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03:45Ultimately, the job of the head of the commission is to implement this report.
03:48Is this also about connecting the dots between the public and the private?
03:51Who is your message ultimately addressed to?
03:54I think the message is going to be addressed to all Europeans.
03:59I mean, when we say the time to act is now, we say, hey, Europeans, notice that the technological race
04:06is proceeding without us.
04:08And the big decisions that affect the future of Europe are being taken in San Francisco and in Shanghai and
04:13in Guangzhou.
04:15That in Beijing, that message is for all of Europe to realize, hey, this is an important challenge.
04:22And I want to ask you about AI in a minute, but you say the message is addressed to all
04:26of Europe.
04:27I do have to ask you about some of the criticism that we've seen this week that says, when you
04:31look at the names, the country distributions, it is still very much led by Western names.
04:36Some of the European names that we've seen very much in the elite circles of Europe for 20 years.
04:40It's certainly not the same.
04:41No, you don't agree with that?
04:43No, no, no.
04:44We have many, many entrepreneurs below 30 years old.
04:49We have people who've set up amazing companies in Europe.
04:55We have the distribution geographic concern has come up, always comes up in Europe.
05:00There's always some areas who's going to feel underrepresented.
05:04We are in process.
05:06But you have one, but you only have one.
05:07It's a gentleman from the Baltics representing an entire blog.
05:10You're Spanish.
05:11If that had been done with Southern Europe, you would have said that's that's very not nice to say the
05:17least.
05:17And it's not very balanced.
05:19So are you working out?
05:20A lot of people, this is work in progress.
05:22They will see updates.
05:24It's not a done list.
05:25There's more names.
05:25They will see.
05:26There were, I mean, the list is done, but the published list is not done.
05:30What I mean is we were in, when we posted, we were in final discussions with some people and that
05:38will be updated.
05:38You also have a book that came out of this, Messy Jobs, on the impact of AI.
05:43We've seen once again this head of the European Central Bank saying she is concerned that Europe is really falling
05:48behind to the United States and China, which are throwing all of these resources and money into AI.
05:54Are we really behind?
05:55Have we lost this race entirely already?
05:57Yes.
05:57Messy Jobs, my book, is a hopeful book.
06:00It says that it's a book of the impact of the labor market, of AI on the labor market.
06:06I've been working on technology and the labor market my entire research career.
06:10And the book argues that jobs are not tasks, that the fact that the AI can do a particular task
06:15doesn't mean the job goes away.
06:17Jobs are much more messy.
06:18There is much more than we do.
06:20The book starts with a vignette from a family, you know, when you have all your kids ready to go.
06:26And in the morning, one of them says, I don't want to go swimming.
06:29And, you know, AI is not going to change the fact that you need to manage the situation.
06:33So that's what the book is about.
06:35It's about the impact of technology on the labor market.
06:38Our sense is this is going to be, it's written with two Chinese Hong Kong scholars.
06:45This is, our view is, this is going to be a gigantic change for humanity, AI.
06:51And we do think Europe is massively behind, for sure.
06:55Some would say the jobs are not going to be messy in the way that they operate and integrate with
06:59the AI.
07:00But in some places in Europe, they could just disappear altogether.
07:03What is the big concern when you look at the AI models in Europe that at this point dominates your
07:10thoughts, but also those of the Rhine group?
07:12What is the concern around AI?
07:14We, I personally believe that Europe needs to win the implementation race.
07:19We probably have lost the first stage of the technology and the infrastructure race.
07:26Largely, we're not going to be the ones doing the last language models that are the foundation models.
07:31But this market is going to be very competitive and we need to be the champions on that.
07:36Europe needs to be the best and stop putting so much barriers and start embracing it more proactively.
07:42Well, Luis Garagano, thank you so much for joining us on Euronews.
07:44I'm sure you've had a lot of emails about participants who would like to join the Rhine group this week.
07:50You've certainly made a splash, but of course now we look forward to seeing the work.
07:54Thank you so much, sir.
07:55Thank you very much.
07:56It's great to talk to you.
