00:00Conley not right man, says Mincy. The Atlanta Constitution. Friday, July 11th, 1913. Insurance
00:07man who made affidavit says conversation was with some other Negro saw Conley at station.
00:11It was disclosed Thursday afternoon that William H. Mincy, the insurance agent who has made an
00:16affidavit to the effect that Jim Conley on the date of the Fagan murder, drunkenly admitted that
00:21he had slain a girl had appeared at police headquarters during Conley's grilling and had
00:26positively failed to identify the Negro. This was told a Constitution reporter by Detective Harry
00:31Scott of the Pinkertons and Detective Chief Newport-Lanford. The insurance agent, they
00:36declared, had come to the police station while Conley was being cross-examined and had asked to
00:41see the prisoner. He wanted to see if he could identify Conley as the Negro whom he had seen
00:46drunk at the corner of Electric and Carter Streets on the afternoon of Saturday, April 26th. He was
00:52admitted to Conley's presence. After asking the Negro a number of questions pertaining to a
00:56conversation he had held with the black encountered at Electric and Carter Streets, Mincy, the detectives
01:02assert, declared he could not identify the suspect. He's not the man I saw, Lanford and Scott say,
01:08the insurance man declared. Conley was asked by Mincy on that date if he had not talked with him
01:13about the issuance of a life insurance policy. Conley denied having ever seen the man. Mincy,
01:18the detective say, was positive in his declaration that Conley was not the Negro with whom he had
01:23held the conversation, did not approach Detective Scott, said to the reporter last night,
01:28this man Mincy never made mention of Chief Lanford and me of having heard the Negro say he had killed
01:33a girl that afternoon. He never offered us any such story. He was so absolutely sure of his failure to
01:39identify Conley that we paid no more attention to him or his story. If we had heard any such story
01:45against Conley and could have verified it like the report says it is now verified, we would have
01:50immediately sworn out a warrant charging him with Mary Fagan's murder. Neither Lanford nor I put
01:56credence in the report of Mincy's affidavit. It looks flimsy from every standpoint. Mincy is said to
02:02have put into the hands of Frank's counsel a sworn statement declaring that on the afternoon of the
02:07Fagan muter he had encountered Jim Conley at the corner of Electric and Carter Streets and had
02:13approached the Negro on the subject of issuing life insurance. Conley, his statement is said to
02:18state, was drinking and refused the insurance offer. I killed a girl this afternoon. He is reported
02:23with having answered and I'm likely to be in jail tonight. He grew threatening the insurance man's
02:28states and to avoid trouble, Mincy walked away, investigating possible plant. It was announced
02:34from the Pinkerton offices last night that an investigation is being bade on the theory that
02:38the Mary Fagan pay envelope, which detectives Harry Scott and John Black located on the first floor
02:44of the pencil factory, was planted evidence. The envelope was found crumpled behind a radiator near
02:50the spot at which Conley is alleged to have sat on the first floor in waiting for his employer's
02:55summons to the second story. The nature of its evidence, it is said, is in direction of glue-it toward
03:01the Negro. Fight to free Lee attorney Bernard L. Chappell of Graham and Chappell, representing Newt Lee,
03:08the Negro night watchman of the National Pencil Facultry, stated last night that he had secured
03:13subpoena for 50 witnesses to appear at the hearing of the habeas corpus at 10 o'clock Saturday morning,
03:19and that on that occasion he would ask of the court an instanter order to bring Leo M. Frank and
03:24James
03:24Conley into court to testify about Lee. A subpoena deuces tecum has also been issued requiring
03:30Solixior General Hugh M. Dorsey to bring into court the grand jury docket and all papers referring to
03:36the case of Lee, who was bound over be the coroner's jury at the same time that Frank, afterwards indicted
03:41for the murder of Mary Fagan, was ordered held. Solicitor Dorsey, his assistant E. A. Stevens, Detective
03:48Chief Newport-Lanford, Pinkerton Detective Harry Scott, and City Detectives John Black and Starnes and
03:54Campbell are also named in subpoenas. In addition to these, Lee's attorneys have had subpoenas issued for
03:59E. F. Holloway, day watchman at the factory, and for L. H. Beck, foreman of the grand jury,
04:05and for the foreman of the present grand jury, and for a number of others to be present.
04:09The fight will be made to free Lee on the grounds that he has not been indicted by two grand
04:14juries,
04:15and that there is no legal reason for holding him further. Fingerprints may fix guilt. Mary Fagan's
04:21mesh bag pocketbook, the one she carried to the pencil factory on the day of her tragic disappearance,
04:26has been found on the scene of her murder, and fingerprints that are said to be lodged on its
04:31surface are expected to reveal the murderer. It was rumored around police headquarters Thursday
04:36afternoon. Secrecy as impenetrable as that thrown around any phase of the investigation has been
04:41woven about this latest discovery. No one connected with the case will talk. Few deny, however, that the
04:47bag has been found. The report prevalent around headquarters is that the bag was found about the
04:52same time of the envelope discovery. It has been kept secret, it is said, because of the reported
04:57success of Bertillon experts in discerning fingerprints on its surface. Bertillon expert L. M. Fletcher of
05:04the United States government service, it is reported, made the fingerprint examination. Chief Lanford would
05:09not commit himself, and neither would Solicitor Dorsey. Chief Beavers maintained the same attitude of
05:14silence that has been characteristic of him during the entire Fagan investigation. Other than the rumor
05:20which came from responsible source, reporters could gain no further proof of the reported discovery.
05:26Bertillon experts who examined the pay envelope, it is stated, have been unable to find fingerprints
05:32thereon. Only one side of the envelope was discovered, the lower side had been torn away.
05:38This condition of the clue has added mystery to its connection with the case.
05:41various