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Leonidas Narváez, gerente de la Empresa Metro, revela que a la obra alcanzó un 81,25% de avance, pero advierte que el tramo restante es el más crítico por la complejidad de la integración tecnológica. En esta entrevista, responde a las alertas por la falta de personal especializado, el trágico accidente laboral y las denuncias por presunta corrupción. Conozca los detalles de los “siete caballos” que deben cruzar el portón de la integración, para que en marzo de 2028 los bogotanos finalmente puedan subirse al primer tren automático del país.
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00:12Welcome to El Espectador interviews. The topic that brings us together today is the Bogotá metro.
00:20the city's main infrastructure project, which could be said to be in its final stages.
00:27The viaduct has a shape, the trains have already gone out to do their first tests, but being a straight line
00:36The final stage also involves a lot of detail and many challenges to reach its operational stage and
00:45to talk about this and several other topics that have made headlines in recent weeks around
00:52On the Bogotá metro, we met with the manager, Leonidas Narváez. Dr. Leonidas, welcome to
01:00Interviews with the viewer, thank you very much Alexander for the invitation to the viewer interview, and well, it was a pleasure.
01:06I'll be with you sharing information about line 1 of the Bogotá metro to begin, doctor.
01:13Leonidas, please give us a quick summary or report of the hourly figures.
01:21This moment of that front line, well, we at the close of July on the front line of
01:30Bogotá metro, we report an 81.25 percent progress, as Alexander said, this 20 percent
01:39Finally, this remaining 19 percent or so is perhaps one of the most challenging parts.
01:46We have many activities in the different components into which the project has been divided
01:54They are therefore executing at a significant pace, that is, the fact of reaching 80 percent in a
02:01a project of this nature and complexity, meeting deadlines and fulfilling coverage requirements and
02:07And financial analysis is very particular; in this world, projects are generally delayed.
02:13Projects generally encounter difficulties; here, difficulties have arisen, but we have been able to mitigate them.
02:19the risks and proactively assess the risks that could arise in the future and we have
02:25Having reached this 80.25 percent, we are very satisfied but also feel a responsibility.
02:31The project is very big; we have divided it into seven components: viaduct component
02:38It's going well, we're at the final part of the viaduct, we have 17 more kilometers of it.
02:45The viaduct is finished; the almost seven kilometers that remain are foundations, capital columns, and
02:54We have eight launching beams; there were eight launching beams for 24 kilometers, now I have eight
03:00Launching beams for seven kilometers and we have no doubt that we will finish the viaduct around the month of
03:06In January of next year, we will continue working very well with the entire structural component.
03:16Complementary works are special works that have been completed; the street of the depressed area was finished.
03:23On 72nd Street, the two vehicular bridges at Primero de Mayo and Carrera 68 were completed, and the other point that
03:30What we didn't miss was the underground tunnel connection between the Jiménez metro station and the Jiménez station.
03:40of
03:40TransMilenio, which already had some underground walkways, now needs to be expanded to connect us with
03:46The Patio Taller metro station is progressing very well; Patio Taller is currently 94% complete.
03:54by
03:55Above the expected percentage, rolling stock systems are also performing very well, and two components
04:04fundamental issues are generating alerts that need to be evaluated as they are the component of
04:12subway stations and buildings and associated with that the systems and equipment component which is very
04:21It's important, but it depends a lot on the completion of the stations; we're reinforcing the passage there and
04:28We are taking joint actions with the oversight body and Metroline 1 for some
04:34deviations that have been occurring and that the oversight body has included in its reports
04:39The oversight, as it should be, generates practically daily alerts about increasing the workforce.
04:49Increase technical staff to increase those yields to meet deadlines; however, the concept
04:57The overall contract is going well and we're on track to reach 80.25 percent completion by the end of July.
05:08It is an expected positive condition; we expect to reach 90 percent in December.
05:16Perfect, folks. That overall discrepancy that the oversight body is alerting us to—so how much is it at that moment, how much should we be?
05:25to be with the work and
05:27These complex works cannot be viewed from a single perspective to determine if their progress is
05:37Good, average, or bad—that concept is for a simpler work.
05:42If the contract stipulates that method, we use software called Primavera P6, which gives us two options.
05:52a
05:52Early scheduling and late scheduling, whichever path the project takes will end up in the
06:00same date, that is, one can
06:02due to the delayed schedule and will finish the construction phase on September 14, 2027 or
06:12due to early scheduling and will end on September 14, 2027
06:18What happens if the late-stage adjustment has been made? Well, it carries impressive risks; the slack is there, eh?
06:27reduced to zero if you go for early programming, there's room for adjustments, uh, things
06:34which is very
06:35convenient and we have come very close to early scheduling today the contract with the 80.25 presents with respect
06:44to the
06:44The late scheduling to talk about the positive aspects should be at 77.04, we're at 81.25 or
06:52whether with respect to the
06:52We have significant coverage in late programming compared to early programming; we should be at 85.31.
07:02There is one at 81.25
07:03a deviation of four points but above the late one we have a surplus of almost four points as well
07:13that is, let's go
07:14We are at the midpoint of the slack, uh, it gives us an alert condition of what
07:20What's happening is happening.
07:21What's happening is associated with stations, systems, and equipment, and that's where we're focusing our attention.
07:29to get closer to that early programming that is defined in the software, but the project, I repeat
07:40goes
07:40It's fine, it's healthy, we're not close to late scheduling and we have capacity and slack.
07:48to get us more in sync and correct those mistakes because we were really stuck to the
07:57Early programming: one of the warnings in recent reports is the lack of specialized personnel in this type of
08:04projects, I mean, uh
08:07They've all been snapped up, huh? What's missing to accelerate that work even more in this final stretch?
08:15where the work requires more detail
08:19The real shortage of personnel is both skilled and unskilled labor; in other words, there needs to be...
08:26The unqualified person is experiencing it.
08:29Our Colombian woman who should reinforce those 16,500 people who are currently working on the project is
08:40a very significant number of people; no single colony project has 16,000 people working, and that resource must
08:50The Metrolínea Uno consortium must convene it to move forward on the part concerning the buildings.
08:57Qualified personnel are more associated with everything related to the assembly of systems, equipment, and communications.
09:06Personnel that must be brought from China or other countries; we have a presence from many countries in the
09:14construction process of the entire metro and that needs to be strengthened and we are
09:23demanding
09:23At the Metrolínea Uno center, the presence of specialized personnel is precisely to carry out that integration; here the word is
09:33integration, and it is integration in the broad field of development, as I was saying, seven components that have been working
09:42Very quickly, it's as if we had seven horses running through a pasture and at the end one has to go through a
09:48gate and each horse very quickly and in a pre-established order
09:53It must pass through a gate; if one horse falls behind, it will hold up the others trying to get through.
09:59The same thing is happening here; we see that in these last 13 months, 12 months that we have left until the 14th of
10:07By September of next year, the integration of all components is fundamental, and that's where qualified and expert personnel are needed.
10:16Those who are not in Colombia should be the protagonists of the work, and that is what we are demanding.
10:23a reinforcement of specialized personnel to carry out that integration of the different components of the project in which case
10:31Any delay could affect the development of the work; anything that is delayed will have an impact.
10:37The development of the work, that's a reality that cannot be denied; that is to say, if something is delayed
10:44The development of the work is currently affected
10:48Important milestones have been achieved, such as the opening of Station 1 in Gibraltar and the ongoing testing.
10:56of the trains, but one finds that there are reservations in some parts of the development, such as compliance with the designs
11:04previously approved
11:06There are some specific concerns regarding, for example, the central nave of Station 3, the reduction without the endorsement of
11:17the oversight of the height of the facade of the administrative building of the workshop courtyard
11:22How are these being corrected? Well, not breaches, but rather the fact that they don't adhere to the rigor of the design.
11:32previously established for the work
11:34Some clarifications need to be made: the designs are being implemented and they must be implemented.
11:44Some observations that may be of a quality or specifications nature that are presented and that are made by the oversight body
11:52in the monthly audit reports
11:56They are the result of an exercise that both the oversight body and the metro company carry out to verify that the project
12:04be executed according to the quality standards established contractually and in the designs
12:11In other words, I cannot say that the designs are not complying; the designs are complying, but there are observations.
12:18with regard to compliance with specifications
12:19that need to be corrected or fulfilled and that we normally verify
12:27I take this opportunity to express, regarding a specific situation, what appears in the audit report.
12:39It's a surprise to us.
12:41For the metro company and the auditing body, logically what appears in the auditing report is a compendium
12:48From the activities we have carried out in the month and that we know there have been observations, deviations, differences
12:57of some dimensions that must be corrected until they are within the parameters of the specification
13:04So I'm glad people are studying the audit report.
13:10I have many people who, when we upload the audit report, read it and it seems as if they are sometimes...
13:19saying
13:20Listen to the audit report, it states that it is an obligation to report those corrections.
13:27All works have elements that need improvement, that need adjusting.
13:33In fact, we have had to demolish columns and capitals because the quality standards in the construction process were not met.
13:41due to some circumstance and cannot be received and we have demolished important elements
13:47two or three columns that have had deviations in material quality or centricity
13:54And the correction must be made, and there is no other correction than demolition.
13:57And that has been recorded in the audit reports.
14:00Then we get to know the audit reports, we participate in the observations
14:05and we rely on the oversight body to ensure that those remaining discrepancies are corrected.
14:14So what has happened with some stations regarding facades or finishes
14:22The correction needs to be made because the most important element we have is
14:28If it doesn't meet the specification, we don't pay for it.
14:32In other words, that execution unit is not received
14:34and it is not received until the intervention
14:38Do not provide the acceptance certificate for the entire execution unit
14:42And that is a guarantee to tell everyone.
14:48that the work we are building and the one we received and paid for today
14:52It is complying with the technical specifications and designs that were not objected to at the beginning of the project
15:02Therefore, all the observations that appear must be corrected.
15:07They need to be adjusted and we need to achieve total project satisfaction
15:13For that purpose, one uses the audit report as a means
15:18And people are like, so they can do that to him.
15:21That's perfect, and my message is
15:24It doesn't surprise me
15:26We are participants in that type of observation
15:29and during the month
15:31We meet every Tuesday morning
15:35with the PMO managers, the oversight body
15:39on Metroline 1 and we
15:42and we have a critical points assessment
15:46of solutions
15:47of decisions that have to be made
15:50to precisely achieve that goal of complying with these specifications
15:54Taking advantage of this point, manager
15:57in one of the audit reports
15:59I think I'll start in March or April.
16:02One of the concerns was the issue of workplace accidents.
16:05workplace safety
16:07very specific cases where the intervention
16:10found employees and security personnel
16:14And it coincides several months later with yesterday's case
16:18of the employee who died at station 8
16:23What has been analyzed in that case?
16:26What can you tell us?
16:27And how will we proceed from here on out?
16:30because I understand it's the first fatal case
16:32in the last 6 years almost
16:35since the work began
16:36Let me say something
16:38I want to express our sadness here.
16:42our condolences
16:43due to the death of this person
16:46to his entire family
16:48to the brother who was at the construction site yesterday
16:51the bride
16:54It truly moves us
16:56and it fills us with sorrow
16:57that accident
16:59every accident
17:00It could have been avoided
17:02and the decisions could have been made
17:06that would not have cost a life
17:09indeed
17:11the first
17:12fatal case
17:13It is not a justification
17:16It's a way of saying
17:18that we will continue on the path
17:20so that everyone
17:22protocols
17:24and activities
17:26and processes
17:28that make up
17:31the development of the work
17:33They must continue to be fulfilled
17:35are
17:37convinced
17:38yes
17:39construction activities
17:41are carried out
17:42in accordance with the processes
17:43as they are established
17:45We mitigate any possibility
17:47of accident
17:48if we leave
17:49of compliance
17:50of the processes
17:51We're going to have difficulties
17:53probably putting at risk
17:54our lives
17:55or the lives of others
17:56so
17:57what happened yesterday
17:59It was an accident
17:59is in process
18:01research
18:02of
18:03of
18:04Why did it happen?
18:05that thing
18:06carrying
18:07to a result
18:09that saddens us
18:10but also
18:11It has to strengthen us
18:13the conviction
18:16that we have to
18:18with the
18:19demand of
18:20Metroline 1
18:21that there is
18:22supervision
18:24strict
18:24so that everyone
18:25the workers
18:26act
18:27and develop
18:27their work
18:28fulfilling
18:29with the
18:30standards
18:31and requirements
18:32security
18:33at work
18:35we don't want
18:37have more
18:38accidents
18:39and today
18:39precisely
18:40in the committee
18:41executive
18:42Tuesdays
18:43It was a topic
18:44that we play
18:45in depth
18:46the fact
18:47about what
18:48These observations
18:49appear
18:50in the reports
18:51of oversight
18:52It is the reflection
18:53of the concern
18:55that we
18:56we maintain
18:57permanently
18:58for compliance
18:59of these specifications
19:00and rules
19:01we came with
19:02some indicators
19:03of accidents
19:04that were
19:05half
19:06of the values
19:07expected
19:09we had
19:10or we have
19:10a report
19:12and supervision
19:14from the banking sector
19:14multilateral
19:15throughout
19:16what it has
19:16what to see
19:17with these
19:19safeguards
19:20social
19:20and that include
19:21to the staff
19:22construction
19:22to avoid
19:25this result
19:26which I repeat
19:28again
19:29we regret
19:30and it saddens us
19:31but also
19:32We are committed
19:33to be
19:34more demanding
19:35and be able to prevent
19:36any new accident
19:38in the process
19:39construction
19:39in case
19:40to be bought
19:42negligence
19:44of the company
19:45from the contractor
19:46What are the implications?
19:47or what effects
19:48Could I have it?
19:50I cannot anticipate
19:53that is to say
19:53we had to look
19:55many elements
19:56and participate
19:57there is an entity
19:58private
19:59independent
20:00what is
20:01the agency
20:02risks
20:02work
20:03which will have
20:04to evaluate
20:04and take
20:05all the
20:05information
20:07that allows
20:08determine
20:09the cause
20:10of the accident
20:11and if there was
20:12responsibilities
20:13third parties
20:15or from the one itself
20:16of the one itself
20:17injured person
20:18for the result
20:20generally
20:22this type
20:23of accidents
20:24is the fact
20:26of a series
20:27of facts
20:29uncontrolled
20:31that carry
20:32to generate
20:33the accident
20:35They are analyses
20:36complex
20:37I don't think so
20:38let it be
20:38product
20:39of a
20:40action
20:41own
20:42of the
20:43worker
20:45and we must
20:46investigate
20:47the whole context
20:48of how it was
20:49working
20:50under what conditions
20:50I worked
20:51which were
20:52the instructions
20:53that were given
20:54how does she get it out
20:55all
20:55And that's a product.
20:57from an investigation
20:57that owes us
20:58lead to look
21:00what kind
21:01of responsibilities
21:01there is
21:02and second
21:03strengthen
21:04all processes
21:05quality
21:07and security
21:09and health
21:09of the work
21:09manager
21:11as well as
21:11It is important
21:12security
21:13at work
21:13It is also the topic
21:15environmental
21:16and in the last
21:17weeks
21:18well
21:19There is a report
21:20Comptroller's Office
21:21what are you doing
21:21a series
21:23of repairs
21:23and it coincides
21:24with a report
21:25a study
21:26that did
21:26the University
21:26National
21:27taking into account
21:28the amount
21:29of material
21:29that moves
21:30the work
21:30talks about
21:31almost 8 million
21:32of tons
21:33of material
21:33and the waste
21:35which could be
21:36usable
21:37of almost 3 million
21:38of tons
21:38in this case
21:40in this respect
21:40how it has come
21:41working
21:42compliance
21:42like
21:43environmental plans
21:44of that
21:46recycling
21:46of material
21:47or waste
21:48construction
21:48and
21:49as
21:50They are going to work
21:51this straight
21:52end of the work
21:54Well
21:54us
21:55in the process
21:56construction
21:57we have
21:59generated
21:59the order
22:00of 2.9 million
22:01of tons
22:02of material
22:03waste
22:04construction
22:05RCD
22:05that have
22:08deposited
22:08in the places
22:09that the city
22:11has
22:11as
22:13deposits
22:14for materials
22:14construction
22:15or products
22:16waste
22:17construction
22:19They are not
22:208 million
22:21I don't know
22:21the report
22:22of the University
22:22National
22:23I have no memory
22:24that they have
22:25consulted
22:26control
22:28that we
22:28have
22:29is in order
22:29of 2.9 million
22:30of tons
22:33we need to look
22:34in time
22:34in what
22:35has occurred
22:36this volume
22:38us
22:38have
22:39more than
22:401800 days
22:41work
22:43in the last
22:446 years
22:45in what
22:46the project
22:47has left
22:47developing
22:48which would give us
22:49a volume
22:50diary
22:50that the city
22:51has seen it
22:52which has been
22:52manageable
22:53an impact
22:54of 2.9 million
22:56of tons
22:56which are
22:572.2 million
22:58of meters
22:58cubic
22:59of material
22:59in 6 months
23:00It would be catastrophic
23:02an earthquake
23:03like the one in Cali
23:04For example
23:06but this
23:07has come
23:07happening
23:08in 6 years
23:09to date
23:10control
23:11recycling
23:12of materials
23:15has been reused
23:16of the order
23:16of 7.5%
23:18And as you were saying
23:19we must arrive
23:19to have
23:21a reuse
23:22of materials
23:22of the order
23:23of 30%
23:25all that they are
23:26concrete
23:27high strength
23:28that they are going to have
23:28the capacity
23:29to endure
23:30the trains
23:31They are not being done
23:32with materials
23:33recycled
23:34They are made with
23:34materials
23:35new
23:35crushed
23:36from the quarry
23:37cements
23:38brand new
23:39But he's coming
23:42an activity
23:43which is all that
23:44It has to do with
23:44with public space
23:46and road infrastructure
23:47everything related
23:48with the roads
23:49surrounding areas
23:50and that make up
23:51the First Major
23:52Villavicencio Avenue
23:53Caracas
23:54that they have to
23:55rehabilitate
23:56the whole part
23:57public space
23:58platforms
23:58that have to be done
23:59And there you have it.
24:01programmed
24:01What are we going to do?
24:02reuse
24:03and comply
24:04with the standard
24:05to reuse
24:07of the order
24:07of 30%
24:08of those materials
24:09and that material
24:10that is not reused
24:11where are they taking him
24:12to which sites
24:13of disposition
24:14They already took them
24:15to the different
24:16sites
24:16from spoil heaps
24:17that the city has
24:18with the permits
24:20suitable
24:20and have been deposited
24:22there
24:22and part
24:23have
24:23in a space
24:26adjacent
24:26to the workshop yard
24:27where there are machines
24:28crushing
24:29and they are adapting
24:31the grain sizes
24:33and the characteristics
24:33from which we go
24:34to reuse
24:35the other thing
24:36has gone
24:37to the spoil heaps
24:38and to the sites
24:38deposit
24:39that are
24:41defined
24:42for the city
24:44the report
24:45Comptroller's Office
24:46I was talking
24:46of some
24:47objections
24:48with the topic
24:48of the management
24:49of drains
24:50what it had to do with
24:51with compensation
24:52forestry
24:52and green areas
24:53earrings
24:54in that plan
24:55environmental management
24:56What is the percentage?
24:58compliance
24:58and how it has
25:01suddenly corrected
25:02some of those situations?
25:03From the point
25:04from a view
25:04of the compensation
25:05environmental
25:06the dealership
25:07has to do
25:07a sowing
25:08of the order
25:08of 5,000 trees
25:10This is compensation.
25:12that is
25:12almost 5 to 1
25:14of the trees
25:15that we had
25:16to cut down
25:17many of those trees
25:19a great
25:19a significant majority
25:21a significant figure
25:22it will be placed
25:24within the same area
25:25of the viaduct
25:25the height of the viaduct
25:27which is 13 meters away
25:28It will allow us
25:29that in the green zone
25:30of the center separator
25:31we can place
25:32an important part
25:34of that compensation
25:35arboreal
25:36what do we have to do
25:36and we are defining
25:39also
25:40with the Secretariat
25:41Environment
25:42to other sites
25:44from Bogotá
25:44where can
25:45to make that recovery
25:46It is important
25:48stand out
25:48that within
25:49of
25:52responsibility
25:53from the dealership
25:54Metroline 1
25:55it is held
25:56the recovery
25:57of 1,300,000
25:59square meters
25:59public space
26:00and
26:01almost 100,000
26:03square meters
26:04new public space
26:05between renovation
26:06and new public space
26:071,400,000
26:09square meters
26:09and throughout the entire route
26:11We have 11 parks
26:13we're going too
26:14to rehabilitate
26:16and in those areas
26:17we're going to do
26:18part of the compensation
26:20environmental
26:21other activity
26:23that is not
26:23within the contract
26:24of Metroline 1
26:25but we are
26:25developing
26:26is the possibility
26:27to become green again
26:29columns
26:30to generate
26:31a garden
26:32and create a protection
26:33green
26:34to the columns
26:35have
26:36at the moment
26:37two pilots
26:38between the station
26:401 and 2
26:40two columns
26:41that already with the support
26:42of the Botanical Garden
26:43we have started
26:44to work
26:44This is not part of it
26:46of the compensation
26:46arboreal
26:47But if it is
26:48a greening
26:50of the columns
26:51so that they can be seen
26:52pretty
26:53to protect them
26:54of shares
26:55vandals
26:56and
26:57look
26:58how much does it cost us
26:59and how
27:00we could
27:01enlarge
27:02this development
27:03of these two
27:04columns
27:05at
27:06934
27:08columns
27:08that has
27:09the project
27:10How much did it cost?
27:11or how much it costs
27:12that plan
27:12handling
27:13environmental
27:13and of
27:14the mistakes
27:15that can
27:16correct
27:16for future
27:18lines
27:19of the subway?
27:20the plan
27:21handling
27:21environmental
27:22It's a responsibility
27:23from the dealership
27:24that does not have
27:25a cost
27:25definite
27:26what is
27:26definite
27:27is
27:28the scope
27:29and
27:30the goals
27:31that has to
27:32achieve
27:32but not
27:33has
27:33within the
27:34contract
27:34a value
27:36unitary
27:36that
27:37manifest
27:38how much
27:38has to
27:39invest
27:39he has
27:40that fulfill
27:40with some
27:41goals
27:41from phase
27:43construction
27:44cleaning
27:45You were talking to me
27:46from the drains
27:46the drains
27:47It is a
27:48activity
27:48maintenance
27:49that has to
27:50do in the
27:50roads
27:51where
27:52we are doing
27:53the work
27:53and those that
27:54they use as
27:55diversion routes
27:56in the phrases
27:57handling
27:57traffic
27:58and the rest
27:59is inside
28:00of the document
28:01that was signed
28:02with the banks
28:03multilateral
28:03with some
28:04demands
28:05including older
28:07at
28:07of the
28:08regulations
28:09legal
28:10which is called
28:11the PEMAS
28:11the management plan
28:12environmental and social
28:14manager
28:15Let's see
28:16the topic
28:16of the latest
28:17weeks
28:17which has generated
28:20news and noise
28:21around
28:21of the contract
28:23And that is the case
28:24of alleged
28:24corruption
28:25that video
28:26that we saw
28:27of a
28:29executive
28:30Chinese
28:31receiving
28:31silver
28:31in cash
28:32I know
28:33that you
28:33they resided
28:34a complaint
28:35and I would like
28:35know
28:37tell us
28:37a bit
28:38details
28:38of that complaint
28:39And what happened?
28:40with her
28:41in these
28:41days
28:44I think
28:45than before
28:46to speak
28:46of the complaint
28:47we need to put
28:47a bit
28:48in context
28:48of what
28:49passed
28:50the network
28:50journalist
28:51from the magazine
28:52week
28:54on Wednesday
28:55former
28:55Saturday
28:56that was published
28:57I think Saturday
28:57It was August 1st
28:58so
28:58the 29th
28:59on Wednesday
29:01They contacted us
29:03so that
29:05we knew
29:05a report
29:06that they were going to take out
29:07about which
29:07I didn't have
29:08no knowledge
29:09former
29:12the sediments
29:13that they put us
29:14in knowledge
29:15It was the video
29:16which they later published
29:17No audio
29:20It seemed to me
29:21that was
29:22getting
29:23in knowledge
29:24from a server
29:24public
29:25some facts
29:26that allegedly
29:28could
29:29to have an incident
29:30penal
29:31and through
29:32of one
29:33of the lawyers
29:34of the company
29:35we placed
29:36a complaint
29:37penal
29:37under investigation
29:38of alleged
29:41acts
29:42tasks
29:42by
29:44a
29:44citizen
29:45Chinese
29:46and a person
29:46Colombian
29:47where
29:48were surrendered
29:4960
29:50millions
29:51of pesos
29:52and to say
29:53of the journalists
29:54and then
29:54was published
29:56the delivery
29:57of some money
29:57for payment
29:58of a work
30:01allegedly
30:02I mean
30:02there was no
30:03no other evidence
30:04and we
30:06with the lawyer
30:07criminal lawyer
30:08of the company
30:08metro
30:10we consider
30:10that
30:13was appropriate
30:14to make known
30:16to the prosecutor's office
30:16I don't know
30:17that there is
30:18a development
30:20of the process
30:21I am not a lawyer
30:23I understand that
30:24this includes
30:26through a mechanism
30:26of complaint
30:27that the prosecutor's office has
30:28and the prosecution
30:29will assign
30:30well, a prosecutor
30:32so that he/she attends
30:33the process
30:35I also know
30:36by saying
30:37from the statement
30:38the press
30:38about what
30:39the person
30:40Colombian
30:41also put
30:41a complaint
30:42penal
30:43of months
30:44previous
30:44and surely
30:45well this
30:46will join
30:48in parallel
30:48that
30:49or subsequently
30:49that
30:51on Friday
30:53before
30:54the exit
30:55from the magazine
30:56week
30:56I contacted you
30:58personally
30:59via
31:00Zoom
31:00with the three
31:01banks
31:01Inter-American Development Bank
31:02developmental
31:03and the World Bank
31:04in Washington
31:04and the Bank
31:05European Investment Fund
31:06from Luxembourg
31:07to put them
31:09present
31:10within the
31:12criterion
31:13and the standard
31:14of integrity
31:15from the banking sector
31:16that there was
31:17acquaintance
31:18allegedly
31:19facts
31:19that they could
31:19make up
31:20violations
31:21to practices
31:23prohibited
31:24or that
31:24could incur
31:25in training
31:27prohibited
31:27and
31:30contractually
31:31It was an obligation
31:32that I had to
31:32to tell the bank
31:35knowledge
31:36of those
31:37facts
31:37allegedly
31:40that they could
31:41make up
31:42a crime
31:43subsequently
31:44we have sent
31:45letter
31:46after the
31:47publication
31:48the day
31:49Monday or Tuesday
31:50after the
31:50publication
31:50both to the
31:51intervention
31:52like
31:52Metroline 1
31:54their answers
31:55They're already gone
31:56sent
31:56to the banks
31:57multilateral
31:58and then
31:59here I could
32:00manifest
32:01that we are
32:01acting
32:02in two
32:04contexts
32:04different
32:05we put
32:06in knowledge
32:08the authority
32:08competent
32:09alleged
32:10facts
32:10of
32:13corruption
32:14and front
32:15to the banks
32:17within the framework
32:18of the contract
32:19alleged
32:20shares
32:21that could
32:22failure to comply
32:23with all the
32:24criterion of
32:25integrity
32:25that they have
32:26the banks
32:26in relation
32:27to the handling
32:28of resources
32:29and attitudes
32:31that
32:32could
32:33make up
32:34a practice
32:35prohibited
32:35OK
32:36with which
32:36It is established
32:37in the contract
32:37and inside
32:38of the particularity
32:39of this case
32:40is
32:41the complaint
32:42of the subcontractor
32:44of a retention
32:45of the payment
32:45of an invoice
32:46something very similar
32:47to which it was given
32:48last year
32:49with several subcontractors
32:50at this time
32:52have existed
32:53cases
32:54similar
32:55to this
32:56that has
32:57knowledge
32:58in development
32:59of the contract
33:00through
33:01from the subcontractors
33:02and the networks
33:02that are
33:03working
33:04in development
33:05of the work
33:05Let's do it there
33:06a division
33:07important
33:09a case
33:10delivery
33:12of resources
33:14like that
33:14No
33:16cases of withholdings
33:17payments
33:18construction
33:18Yeah
33:19and they have
33:20to do
33:20in a way
33:22clear
33:22and
33:24I
33:24he took
33:2545 years old
33:26in the exercise
33:27professional
33:28and almost
33:29all entities
33:30with which
33:30job
33:31they made me
33:31withholdings
33:32quality
33:33or withholdings
33:34to guarantee
33:36the liquidation
33:37of the contract
33:39in public companies
33:41But that remains
33:41agreed
33:42within the contract
33:42No
33:43He has to
33:43carry them in cash
33:44No
33:45and I don't know
33:46that there is
33:47another person
33:48that there is
33:48made a payment
33:48in cash
33:49and if
33:49someone
33:50that is
33:51seeing
33:52has been
33:53victim
33:54or has
33:54participated
33:55or should
33:57report it
33:58inside
33:58us
33:59or to the entities
34:00control
34:01that correspond
34:02but I don't know
34:03none
34:04other
34:04now
34:04the fact
34:05per se
34:06that they are made
34:06withholdings
34:11the companies
34:11within the contract
34:12They call him
34:13I from each invoice
34:14I'm going to arrest him
34:145%
34:15and I'll pay him.
34:16when you
34:16terminate the contract
34:17And that's something.
34:19that we agreed
34:21both parties
34:22that participate
34:23in the contract
34:23There wouldn't be a problem.
34:24but it remains
34:25in writing
34:26it is used
34:26the system
34:27financial
34:27completely
34:28and both parties
34:31They do it
34:32in a way
34:34transparent
34:34and here
34:35well here
34:37really
34:37what is striking
34:38and it's a part
34:40of which
34:40inside
34:41of the competition
34:42that we have
34:43It's because
34:44It was done in cash
34:46when the contract
34:47establishes
34:48what should be done
34:49payments
34:50within the system
34:52banking
34:52of the system
34:53financial
34:53from Colombia
34:54this case
34:56in particular
34:57and taking into account
34:58the modality
34:59of the contract
34:59concession
35:00it seems that
35:02control
35:03of the company
35:04metro
35:04of the district
35:05to the resources
35:06that are being invested
35:07in development
35:08of the work
35:08It's a bit limited
35:10What can you tell us?
35:12Faced with that?
35:12How far does it go?
35:13really
35:14the power
35:15of the company
35:16metro
35:16in order to be able to
35:18avoid
35:18or control
35:19that guy
35:19of situations
35:20or which ones
35:22What are the limitations?
35:23The control
35:24of the resources
35:25public
35:25It is not limited
35:26in the modality
35:27of the contract
35:28concession
35:31all resources
35:33public
35:33that enter
35:34or participate
35:35in the contract
35:35concession
35:36They have the entirety
35:38of traceability
35:40and control
35:41which is established
35:43by law
35:44and that only
35:45cease to be
35:46public resources
35:48when with those resources
35:49it is paid
35:50or is it rewarded
35:51in the case
35:52of the contract
35:53concession
35:53a unit
35:54execution
35:54then
35:56the oversight
35:57has certified
35:58that the scope
36:00or the activities
36:01that are
36:01in the unit
36:02execution
36:03that is rewarded
36:04are completed
36:05to satisfaction
36:07that's why
36:08we can do it
36:09an outlay
36:10to the dealer
36:11for the amount
36:12which is established
36:13in the contract
36:14those resources
36:15they are placed
36:16in a heritage
36:17autonomous
36:17to make a
36:18protection
36:20and traceability
36:21of that resource
36:22public
36:22so far
36:23that arrives
36:24to the heritage
36:25autonomous
36:25when it arrives
36:26to the heritage
36:27autonomous
36:27and there already are
36:31decisions
36:32by law
36:32those resources
36:33they become
36:34of a character
36:35private
36:35It's the payment
36:36What is done to him?
36:36to a person
36:37for a service
36:38where
36:39the person
36:40He has to
36:43drive
36:43OK
36:44with the law
36:45in the relationship
36:46between private individuals
36:47that is to say
36:48cannot
36:48commit crimes
36:49with that money
36:50but
36:50the heritage
36:52autonomous
36:52which is an element
36:53that we have
36:54within the contract
36:55very important
36:55between the handling
36:57financial contract
36:58receives resources
37:00from the dealership
37:01through two modalities
37:03the contributions
37:05equity
37:05that is, contributions
37:06that he places
37:07to perform
37:07the project
37:08then place
37:09risk
37:10to finance
37:11your project
37:11the financial closing
37:13and the resources
37:15that come out
37:16of the trust
37:17where they are
37:19public resources
37:20and are recorded
37:22the heritage
37:22autonomous
37:23when the work
37:24or the element
37:26construction
37:26has been
37:27finished
37:28and at that moment
37:29acquires
37:31feature
37:31resource
37:32private
37:33and with that
37:34resource
37:34he
37:36check
37:36or hire
37:38to their
37:39subcontractors
37:42There is no fault
37:43in the control
37:44us
37:44we pay
37:46the relationship
37:47between private individuals
37:48It is clearly
37:49defined
37:49within the contract
37:50which is a responsibility
37:51from the dealership
37:52We did not participate
37:53in the value
37:54by which
37:55hire
37:55how to hire
37:56how often
37:58pay
37:58and we return
38:00to participate
38:01in that relationship
38:02between private individuals
38:02when by law
38:04we are obliged
38:05to verify
38:06that each one
38:07of people
38:07that are
38:08linked to the work
38:10are also
38:11linked
38:11to security
38:12social
38:13to EDL
38:13health systems
38:14and that everyone
38:16be protected
38:17properly
38:18OK
38:19like the law
38:19It demands it
38:20if we arrive
38:21to find
38:22staff
38:22that it is not
38:23bound
38:23to security
38:24social
38:24in the work
38:25It is a breach
38:27of the contract
38:27and we have to
38:28immediately
38:28point it out
38:29so that it can be corrected
38:30because of the risk
38:31of a person
38:32in the work
38:32that it is not
38:33bound
38:34to security
38:34social
38:35and when there is
38:38protests
38:38of workers
38:39or they inform us
38:40the workers
38:41that the dealer
38:44He hasn't paid them
38:45through some
38:46from its contractors
38:47but in the contract
38:48the dealership
38:49is the one responsible
38:51by all workers
38:52of the work
38:54we immediately
38:55we inform you
38:56to the dealer
38:56so that they can be done
38:57the payments
38:58or when they leave
38:59to protest
39:00because we haven't been able to
39:01assess
39:02or identify
39:03the lack of payment
39:05we are the first
39:06in requiring
39:07to the dealer
39:07so that they can be carried out
39:09the payments
39:09immediately
39:10and cessation
39:11that guy
39:12of activities
39:13the company
39:15Bogotá Metro
39:15is committed
39:18with protect
39:19to the workers
39:20and the best way
39:21to protect
39:22to the workers
39:22is to guarantee
39:24and verify
39:25that they be paid
39:26for their activities
39:27additional
39:28of all the
39:29security measures
39:30and health
39:31of the work
39:31that guarantee us
39:32integrity
39:35and that it is not
39:36generate
39:37accidents
39:37work
39:38that affect
39:40integrity
39:41and life
39:41of people
39:42the relationship
39:43between individuals
39:44concessionaire
39:45with your contractor
39:46We don't govern it
39:48contractually
39:48it is like this
39:49That's how contracts work.
39:50concession
39:51in the contracts
39:52concession
39:52not only this
39:54those that he does
39:55the ANI
39:55and other concessions
39:57there is a distribution
39:58risk
39:59very clear
40:00and change this
40:02would be to change
40:02that concept
40:05contract
40:05concession
40:06where the dealership
40:08has the responsibility
40:09to hire
40:10people
40:11the companies
40:12with which
40:13will execute
40:14the work
40:15who is in charge
40:16It seemed
40:17that the company
40:18did not intervene
40:19really
40:20at that point
40:21For example
40:21in the non-payment
40:23But we see then
40:24whether there are any channels
40:25so that
40:25the subcontractors
40:27to those who
40:28suddenly
40:29have complaints
40:30due to lack of payments
40:31if they can attend
40:32to the intervention
40:33from the metro company
40:34through which channels
40:35They can do it
40:36Of course we have channels
40:38I mean
40:39on the page
40:41www.metrodebogota.gov.co
40:45we have a point
40:47where
40:47any worker
40:49person
40:50or signature
40:52with identification
40:53or without identification
40:55can put us
40:56present
40:57that there is a lack
40:59paid
41:00or any other
41:01irregularity
41:01and we
41:02immediately
41:02with that information
41:04we don't need
41:05do none
41:06testing
41:07We'll forward it to you.
41:08to the consortium
41:09so that
41:09adjustment
41:11modify
41:12fulfill
41:13or check
41:15the circumstance
41:16that is being presented
41:17additionally
41:18the
41:19officials
41:20from the metro company
41:21when we go
41:22to the work
41:22permanently
41:23We greet you
41:25to our
41:25companions
41:26work
41:27we asked
41:29regularly
41:30if they are paid
41:32how do they feel
41:33It's a way
41:34direct
41:35to know
41:36the state
41:37of the process
41:37and sometimes
41:39people
41:40it cheers up
41:40to tell us
41:41that they have
41:42difficulties
41:43and with that information
41:44us too
41:45we act
41:46we protect
41:47to the worker
41:48because we know
41:49which are the
41:50workers
41:51those who really
41:52have
41:53responsibility
41:55and the dynamics
41:55to execute
41:57the work
41:57the modality
41:59equal armor
42:00to the metro company
42:00of any complaint
42:01from a subcontractor
42:03because one has
42:04that understand
42:05with the
42:05private
42:06with the consortium
42:07Chinese
42:07but
42:08for the next
42:10contracts
42:10of the following lines
42:11that we expect
42:12that develop
42:14in the city
42:14They shouldn't be done
42:15settings
42:16on that topic
42:16oversight
42:17to avoid arriving
42:18at this point
42:19like the one that happened
42:20of the money
42:21in cash
42:21on the table
42:22withheld payments
42:24those alleged
42:25cases of corruption
42:26how could
42:27adjust better
42:28that oversight
42:29of the district
42:30in that type
42:32of contracts
42:32all the regulations
42:35contractual
42:37what does that have to do with it
42:38with prohibited practices
42:40integrity
42:41transparency
42:42systems
42:44of
42:45alerts
42:46are clearly
42:48defined
42:49It's difficult.
42:51I mean
42:52There will be lessons
42:53learned
42:54and we can
42:54improve
42:55something
42:55but that
42:56It is robust
42:57It is a
42:57position
42:58from the banking sector
42:59that requires us
43:00that there is
43:01some transparencies
43:02and that there is
43:03policies
43:04of integrity
43:05within the
43:05companies
43:06that participate
43:07in the project
43:08that guarantee
43:09that there won't be
43:10acts of corruption
43:12But if they arrive
43:13let's see
43:13what we have
43:14is to act
43:14in a way
43:15immediate
43:16transparent
43:17to attack
43:18that fact
43:19and to avoid
43:20that they become
43:21to happen
43:22I mean
43:23that with respect
43:23at that point
43:24us
43:25we say
43:26we are applying
43:28all the regulations
43:29that we have
43:29in charge
43:30and if there is
43:31lessons learned
43:33of the fact
43:33surely
43:35we will be taking
43:37decisions
43:37to strengthen
43:39even more
43:39those processes
43:41in hiring
43:42line 2
43:42and line 3
43:43and those that follow
43:44but we can't
43:46blur
43:47the characteristics
43:48of the contract
43:49concession
43:50the dealership
43:52must bring
43:53his patents
43:54your knowledge
43:56your know-how
43:56your experience
43:58their relationship
43:59contractual
44:00with third parties
44:01that allow him
44:02freely
44:04determine
44:05How will it be?
44:06the work
44:06control
44:07that we
44:08we have to do
44:09It is protective
44:10verification
44:11that the workers
44:14are taken care of
44:16that they have
44:16conditions
44:17health
44:18established
44:20within the rules
44:21national
44:22that they have
44:23protection
44:24security
44:25social
44:25that are
44:26linked
44:27to the ARL
44:29that they have
44:30all the resources
44:31and security
44:32and there
44:33we are
44:34working
44:35properly
44:35I am convinced
44:38Alexander
44:40that
44:40the contract
44:41concession
44:42It is a figure
44:43favorable
44:44for the country
44:45and that the
44:47contracts
44:47of concessions
44:48although we have
44:48migrated
44:49of concessions
44:50roads
44:51first-rate
44:51generation
44:52fourth
44:53and fifth
44:53generation
44:54the dealership
44:56It is a
44:56company
44:58what are you doing
44:58an investment
45:02mostly
45:03of their own
45:04resources
45:05with a remuneration
45:06or compensation
45:07economic
45:08in the case
45:09road
45:09through the
45:10toll
45:10or of validity
45:11future
45:12in the case
45:13of the line
45:141 of the metro
45:14through
45:15of the validity periods
45:15future
45:16that contribute
45:17the government
45:18national
45:18and the district
45:19and that scheme
45:21must be maintained
45:23in that distribution
45:24risks
45:25where
45:26who assumes
45:26the risk
45:27whether it's
45:27the dealership
45:28or the company
45:28metro
45:29It's because
45:30is the one that
45:31better can
45:32attend
45:32the risk
45:33that is
45:34presenting
45:34and in this case
45:35the handling
45:36staff
45:37the hiring
45:38from the subcontractors
45:39must be
45:41leading
45:41from the dealership
45:42in this case
45:44particular
45:45This is the latest case
45:45what he said
45:46multilateral banking
45:48what can happen
45:49or how it will develop
45:50that process
45:51and where
45:53could arrive
45:54in this
45:55last case
45:56as I was saying
45:57There are two topics
45:57the issue of the prosecution
45:58which is a topic
45:59the multilateral banking sector
46:01but the one from
46:02within the contract
46:03multilateral banking
46:05We are working
46:07to evaluate
46:09the probability
46:10that they have
46:11breached
46:12contractual norms
46:15and will be taken
46:17the processes
46:18that take us
46:18to verify
46:19compliance
46:21or non-compliance
46:22of those rules
46:24the dealership
46:25will always have
46:27the option
46:30his
46:31due
46:32defense
46:33and to explain
46:35within the framework
46:36of development
46:37of processes
46:39of non-compliance
46:41their performances
46:43I can't
46:44define here
46:47that happened
46:48But if we had to
46:50and we are evaluating
46:51compliance
46:54of
46:54guidelines
46:56specific
46:56of the contract
46:57people
46:58to conclude
46:58There are fewer left
47:0020 months
47:01for entry
47:03in operation
47:04of the system
47:05metro
47:06from the front line
47:08What will they be?
47:09the challenges
47:10more complex
47:11to overcome
47:12at this stage
47:13that
47:14It's coming
47:16before that
47:17first trip
47:18By train?
47:21I think that
47:22when we arrive
47:22March
47:23of 2028
47:24the challenges
47:25were
47:26compliments
47:27the challenge
47:28most important
47:29it's for
47:30September
47:31of 2027
47:32that
47:32must
47:33have
47:34the phase
47:34construction
47:36practically
47:37finished
47:38hurry up
47:39some parts
47:40of space
47:40public
47:41roads
47:42still
47:43could
47:44continue
47:45but what
47:45is the part
47:46metroferroviaria
47:46complete
47:47in order to be able to
47:48start the march
47:49white
47:50the march
47:50of tests
47:51of the entire system
47:52Let's not forget
47:53that this is
47:54a train
47:54automatic
47:55with automation
47:57GOA4
47:58driverless
48:01surely
48:02we will operate
48:03at the beginning
48:04with some
48:04supervisors
48:05but the opening
48:07of doors
48:07the entire march
48:09white
48:09the whole experience
48:11and the information
48:12to the user
48:12in real time
48:14These are the challenges
48:15most important
48:16that we must
48:17begin
48:17approve
48:19in September
48:20And there it is.
48:21that thing I was telling you
48:23Alexander
48:23that everyone
48:24we must arrive
48:24integrated
48:25in September
48:27and say
48:28we are doing
48:28the tests
48:29so that in March
48:30of the 28th
48:31people
48:32get mounted
48:32manager
48:34thank you so much
48:34for your time
48:35with great pleasure
48:36and to you
48:37and to everything
48:38because always
48:38it's a pleasure
48:39talk
48:39of what
48:41I am most passionate about it
48:42line 1
48:43of the subway
48:43Well
48:44thank you so much
48:45to everyone
48:47for being
48:48connected
48:48with
48:49the viewer
48:50follow
48:51in our
48:51different
48:52platforms
48:52consuming
48:53more content
48:54thank you so much
48:55and have
48:56good day
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49:02No
49:03No
49:03Thanks for watching the video.
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