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00:00You're sure that humans will no longer be in control in 10 years' time?
00:03I think it is unlikely, in the same way that if you had a vastly more...
00:11Like, you know, if the difference in intelligence between AI and humans
00:21is vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between AI and chimpanzees,
00:26it's hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge.
00:30The most immediate thing that we could do is to have the leading AI companies
00:35at least just meet or have some sort of call once every few weeks
00:41and just discuss any safety and security issues.
00:48But why haven't you done that yet?
00:50I mean, you don't all like each other very much.
00:51Yeah, but you're not all...
00:53I mean, you're also all competing, right?
00:55You all want to be first.
00:57Yes, but that's where I think the competitors can keep each other honest.
01:04So meaning, like, I think it's quite difficult for someone in the government
01:08who doesn't have a deep technical understanding
01:10and isn't driving the frontier of AI
01:13to know whether something should be released or not.