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The Patriots take on the Philadelphia Eagles tomorrow night at Gillette Stadium and the guys preview the game.
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00:00and as we look forward to tomorrow night's preseason game between your new england patriots
00:05and the philadelphia eagles which i don't understand josh mcdaniel's hesitancy to say
00:11whether or not drake may is playing or not yeah well that's not his job he doesn't want to you
00:17know that's that's the head coach's job rich you know you don't want to i think that's why he because
00:22he's he's not at liberty to i just think bravo would be like dude why are you you know that's
00:26not your job to say anything so that's that's my take on it what do you think it makes sense
00:30to
00:31as good it's hard to believe they wouldn't have a plan by today right they would yeah you think you
00:36know do you think it's more likely he plays in this game if he didn't play in the first game
00:40i don't
00:40think he would play in the second game yes you know i remember yeah when it was four games the
00:45third
00:45game was always the one that you got the you got the quarterback right the starter but with the three
00:49how they do it now are they playing the third one i forget it's like unusually when does he go
00:54out
00:54there it's honestly changing and you hear these reports are going to go down to two preseason
00:58games which makes sense and then maybe they'll mandate these joint practices but it's very weird
01:03you know you had like saquon barkley talking about how much he hates the joint practices but then again
01:07he's like a veteran guy who doesn't need to make teams it's the whole nfl preseason is a mess i
01:13i think
01:14rich there's every team does it differently there's no kind of say it used to be there's four preseason games
01:19you play uh starters play the first you know quarter uh or a couple series in the first preseason
01:25game then they bump it up to you know a quarter and a half and then the third preseason game
01:29you
01:30play uh the first series into the second half and in the fourth preseason game you don't play out
01:35guys at all now i mean there's team guy teams that don't even play their starters at all in preseason
01:40and because they're doing more of these joint practices so my guess is you will not see
01:46uh drake may at all in tomorrow night's game well jackson dart got jacked up in that preseason game
01:51you got hit in the didn't he get it like concussed i think they had to sit out for that
01:55wasn't that
01:55what they were saying i don't know about that but i mean well i'm sure we'll get a lot of
01:59tommy
02:00devito and by the way we're gonna get some tommy devito monday on patriots monday we're gonna like
02:03that i'm gonna get to talk to tommy okay what is his name two chains two chains yeah yeah more
02:07tommy
02:08cutlets yeah i i hey real quick just uh i know we're going back but what did you guys think
02:12of his
02:12performance in that first preseason game he started awful he missed a couple throws early
02:17and then he started to hit hit a couple you know as kyle williams had the big catch down the
02:22field
02:22he looked okay it was odd because he had a couple a few plays in a row where you're like
02:26okay boom boom
02:27boom boom and you comebacks and then there's like dude that was a terrible throw so i don't know i
02:32think
02:33all in all i think he's gonna be uh a more than serviceable backup i don't think he's you know
02:38a guy
02:38that you you don't kind of you know just start looking for his replacement i think i think he's
02:43gonna be okay but there were a few plays that i was kind of like hmm what was that about
02:47but i i think
02:48he's performed well uh in this camp and in these joint practices rich yeah what do you think about
02:53what actually jackson do you have the saquon barkley clip because i thought this was interesting when he
02:58was asked about joint practices and and kind of how you know the the whole view on the preseason
03:05seems to be changing as you were just mentioning when it comes to star players jackson if you could
03:09play that saquon barkley clip if you wouldn't mind this is just from i believe it was either earlier
03:14today or yesterday when he was asked about this down at gillette i hate joint practice to be honest
03:19um i think one day is good but uh you know you know we we play in a ego ego
03:25field sport uh with a lot
03:27of men and it can i'm all about just putting the work in it's good to go against someone new
03:32uh i think
03:33we're definitely we're at that part of camp where we needed to go against a new face honestly i'm not
03:37really a fan of joint practice more times than not nothing good comes out of it like you get to
03:41when you have the work it's good but then you get to push in to shove in and you're someone
03:46say this
03:46about you and i'm like i don't know but i'm not that you're this and just like it's it's immature
03:50when we get to that level i gotta do a better job too because i'm a little a little troublemaker
03:55sometimes but i was good i was good this week a little troublemaker i like that um you know why
04:00he
04:00says one day is good because what happens is you know you somebody gets you uh pretty good in that
04:06first one and then they want to retaliate in the second one so you you know the coaches are all
04:11night they're looking at film like oh okay you're gonna let this guy chump you okay all right you
04:15know and then so you see more fights in that second one so i do think probably having if you're
04:20going to
04:20do this just one is is probably better but um you never you get used to practicing against your guys
04:26you kind of take care of each other in practice where these joint practices it's survival that you
04:32don't know the guy that you're playing across what his you know intention is you assume he's there to
04:37kill knock your head off so it just raises the stakes and i think there's more opportunities to
04:42maybe somebody to get hurt in joint practice especially if there's two back-to-back well marcus
04:47spears was on espn today and he said he used to pick a guy on the other team and they
04:51would fake a
04:51fight so they would end the practice early like like that it's like guys are trying to like outsmart
04:57the system that's smart actually but if i was a coach i would i would love it i would you
05:02know why
05:02how else are you going to figure out who who is playing well you got your best against their best
05:07you know why wouldn't you love these joint practices i mean i guess you don't want somebody
05:11to get hurt like you're saying yeah but i mean but listen i mean football's a dangerous sport you're
05:16either going to get hurt there you're going to get hurt later on i just know that that jackson dart
05:20thing i mentioned by the way um he ended up getting put in the tent after a hard hit that
05:24he got from uh the safety from the vikings but he ended up going in back in the game but
05:28they
05:29checked him for a concussion but yeah i mean you never know i mean listen you gotta but he's a
05:33young quarterback so you gotta put him out there the whole thing with drake listen who cares i don't
05:36really care if he plays in the preseason nobody cares i don't think i think we're all just selfishly
05:41would love to see him sling it out there with aj brown but i think we're just gonna have to
05:45wait now
05:45is christian gonzalez going to be on the field with them when week one starts as we continue to
05:51count down and i and i did hear uh devin mccourney uh talking about how it's he believes it's going
05:57to get done but it's just all in the language but the language is important like the language is the
06:02money you know okay i heard him say yeah it's pretty much good it's just the it's just the way
06:06that
06:07it's written it's the language i mean that's literally the contract it could mean whether or not
06:13he gets like half the amount of guaranteed money that he wants or whether he ends up getting some
06:18closets thrown in there where he you know doesn't get anything if he's not on the field for a certain
06:23number of games it's everything at this point and that's obviously what they're fighting over well
06:27rich i'm confused too by the upfront money like ted was saying yesterday about it's about that first
06:31two-year money like what the number you hear is not all guaranteed well then why even say it's
06:36guaranteed if it's not guaranteed and do the crafts ever do first two-year money do they ever do that
06:41no um why do they say guaranteed it makes the agent look really good that's that's they they
06:48want the the agent wants those numbers out there because it makes him look really really good if
06:54those numbers are uh you know out there and i even though they're misrepresented no one knows that
06:59you know it's like if they are guaranteed if but they don't put the if you're on the team weeks
07:04you
07:04know years three and four you know it's so it's very misleading when they say fully guaranteed and
07:09current yesterday trying to make the case that uh you know witherspoon's as good as gonzalez that
07:14worries me that that's the way the organization feels about it and if if ted's right rich and they
07:19don't do you know front-loaded contracts i don't think this is getting done i just don't i mean we
07:25have a lot of time left we do have two two and a half weeks but didn't you think when
07:28witherspoon
07:28got done over the weekend this would be done sooner you know if it's going to get done it was
07:32going
07:32to get done late in the week yeah at latest i mean i thought i thought you'd be looking at
07:37like a week
07:37yeah right like after that was done the framework is there you know what the market is you know what
07:41they're going to pay and and to ted's point gonzalez is worth more just because he doesn't have this
07:47massive defensive front in front of him like christian gonzalez is doing way more work on this
07:51patriots team to hold it down than witherspoon is doing for seattle so he matter of fact pff just had
07:58a ranking of all the secondaries in football i'd be showing the patriots that oh by the way they
08:02the patriots were number one number one of all 32 teams but i bet you i i know that you
08:07guys think
08:07that they're going to turn on gonzalez i don't believe that this agent's going rogue and asking
08:12for a zillion dollars more than witherspoon got it's the same agent for two guys in the same position
08:17who are fairly comparable i don't they don't if it if the contract doesn't get done rich i guarantee
08:23somebody aka our guy adam schefter is going to leak out what exactly the team is what the player is
08:29asking
08:30for yeah and and how egregious the ask was don't you think that's i mean they're already kind of
08:35leaks out there i mean bedard yeah um you know i think uh burt breer a little bit to some
08:40degree
08:40right they haven't called adam yet they go in low level and then when they really want to get the
08:43numbers out there they call schefter and he puts it right out yeah and adam's gonna say that i mean
08:49because i'm i guarantee you it right now as i said if we had to choose between whether you think
08:54that this agent of christian gonzalez is going rogue and going way asking for way over market
08:59or if the patriots are being cheap i'm gonna go patriots are being cheap every time because one's
09:05got a big pretty good track record of it you know the numbers say they are cheap if they are
09:09offering
09:10him the witherspoon deal basically like somewhere very close to that or maybe slightly higher if you're
09:15gonzalez should you take that would you take that yeah or do you hold out for a significant bump
09:20because you think you're that much better i mean it would have to be front-loaded like his what i
09:24mean you're talking would have to be similar if they offered him let's say they offered him the
09:27exact same deal but then they threw in five million extra that you know over the the span of it
09:33which
09:33is kind of what they're looking at yes you take that deal that's what the market dictates take it and
09:38run and and go from whatever you're making now to 34 million a year whatever that ends up working out
09:43to be okay and then if he and if he if he doesn't take it then is he being greedy
09:48it depends on what he's asking for but as i said right now we don't know what he's asking for
09:53and
09:53if i have to just pick out a thin air just from track records whether they're asking for a lot
09:57or
09:58the patriots are being cheap the patriots i'm trying to mousetrap you so when when we get the numbers out
10:03and he doesn't agree to it then you're going to shift to feeling like gonzalez is greedy and that's
10:07yes yes ken if it ends up that he's asking for 60 million a year no not 60 35 36
10:1437 somewhere in
10:15that range with a lot of money 35 is fair like like that's that's five million more than the
10:21current guys are getting i just said that for five million more 31 okay a b a b yeah average
10:28per year
10:29yeah yeah no question