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‘ALL OF YOU ARE LAWYERS, KINDLY DON'T SPEAK AT THE SAME TIME'

Presiding Officer Chiz Escudero reminded prosecution counsel Jay Tolosa, defense lawyer Sheila Sison, and witness Atty. Michael Poa not to speak at the same time during the 21st day of the impeachment trial. He gave this reminder after Tolosa and Poa argued over the liquidation report, while Sison objected, saying the prosecutor was badgering the witness. (Video courtesy of Senate of the Philippines)

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00:00...to handle the liquidation report?
00:01Yeah, you know, no question ko. You did not, correct?
00:03I wouldn't know what they did with the liquidation report.
00:06No, I'm asking about that.
00:08Well, counsel is badgering the witness on that.
00:10That is not badgering.
00:10Um, counsels, all of you are lawyers.
00:13Kindly don't speak at the same time.
00:15Avoid speaking at the same time.
00:17I think...
00:17I think the date was September 29, Your Honor.
00:20So, uh, to answer your question,
00:22uh, hindi pa nasasubmit yung liquidation report nung PMN.
00:26Yes, hindi pa nasasubmit.
00:27Nung time na nagkaroon kayo ng meeting,
00:29hindi pa nasubmit yung liquidation reports
00:31for the third quarter.
00:33Now, I asked you a while ago,
00:35no, you're very clear that your first,
00:39um, the first time that you got involved with confidential funds
00:43is when you received the AOM.
00:45No?
00:45Una-una muna, clearly,
00:47medyo hindi ho accurate yun, no?
00:49Dahil nga pinag-usapan nyo na,
00:50sorry, confidential funds.
00:52Yung confidential funds nung September meeting.
00:54Now, sinab...
00:56Ibig sabihin din,
00:57hindi...
00:58Tama ho ba?
00:58Hindi din kayo na-involved.
01:00Yan ang sinabi nyo kanina
01:01sa pag-submit
01:02nung mga liquidation reports for third quarter.
01:05That's clearly what you state a while ago.
01:07Correct?
01:07Yes, yes.
01:08Okay.
01:08So, even after that meeting was conducted
01:11or according to you,
01:13you wanted to get clarification
01:15on how to comply with JC 2015-01,
01:19itong natutunan nyo,
01:20parang hindi nyo ginamit
01:22nung nag-submit ang COA,
01:24sorry,
01:25ang DepEd
01:25nung liquidation reports
01:27noong 2013
01:28dahil hindi ka naman naging...
01:31hindi ka nagkaroon ng partisipasyon.
01:33Tama?
01:34Your Honor,
01:34because ang DepEd
01:35hindi napag-usapan sa meeting na yun at all.
01:38DepEd confidential funds
01:39were not part of the meeting.
01:40In fact,
01:41when we asked COA,
01:42meron ba kayong gustong sabihin sa DepEd
01:44because nandun naman yung DepEd Finance
01:46at yung STO,
01:47sabi,
01:47hindi pa namin na-audit yung DepEd.
01:49Tama.
01:50Okay.
01:50Pero,
01:50pinag-usapan nyo kanina,
01:52in general,
01:52how to apply the JC 2015-01,
01:55those were your statements,
01:56correct?
01:56Yes, yes.
01:57Okay.
01:58So, yun ang point ko.
01:59Kahit natutunan mo
02:00during that meeting,
02:01paano gamitin ang JC 2015-01,
02:04hindi mo ginamit yung kalaman na yan
02:06nung nagsubmit na kayo
02:07noong third quarter.
02:07It was not my responsibility,
02:09Your Honor,
02:10to handle the liquidation report.
02:12Yeah, yun lang ang question ko.
02:12You did not.
02:13Correct?
02:14You wouldn't know what they did
02:15with the liquidation report.
02:16No, I'm asking about-
02:17Well, counsel is badgering
02:19the witness of the ADA.
02:20That is not badgering.
02:20Um,
02:21counsels,
02:22all of you are lawyers,
02:23kindly don't speak at the same time,
02:25avoid speaking at the same time.
02:27I think the point is quite clear,
02:29um,
02:29in regard to, um,
02:31Attorney Jay's question
02:33and Attorney Powa's answer.
02:35Um,
02:36and if I remember correctly,
02:38it was primarily called
02:40for the OVP,
02:41and he happened to be there
02:43as, um,
02:45Under Secretary of DepEd
02:47that he indeed spoke,
02:49but I think the issue at that time
02:50was with respect to the OVP.
02:52Correct, Attorney Powa?
02:53Yes, Your Honor.
02:54Okay.
02:55We heard that loud and clear
02:56to Attorney Jay.
02:57Please proceed.
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