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00:01interesting night on one side bad night on the other side we'll get into both of them obviously
00:06hello hello kenny all right what'd you think of the draft well i wanted to ask you uh only because
00:13obviously in the lead up to the draft the receiver we ended up taking which is the sexier of the
00:18picks no matter when you take them they're always going to be especially a first round pick i feel
00:22like that was the guy we talked the least about outside of how to pronounce his name funno no no
00:28the receiver oh conception conception uh i think that was the one that kind of surprised me a little
00:35bit okay uh offensive line offensive line like i i you know we sat here and i think a lot
00:41of it was
00:41because we thought the receiver they were going to take uh the excuse me they're going to take
00:45receiver first and then later on go get the offensive lineman and it was the inverse of that
00:50once tape was off the board and so i don't know if the bronze are ever going to be truthful
00:54about how
00:55they felt about carnell tate and if he would have been there had they have taken him
00:57um so i think that was that was a little wrinkle right away is that i think a lot of
01:03browns fans
01:03had gotten in the mode that it was going to be wide receiver early offensive line late and it was
01:09the
01:09inverse of that and it's as far as fano like they needed him they took him like i'm not i
01:16wasn't
01:16jumping up and down when they got him i'd seem like same we were we were trying to figure out
01:20if there
01:21was a gap between all of those guys so i think they they originally like a month ago i was
01:27like you got to take offensive line early right you have to and then it was only until the lead
01:32up
01:32of the draft where i was like man there's this people seem so down on all these offensive linemen
01:37it's it's just it's never what it's never what it seems it is never boom boom there you go it's
01:43always going to be different it's always going to be zig when when people think zag um that is
01:50it's it's just going to be that way now that said uh there's a lot of there's there's there's
01:55qualifications there's qualifications that you know you got to say qualifying statements that
02:00you have to say uh we had spencer fano on right after he got drafted uh you were always the
02:06first
02:06because we're the flagship homie your cleveland browns 92-3 the fan we had him on right after he
02:10got drafted the interview was great we had casey concepcion uh right after he got drafted you could
02:14tell the emotion from both these guys so you you end up liking the guys all right that that that
02:19said personally you end up kind of rooting for the guys all right and i think that they will be
02:24in
02:24town uh today i don't know if they'll be interviewed introduced to the media today but i know that
02:29they're probably going to be walking around today over in berea we might be able to get them on and
02:33hear about them and all that other stuff uh that pointed out spent spencer fano
02:40this is andrew it's it both are andrew berry now but both are andrew berry uh andrew wasn't around
02:48to take cory coleman before but you've taken three first round wide receivers since 1999 the two before
02:57are braylon edwards and cory coleman all right so then you bring in casey concepcion who a guy who had
03:04seven drop passes 19 overall i know matt harman or reception perception reception
03:10perception uh loves him absolutely loves him thinks he could be the steal of the draft that
03:14guy knows a hell of a lot more about wide receivers than i do but when i hear about guys
03:17who have
03:18problems catching the ball and they're they're called wide receivers like if you stuck me at
03:23wide receiver and they're like ken you can't catch the ball it's like well i'm not a wide receiver
03:27you your name's wide receiver you should be able to receive the ball like that's always been
03:31i saw opinions i saw opinions all over the board so on him i saw i saw some say he
03:37was the eighth
03:37best receiver in this draft i saw others say it's a total steal by the grounds i'll tell you what
03:41i
03:41would have done i i would have moved up and tried to take mckay lemon i mean he was there
03:45you could
03:45have done it and of course it was because roseman moved up and i know that the whole will play
03:51the
03:51audio i think from ian rapaport where the the steelers were on the phone with kc concepcion and then
03:59the eagles moved up and took kc concepcion because the steelers thought that they were going to fall to
04:04him they were going to take him apparently uh more on that coming up later on but i know we
04:08don't care
04:08about the steelers right now we care about the cleveland browns so hearing from k hearing of kc
04:14concepcion you know he's a guy they're going to put on the outside right to start todd munkin was very
04:19clear about that yesterday uh when we interviewed him he was clear about that uh in the uh in the
04:24draft process they're going to put him on the outside that's where he's going to start
04:28uh this is a guy who again if he holds on to the ball he could be brilliant but i
04:36think a lot of
04:36fans are saying 5 11 and you have problems with drops sorry you're gonna have to prove yourself
04:42the other pick with spencer fauno
04:47i asked on social media it was nothing but jed wills and i'm going okay because he was a right
04:53tackle
04:53you're going to put him over it left he's going to start day one todd was very clear about that
04:57right
04:58after the pick because he went down and he got on the podium and so when you take a guy
05:01who's not
05:02a classic left tackle i mean sorry you still have the same general manager there you're gonna have
05:07to prove it you're just gonna have to prove it he's gonna have to prove it for andrew barry in
05:11the front office and they're gonna have to prove that these guys were worthwhile and if they're not
05:15worthwhile they can't help win football games this is it this is all this is it you are a draft
05:19by draft
05:19front office now you are a draft by draft general manager now and there's guys who like if howie
05:25roseman turns in a turd this year he gets a little bit of leeway he gets a little bit of
05:30latitude
05:30because it's howie roseman less need would be the same way with the rams you know they took ty
05:34simpson he's gonna sit until matt stafford's done playing you get a little bit of currency there
05:40andrew hasn't built the currency again so you you stayed and jimmy hasn't basically made this clear
05:45that you stayed because of last year's draft all right well you're gonna have to go and have this
05:50year's draft so you're gonna have to prove to everybody that these guys are right this is a lot
05:55of smelling yourself within this draft fano is a fine player and i think he's going to be solid
06:02but i can't talk anybody into that because he's going from right to left and they have long memories
06:07casey concepcion i i i'm gonna be worried about until i until i'm feeling better i'm sorry he's a
06:12good young man but i'm gonna feel i'm gonna be worried about until until he does things on the
06:16field i'm they're cleveland broads i'm gonna root for him but obviously i'm nervous so as far as fano
06:23i thought that yes so many people so much was made about you know playing right tackle about the
06:29small arms you know the the short arms i should say i but the more and more i kind of
06:35looked and
06:35tried to uncover anything i could even before the draft because i thought you know he was obviously
06:40in play it just seemed like a really good character dude who could have played left tackle certainly
06:46could have and they touched on that obviously in the press conference yesterday and they were adamant
06:51about that and he was adamant about that you know right off the bat so i liked that part of
06:56it i
06:56just kind of thought he was a lower ceiling guy but a higher floor yeah and maybe that was in
07:02this
07:02draft maybe that made sense you know why gamble on a project why gamble on somebody totally like that
07:08in their situation when they're they're pushing all their assets that they could think about now this
07:13free agency and that your number six overall pick that you know ended up number nine
07:18you pushed all the chips in the middle on offensive line you really did he's the first offensive lineman
07:24off the board so it wasn't like it was when you took jedrick wills where there were other guys that
07:29were taken off the board and it really became between him and tristan worse so we obviously know
07:33uh who ended up being the better pick out of those two he's the first one off the board like
07:38so
07:38someone asked yesterday did you feel you got the best offensive lineman yeah i think i think they would
07:44think so he was the first one off the board so now it's they changed their mind at the last
07:48second
07:48that was a bizarre question i heard i go like we were looking at each other going what um this
07:53is on
07:54them and give him credit for extracting value that was the one thing i think andrew berry does a really
07:58good job of yeah repeatedly is that if he because there's a risk right oh we're trading from six to
08:05nine what if the guy we wanted what if somebody surprised us uh do you think by the way i
08:10just i just
08:11want to know because it's helter skelter and you never know wait 216-474-0092 let her rip go ahead
08:17did the did do you think the carnell tate thing did that was that at all them yeah i don't
08:25think so
08:25i don't think so i think we want to carnell i want to carnell tate i know nathan wanted carnell
08:30tate
08:30you came around on carnell tate uh throughout the draft process you were later to arrive the picks and
08:36certainly i was uh but when he was off the board at four to the tennessee titans you know i
08:43wasn't
08:44moving up for carnell tate i wasn't doing that so i i guess i felt better because if you would
08:51have
08:51just passed on carnell tate like where do you think oh god where do you think the browns had
08:56carnell tate in terms of a was he their number one wide receiver had to have been okay well i
09:02mean
09:02there's there seems to be some debate about a lot of these positions that you know it's tough it's
09:07tough in a draft where people were not sensing huge gaps between these position groups he i i imagine
09:15he was andrew's number one wide receiver but i don't think that he was going to take i i really
09:20don't think he would have taken him at six because the reason i don't think he would have taken carnell
09:23tate has a chance to be a number one on a team conception playing slot and using him in gimmicks
09:30and
09:30punt return he's not a number one he doesn't really have a shot to be a number one and you
09:34already have a smaller wide receiver you know your jerry judy conception they're not going to scare
09:40a lot of teams maybe maybe with uh hopefully the speed element of this is good we talk all the
09:46time
09:46about speed but you don't have a contested catch guy that has size or anything like that no but the
09:55guy
09:56you were going to have to get the get size was going to be denzel boston and plenty of other
10:02teams were passing on denzel boston yeah his speed and and did not have that twitchiness to get off
10:07the line or anything like that they were going to go that's not who he is they were going to
10:10go
10:10classic you know build inside out which i i gotta tell you i was surprised uh they were going to
10:16go
10:16classic inside out but of course it was going to be inside out but there's going to be some
10:20versatility there quote unquote and then they were going to go with fast twitch weaponry type
10:26of player well denzel boston's not that guy he's a bigger body guy uh they were going to go with
10:31casey conception who they can they can split out wide they can bring in on a on a screen uh
10:36you can
10:37get rid of the ball quickly get some people out in front of him see if he can make plays
10:41with his feet
10:42you know they bring up the punt return stuff i'm not trying to just take a punt returner
10:45uh in the first round i i understand that there was a couple of legends that have been taken in
10:50the first round there but his main objective is going to be to be a wide receiver for us
10:56yeah it's so weird because i there's nothing wrong with the kid off the field and then you hear him
11:03like great kid you hear how you hear how dedicated he is the the the the letter he wrote in
11:08the
11:08player's tribune yeah and i don't want to overcoming the speech impediment yeah i don't want to go
11:13ripping on the guy and i don't the fano he becomes emotional when you ask him about joe thomas working
11:20with oh he had to love that and looking forward to the challenge of sharpening iron every day
11:24against miles garrett like you're saying all the right things so i don't want to sit here and rip on
11:28them as as guys it's just i would if carnell tate would have been there i would have taken carnell
11:35tate carnell tate wasn't there i was still thinking maybe either trade down which he did or wide receiver
11:40there at number six or number nine that's what i was still thinking about okay so spencer fauno
11:46hopefully becomes an anchor for your football team i mean we hope all this stuff it's it's interesting
11:52because i think there's things that if they would have taken a couple other guys i would have had a
11:56much more damning opinion against or for but they ended up taking spencer fauno they ended up taking
12:02casey concepcion it i just think casey concepcion is going to be a gamble i think he's more of a
12:06gamble
12:07than spencer fauno i do uh i also will forever wonder had jordan tyson not have been taken by
12:15the saints like i'll just never know what the browns were thinking about wide receiver
12:19in this draft and that's another inflection point because i guess i look at it like concepcion might
12:26end up being a really solid a really solid guy that opens up the offense and and add some versatility
12:32based on you know the different types of ways they can line him up yeah but like i said he's
12:37not
12:37going to ever be a number one i don't think and so my question is how are the browns getting
12:42that guy
12:44and we always talk about trying to help the quarterbacks were they just punting for a year
12:49you know we always think hey if you get if you have the quarterback on your roster then you have
12:54to go
12:54get that number one you notice mean they don't truly think they have the quarterback on the roster
12:58i don't i i think that that that how could you say they do they think they do let's be
13:05honest here
13:06how could like how do you think they they could say they do you're at 24 um when they take
13:13when they
13:14take uh casey concepcion there were teams that wanted to move in i think that they wanted a weapon
13:20i don't know if they wanted to move into 24 because you saw at the back end of the draft
13:23like there was
13:24plenty of movement going on at the back end of the draft and then they weren't walking back down the
13:28hallway so we were wondering whether or not they were getting on the phones to try to move back
13:33into the draft because they had picked number 39 they acquired that number that third round pick
13:36but go back to that like there were people were upset at the value and we're going yeah because
13:41they're not going to give you what they would in a normal year like that was not tremendous value
13:45the trade that they made with kansas city by the chart yeah by the chart it was not tremendous value
13:50and i think it showed like listen they're all if there's any team that's going to follow the charts
13:56it's going to be the cleveland browns so they knew that they were going to be getting tremendous
14:01normal value in this type of draft to make this selection to go up from from nine to six with
14:08with
14:08the kansas city chiefs so they get that extra they get that extra pick going into tonight the third round
14:14pick we'll see what they try to do to get another one but i i think that they felt that
14:19they were
14:19probably stuck at 24 i'm guessing that's a guess right now and that they were going to take casey
14:25concepcion to take this is the guy who possibly gives us the highest ceiling but you know if he
14:31can't catch the damn ball we're going to be pretty upset well i think we're going to be looking back
14:35at the eagles aggressive move could that have been the browns could that have been the browns if you
14:41were that high on jordan tyson that's the one we have to watch that's well i i think the one
14:46where
14:46they move where you have moving up people moving up to take mckay lemon i think that that's the one
14:51that
14:52we have to what the eagles move to take mckay lemon that's the one that i i'm paying attention
14:55i'm sorry lemon yes going into okay i said tyson i meant lemon for a second i'm going did i
15:00miss
15:00something for a second because i'm i'm on 90 minutes sleep so you are too yeah you were working last
15:05night as well so this is the no sleep show for us um with lemon that's the one that we're
15:09going
15:10to be watching because i if you're not if you're not getting great value from kansas city you could
15:15have not paid a whole lot to go up and go get mckay lemon if you wanted to so let
15:21that be there
15:21for the record the guy you watched this year is mckay lemon as compared to casey concepcion and
15:28hopefully we come out on top when it comes to that player by player comparison 216-474-0092 i want
15:34to
15:34get to you guys on this were they good picks were they not good picks uh andrew berry are you
15:39are you
15:39loving them are you mad at them i i didn't see a lot of people who love the picks i
15:43saw some people who
15:44were saying okay maybe a little bit solid and then obviously we we i saw a lot of people were
15:48pretty negative on it i want to see what the temperature is this morning as we're going 12
15:52hours past uh from when those picks were made mid-morning here today