00:00How big are we in the European Union? Who will listen to us? We will lose identity.
00:06I think membership of the EU would be very beneficial for us.
00:09I would say the game for Iceland.
00:13I think Iceland is part of Europe.
00:14Joining the EU would be bad for us.
00:18We are a member of the European family.
00:22As far away from Europe, fears, doubts, and a new and incierta geopolítica international situation,
00:32Iceland decides what relationship to have with the European Union.
00:36Within or outside, we are looking at pros and contras in Euronews Investigates.
01:05For the first time, our exploration is entrenched in the tormented geological of the island.
01:12In just a year, this immersive exhibition has attracted 150.000 visitors.
01:23Christian is his director general.
01:26When you live on a volcano in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean,
01:29our ancestors, yeah, I would say they were probably totally mental.
01:34I mean, they lived here knowing all this, knowing that it was easier somewhere else.
01:38You get used to the weather, you get used to the earthquakes,
01:41to the volcanoes happening every five years, on average.
01:45I was brought up that you should just, like, a little bit survive on your own.
01:49In the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
01:51In the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
01:54In the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
01:56Unos 400.000 islandeses viven sobre una herida tectónica abierta entre los continentes europeo y americano.
02:03Estas geografías y geología extremas han forjado aquí un fuerte sentimiento de pertenencia.
02:09To be self-sufficient.
02:12I think that should be gold for every nation.
02:15We are European.
02:16That's what we are.
02:18Even if the majority of our export is in US dollars.
02:22Of course.
02:23Of course.
02:25So.
02:26So.
02:26So.
02:26You can see it.
02:27Yes.
02:30So.
02:31Der Spazio Económico Europeo, der Merkado Único und der Spazio Schengen.
02:34Der Land vota in Referendum.
02:36El 29 de agosto se reanuda las negociaciones
02:39y adhesión a la Unión Europea, suspendidas desde 2013.
02:43Ein Paseo entre terrazas veraniegas
02:45demuestra lo polarizada que está la sociedad islandesa.
03:01Also, we're getting kind of pressured to join but there's no reason.
03:06They say they're gonna help us but they never help us.
03:09The best way to be, we close the borders, we stop with the European Union and we just get Iceland
03:17again.
03:17I think it's give and take, it's like, we have more to lose but we have, sadly, not much to
03:23gain.
03:23Where is the gift? What do we gain?
03:25There's a lot of things.
03:25We lose our rights, we lose our language, we lose our coins.
03:30What do we gain?
03:33We have such a little market, so for us, the opportunity to gain closer connection to Europe,
03:43I think it's a benefit for us, so yeah, I'm for the European Union.
03:50It's obvious for me to, like, if you want to be a part of Europe, you have to be a
03:54part of the whole.
03:55You cannot just, like, cherry-pick the stuff you want and ask for help when you want.
03:59I think the options are way better than the, like, downsides of joining the European Union, and, for example, like,
04:07when you think about other countries in the European Union, you would never think that they would, like, at any
04:13point lose their sovereignty.
04:18The sector of fishing and agriculture and agriculture are focused on the euro-séptical concerns.
04:25The refusal of the EU in rural areas reaches 80 percent, according to some of the sondes.
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06:09Für die letzten 30 Jahre hier in Iceland,
06:11ich fühle mich, dass wir in gut Formen sind.
06:14Und die Uncertainheit mit der Europäischen Union und der Kommunikation
06:19wäre schlecht für uns.
06:22Die Farmer sind die Hintergrund der sozialen Gesellschaften,
06:26die Gemeinschaften.
06:27Und wenn wir unsere konventionelle Art von Farmen
06:34und ich bin froh, dass viele Gemeinschaften rurale
06:38werden von diesem.
06:46Die Gefäts in der Ruralen sind die Kontrolle von Tierarbeidungen.
06:51Nur ein paar von 200 Tierarbeidungen
06:54betrachten von der Wunderschöne Organisationen
06:57für Tierarbeidungen sind hier endämisch.
06:59Die Aperture der Fronten des Merkado Único für Anwaltes-Vivos
07:04wird in den ganzen Sektor gefährdet,
07:06sagt dieser Antiguo Ganadero und Inspektor Agrícola,
07:09militant aktiv gegen die plene Adhösung der EU.
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09:02Concluimos la entrevista y un restaurador de barcos se une a la conversación
09:24Ahora Carpintero, antes era pescador, vivió más de una década en Dinamarca
09:32The argument I hear is that we will have a more stable society, a stable economy
09:39Okay, we have all, through all the ages, our economy has gone up and gone down and up and down
09:44and up and down
09:45And we have just had to live with that
09:47I cannot believe that we will be feeling good in under or in that complex party that is the European
10:00Union
10:00We will feel suffocation, I guess
10:06Alrededor del 75% de la legislación islandesa ya se ajusta a las normativas europeas en los ámbitos social, medioambiental
10:15o económico
10:16Por ejemplo, es más que suficiente, afirma el fundador del principal grupo euroscéptico del país
10:21Profesor de física atmosférica en la Universidad de Islandia
10:25Many laws that are created in the European Union, they may be quite good for Iceland
10:34But all the laws are based on the interests and the needs of the big countries in continental Europe
10:42And not the needs of Iceland
10:45The economy of Iceland is based on natural resources
10:49It's not highly industrialised in the same manner as in Central Europe
10:54And to some extent the culture is also different
10:58There is, for instance, no military tradition in Iceland whatsoever
11:03Apart from this, of course, it's going to be very, very costly to be a member of the European Union
11:10for Iceland
11:11There will be a constant flow of money from Iceland to Europe
11:16El movimiento euroscéptico florece, además, en torno al temor de que una adhesión plena
11:22Hará perder aún más control en fronteras y políticas de inmigración y socavará soberanía
11:29Escuchemos, por ejemplo, a este taxista
11:52Sin embargo, incluso él reconoce que el país se enfrenta a desafíos económicos de su propia creación
11:58Sin soluciones claras a la vista
12:19La estabilidad económica es, de hecho, uno de los pilares fundamentales para los defensores de la causa europeísta
12:25La moneda nacional, la corona, ha sido históricamente propensa a sufrir devaluación
12:31Con un enorme impacto económico, incluida una elevada inflación
12:35Aquí, los tipos de interés son aproximadamente tres veces más altos que los fijados por el Banco Central Europeo
12:42Una plena adhesión a la UE y la adopción del euro garantizarían estabilidad económica para generaciones venideras
12:50Afirma este diputado de origen polaco al frente de la Comisión de Asuntos Exteriores del Parlamento
12:59Es fácil aclarar que Isla sería una parada de renta
13:02En cuanto a la Unión Europea
13:05Pero, en los números, creo que en los estandos son considerados
13:09En el Krono Islán, eso significa 10 o 15 miliómetros cada año
13:15Solo los salarios para las casas, cuando se trata a las rentas bajas
13:18A la renta de interés, podría ser salvo a los consumidores de los estandos 100 miliómetros cada año
13:32Pero incluso en este punto, los expertos parecen discrepar
13:36Erna es economista y trabaja como asesora independiente
13:40La economía de Islandia es tan particular
13:42Que aventurar qué es mejor o peor resulta una tarea sumamente difícil, afirma
13:48Nosotros estamos subiendo a todas las distintas shockas para la economía
13:52Que los países en la Eurozona o la EU
13:55Como los pescadores de pescadores, a veces hay bajos
14:00En ciertas especies que son económicamente importantes
14:04Y también tenemos shockas de desastres naturales como los estandos y los volcános
14:24Más allá de la economía, las nuevas realidades geopolíticas internacionales
14:28Están influyendo considerablemente en el debate
14:31Los conflictos en Ucrania y Oriente Medio
14:34Junto con mensajes contradictorios de la administración estadounidense
14:38Han generado una creciente sensación de excesivo aislamiento
14:42Este profesor universitario de ciencias políticas
14:45Preside una plataforma que aboga por estrechar vínculos con la Unión Europea
14:50Sostiene que desde un punto de vista estratégico
14:54Islandia no puede permitirse permanecer tan aislada
14:57En un escenario mundial cada vez más inestable
15:01We see the United States, our main ally
15:04Making threats against our sovereign neighbor, Greenland
15:09Against Denmark, which is a solid NATO ally
15:13Against Canada
15:15Can we still rely on the United States?
15:18So this variable has come in
15:20To join the European Union for security reasons
15:23National security means a lot of other things
15:26Than just like defending against a full-scale invasion
15:29Today we see that security threats are much more subtle
15:33We are under constant attack by Russian bots
15:38And Russian misinformation
15:39And all sorts of actors that are trying to influence our infrastructure
15:47Attacking our websites, attacking our energy infrastructure
15:52And they need to be secured
15:58So there's a lot of things that the European Union can help with in that respect
16:06La Unión Europea, de hecho, considera a Islandia como un activo estratégico y democrático
16:12Pero lo cierto es que, aunque sujeto a y alineado con numerosas políticas de la UE
16:18El país permanece fuera de las instituciones comunitarias
16:21Perdiendo así influencia en la toma de decisiones
16:24Esta diputada pertenece a la Alianza Socialdemócrata
16:28Cuya lideresa es la actual primera ministra
16:31La postura inequívocamente europeísta del actual gobierno
16:35Es la mejor forma de defender los intereses del país, afirma
16:41We have zero influence now
16:44Having a seat at the table
16:46That would be a dramatic change for the Icelandic public
16:49Where we have political representation
16:51To fight for Icelandic interests
16:53And nobody fights for Iceland except Iceland
16:56This has to do with inner market issues
16:58This has to do with energy, environmental issues
17:01Such as in cross-border flights
17:03Where the special needs of islands
17:07That are far away from the mainland of Europe
17:09Such as the Canary Islands
17:11Just to name an example
17:12We see that their interests are being defended
17:15By Spain, for example
17:17These interests aren't being secured by Icelandic officials
17:22Más allá de las instituciones políticas
17:24El debate ha calado en el tejido socioeconómico islandés
17:28Con conclusiones abiertamente antagónicas
17:31Fundada en 1994 y con 62 empleados
17:35Esta empresa facturó el año pasado casi 25 millones de euros
17:39Comercializando productos químicos de lubricación
17:42Y recambios para automóviles
17:44La mayor parte de sus importaciones procede de Europa
17:47El negocio marcha bien tal y como está
17:50Y no es necesaria una mayor integración en la UE
17:53Afirma su director ejecutivo
17:57The current situation is quite sufficient
17:59And I've been in this trade for over 30 years
18:03And it has slowly gotten better year by year
18:07Iceland in 2016
18:09We put all tariffs aside
18:12So we have zero tariffs between Europe and Iceland today
18:15Except on few food products
18:17So importing products from Europe, Asia or the US
18:21It's quite easy and quite transparent
18:31En el otro extremo del espectro
18:33Nos reunimos con una empresaria
18:35Fervientemente pro-europea
18:38Elga ha vivido en los Países Bajos y en Brasil
18:42Es fundadora y directora de una agencia de viajes
18:45Que atrae turistas a Islandia
18:47El país, afirma, necesita abrirse más
18:50Para poder prosperar
18:52We are a new democracy
18:53We have only been here since 1944
18:56As fully independent
18:57And I get it that people are skeptical
19:00But we are so much in the EU already
19:02With the EEA
19:03So I think, you know, why not look at
19:05How beneficial it could be for us
19:07To be fully in it
19:09With all the benefits
19:10And also, the EU is not perfect
19:12But Iceland is not perfect either
19:14As it is now
19:15I think mainly, you know, in the housing
19:17The loan, the corona
19:18In the interest rates
19:19All of these things is really weird
19:20How we have it here
19:21I think it's not very good
19:24For the young people of this country
19:26If we're going to continue this path
19:28I think we need to look at other options
19:30How we can make their lives better
19:33We cannot isolate ourselves again
19:35I don't think that's going to be possible
19:36In the future
19:37Una integración completa
19:40En la Unión Europea
19:41O status quo
19:42La isla volcánica
19:44Se asienta sobre fuerzas sociopolíticas
19:46Además de tecnónicas
19:48Muy activas
19:49Que moldean incansablemente
19:51Su futuro
19:56resembensa a una poziom Marc
19:57ScriptGraveto
19:57O put-il
19:57Aạnís
19:58En la Unión Europea
19:58En la Unión Europea
19:58Entonces, la Envolución
