00:00Maybe this is actually the pinnacle, you know, this is the apex of when we managed to get road safety
00:04deaths down to a level we can be pleased with, but maybe, as Felicity suggests, the cars are getting bigger,
00:09and also this other issue of phones being distracting.
00:12Every new car, pretty much now, has an enormous sort of iPad-sized screen in the middle of it, which
00:18is constantly distracting you, and yes, it's technically hands-free, but, you know, you're constantly being asked to tell Google
00:25if there's a police car there, or to skip forward the next track on Spotify, or whatever the distraction is.
00:30Yeah, but it's interesting what you say about the peak, because we mentioned that the US is kind of an
00:35outlier in this story, and the fatalities actually rose and peaked in 2021, unlike in other high-income countries, exactly
00:43because of what you and Felicity have been saying, because of taller and bigger cars, and people looking at their
00:49phones.
00:50So that was, I thought, really interesting that the US was a real particular outlier in that.
00:55And also, most states, they don't have laws stopping you holding the phone still, do you? So that's still an
00:59issue there, too.
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