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00:00I think there is people who set the standard.
00:03I think, as much as I love Kyle, I think Erika Jayne came in and blew everybody's hair off.
00:09With the fashion, with the hair and makeup.
00:15Virtual reality.
00:17Justin Sylvester, you know you are mine and Danny's favorite.
00:20Thank you so much for doing virtual reality.
00:21We're obsessed with you.
00:23No, when we were going to LA, you were the first person we DM'd.
00:25We were like, we hope Justin knows he has to hang out with us.
00:28And you were hanging out with us, which is so fun.
00:29No, I'm here.
00:31And by the way, I just got to have a boat trip, but I came for you guys.
00:33Wait, where was the boat?
00:34Where were you?
00:35Oh girl, we were in the south of France.
00:36We were in Italy.
00:37With the man?
00:38No.
00:39We'll talk about that offline.
00:41Okay.
00:42Oh God.
00:42Okay.
00:43Wait, who are we with?
00:44Who are we with in the south of France?
00:45Oh, just some friends.
00:46I bopped around with some friends.
00:47That's so fun.
00:47We were in the south of France for work.
00:50It was not as glamorous as I'm sure your experience was, but I love that for you.
00:53I really loved it.
00:54I mean, listen, I wasn't having a good enough time like Brooks Nader, but-
00:58Oh my God.
00:58Wait.
00:58What do you think of Brooks Nader?
01:00Well, it's been a journey we've been on with Brooks because first it was topless in front
01:03of daddy.
01:03And now she's jumping in the ocean fully clothed with her heels on.
01:06And Gucci.
01:07And Gucci.
01:07Yes.
01:07And Gucci.
01:08I personally love it.
01:09She, Brooks is someone.
01:10Danny and I just love her so much.
01:13When you would also probably appreciate, we love that she's bringing back old school celebrity
01:16vibes.
01:16Where she's just like, I'm doing things and I want the paparazzi to see.
01:19And I don't give a .
01:20She's probably going to Kitson and it's been closed for three years.
01:23She is probably going to the old Kitson store.
01:25That is exactly it.
01:26Yes.
01:26I grew up with Kristen Cavallari.
01:28I grew up with Paris Hilton.
01:30I grew up with Lindsay Lohan.
01:31I grew up when the girls would call the pops.
01:33Yes.
01:33I like that energy.
01:35I also like that she just doesn't care.
01:38No.
01:38She really does not.
01:40I love Brooks so much.
01:41I feel like for us, she is one of our uncancellables.
01:44We were talking about that earlier with the Smith sisters at Sirius XM.
01:47They asked us who our uncancellables were.
01:49That's a good question.
01:49We didn't say Brooks Nader, although we should have.
01:52We should have.
01:52Yours was Lana Del Rey.
01:53Mine was Britney Spears.
01:54Who is like your ultimate uncancellable celebrity?
01:56Oh, Jennifer Lopez.
01:57Okay.
01:58Oh my God.
01:58She could stab you right here, right now.
02:00And I wish she would.
02:01Oh, honey.
02:01You would get off on being stabbed by JLo.
02:03I love Jennifer Lopez so much.
02:05Now, I appreciate what she does, but I critique her lovingly.
02:08He does.
02:09He really does.
02:10He gives her a hard time.
02:11Let me tell you something.
02:12JLo and Madonna.
02:13Okay.
02:14They might even hate each other.
02:15I was going to say, I think they probably do.
02:16I don't even think they like each other.
02:17No, no, no.
02:17I will say this.
02:19If you have been A-list for 30 plus years, and you have fought for rights, and you have
02:27given the girls cooch, booch, and everything else.
02:30Uh-huh.
02:31Madonna split-squatted for you to have rights.
02:34She did.
02:35I'm not fighting about these girls.
02:37You can't fight me on some JLo .
02:39Okay?
02:40Jesus.
02:40You can't tell me anything.
02:42Right.
02:42And there's a few reasons why I like JLo.
02:44Okay.
02:44Give it to us.
02:45One is, mama don't give a .
02:47No.
02:48Mama said, you want a break?
02:49Hold a minute.
02:50Here's two bops and a tour.
02:52Okay?
02:52She really is constantly feeding us.
02:54She's feeding you.
02:55She's totally feeding you because she doesn't care.
02:58She is a workhorse.
02:59She loves it.
03:00And I think now more than ever, like she is, I'm not going to say a woman of a certain
03:05age, but she is a woman of a certain experience.
03:07Yes.
03:08And when you have been at the top for that long, you deserve it.
03:12I love that.
03:12And you know what?
03:13You want to wear a panty while doing it?
03:14Wear a panty while doing it.
03:16Exactly.
03:16I mean, to any JLo haters out there, what is your message?
03:20My message is keep hating because she don't stay here.
03:23And also that's what I love.
03:24There's always the memes where it's like, no matter what's happening in her life, she's
03:26going to go out looking hot and taking photos of herself.
03:29And by the way, I...
03:31And drinking her drink.
03:32Drinking her drink, honey.
03:33And using JLo skincare.
03:34And using JLo skincare.
03:34That Delola?
03:35Mmm.
03:36It hits.
03:36Is it good?
03:37I've never had it.
03:38I've never had it.
03:38We don't drink, so I don't know.
03:40Should I try?
03:41Should I relapse?
03:41You should do it.
03:42Do it for JLo.
03:43I also love that when I hear somebody drop a F-bomb, like when a woman is in Versace,
03:50I will never forget this for the rest of my life.
03:52Wait.
03:52We were at a red carpet.
03:55She's in a Versace gown, make up to the gods.
03:58And that, for the first time ever, I heard a celebrity, like a woman, drop a F-bomb.
04:04And I almost short-circuited.
04:05Yes.
04:06It was the most glorious thing ever.
04:08What was she saying at someone or just...
04:10No, in my interview, she like literally dropped the F-bomb and I...
04:14My tampon flew right out.
04:15Like...
04:16What were you guys talking about?
04:18Nothing that needed an F-bomb, but I love a creative cursor.
04:21Yes!
04:21My grandmother would throw a motherfucker in anywhere.
04:24Well, she's a dancer, so she can dance with her tongue.
04:25She can dance with her tongue.
04:27That's so funny because I don't think of her as someone who curses often,
04:29so that you really experience something very special in that moment.
04:31Oh my God, it's like seeing a rainbow.
04:33A double.
04:33Wait, have you had a lot of J-Lo moments?
04:36I've had a ton of J-Lo moments.
04:37Really?
04:38Oh, I'm so jealous.
04:39What is it like seeing her in real life?
04:40I imagine she's just physically flawless.
04:43Physically flawless.
04:47Gives the best advice.
04:48Yeah.
04:49She...
04:50I don't even know I'm supposed to say this, but I'm gonna say it.
04:52I was going through a hard time at some point.
04:55At the same time, I think she was going through a rough one too.
04:59We were at a barbecue, and I was literally losing it.
05:04Like, on the verge of having a moment.
05:06And she stopped what she was doing, sat her ass right next to me,
05:11and talked to me for an hour about my issue.
05:14My God, you were just casually at a barbecue with Jennifer Lopez.
05:17I know, I was like, we have to go back.
05:18I'm sorry, you were going through a rough time.
05:20But I was like, wait, what?
05:22Casually.
05:22Wow.
05:23Casually.
05:24You're the first person that makes me want to move to L.A.
05:25We've talked to her all week.
05:26No, seriously.
05:26And my friend, who's a plus one, had never met her before.
05:30Okay.
05:30And I didn't know she was gonna be at the barbecue.
05:32I had no idea.
05:34My friend, when I looked across, I'm in tears, and my friend's mouth is on the ground so hard
05:41that her boob had flung out probably 30 minutes before, and she didn't even know.
05:46Oh my God.
05:46She was just in such awe about this whole thing.
05:49She was like, Jennifer Lopez is sitting there giving you the greatest advice of your life.
05:54Wow.
05:54Also for J.Lo to see your tit is kind of magical.
05:56Right?
05:57That's an honor.
05:58And she should've like, Diana Rossed it when she walked by.
06:00Oh my God.
06:01Can you imagine?
06:02And she like, just tapped it.
06:03Oh my God.
06:04I love that you love J.Lo so much.
06:05I am curious to know your thoughts on Mariah then.
06:08Do you also love Mariah?
06:09Also in a, I'm not taking any criticism of Mariah.
06:16Mariah, of Jennifer, of Beyonce, of Madonna, of Celine.
06:19Right.
06:20Like those women.
06:20Leave the divas alone.
06:21Leave the divas alone.
06:22Yes.
06:23I know.
06:23They sort of, because like they paved their own way and are just doing themselves.
06:27And like you said, like they're still at the top of their game.
06:29100%.
06:30If you have appeared on Divas Live for more than one time and one appearance only, you are
06:36good in my book.
06:37That is so true.
06:38Do you know what's really funny is actually Danny and I recently interviewed Rita Hazan
06:41and she's a celebrity hairstylist.
06:42She was telling us cause she, she's done Mariah's hair.
06:45She's also done J.Lo's hair.
06:47And the reason that J.Lo found her was because she did Mariah's hair.
06:51Yeah.
06:52And so after she did Mariah's hair, I think in like 1997 or something.
06:54Yeah.
06:55J.Lo reached out and was like, girl, you kind of slayed that down.
06:58Like, let me get some Mariah.
06:59So they did notes on each other.
07:00Right.
07:00So in a way, like they're, I feel like they would with each other if given the opportunity,
07:05like a real chance at forming a friendship.
07:07Yeah.
07:07The greatest thing that could happen if these two are really feuding and I'm going to say
07:12really in case I don't know something, but if Mariah called Rita Hazan and said, Hey,
07:19I want to book you today.
07:19And she said, Oh no, I'm already with this woman named Jennifer Lopez.
07:23Bitch.
07:24That's how divas fight.
07:25Yes.
07:26They still hair and makeup.
07:27At the last minute.
07:29Or they book them for three weeks straight for nothing.
07:32Like come do my hair and makeup.
07:33I'm not going nowhere.
07:34I just don't want her to have you.
07:36And honestly, that kind of goes back to what we were saying about Brooke Snader.
07:38I feel all the divas would respect how Brooks is operating.
07:41Cause they're like, you're at least doing something.
07:43Yeah.
07:43You're out of the house.
07:45Do something.
07:46Do something, please.
07:47Cause the celebrities now are not like so many of them are doing nothing.
07:50And you know, Brooke Snader grew up in the same town I'm from.
07:52Really?
07:53Yes.
07:54Wait, are you from Louisiana?
07:55I'm from Louisiana.
07:55Wait, I didn't know that I was just saying earlier.
07:57You're raising canes.
07:58I'm raising canes.
07:59The most amazing people come from Louisiana.
08:01The Naders, Brittany, Addison, you, like all the icons come from Louisiana.
08:06What is in the water?
08:07By the way, when Madonna said, give me that mic back Addison, right?
08:10I mean, put that on my tombstone.
08:13But do you know what?
08:14Addison was so excited.
08:16She was so excited to be in the presence of Madonna.
08:18Put that on my tombstone.
08:20When Madonna did this, bitch.
08:22I also need to know who the dude was who like ratted her out.
08:25You know what I mean?
08:25Cause Madonna don't know what's going on.
08:28She's in the zone.
08:29Also, did you see, cause of course loving Kylie and Madonna's remix.
08:32Did you see Kylie say 16 year old me could not believe I have a song with Madonna?
08:36I would have punched her.
08:39You know what?
08:39She's dead.
08:40Madonna killed her.
08:41How much?
08:42Cause Madonna just turned 68.
08:43How old is Kylie?
08:44I think she's like 54, 55.
08:46Okay.
08:46So it's not that big of an age difference.
08:49I think Kylie is younger than you think.
08:51Really?
08:51Yeah.
08:51I think the British girls sometimes look more matronly because you know,
08:55they weren't in dental floss.
08:57That's true.
08:57True.
08:58Un TRL here.
08:59I see.
09:00Yeah, that is true.
09:01Wait.
09:01And also it's funny too, you were talking about how you want to boat in the south of France.
09:03When I think of the south of France now, I think of someone who told us that they call
09:07it soft because they're so rich and that's Tracy Tudor.
09:11Oh, that's right.
09:11She did tell us that.
09:13Yeah.
09:13She was like, we call it soft.
09:14And I was like, I don't know those words.
09:15Cause I'm not in your tax bracket, baby.
09:17Tracy Tudor.
09:19Tracy Tudor.
09:20Even her last name is rich.
09:21Oh, it is.
09:22And also it seems like Tudor because I feel like she's going to school the Beverly Hills
09:25girls because did you see the clip now going viral from when you both were on Jeff Lewis's
09:29show?
09:29And she was like, she wants to join Beverly Hills to give these girls a piece of their
09:32mind.
09:32Are you crazy?
09:33You were there.
09:33I knew that moment.
09:35I gave birth to that woman live on Jeff Lewis.
09:40I love this.
09:40When I asked the question, I knew exactly what was happening because I knew that Andrew
09:47Cohen, who is Jeff Lewis's boss in every facet from direct from Bravo to Sirius XM was going
09:56to hear that and put Tracy Tudor on.
09:59And I really liked Dorit.
10:01I really, she's really nice too.
10:03We love Dorit.
10:04I have a soft spot for Dorit.
10:06And I also have a soft spot for any man or woman who's going through a divorce, especially
10:10publicly.
10:11Right.
10:11I will give you a thousand passes.
10:13Dorit's on 999.
10:15Mama got one left.
10:17Yeah.
10:17She got one left.
10:18But I think that anytime somebody is going to come in who knows the game and who understands
10:24it, I'm here for it.
10:26Yeah.
10:26And Tracy Tudor is ready.
10:27Well, and they were fighting over the glam.
10:30By the way, she grew up rich.
10:32Oh, so.
10:32That's a different kind of ready.
10:33Right.
10:34Oh, totally.
10:35She grew up with the cash.
10:37And then just got more cash as life went on.
10:38Oh my God.
10:39It's kind of nice that there is this built in connection with Dorit, we'll say, because
10:44I think it was like a year or two ago that she was accusing Dorit of not paying her glam.
10:48Someone had receipts.
10:49I forgot if they were Tracy's or Dorit's or how that ultimately shook out, but it's going
10:53to be so exciting to see them come together on screen.
10:58I want to just thank Bravo for putting, and when I say this, I mean this in the most loving
11:06way possible.
11:07There's a shady gay at the helm who understands the assignment because leave it to like a random
11:14white lady, you know, who went to hell who doesn't know about shade to like hear that
11:20and be like, no, Tracy Tudor's already on another show.
11:23That man heard it and said, you know what?
11:26The gays are going to be ready.
11:27And we can, and we can have them combine forces and explode.
11:31100%.
11:31You never know how it's going to go.
11:33You never know how it's going to go.
11:34Everyone thought Dorit and Rachel Zoe were going to be like fashion foes.
11:37And now they're obsessed with each other.
11:38Right.
11:38Obsessed.
11:39Yeah.
11:40Obsessed.
11:40You also, you're not going to name the name because you're a professional, but you're
11:43now the third person who has told us because Jeff Lewis told us, Crystal Cung-Minkoff told
11:47us, and now you told us the second name joining Beverly Hills is going to blow our mind.
11:51If it is true, and I'm only going to say if it's true, I have a gay who's in.
11:57Okay.
11:58He is, I call him the mirror can.
12:00When you say you have a gay who's in, it means a lot of things.
12:02Yeah.
12:02Yeah.
12:04True.
12:05The second name is going to blow everybody's heads.
12:07And this is like, you're like, I'm just thinking in my head, like it's like a celebrity-ass
12:12I'm just going to say this, this person who has predicted this mother must be psychic.
12:17Okay.
12:18Oh, he must be on the hotline.
12:19He has predicted every new housewife for the past like eight to 10 years.
12:24Wow.
12:25So I don't even get it from my lady.
12:27Okay.
12:27You know, we don't even talk about that.
12:29You know, she's, you know, moving her kids off.
12:31Yeah.
12:32This is wedding.
12:33I even have time to confirm it with her.
12:35Yeah.
12:35But this gay knows.
12:36Okay.
12:37She's the glorical, I call her.
12:38Wow.
12:38I'm so intrigued.
12:40I can't wait to find out who it is.
12:41I'm sure since the Tracy news drops, I feel like this news, it has to drop soon.
12:45I'm just like on the edge of my seat.
12:47Well, remember all the ladies are in Africa for Bose's wedding.
12:52Once they come back, it's going to ramp up hard.
12:56Right.
12:56So you're going to start to see the ladies all out together.
13:00Okay.
13:00So I think you'll figure it out sooner than you think.
13:03Oh my God.
13:04Unless they do a full on, keep this person under wraps.
13:07Right.
13:08Type of thing.
13:09We're not allowing that.
13:10I do love, and even though she did shut it down, cause everyone thought it was going
13:13to be Morgan Stewart.
13:14We actually were even talking to Nina Parker yesterday and we were like, what would you,
13:17do you think she would be fun on it?
13:18And she was like, Morgan Stewart would be the best housewife of all time.
13:22Yeah.
13:22She really would.
13:23And like Nina was like, she would dance circles around this world.
13:25I hate that she shut it down.
13:26Like I, I would love to see her on the show.
13:28Cause like she has like, kind of like Tracy Tudor, like she has just like what it takes,
13:32you know, she's got the riz and the wallet.
13:34Well, you know what?
13:34She'll be living in your apartment if she, if she joins the show.
13:38Yeah.
13:38I know.
13:38She will tell you her husband will leave her if she does it.
13:44And I think, and honestly, she loves him so much.
13:47Which is good.
13:48And he's obsessed with her and she has a great life.
13:52Yeah.
13:52And I love to honestly the, like the new show she's doing.
13:55I'm like, that is everywhere too.
13:57Yeah.
13:57No, it's good.
13:58It's going to be good.
13:59And to see her on Hulu on House of Stassi for me was just like a, cause I worked on
14:04Rich
14:05Kids at Beverly Hills.
14:06Oh yes.
14:07Like as a producer?
14:09Bitch.
14:09Have you not heard this story?
14:10No, wait, what?
14:12Girl, hold a minute.
14:13Let me take a sip of this.
14:14Oh, tell me.
14:15By the way, the refrigerator here at California post is cold.
14:18Okay.
14:18Oh, okay.
14:19We love that.
14:21Wait, I love this lore.
14:23I did not know that.
14:24I went into a casting for a reality show with this guy named Duran Ophir.
14:32Casting.
14:32Shout out to Duran.
14:34Okay.
14:35I went into the casting.
14:36Duran was like, you made it to the next round.
14:38He told me what the casting was about.
14:41I was like, I don't know.
14:42So, however, I do know that there are this group of kids in Beverly Hills that are rich.
14:49They're on Instagram and they're funny as .
14:53And he was like, yeah, but they're too young.
14:55And I was like, no, no, just meet with Dorothy Wayne.
14:57Why don't you just meet with Dorothy Wayne?
14:58You'll really like her.
15:00He was like, oh, I'm going to put my assistant Sarah on it.
15:03And Dorothy went in for the meeting.
15:06And six months later, they were on air.
15:09Wow.
15:09So this was your concept.
15:11This was, I knew that Dorothy was good TV.
15:14She and Morgan were pitching a show with Ryan Seacrest at the time.
15:17But the concept was like kind of whack that they wanted to put them on.
15:21So in my head, I thought, hmm, like this guy seems like he's looking for a group of friends in
15:26Los Angeles.
15:27He was looking for older friends, more like the Valley, you know, type.
15:32But I was like, why not these kids?
15:34Yeah.
15:34So they did the show.
15:35I produced three seasons of that show.
15:38Oh, my God.
15:38Wait.
15:39First of all, belated congratulations.
15:40That's amazing.
15:41No, no.
15:42You've been involved in every part of TV.
15:44Yeah.
15:44No, no.
15:45Wait.
15:45So you knew the magic of Morgan from the jump.
15:47I knew.
15:48I met her in a stairwell.
15:50She had brown hair.
15:51We were at someone's 21st birthday.
15:52Dorothy Wink's 21st birthday is where I met her.
15:54Wow.
15:55In the stairwell.
15:56At the Roosevelt.
15:57Iconic.
15:58It's so funny, too, because we interviewed Dorothy and you never know what to expect.
16:01Like where someone's just like rich and fabulous and everything like that.
16:05You're like, okay, is she going to be cold and standoff?
16:06She's the nicest girl.
16:07The nicest human.
16:08I love her.
16:09And she's smart.
16:09So smart.
16:10You know why she's smart?
16:11Because she has a car to go to the outlets.
16:13Yeah.
16:13Because that's a rich girl going to the outlets.
16:14Literally.
16:15That's a genius.
16:15That's a genius.
16:16No, no.
16:16Like she literally does.
16:17No, I love.
16:18And we got to explain to her what Five Below was.
16:20She didn't know.
16:21Shut up.
16:22She thought it was like a vintage.
16:24Even after we explained it to her, she thought it was like a thrift store where she
16:26could sell her like old used.
16:28That's my aspirational tax pocket.
16:30Like, even after we told her what it was, she was like, okay, so I can drop off like
16:34some donations.
16:35She rich is good.
16:36Yeah.
16:37She can rich.
16:37I feel like she, cause now that she's in New York, we did suggest maybe you should do
16:41Real Housewives of New York City.
16:42Cause she's connected to some of those girls.
16:43She's very close with Cy.
16:45But she's young.
16:46Yeah.
16:46And she did say, it's just like, that's not her bag right now.
16:49And well, she doesn't even need a bag.
16:51Her bag is her broken.
16:52Literally.
16:52Also her man would also leave her.
16:54Oh yeah.
16:55Okay.
16:55I think that's the thing with people that I like rich rich.
16:57It's important to like preserve the marriage.
16:58They don't want to be on television.
16:59Yeah.
16:59And sometimes like the marriage is more important than Housewives.
17:03Yeah.
17:03I would hope so for the most part.
17:05Yeah.
17:06You know, just fingers crossed.
17:07Are you tapped in, even though you were traveling, are you tapped into a lot of the
17:09goings on in reality TV right now?
17:11Yeah.
17:11What's going on?
17:12Well, we're like deep in next gen and Atlanta Housewives.
17:14Oh, Atlanta is, this is the best cast they've had in so many years.
17:22It's so good.
17:23It's incredible.
17:24They're missing one person.
17:25Nene.
17:27I didn't even want, by the way, I don't even want to say that because I don't even want
17:30to like disappoint myself.
17:32But if Candy Burst could come back in because Candy and Shamia are friends.
17:37Right.
17:37That would change the game for Shamia.
17:39That would change the game for Shamia.
17:41And also Candy and Kelly were just hanging out too.
17:42Candy and Kelly were just hanging out, but Shamia needs a friend.
17:46Yeah.
17:47She really does.
17:48Cause it's, it's hard.
17:49It seems like she really is on an island of her own.
17:51And I thought her and K Michelle were going to be close, but then this past reunion,
17:54this was not happening.
17:55And I guess she has Kelly kind of, but I feel like Kelly, I don't want to, I think Kelly's
18:00amazing.
18:00I don't want to say she's like disloyal, but I think that Kelly is smart enough to know
18:04which way to move to make sure the show is working for her.
18:06Yeah.
18:06Well, Kelly need the cash.
18:08Right.
18:08Okay.
18:09She said the standard.
18:10Yeah.
18:10No, no.
18:11She literally, she said the standard.
18:12She said the standard.
18:14Okay.
18:15What was your take on her?
18:16I said the standard rant.
18:18I was like, wait till Marlowe gets a hold of this.
18:20Right.
18:21Wait till Kim Zosiak's wig gets a hold of this.
18:25Wait till Chateau Charay gets a hold of this.
18:29Now that is someone I really do miss on the show.
18:30By the way, I think there is people who set the standard.
18:33I think as much as I love Kyle, I think Erica Jane came in and blew everybody's hair off.
18:40Yeah.
18:40With the fashion, with the hair and makeup.
18:43Oh yeah, for sure.
18:44And Mikey Minden, I always say it.
18:46He had a team of feral bottoms, hair, makeup, wardrobe.
18:53They just knew what they were doing.
18:54Right.
18:55You know what I mean?
18:55They were half asleep because they were all up from the night before, but they were giving
18:59that bitch a ponytail.
19:01Oh yeah.
19:01And I love, she probably was out with them just as late.
19:03No, literally.
19:04No, literally.
19:04So when she came on the scene, everybody had to pivot, even the women on other shows.
19:10Right.
19:10That's true.
19:11She said it, that she actually set the standard.
19:13Yeah.
19:13I mean, I really do love the way that she did change the entire aesthetic of the housewives
19:17universe.
19:18It's kind of like beautiful to see.
19:19And then also it's fun to see when the girls kind of like, they try and they fail.
19:23Like sometimes those failed, like the confessional looks are like just too good.
19:26They're too good.
19:27They take a chance and sometimes it doesn't work out, but it's so visually like thrilling.
19:31And also you can tell every moment Erica's in conversation with someone, she's like,
19:34I'm choosing to be nicer than I, than I want to be to you.
19:38Cause I could rip you apart in five seconds, but I'm not doing that.
19:40Oh, 1000%.
19:41No, 1000%.
19:42It seems like she and Luann get into it on girls trip at Kyle's white party.
19:47And like, I just, I never even thought of them like in the same context, but I can see
19:52why they might not get along.
19:54What do you make of Luann and Erica not getting along?
19:56Listen, I think when you have a housewife who has cornered a thing, I think Luann thinks
20:03she's the only singer on housewives.
20:05She knows she's the only singer on housewives.
20:08Show me your fedora.
20:09Exactly.
20:10Yeah.
20:10By the way, you cannot tell me that she is not Diana Ross.
20:13You can't tell Luann that.
20:15Okay.
20:15I don't think, yeah.
20:15Luann thinks they're twins and I'm here for it.
20:17I'm here for the dedication.
20:18I'm here for the confidence.
20:20I'm here for it all.
20:21But before I started housewives, I would go to this gay bar and it was the video bars
20:26back in the day.
20:27Yeah.
20:29And Erica Jane's song would always come on and you would see her on the video.
20:32So I knew who she was before housewives.
20:35Yeah.
20:36I saw her play in gay clubs before housewives.
20:37Do you know what?
20:38I saw her open for Kim Zolciak at splash in New York city.
20:42Shut up.
20:42Isn't that crazy?
20:42Shut up.
20:43She opened for Kim Zolciak.
20:45Which is wild.
20:46Isn't that nuts?
20:47But they had the same publicist.
20:48Jack Ketsuyan was Erica James and Kim Zolciak's publicist.
20:54I didn't even think about that.
20:55So that makes sense now.
20:56Oh my God.
20:56Jack was both of them at the time.
20:58Yeah.
20:59Do we, I mean, now it seems like Erica and Doree are really fiery at each other too.
21:04I think it's going to be a good season.
21:05Yeah.
21:06And I think a lot of times what happens on Beverly Hills is like one is very calm.
21:12Another one, semi calm.
21:14And then the one that comes after, and I don't want to put pressure on Tracy Tudor, but I'm
21:20putting the pressure on Tracy Tudor.
21:22I think it's going to go off.
21:23I think she likes the pressure.
21:24I think she loves the pressure.
21:25I think she's like, Oh, I can't wait to piss everybody off.
21:28Yeah.
21:28When speaking of pissing people off, Vicky kind of pissed people off when she was talking
21:32to your girl Kyle in this past ultimate girls trip about the divorce.
21:35Yeah.
21:36But did you, did you see her face?
21:40Vicky's or Kyle's?
21:42Kyle was like, like, read the room.
21:46Read the room.
21:46Yeah.
21:47At this point, I'm just like, I'm watching her break down about this.
21:51Yeah.
21:52And I know she's having a hard time with it because I was on the phone with her right
21:55before they filmed that scene.
21:57Okay.
21:58And she's having this like emotional moment in front of Vicky.
22:01And I think what happens, Vicky is so used of no vulnerability.
22:08Like those barracudas on Orange County, they don't, they don't cry.
22:11Yeah.
22:12They really don't.
22:12They don't have tear ducts.
22:14When was the last time you saw somebody have a breakdown on that show?
22:16Except Tamara in the back of that Sprinter van four seasons ago.
22:19Oh yeah.
22:20That's true.
22:21You can't cry in front of those barracudas.
22:22So I think what Vicky is having is, Oh my God, there's someone on this show that
22:28it's actually having an emotional moment.
22:30And she had a short circuit.
22:31Yeah.
22:32Cause I think she was like, I think she genuinely was trying to be helpful, but didn't know
22:36how to.
22:37For sure.
22:38Well, she comes from the perspective of really regretting her divorce.
22:41And so I think that, I think it came from like a place of like internalized anger at
22:45herself.
22:46Cause she's so ashamed of her divorce.
22:48And then she's telling Kyle, well, you should be ashamed.
22:50Yeah.
22:51Which is like a crazy thing to say to someone who's crying.
22:54But I think she was, I think she was talking to herself.
22:56Exactly.
22:57It was like looking in a mirror, but Kyle is not Vicky.
23:00Right.
23:00But like, it's like, girl, you've had three engagement rings since a divorce.
23:03You got to move on.
23:04That is very true.
23:05Yeah.
23:06That girl, you've been engaged more times to Jennifer Lopez.
23:09It's almost like she's reverted back.
23:10That is true.
23:11Not Vicky being the JLo of Bravo.
23:13And by the way, what's Vicky got?
23:14Cause she, she can get a man.
23:16Oh, always.
23:16She will always have a man.
23:17She will always have a man.
23:18She needs to teach Shannon how to get a man.
23:20Cause Shannon seems really lonely right now.
23:22Yeah.
23:23She's crying about being lonely.
23:24Yeah.
23:24I feel bad.
23:25I think Shannon's getting some secret.
23:27Really?
23:28I hope so.
23:29Okay.
23:29I think Shannon's getting some secret, but when you're on that show in that capacity,
23:35Tamara's never going to let Shannon ever live down what she did.
23:40Yeah.
23:40Yeah.
23:41And I, and even though they are trying to become friends again, I feel that we'll always be
23:45in the back of our mind.
23:45And also Tamara someone, and we love her for it.
23:48If you start to piss her off, she will just go.
23:50Ballistic.
23:51She didn't give a .
23:52Yeah.
23:52No, not at all.
23:53Here's the thing I need from Housewives.
23:57And I know this is a hot take and I know the gays are going to be mad at me.
24:00It should be like a presidential run.
24:02Okay.
24:03I need you to stay in for four years, leave for a year, come back and do another four.
24:08Well, unless you're Kyle.
24:10Actually, no.
24:12I need you to come for four, take a pause.
24:14Go live your life.
24:16Do you think a pause would have benefited Kyle at any point?
24:18I think a pause would benefit everyone.
24:21Okay.
24:22Just to get a breather for yourself.
24:23And also it makes your entire life not the show.
24:25100%.
24:25Yeah.
24:26Because what happens is, let's say you start filming in August.
24:29Yeah.
24:29That means you're filming August, September, October, November, and then you're doing pickups,
24:33December, January, you get February off.
24:37Then you start doing press for the show and the show comes out in February.
24:41Then it's on February, March, April, May, June, July.
24:44And then the show's done.
24:45And then you have a month to breed.
24:47Then you have to get back into the show in August.
24:49True.
24:49I just think that sometimes you gotta just go and live some life and then come back.
24:56Do you know who's living life right now is the poor women in Miami who are on pause indefinitely.
25:00What do you think of Miami being on pause?
25:02I think Miami's gonna come back.
25:03You do?
25:04Okay.
25:04Thank God.
25:05Please.
25:05I mean, we were, we were so sad.
25:07We were so devastated because we, we are like big Miami stands.
25:10I love Miami.
25:11I also think if I was the Miami girls, I would get together and be like, all right, you move
25:17to LA, you bring your ass to Potomac, you go to Orange County.
25:21Like I would be trying my hardest to figure out divide and conquer and let's not all move
25:27at once.
25:27Oh, that's true.
25:28Like, let me go to, I'm gonna go to Orange County first.
25:30Oh, you go to LA.
25:32Cause you're from there, Larsa.
25:33Okay.
25:35There is a place where I can see those women going somewhere else.
25:38Yeah.
25:38I like that.
25:39Kind of like they, like dispant to go join some super groups.
25:41Yeah.
25:42Cause people are almost wondering if like, what will happen if Bravo continues to not
25:46want it, if they'll go the OG Roni way and be the golden life on E.
25:49They could, which I mean, I'm excited.
25:51Because they could literally just do the golden life colon Miami.
25:54You know what I mean?
25:55And it could be like a new, like sort of franchise.
25:57Oh, trust me.
25:57They are working that out right now.
25:59Oh, they were putting, and look at it.
26:01Look, they started filming in, you know, in the world.
26:04In Florida, they saw what they had.
26:06It was lightning in a bottle.
26:07Then they said, just go to the Hamptons.
26:09Keep on filming.
26:10Keep the fun going on.
26:11I think that show is going to be a runaway hit.
26:13Yeah.
26:14And it's going to open the door for OG Miami.
26:16Yeah.
26:16I know.
26:17I think that'd be cool.
26:17And how does it feel like, because of course, like E's been having such an up and down
26:21moment for E to kind of starting to be slowly rebuilding back like a programming slate.
26:27I have been at E for 10 and a half years.
26:30Yeah.
26:31When you get a new executive every two years, it's like your mom gets a new boyfriend and
26:37you're like, oh, here we go.
26:39I've seen you guys come and go.
26:42You know what I mean?
26:42Like you're like, oh, .
26:43Is it Dan?
26:45Oh, Don.
26:45Don.
26:46Hey, Don.
26:47See, like, you know, like, you're like, oh, here we go.
26:49Well, but honestly, this new team at E, I don't even care if I'm not working there,
26:55you know, after this year, I don't know what's going to happen with me.
26:59I'm just excited for what they're going to do.
27:01Cause they're so excited.
27:02They have fresh ideas.
27:04They're so like, they don't care.
27:06Like they don't care about back in the day, people would be like, oh, we can't do OGs
27:09because we'll step on Bravo's toes.
27:11They were like, no, actually get your ass over here.
27:13Bring your lawyer.
27:14Let's make this deal.
27:15And let's start shooting.
27:16They don't care.
27:17They're renegades.
27:18What do you think about the speculation that Jersey Shore might do the same?
27:20Because they got dropped by MTV.
27:22I mean, I feel like that could be really cool.
27:24And then apparently there's a rumor that Daniel Cabral could be joining the Jersey Shore.
27:27Listen, bring it over here.
27:28Also bring basketball wise.
27:30Oh, bring it all.
27:32Run me basketball wise.
27:33Yeah.
27:33I'm not mad at it.
27:34No.
27:35Also, I hope you know, if the E people, they sound smart now, they're going to keep you
27:39forever because like.
27:40Yeah.
27:40They better.
27:41They better.
27:42Are you kidding me?
27:43They better.
27:44You know, it's crazy.
27:46Cause I used to not be able to imagine E without Kat Sadler or E without Jason Kennedy
27:50or E without Ryan Seacrest.
27:52And I think it's like one of those things where like, I did a decade at a network.
27:57Like I'm good.
27:58Yeah.
27:59I Gucci.
27:59And I'm doing my first Emmys this year.
28:02Wow.
28:03How do you feel about that?
28:04You know, I feel really bittersweet about it because when I first started at E, I had
28:11an executive tell me that I will never be on the carpet.
28:15Shut up.
28:15What?
28:15She was like, you will never.
28:17And let me tell you, I appreciated it.
28:18She was Vickying you.
28:19She was like, you will never be on the carpet.
28:21Like we don't see you that way.
28:23We think that you are better suited at daily pop and with news and yada, yada, yada.
28:28Okay.
28:29I left that meeting and I thought to myself, you know what?
28:33Good for her.
28:34And thank you.
28:35Because had I stayed in that bubble and thought to myself, like, I'm going to keep
28:40on working these carpets, doing these carpets for free so that they could see that I could
28:44actually be there, I would be climbing up a tree that wasn't for me.
28:48That's true.
28:49What it made me do was, oh, let me find other things to do.
28:53So I started doing the Today Show.
28:55I did that for five and a half years.
28:57I started doing my podcast.
28:59Love that over there for three years.
29:02So what I liked was that honesty because it gave me the freedom to not put my eggs in
29:08that basket.
29:10So 10 years later to come back around and have a seat at the table that I was told not
29:15to, that I wasn't going to have, it all happened because I had all those experiences.
29:20You know what I mean?
29:21They start, it's like a network is like a man.
29:25If you're with your husband for eight years, it's fine.
29:28He knows when you're going to do it.
29:30He knows what you're cooking.
29:32The minute another man pays attention to you, that network is going to say, well, what did
29:38the Today Show think about that?
29:40What did they see in you?
29:42The minute the Today Show started paying attention to me, they were like, well, let's try to
29:46work something out.
29:48Interesting.
29:48That's amazing.
29:49That story kind of reminds me of when Kim Kardashian's first publicist said that she
29:52would never be on the cover of Cosmo.
29:54And then now she's on the cover.
29:55Look at her.
29:56I've ever seen that.
29:57Look at her.
29:57You are the Kim K of your own life.
29:59Can you say that one more time?
30:00You are the Kim K of your own life.
30:02I wish I had that money.
30:03One day.
30:04I wish I had that money.
30:04I'm actually going to see her tonight.
30:05Oh, really?
30:06I'm one of the girls.
30:08Wait, we interviewed the girls.
30:09We love the girls.
30:10We love it.
30:11And also like, there's drama.
30:12Malika's my girl.
30:13We love her.
30:14And she's bringing the drama in a good way.
30:15Oh, she don't care.
30:16She does not care.
30:17Tell Justin what we did.
30:18Well, because I asked her.
30:20Well, it's not what we did.
30:21We did.
30:21I was like, who's the messiest on the cast?
30:24And she's like, none of us are messy.
30:26And she said, Nicole, right?
30:28No, Natalie.
30:28Oh, Natalie.
30:29Sorry, Natalie.
30:30She said, none of us are messy, but I would consider Natalie to be self-centered and a narcissist
30:34and kind of as hard to take accountability.
30:35In front of Natalie.
30:36No, in front of us.
30:37And then we had to go ask Natalie right after.
30:40Be like, hey, so Malika said this.
30:42And she was like, what?
30:44She was about to cry.
30:45Nicole had to be like, no, she's actually really not.
30:47It was crazy.
30:49No, it's going to be crazy.
30:50Speaking of Nicole, so Malika in the trailer says that Nicole's man is cheating on her.
30:54So we asked Malika about that and she was like, oh yeah, I don't know why I said that because
30:58it like totally isn't true.
30:59And I apologize to Nicole about it because I just felt like we needed to have an in-person
31:03conversation.
31:04And then we chatted with Nicole and she was like, I haven't talked to her since the trailer
31:08dropped and I have not received an apology.
31:09So we like caused so much chaos.
31:13Malika Hawk is going to be baby girl of Q3.
31:16Okay.
31:17I can't wait.
31:18She's about to eat the girls up.
31:21She's going to be all over your timeline.
31:23I'm excited.
31:25You know what?
31:25First of all, she's unstoppable.
31:27She really is.
31:27Not only because she's smart and she gets it and she doesn't care.
31:31But when you had a twin sister who's ready to fight at a drop of a dime, when you have
31:37a twin sister who's ready to come out the corner and fight and when your best friend
31:43is executive producer, you know, you're going to get good stuff.
31:46I love that Chloe's having her whole TV show.
31:49It's genius too.
31:50And by the way, the concept, we've all wanted to know what goes on inside those friend groups.
31:56You know what I mean?
31:57Oh, totally.
31:57Also, she made this like boss ass move to ax their confessionals.
32:01They told us they filmed confessionals and she was like, I'm going to do them all.
32:04Chloe.
32:04Yeah.
32:04Isn't that amazing?
32:05No, no.
32:06It's genius.
32:08It's genius.
32:09It's perfect.
32:10I love it so much.
32:11It's really good.
32:12No, she gets it.
32:13And I mean, cause you were saying like you've been with E for over 10 years, which is incredible
32:16in such a feat.
32:17Was, is there a part of you?
32:18I mean, I feel like you do keep up with everything, but is there a part of you now?
32:21I feel like you keep up with the news cause you enjoy it.
32:23Does it feel nice at times?
32:24You don't always have to like report on it every single day.
32:28It's interesting.
32:31I miss, I had a daily talk show called Daily Pop.
32:34Yeah.
32:34And it was so fun.
32:35It was so much fun.
32:38Talking about, giving the news is one thing, but getting to dissect it and talk about it
32:43and gab, like you guys get to do it with people.
32:46The gabbing is so much fun.
32:48It is fun.
32:48You know what I mean?
32:49Like that to me is what I miss.
32:52And I also miss, no one's making celebrity fun anymore.
32:56Yeah.
32:57You know what I mean?
32:58Like it's weird.
33:00Celebrities are strange.
33:02Now may I say celebrities, their handlers are strange.
33:06Yeah.
33:07And it's this weird balance that I don't think anybody's really figured out yet.
33:13Like, you know, over here you have us and it's like, don't ask them personal questions yet.
33:20They'll go sit on call her daddy or some other podcasts and talk about the deepest dark secrets
33:26they have.
33:27So like we have to like kind of find a medium and we got to find a way to make
33:31celebrity
33:32fun again.
33:32Yeah.
33:33I also feel like to your point too, celebrities want to talk more than they are allowed to.
33:39Cause then also, cause I feel like that's why they're so uptight and stressed.
33:42Cause like, I don't know what I can say that I'm going to get in trouble.
33:44And it's like, if they were able to be more themselves, people would like them more.
33:47Oh my God.
33:47It's so crazy.
33:48And you know, I blame, I don't even blame the publicist.
33:53I blame once Twitter came about and once people weren't losing their jobs for saying the
33:58nastiest things about people that they didn't know, it's the comment section.
34:01Yeah.
34:02It's everybody up.
34:04Yeah.
34:04You know what I mean?
34:05Everybody's afraid of the comments.
34:07Yeah.
34:08People are worried about perception.
34:09I feel like, especially with the Love Island kids, I love Love Island so much.
34:12And I love like all the Islanders.
34:14But now that they're doing press outside of the show, like when you saw the top four doing
34:20watch what happens live, they were on mute.
34:23Like Andy was trying his hardest, but like, they just weren't saying anything because I think
34:27they were worried about jeopardizing a brand deal or something.
34:29It's all, it's just, I don't know.
34:31What was that one that was sitting up top?
34:33Oh, Anaya.
34:34And what's the man's name?
34:35Carl.
34:36Oh, bitch.
34:37Carl.
34:37Carl.
34:39Carl's hot.
34:40Oh, Carl.
34:40He's really hot.
34:41Yeah.
34:43He's so hot.
34:44I don't really mess with Love Island.
34:46I turned it on to watch, you know, Ariana do her thing.
34:50Cause I just like love that she's winning.
34:52I love her Emmy nomination.
34:54It's incredible.
34:54I hope she wins.
34:55I hope she wins.
34:56Sorry, Allen coming out for Maddox to win.
34:58By the way, she might, she might win.
35:00It's a cultural phenomenon.
35:01It's like the heated rivalry.
35:03Yeah.
35:04It's as horny.
35:05It really is as horny.
35:06Maybe even hornier.
35:07The fact that we have not done this with the gays is really crazy.
35:12You need to host that show.
35:13You do?
35:14Oh, bitch.
35:14I would get kicked out the house in two seconds.
35:17Also, I feel like the amount of editing they have to do to air it.
35:19Yeah.
35:20By the way, just don't even put cameras in the rooms.
35:23Do not.
35:23Wait, I just need you to just like be in the house and then just recap it every day.
35:27That's right.
35:28Like you don't understand what I'm saying.
35:30It would be, wait, why the hell have we not gotten a gay love island?
35:35Talk to your friends at E!
35:35It's so weird.
35:37It's Peacock.
35:38Like give us a gay love island.
35:40Yes.
35:40Although the girls would be, right?
35:42Right.
35:42The girls would be going crazy in there.
35:44Yeah.
35:44Oh yeah.
35:45You know, we tried it with Finding Prince Charming.
35:47I know.
35:47We were just talking about that with Monet exchange.
35:49Cause we were asking Monet if he would ever want to do a reality dating show.
35:53Cause you know, they really aren't for the gays quite yet, except for that one, Finding Prince Charming.
35:57And then the lead was like, found out to be an escort who did absolutely crazy on the internet.
36:01By the way, do not say his name three times.
36:03He will pop up like Beetlejuice and he will come for your ass.
36:06Is he in LA?
36:07I don't know where he is, but you don't want to know.
36:08You don't want to know.
36:09I don't even remember.
36:10You do not want to know.
36:11I don't remember his name.
36:12You do not want to know.
36:14I'm scared.
36:14No, you do not want to know this man.
36:17Okay.
36:17Have you met him?
36:18I have met him.
36:19He's so nice.
36:20I really like him.
36:21He's very handsome.
36:21He's very handsome.
36:22He's so nice.
36:23Cut this out.
36:27You don't want to know him.
36:29Well, they'll reboot it with you.
36:30They should do it.
36:31You know, they asked me to do it.
36:32Really?
36:32Wait, that show?
36:33They asked me to do that show right after him.
36:35Oh my God.
36:36Wait, like as a contestant or a lead?
36:38As a lead.
36:38And I was like, I don't think I could do it, you guys.
36:40Wait, really?
36:41There was too much heat on the show.
36:42Oh.
36:43There was a lot of heat.
36:45Were you ever approached about Real Friends of WeHo?
36:49Yes.
36:50Okay.
36:50I would imagine you were probably in this conversation.
36:52I would have assumed you were like one of the first names.
36:53No.
36:54What are your thoughts on the way that was ultimately executed?
36:56And why did you choose to maybe not defend it?
36:58And the fans just didn't love it.
37:01Here's my problem.
37:02Again, this is going to be a hot take.
37:04Okay.
37:06I tell people this all the time.
37:10How do I say this?
37:11I'm just going to say it.
37:13When you have a gay show, no matter if you like it or you hate it, as a gay person,
37:18you have to let that gay show ride, find its feet, and figure it out.
37:23Yeah.
37:24Maybe they didn't include everyone in this one.
37:27But you know what?
37:29Real Friends of WeHo could have turned into Real Friends of Dallas, could have turned into Real Friends of Brooklyn,
37:34could have turned into Real Friends of Murray Hill.
37:38We have to let gay shows breathe.
37:42And I need you to give the same energy that you gave to the two boys on Heated Rivalry to
37:47Real Friends of WeHo.
37:48That's true.
37:49It just people were mad at it before it even got off the ground.
37:54Yeah.
37:54And also it's a thing, if you go back to all the reality shows we're obsessed with, usually the first
37:59season when you rewatch it, you're like, oh, this wasn't even that good.
38:01Because it had to have some time to figure out everything.
38:04Yeah.
38:04And by the way, if straight people can be on their reality shows with all straight and white people, we
38:09can let Real Friends of WeHo have, you know, whatever they need to have.
38:12Yeah.
38:13We just need to let it get off the ground.
38:15Same thing about, you know, I say this about love and hip hop.
38:18Sometimes people are like, oh, my God, I hate love and hip hop.
38:21It makes black people look so bad.
38:23And it's like, I understand what you're saying.
38:25However, these are these people's lives.
38:27This is their reality.
38:29We have to let them ride.
38:30These people are making more money than they've made in their lives.
38:33They're supporting families off of this.
38:35Let them get the coin.
38:36And then when the real love and, you know, when love and R&B comes out, maybe it'll be some,
38:41maybe Jules Scott will do it.
38:43Oh, let's hope.
38:44But I know, because it's like, that is like their income source.
38:48And then also they're able to kind of have revivals in their career.
38:51And I always think that one is so good, too, because so many artists are now independent artists.
38:55It gives them the instant fans on the platform, the budget to make their music.
38:58We got Cardi B from love and hip hop.
39:00We got so many different people.
39:03We got K Michelle from love and hip hop.
39:05And what happens is, and you see in the love and hip hop franchise, you got Miami, you got Atlanta,
39:11you got New York, you got so many different ones.
39:13So as gay people, and I say this because I love Brad Goresky and he put himself on the show.
39:19Curtis and I are friends.
39:20Like, I know multiple people on that show, Joey and James.
39:24We have to let gay shows find their footing.
39:28Because the reason why people want green lit gay shows is because we as gay people.
39:33Reject them.
39:34Reject them.
39:35It's like gays don't want to see other gays win.
39:36Or not even reject, like boycott them.
39:38Yes.
39:38Yeah.
39:39I also think it was f***ed up that they put it right behind RuPaul's and Drag Race.
39:43And they cut the Drag Race shows in half.
39:44Exactly.
39:45They weren't even setting it up to fail.
39:46They set it up to fail.
39:48Wait, so were they talking to have you try to come on a little bit for it?
39:51No, what had happened was someone else who was going to get casted on the show put my name up.
39:58Okay.
39:59And this other guy put my name up.
40:00So when they called me, I was in an exclusive relationship with E.
40:05Oh.
40:06We weren't open at the time.
40:07And it was an MTV show, so.
40:08Yeah, we weren't open at the time.
40:10Had it come a year later, I was more open to do it.
40:16However, I'm not that good at reality TV.
40:19I feel like you would be.
40:21I'm not that good.
40:22Okay.
40:23And I know that about myself.
40:24That's good to know at least, but.
40:26I grew up with Muhammad Ali of reality TV.
40:28Right.
40:29Like I saw her knock bitches out and change her name.
40:32Like, you know, like that's who I grew up with.
40:34Yeah.
40:34So if I can't do it, like Cassius Clay.
40:38Right.
40:38I don't really want to.
40:39I can't.
40:40I'm not going to do it.
40:41Yeah.
40:41I love that.
40:42You because it's so funny that you know that because I feel like you just walk into a room
40:45and I'm like, there should be cameras up at you all the time.
40:47You really should.
40:48But that's gagging.
40:49I like to gag.
40:50That's true.
40:50I like to gag.
40:51But when the camera comes on and you'll learn this because you're going to get approached
40:55for a reality TV show and when you do it, there's something about a camera that your
41:01voice changes.
41:02Your whole demeanor changes.
41:04Like it's, it's a lot of work.
41:06I could also see someone like trying to come up to you with like some petty drama they
41:10have and you could just be like, I really don't care.
41:12And I don't like.
41:13I'm also a Scorpio.
41:14Oh, sweet.
41:15Okay.
41:15You got that stinger.
41:17So I'm on E.
41:18Yeah.
41:19Okay.
41:20All right.
41:21Thanks.
41:22Although we hated to see the backlash and we, you know, we want to let gay shows breathe
41:25a little bit.
41:26When you saw it, were you in some ways kind of relieved you weren't able to do it?
41:30No, I was mad that they didn't get a second season.
41:32So then I could do the second season.
41:34I see.
41:34Because I want everybody to work out what their, what their place is.
41:39Because a lot of times what happens in reality TV and you see it all the time is these
41:45shows start, you know, season one and everybody has in their minds who they're going to be.
41:51And if they see somebody else trying to be that person, that's when things get a little,
41:57things get a little messy.
41:58You know what I mean?
41:59So for me, I was like, oh, let's let them all work out what they're going to be season
42:03one.
42:03And then I can join season two or season three and do the damn thing.
42:07That's kind of the hack.
42:08I never thought of it.
42:09Yeah.
42:10Oh, no, no.
42:10You never want to be on a seat.
42:11By the way, it doesn't even pay to be on a season one.
42:14That's so true.
42:14You know what I mean?
42:15Like, let it, let it do.
42:16Probably like lose money.
42:17Because of that, that's what Candy was like, I'm going to see what Atlanta Housewives is
42:20all about before joining.
42:21One hundred percent.
42:22Yeah.
42:22And then she figured it out.
42:23And I'm pretty sure they've asked her a hundred times before that.
42:27But she was smart.
42:27You just have to like, see what it's about.
42:30Is there a part, because you are so like front facing on TV and entertainment now, but
42:34I love that you had a, like a history of producing TV.
42:38Does that ever, do you ever miss doing that?
42:39No.
42:40No.
42:41Okay.
42:41No.
42:44I was with Kyle for six years.
42:47I did Rich Kids for three years.
42:49And then I did EJNYC for one year.
42:53How fun.
42:53So I worked with him in New York.
42:55And it was working with those people that made me realize, oh, you have this lifelong dream
43:00of being on camera and wanting to be a TV host.
43:03You need to put yourself out there.
43:06And I just, for the life of me, feel like I belong front and center.
43:13Correct.
43:13But I also don't mind, like, I like this kind of thing.
43:16I like working with other people.
43:18Yeah.
43:18I don't need to be by myself.
43:20You know what I mean?
43:21I'm also like, I worked with two girls at Female Run Network.
43:25Like I was always the third sister.
43:27Okay.
43:28I was the Chloe back in the day.
43:30Yeah.
43:30Which we always loved Chloe.
43:31We loved Chloe.
43:32But here's what it is.
43:34They were trying to make Kim and Kourtney the jams.
43:36I see.
43:37Back in the cut.
43:38I was Chloe on the side, trying to find my place, trying to figure out where I was.
43:42Now I got my glow up.
43:44Right.
43:44And now people want to with me.
43:46Right.
43:46You really are Chloe-coded.
43:48No, we really are.
43:49And by the way, I get along with her so well.
43:51She and I just, every time we see each other, it's like, we shared a wound.
43:55You know what I mean?
43:56I love that.
43:57And I love her because she knows who she is.
44:01And she is not afraid to say that Kim is that bitch and that she's here because of Kim.
44:06Yeah.
44:07And I will say that about Kyle any day of the week.
44:09I love that.
44:10Aw.
44:10She's that bitch and I'm here because of her.
44:12And I love that you guys are still going strong and I love that also you're going to hang out
44:16with Kim Kardashian tonight.
44:17Yeah.
44:18What the hell?
44:19I know, right?
44:19Maybe JLo will show up.
44:20Maybe JLo will show up.
44:22Give me some skincare.
44:22Yeah.
44:23Oh yeah.
44:23The skincare is good.
44:24It smells really good.
44:25I'm telling you guys.
44:26You have to go see her in Vegas when she comes back.
44:27I would love that.
44:29I saw her for her 50th birthday celebration.
44:31Oh, it's a party.
44:32And it was amazing.
44:33It was so good.
44:34I saw it three times.
44:35Three times.
44:36I'm upset, but I'm telling you guys.
44:37You really are a JLover.
44:38Here's my thing.
44:39Here's what I love about a JLo show.
44:41Especially if you ever get her to see her in Vegas, you have to do it.
44:45It's not that I need to see the show every single time.
44:47I want to bring people who are like, hmm, that JLo show.
44:51Was it good?
44:52And I'm be like, you know what?
44:54Let's go next weekend.
44:55We got to bring Danny.
44:57Please bring Danny.
44:57No, please bring Danny.
44:58Because I like to see the look on their face when mama comes out in feathers.
45:0370 dancers turning that bitch out with a labia about to split out there.
45:08Now that is Vegas to me.
45:10That's Vegas.
45:10That's Vegas.
45:11That's Vegas.
45:11Like, I'm like, wait, is that Olivia?
45:13She's like, it's strip poker tonight, hon.
45:15Literally.
45:16So all the gays who are like, oh my God, was it fun?
45:18I'm like, let's go.
45:20So I end up bringing people and they end up going multiple times.
45:23Wow.
45:24You're starting a cult.
45:24No, mama puts on a show.
45:26Yeah.
45:27She really does.
45:28That's the thing.
45:28By the way, I don't care if you don't like country music.
45:31I don't care if you think Beyonce can't sing country.
45:33I didn't care for the country album.
45:35I knew mama was going to put on a show.
45:37Yeah.
45:37Because I immediately went to see Cowboy Carter.
45:39Because I was still listening to Renaissance when Cowboy Carter came out.
45:42I was like, oh, this is fun for her though, too.
45:44And I went to the tour and I was like, this is the best album I think ever.
45:47Did you go to New York when it rained?
45:49Yes.
45:49Were you there too?
45:50Bitch, I was there.
45:52And let me tell you something.
45:53It was life changing.
45:54Did you go to Cowboy Carter?
45:56He's just having the time of his life.
45:58Did you go to Cowboy Carter?
46:00I did not go to Cowboy Carter.
46:00Did you go to Renaissance?
46:01I did not.
46:02Do you know what?
46:02I spent all my money on the Eros tour.
46:04I can't even.
46:05You know what?
46:05No, I know.
46:06I made a choice.
46:06I made a choice.
46:07A bad one.
46:07I'm taking accountability.
46:08I did make a choice.
46:09Yeah.
46:10And I'm not even like the biggest one.
46:11Baby girl, you have a TV show.
46:12You can afford a Cowboy Carter.
46:14I know.
46:14Okay.
46:15So I went to Renaissance twice in Cowboy Carter.
46:17The third act, I'll be there.
46:18Okay.
46:18So let me tell you something.
46:20I, again, I live to take people to somebody who they've never experienced.
46:25And I'm going to take you.
46:26Please, please.
46:27I had this dude tell me, you know, this house music, like, oh, what is Beyonce doing?
46:32This Renaissance.
46:33Like, just give me Sasha Fierce.
46:34I'm like, have you seen her?
46:36The clips online?
46:37Yes.
46:38And he was like, I haven't seen anything.
46:40I said, you know what?
46:41Actually block her.
46:43Yeah.
46:44Block.
46:45It's what I do.
46:46The minute somebody is going on concert, I like to block all said, you know, activity.
46:51I don't want to see video clips.
46:53I don't want to hear reviews.
46:55I block it on my Instagram.
46:57I said out in two weeks, I'm going to take you here.
47:01We go to Renaissance.
47:02It's Beyonce's birthday.
47:04We're sitting on the side and she comes up out of that stage in that black Doce and
47:10Gabbana moment.
47:12Now I had given my friend a little mushroom right before we went and baby grew up.
47:18He was in tears.
47:18Oh my God.
47:19Because mama turned it out.
47:20Beyonce has, because I went to the birthday shows too in LA and I was just like, I'm
47:24sobbing.
47:25And it was so great.
47:26And I do love your, the blocking before you see a show, because it's funny.
47:29I saw one, me and my friends, we were like high up sections.
47:33And then it was like two months before the concert.
47:35And then I saw like a snippet of it.
47:37I was like, guys, I did just impulse buy us floor seats and you are all going to Venmo
47:41me when you can, but thank you for it.
47:43And then I didn't look at anything else.
47:44No.
47:44And it was the best thing.
47:45It's the greatest thing.
47:46And I don't care what she's going to put on this act three.
47:49I just let you know, she's going to give you a show.
47:52And so we're blue.
47:53So we're blue.
47:54I don't care if Britney's mic was off for half of 20, 2000s.
47:58You know what I mean?
47:59She's going to give you a show.
48:00Right.
48:00I don't care that shares 84 and barely moves.
48:03Mama is going to give you a show.
48:05That's right.
48:06Celine Dion.
48:06I don't care.
48:08She won't give you a show.
48:09You don't know any of the music.
48:10It.
48:11We're going to have a show.
48:12Uh-huh.
48:13She's like, I don't know the music either.
48:14We're just having a show together.
48:16There is a generation of artists who will give you a show.
48:22Yeah.
48:23I don't understand the Sabrina Carpenter lyrics.
48:26I don't understand the lore.
48:28What I do know is mama gives you a show.
48:31That's right.
48:31That's true.
48:31She learned from that.
48:32She did notes.
48:33Yeah.
48:33She did notes.
48:34Wait, what is your Mount Rushmore of like pop divas?
48:36Like your top four?
48:38First and foremost, I can't even put Whitney Houston.
48:42She's like the sun over the Mount Rushmore.
48:44You know what she did?
48:46She passed the legislation to get the Mount Rushmore.
48:49She don't need to be on there.
48:50I'm from the town over where she was buried.
48:51And in high school, I would just go visit it.
48:53Oh, 1000%.
48:53Westfield, New Jersey.
48:55Shout out to them.
48:55Yeah.
48:55So she's like, she's in the heavens looking at these holes and that burning themselves in the sun.
49:00I'm going to put on my Mount Rushmore.
49:04Yeah.
49:04I'm going to put Mariah Carey.
49:06Okay.
49:07I'm going to put Britney Spears because at a time when pop music was at its height, you couldn't tell
49:17me that you didn't see Britney doing her thing.
49:21Like when we all used to go home and watch the VMAs or behind the music or making the video,
49:27like TRL existed because Britney was there.
49:30Amen.
49:31So Britney's going right next to her ass.
49:33All right.
49:33All right.
49:34I love this.
49:35Okay.
49:36What you know, we're going to put Beyonce and we're going to put Kelly and Michelle's initials at the bottom.
49:43Okay.
49:43Yeah.
49:44They're at the bottom.
49:45So we're going to put her there.
49:46All right.
49:46Okay.
49:47Then I'm going to give you Jennifer Lopez.
49:49This is a perfect Mount Rushmore.
49:51And I'm going to tell you this why.
49:51I'm going to tell you why.
49:52Okay.
49:53Cause Mariah and Jayla have to be separated.
49:54Cause Mariah.
49:55They have to be separated.
49:55They have to be separated.
49:57No one fight in front of Beyonce.
49:58It's like, there are people, and I'm not going to say who they are, that thought Jennifer was Selena and
50:05that Selena was Jennifer because she played the part so well.
50:09That is very true.
50:10And if you could, cause every singer wants to be an actress and every actress wants to be a singer.
50:16When we're talking about Latino women coming up and figuring a way to break into a market and not having
50:24to go into another market to get into the pop market.
50:27Like Jennifer Lopez got off that movie and gave you if I had my love in a game and then
50:34came back with waiting for tonight.
50:36Yes.
50:37Like that first like run of hits.
50:39That first album was just impeccable.
50:41And also when you thought the world was going to end with Y2K and waiting for tonight was playing, you're
50:45like, is this how it ends?
50:45By the way, and you were watching Papa video.
50:48By the way, she, that woman ruled the world in a Manolo Blahnik Timberland high heel stiletto and a shimmery
50:58Bobby Brown, you know, Mac.
51:00Like just, she gave you a whole, 30 years.
51:03You know what I really think you could, you can be the person and it has to be on camera
51:07because you, it just deserves it, to sit Jayla and Mariah down.
51:10Oh my God.
51:12Yes.
51:12You're, you're the one to broke a piece.
51:14I could do it.
51:15Yeah.
51:15I think you can.
51:16No, I know you can.
51:16I really could do it.
51:17It's like rides on you, Justin Sylvester.
51:19It really could.
51:19But you know what I would need?
51:21I would need like.
51:22Good lighting.
51:23I would need the good light.
51:23Oh, I just walk around with the fluorescent lights.
51:26Have you ever seen her in an interview?
51:28I've just been able to witness when they film it and they change the lights.
51:31No, babe.
51:33There's a lighting man holding a panel.
51:36If she's on a red carpet, behind you is a man holding a light in front of her.
51:44And when she moves, he moves.
51:48That's what, that's what she deserves.
51:49That's what more celebrities deserve than they think.
51:51Oh, 1,000%.
51:52This is a diva.
51:54Again, if you ended up on Divas Live, you deserve to be in the stratosphere.
51:59Now, honorable mention.
52:02On the $5 bill, I'm giving Celine Dion.
52:04Okay.
52:05All right.
52:06Celine Dion is like my favorite.
52:07I love her.
52:07She deserves.
52:08Yeah.
52:09I'm gonna throw Gloria Estefan on the 10.
52:11Oh, okay.
52:11We were just talking about 100 dollars.
52:12We love Gloria.
52:13Gloria Estefan on the 10.
52:15What you know, Mary J. Blige, you on the 50.
52:17Okay.
52:18Yes.
52:18All right.
52:19This is a good list.
52:20It's a good list.
52:21And on the $100 bill.
52:23Who's on the $100 bill?
52:25Who's it going to be?
52:26Oh, my God.
52:27God rest her soul.
52:29Aretha Franklin.
52:29Okay.
52:30All right.
52:31McQueen of Shade.
52:33And on a nickel, I'm just gonna put Shaka Khan.
52:35Okay.
52:35Because I put Shaka Khan hard.
52:36For every woman.
52:37And I mean, I mean, Celine and Aretha, then they could recreate their...
52:39Yes.
52:41Do you guys remember those?
52:42Of course.
52:43Yeah.
52:43So formative.
52:45It really was.
52:45Those kids will never know that .
52:46You remember the day, what's her name, tried to out-sing Are...
52:49Celine tried to...
52:50And then she got down like,
52:51And Mariah was just there, happy to be there.
52:54Let me tell you something.
52:54Yeah.
52:55No, Mariah was loving.
52:57She...
52:58By the way, Aretha Franklin was probably one of the shadiest women in Hollywood.
53:02We're getting all the stories right now of how she was so shady.
53:07Yeah.
53:07I bet you, Mariah...
53:08Excuse my name.
53:09Look, I'm knocking your shit over.
53:11Mariah saw what was happening and backed up and encouraged Celine to keep on going because
53:18she knew it was going to piss Aretha off.
53:20So when you look at Mariah, you'll be like, that's like your brother looking at you about
53:26to get your ass ass with it.
53:27Like you're earning...
53:28Oh, okay.
53:29Oh, yeah.
53:30Oh, yeah.
53:30You go.
53:31She was like a producer.
53:32And I loved it when Carole King was interviewed about it.
53:33She was like, I don't know what's happening.
53:35She was like, I'm just witnessing all these amazing people.
53:37I don't know what's happening.
53:38It is the equivalent for all you young girls out there.
53:42When Nicole Schroesinger and Melanie Thornton...
53:47When Melanie Thornton decided to give herself a solo at the Billboard Music Awards...
53:53Google it.
53:54The look on Nicole's face.
53:56Nicole turned full Sunset Boulevard blood.
53:57Yeah.
53:58Like it was like...
53:58She was...
53:59She turned into Carrie.
54:00Do you know what's crazy though?
54:01Melody and Nicole are always commenting back and forth on each other's posts.
54:05Now I noticed they're like in a really good spot.
54:06Isn't that crazy?
54:09Yeah.
54:09And by the way, and somebody's on Lexapro.
54:11Oh, okay.
54:12Somebody's on Lexapro.
54:13If those two are back together, somebody's on Lexapro.
54:17There is not a post that neither comments on.
54:19They like love each other down.
54:21No, but also like, give me all five bitches.
54:23Okay?
54:24Yes.
54:24I want all five of those queens.
54:26I need my buttons loosened.
54:27Yeah.
54:27Come on.
54:28I can't loosen them with the two blonde girls.
54:31But God bless them.
54:32God bless them.
54:33God bless them.
54:34And God bless you.
54:35Justin, we could talk to you for so long.
54:36I love you guys.
54:36I love you so much.
54:38We love you too.
54:38I hope I came with something.
54:39You came with everything.
54:40I blacked out.
54:40Everything more.
54:41Yes.
54:41By the way, when a straight man laughs, you know it's in.
54:44When the straight town guys like cackling in the corner, I know it's a good time.
54:49And you're making him blush.
54:50Yes.
54:50I know it's a good time.
54:51Thank you so much, Justin.
54:52Oh my God.
54:52Anytime.
54:53I'll see you in New York City, I hope.
54:54Yeah.
54:54I broke your mic.
54:55Oh, that's how you know you did a great job.
54:56Mic drop.
54:57You literally did a mic drop.
54:57AnythingĂŞu nice.
55:02Yeah.
55:02I'm just kidding.
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