolka case, and if you look at the various serial killers and how many people warned the police,
11:21how many people gave evidence, how many people, you know, cried out to the police to do something.
11:28There was a young woman, a girl, a little girl, who was abducted and raped and murdered in Ontario
11:36some decades ago, and it was someone that she knew, because her coat hook was hung too high for her to
11:44reach in the home, it was someone that she knew, who also knew that the parents would be away,
11:49because she was home alone. And the police for decades pursued and
11:55tried and incarcerated the guy who turned out to be innocent, when pretty much only, I think only
12:02three phone calls were made the morning that the parents left the girl, or left, and so that the
12:07girl was going to come home alone. And two were the family members who had alibis, and one was to
12:12another guy who didn't have an alibi, and that was the guy. So if they had simply, and they had the
12:18phone calls, right, they knew the phone calls, so if they'd simply talk to the guy who knew, because
12:23the parents phoned him and said, oh, we're going to be away for the day, and so all they had to do was,
12:28and the girl knew him. So, I mean, just things like that. And of course, you know, sometimes the
12:33police are efficient, and I get that it's sort of a selection bias, but the amount of incompetence that
12:39goes on in police work is astonishing, and the amount of bribery and collusion, and so on, and the
12:46amount of unjust persecutions, you know, everyone's kind of heard these stories of, oh, you know, the
12:53cop got mad at me, the guy slept with the, you know, I did something to the cop's wife, or, you know, the
13:00cop got mad at me, and was harassing me to the point where I had to leave town, like it did, because
13:06every time I'd go out, he'd pull me over, he'd harass me, he'd, right, so this kind of stuff is
13:10legion. The cops, of course, have the perfect right to lie to you, and you can't lie to the cops, and
13:18the cops can search just about anything if they get their dog sniffers out there, and they're like, oh, do you
13:23smell something? And the dog gets excited, oh, okay, right, so cops plant evidence, so, again, I mean, there's
13:29there's good cops, and there's good work, but there's a lot of really shady and negative stuff
13:34that is going on. So, if you just look at, say, three to 350 million people murdered by governments
13:46under statism, and then you say, well, but how would a free society deal with murderers? Well,
13:54it wouldn't pay them, it wouldn't force them to become murderers through the draft,
13:59right, and individual murderers you can protect yourself against in a free society, because you
14:06can have weaponry, and you can have, of course, your cameras, and so catching them will be relatively
14:13easy. I mean, basically, the only crime that exists in sort of modern surveillance societies,
14:19and technology societies, and so on, the only crime that really exists is that which is allowed to
14:25exist. I mean, if you look at Maduro, sorry, not Maduro, if you look at the guy, Zibu Kelly, who came in
14:31in El Salvador and dropped the murder rate like 95%, just by arresting people who literally had carved
14:36tattoos of their murderous histories on their face. It wasn't that complicated. All of this is, uh,
14:42everything that exists in terms of criminality is allowed to exist. And, of course, we all know
14:50anarcho-tyranny, right? And this was identified by Solzhenitsyn many years ago, where if some guy is
14:56attacking you, and you use a knife to protect yourself, then you're charged with terrorism,
15:01because the criminal doesn't know any better, and you are unjust in protecting yourself and doing the
15:06wrong thing, and so on. And so, the fact that people who use self-defense are regularly charged
15:15with crimes, and sometimes get worse sentences than those who attack them, there's countless
15:21examples, of course, in England of criminals getting lesser sentences than those who protested against
15:29it, or fought back against it. You're not allowed to carry weapons, and you can't defend yourself,
15:36so. Or if you look at something like COVID, and the COVID, uh, the COVID-tyranny, of course,
15:43cause a lot of people to commit suicide and, and, uh, become criminals, and, and so on. And if you look
15:49at the vaccine, and you say, well, for those who had very low risk of death from COVID, there's
15:56arguments that the death from vaccine was higher, and so that was something that was very much pushed
16:03and bullied, and sometimes kind of enforced by a government. So, could you count that as a kind
16:08of murder if the information is withheld, and, and so on? Sure, sure. And it's sort of, you understand,
16:15I can sort of go on and on with this kind of stuff. Kids, uh, who are trapped in government schools and
16:20bullied to the point where they either kill others or kill themselves, uh, is a form of institutional or
16:25environmental, uh, slaughter. If you look at, this is a show I did many years ago with Dr. Mary Ruart,
16:33R-U-W-A-R-T, who's a very fine researcher, and she pointed out that the FDA was brought into being
16:41largely as a result of thalidomide that resulted in a relatively small number of birth mutations
16:48and deaths. It was an anti-morning sickness. Quote, medicine turned out to have significant
16:54genetic corruption problems, and in order to, like, in response to a few, a hundred deaths,
17:03the FDA, and this is like 15 years ago that I interviewed her, the FDA had been calculated to
17:09have cost 5 million American lives by banning life-saving medicines that were legal everywhere
17:14else from the American market. That's the kind of murder if you prevent people from getting a
17:18withhold of medicines that are legal in Europe and other places, other places with strict
17:24regulatory controls, uh, beta blockers and things like that. Then, uh, yeah, that's, if you're
17:29withholding medicine from people that otherwise would save their lives, that's the kind of murder.
17:32So, again, I, you know, we could sort of go on and on with this stuff, the poor government roads,
17:36bad signage, over-signage, uh, leading to roads not being cleaned and roads not being maintained,
17:42leading to traffic deaths, uh, and so on. So, yeah, there's tons of, uh, tons of sort of
17:48examples of ways in which governments directly or indirectly, uh, get hundreds of millions of
17:54people killed, which is a kind of murder. And then they, uh, pay, uh, people to murder others
18:01by the hundreds of thousands or millions in wartime. So, when you say, how would a free society
18:09deal with murderers, it's like, not pay them? Not enforce murder? Not initiate wars and cause the
18:20murders of hundreds of thousands or millions of people? Just the four hundreds of millions of
18:24people, really, all around. Uh, yeah, uh, this isn't even, of course, to count perhaps the most
18:29egregious one, which is, uh, abortion. Abortions are not only legalized, but are funded and paid for
18:35by governments resulting in the highest death count in all of history. Just in America, Roe v. Wade has
18:41killed more babies than all of the wars throughout human history. So, yeah, maybe not fund it, maybe not
18:50pay for it, maybe not enforce it, maybe not lure tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of
18:56dangerous criminals into your country and then disarm you and, and punish you for protecting
19:01yourself. I mean, just, you know, a couple of thoughts, right? Because there's this belief,
19:05well, you know, you, you gotta show, you gotta show how you're gonna do better than the government
19:10if you want to sell me your system. Like, I already have a nice car. If you want me to upgrade to an
19:15even nicer car, oof, you know, I'm pretty comfortable with the car I have and this is whole new technology
19:20and so on. You know, I already have an iPhone 16. If you want me to go to an iPhone 17, you really
19:28gotta sell me because it's really pricey, right? But it's a higher sale because it's a whole different
19:32technology, which is free market rather than statism. So, I just sort of wanted to point that,
19:37like, don't fall into the trap, and I sometimes do as well, so, you know, this is a reminder for us
19:42all, I suppose, but don't fall into the trap of believing that you have to sell a better solution
19:51for murder than currently exists. Now, if you look at murderers, and, of course, this is a,
20:00this covers a lot of violent criminals, but we can sort of focus on the murderers.
20:03If you look at murderers, then they have particular brain structures, violent criminals have particular
20:09brain structures that are pretty easy to identify in a brain scan. Now, what I mean by this is that,
20:15you know, there are people who lack empathy processing and so on, and, of course, the people
20:19who lack empathy processing and maybe have, you know, the warrior genes and all that kind of hair
20:24trigger stuff, and maybe are, you know, the sweet spot for criminality is around IQ 85. Oh, there's
20:29another one. After the George Floyd and Black Lives Matter riots and protests and de-policing,
20:35the murder rates of blacks went through the roof, which is another kind of state-sanctioned and
20:41sometimes state-subsidized murder. A lot of murderers come from single-mother households,
20:46and single-mother households are paid for and enforced by the state, and you can't have a man
20:51there, and you get money only if he's not. So, again, this is, you know, the government is
20:55exacerbating the problem of murder. It's not dealing, if the government did nothing, murder
20:59would be better off, because you could at least have self-defense. So, if you were to look at these
21:06brain scans, you would see, oh, this person's got a very anomalous empathy processing center.
21:11You know, when I show them pictures of people being tortured, the happy centers of the brain
21:16light up, rather than the horrified centers of the brain light up. And that doesn't mean
21:21that everybody who's like that is a murderer, but pretty much everyone who's a murderer is
21:26like that. And even if they're not murderers, right, people who don't have empathy, right,
21:32empathy is like this complex wiring together of 13 different brain sections during infancy
21:37and toddlerhood, and you can't fix it later, right? You can't fix it later. If you don't
21:43get the empathy wiring when you're young, you just don't get it. And so, in a free society,
21:49you would want to see if the child was being raised in such a horrible, violent, cold, neglected
21:56environment that they were not developing empathy, right? You'd want to see that, and you'd want
22:04to intervene in society. Now, does government ever do that? Nope. Government does not do that.
22:10I mean, the technology is relatively recent, although you could kind of test people for
22:14many things earlier. But the government doesn't do brain scans and say, ooh, you know, this kid is
22:21really developing a pretty monstrous and cold-hearted stuff, and we're going to have to intervene.
22:30And then you would put incentives in place to make sure that intervention was going to happen and
22:36work to reverse or undo the damage as best could be done. You'd try and find it pretty early, right?
22:43So, there's no incentive in that. But see, government needs criminals. Government needs criminals to
22:50justify its own existence, to threaten and terrorize the population, and to keep people jumpy and
22:56clamorous of the need for safety, right? And so on, right? And the people who are really bad,
23:05violent, dysfunctional parents, they don't want to be outed as child abusers, and they would, of course,
23:10there are all of these horrible groups that would just simply sue to prevent this kind of stuff as
23:14being, I don't know, racist or, I don't know, sexist against single mothers or something like that,
23:19right? So, you just can't get any sort of facts and so on. But, you know, violence is a problem that
23:24has specific causes, right? You can just look at my Bomb in the Brain series, and it has a specific
23:32cause and a specific ideology and an evolution, and we certainly have the technology to see it
23:40beginning to form, right? Lack of empathy and violence and so on. We certainly have the ability
23:46to watch it form, to see it form, and we certainly have the capacity to change it, to prevent it, to see
23:55when there is violence occurring. We have very much the capacity to detect it and to fix it, to reverse
24:03it, to remediate it. And that may involve taking the child from the parents, but, I mean, I have so
24:10little a problem with that and so much advocacy for that. It could scarcely be expressed in a relatively
24:14short podcast. So, a lot of murderers come from highly abusive households, and there's, you know,
24:23significant history of reading about this. Germany actually took children and gave them to pedophiles
24:29as part of a sort of social experiment of, like, God knows what, right? So, how do you deal with
24:37murderers? Well, you have a society where the costs of murderers are born by the murderers and their
24:46parents. So, if someone becomes a murderer and you do a brain scan and it turns out that they
24:55were raised in such a way that they didn't have empathy, then you would also charge the parents.
25:01Now, does that mean you charge the parents for every crime?
25:03Well, I'm fine with that if there can be causality proven, right? So, if there's a brain scan
25:09that's done at birth and the brain is healthy, and then there's a brain scan done of a murderer
25:15and their brain is damaged by clear effects of child abuse, then sure, yeah, you would charge
25:20the parents. And what that does, of course, is it gives the parents a great incentive to make sure
25:24that they don't produce murderers. So, they take their kid, oh, it's a brain scan, let's make sure the
25:29kid's developing empathy and so on and all that kind of stuff. And yeah, I say, oh, but it's
25:37unjust to charge the parents for the actions of the adult child. Why not charge both? I have no
25:45problem. Again, assuming the causality can be shown, I'm not just everyone or somebody can have a brain
25:50tumor, right? It's not the parent's fault if they become a murderer at 35 because they get a brain
25:53tumor that destroys their empathy centers or their neofrontal cortex or their restraining bolts,
25:59so to speak. Okay, I get it, we don't charge the parents, right? But if the kid is healthy,
26:03developing well, then parental cruelty is shown and the parental cruelty destroyed the empathy
26:09centers and, right, then yeah, then you turn someone into a kind of pit bull, right? Like you
26:14trained up a violent person and so on. Now, of course, again, this would not really happen in a
26:20free society because parents who were training a child to become a violent criminal would have the
26:28child taken away from them, right? Obviously. I mean, that's not, I mean, if that's controversial
26:33to you, I almost don't even know what to say. That if parents are abusing a child to the point
26:38where the child becomes a violent criminal or has violent criminal tendencies and so on, then yeah,
26:44I mean, you would take the child away and you would work to reverse the damage and you would charge
26:48the parents because they are crippling a child and releasing a dangerous predator into the wild.
26:55I mean, obviously, if a man tortures and abuses his dog and then releases it at the playground where
27:00it attacks children, then the dog would be taken away and the man would be charged with the resulting
27:06crimes. This is not, it's not controversial to anybody who, I mean, like your parents, right? But
27:13no, that's a, no problem with that. I'm totally, totally fine with that. In fact, I'm very keen on
27:17that kind of stuff. Parents who create violent, abusive children and adults should be charged.
27:23Yep. And the intervention should happen as early as possible and the children should be taken away
27:29and the parents should be charged. And any decent parent wants to raise a peaceful, empathetic child
27:36and strong, you know, strong, peaceful, reasonable, empathetic child. And so they will bring their
27:42kids in, get the brain scans. Oh, how's development going? Well, if there are any issues or questions,
27:46you would be referred to a specialist who would help you. And then there would be another scan a month
27:52later and looking for improvements. And if there weren't, right, then you would question the child
27:57and you might even put recording devices in the home that would be activated by cries of pain or
28:02something like that. I mean, who knows, right? I have no problem with invading privacy with people
28:07who are abusing children because we need to protect the children, right? So you would have agencies and
28:15you would have parental responsibilities and so on. Because society pays a lot for criminals. Criminals
28:21cost society huge amounts of money. Who pays for that? Well, taxpayers and the unborn in terms of
28:26national debts and so on. But the individual who make bad decisions don't pay themselves.
28:32And especially with modern technology, it's not even that modern. Brain scans have been around for a while.
28:37But with modern technology, it's very easy to figure out which children are being abused.
28:44And the people who would have to sanction murderers don't want murderers to sanction.
28:51Because if you're being sold protection from murderers, the fewer murderers there are,
28:54the cheaper the protection you can be sold. And therefore, the companies that are selling you,
28:58like the companies that sell you fire insurance, really want to make sure that you have
29:02fire alarm systems in your home, right? And you don't have open flames in the home,
29:09you don't have a big fire pit in the home, right? So they're looking for where they want to make sure
29:12that you have non-flammable insulation and, you know, all that kind of stuff, right?
29:16Separate exits so you don't die. So life insurance companies will charge you less if you don't smoke,
29:23if you maintain a healthy body weight and all kinds of stuff, right? So all of that's pretty
29:28pretty understandable. So insurance companies want to avoid what they have to insure or what they're
29:35paid to insure. And so companies that want to protect you from criminals want to make sure that
29:38there are as few violent criminals as possible, which means that they will involve themselves in
29:46child racing to the point where brutal parents producing violent children or violent adults
29:51will be sanctioned and the children will, they'll either learn better skills or the children will
29:57be taken away and the parents will have their asses thrown in jail, which would be a good thing for
30:01the world as a whole. Or whatever, right? Now, if somebody does murder, of course, then they're
30:07identified through sort of the most modern techniques of investigation and so on. And they're found and
30:15they're tried. And if they're found guilty of murder, then they are removed from society. How are they
30:21removed from society? Well, uh, through ostracism. And of course, people would sign contracts,
30:26right? Which says, look, if I'm found guilty of killing someone, I agree to submit to the
30:29punishment. And people who don't want to sign those contracts will not be allowed to participate in
30:34society. Economic ostracism, right? So, so there'll be contracts, which penalties, right? Penalties for
30:42here are the penalties if you do bad things. And people sign those contracts, and then it's not
30:47jail, it's the enforcement of a contract. I agree to be taken out of society to make society safe.
30:54If I agree to pay restitution from my assets, uh, and so on. So yeah, people will just have
31:00contracts or, or even if they don't have contracts, then they would still be economically ostracized
31:06from the society until they made restitution or whatever it is. So yeah, they were just taken
31:11out of society, restitution where, where possible. And that's how it would deal. That's how society
31:17would deal with it. And that's actually how you deal with it. Prevention and accurate and
31:22effective cure. And, you know, would a free society have the death penalty? It seems less
31:28likely, unlikely, because you get, uh, subsidized labor from people who go to prison and the
31:35restitution could be helpful. And wouldn't it be nice to have criminals to pay for law enforcement?
31:40Now, of course I get, well, yes, but you could, you could just throw people in jail to get free
31:44labor. I get all of that. So there'd have to be checks and balances. Uh, but checks and balances
31:48are only possible in a free society. Checks and balances are only possible in the free market.
31:53They're not possible with government because government can just ignore stuff, right? Oh,
31:56only Congress can declare war. Like every president declares a military action, right? And, and war and
32:02all of that, right? So that is not, uh, feasible, right? So we'll get, uh, uh, we'll get checks and
32:10balances through the government. It's like, no, you won't. No, you won't. So anyway, I hope that
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