00:00I will not put you on the spot, Commissioner Malilin.
00:04But when I was listening to the explanation and the provisions behind the joint memorandum,
00:18without going through or talking about any particular case,
00:25I find it, I think there are some loopholes in that particular joint memorandum circular.
00:38And you yourself were saying, and I wanted to ask you,
00:45because I strongly believe that it should be revisited.
00:48Do you think that it should be revisited?
00:50Yes, we agree.
00:52Yeah, because there's a problem there.
00:54For example, doon sa role of a disbursement officer,
01:00siya ba talaga yung tanging nag-iisa na magdi-disburse lahat ng funds,
01:06sa lahat ng informants sa buong Pilipinas?
01:08You don't expect, I mean, I don't think COA is expecting a single individual who would do that.
01:15or pupwede ba up to what extent the disbursement officer would be able to delegate.
01:25Dahil doon sa memorandum, hindi.
01:28And, you know, I'm also interested on this particular issues because ang mga LGUs mayroon din eh,
01:36mga local government units.
01:38And I think, you know, during the hearings,
01:42may mga LGU officials asking or texting me,
01:47parang takot na takot na din sila.
01:49How do they use their intelligence funds, etc.
01:53Yung iba ayaw na.
01:54Yung iba sinasabi naman na hindi namin afford na hindi gamitin,
01:58kailangan talaga namin, etc.
02:01Sir, please.
02:02Magandang tanong ho yun.
02:04Ganito po.
02:06Sa Joint Memorandum Circular,
02:08ang requirement po,
02:10the SDO must be the one personally
02:13to hand over the cash
02:15doon sa recipient.
02:17Dahil po, at the end of...
02:18End user to, no?
02:19Yes po.
02:20Sa end user.
02:21Yes po.
02:21Because po,
02:23magbibigay po itong SDO
02:25ng certification
02:25na inabot nga po niya
02:28yung pera sa tao na to.
02:30Wala pong limitasyon
02:32kung ilang SDO po
02:33ang pwedeng gamitin po
02:36ng isang opisina.
02:37Kung lokasyon po ang problema,
02:40tulad ho nung simula po
02:41apari hanggang hulo,
02:43ang kailangan hong bigyan
02:45na sa head of agency
02:47o na sa ahensya po
02:48ang pamamaraan
02:50kung sino ang assigned SDO.
02:53Ang importante lang ho sa SDO
02:55ay may mga requirements po eh.
02:59Accountable officer,
03:01bonded,
03:02at ang...
03:03Wala naman po sinatawag tayong
03:06ang...
03:06Iisa lang po pwede.
03:08Ang ginagawa po ay
03:10to make everyone accountable.
03:12Lalong-lalong na ho
03:14kung malaki-laki ho yung pera.
03:16Iba-ibang SDO
03:17dahil iba-iba naman po
03:19yung programa.
03:20Programming agencies.
03:22They split the SDOs po
03:24because
03:25ang importante po
03:27ay maparating ho yung pondo
03:29at yung SDO po
03:31dapat kakilala rin po niya
03:33yung pinagbibigyan.
03:34Dahil yung...
03:35Ang magbibigay ho
03:36ng acknowledgement receipt
03:37o yung tinatawag namin
03:39documents evidencing payment
03:41ay yung mismo pong kaharap niya.
03:45Meron pa nga hong
03:46pangalawang dokumento
03:48o libro
03:48na nire-require sa SDO po.
03:50Hindi lang po po yung
03:52tinatawag namin
03:53acknowledgement receipt.
03:55Ito po yung...
03:56Meron pong journal requirement po yan
03:58na tinatago niya
03:59nilalagay sa vault.
04:01It's na sa Joint Memorandum Circular po.
04:12Sa military po,
04:15iba ang proseso
04:17ng mga dokumento.
04:19Pero meron pong libro
04:20na required na...
04:23Ah, sige.
04:23Yung...
04:24Yung lang po.
04:25Basta,
04:26yung SDO po
04:26can be multiple.
04:28There is no limit.
04:29As long as
04:30proper management
04:31and proper bonding
04:33and accountability
04:34can be added.
04:34Yes, because it would be
04:35extremely impossible
04:37for just one person
04:39to distribute
04:39all these
04:41funds
04:43nationwide.
04:44So, yun.
04:45Ano ho?
04:46Ano sa akin yun, no?
04:47Game changer yun.
04:48Yung nasabi yun.
04:49Hindi naman kailangan
04:50isa lang.
04:51And another thing
04:52that I'd like to ask
04:53in the Joint Memorandum
04:56Circular,
04:57on the issue of rewards,
05:00yung success
05:01successful dapat
05:03bago bigyan
05:04ng reward, no?
05:06And,
05:08sa militar,
05:09sa LGUs,
05:12sa matter of policy,
05:14when you're buying
05:15an information,
05:16definitely,
05:17you don't expect
05:19them to give you
05:19an official receipt.
05:21Unlike if it is
05:22medicine
05:23or equipment
05:25or gamit
05:27office equipment, no?
05:29But if you're
05:30trying to get
05:31information,
05:34yeah,
05:34I would assume
05:35yung acknowledgement
05:36receipt
05:38will suffice.
05:40But,
05:41can you use it
05:43for reward
05:44system?
05:45Because
05:45the
05:47Joint
05:48Circular
05:49is very strict
05:50on the use of
05:51the category
05:52reward
05:53na dapat
05:54successful.
05:55And then,
05:56how do you
05:56define
05:57successful?
05:58When you
05:58prevent
05:58something
05:59from
05:59happening,
06:01a bad
06:01thing that
06:02would happen,
06:02na prevent
06:03ng
06:03information,
06:05et cetera,
06:07that's
06:08considered
06:08successful.
06:09Pero,
06:10who would
06:11also
06:11say
06:11na
06:13successful?
06:14I mean,
06:16I'm sorry,
06:17I have
06:17multiple
06:17questions
06:18there,
06:18but I
06:18think you
06:19get my
06:19point.
06:20And I
06:20just want
06:20to be
06:21clarified
06:21as to
06:22what we
06:23can do
06:23and how
06:24we can
06:24improve
06:26and clearly
06:27explain to
06:28the public
06:28our current
06:29policy.
06:32Thank you
06:32for the
06:33question,
06:33po.
06:34Our
06:35present
06:35Joint
06:35Memorandum
06:36Circular,
06:37under
06:38Clause
06:394.8.
06:40Dito po
06:41nakalista
06:41kung saan
06:42pwedeng
06:42gastusin
06:43ang
06:43confidential
06:44funds.
06:45Magkaibang
06:46magkaiba
06:46po ang
06:47purchase
06:48of
06:48information.
06:49Ito po
06:50yung unang
06:50paragraph,
06:51yung unang
06:52numero.
06:53Yung
06:54payment of
06:54rewards to
06:55informers,
06:56kakaibang
06:56gastus po.
06:58Pag
06:59tinignan po
06:59nyo yung
07:00payment to
07:00informants,
07:02simple
07:03simple
07:03lang po
07:04ito.
07:04Kailangan
07:05lang po
07:05ito
07:06para
07:06pag-formulate
07:07ng
07:07programa,
07:08mga
07:09aktibidades
07:09at
07:09mga
07:10proyekto
07:10for the
07:12national
07:12security
07:12and
07:13for
07:13peace
07:13and
07:13order.
07:16Pag
07:16reward po
07:17ang pinag-uusapan
07:18ho natin,
07:19kakaiba.
07:20Pag
07:20sinabi
07:21ho
07:21nating
07:21reward,
07:22may
07:22kaakibat
07:23na
07:23success.
07:25At
07:25mas
07:26mahigpit
07:26po
07:26ang pag-audit
07:27ng
07:27reward.
07:28Ang
07:29sinasabi
07:29ho,
07:30the
07:30moment
07:31we
07:31pay
07:31rewards
07:32to
07:32informers,
07:33ang
07:34unang
07:34condition
07:35ho,
07:35hindi
07:35pwedeng
07:36empleyado
07:37ito
07:37ng
07:37ahensya.
07:39So,
07:39dapat ho,
07:41outside the
07:42agency.
07:42Ang
07:43pangalawang
07:43condition
07:44ho,
07:45dapat
07:45approve
07:45ho ito
07:46ng
07:46ulo
07:47ng
07:47ahensya
07:47or the
07:48head
07:48of the
07:48agency
07:51and if it is a
07:52GOCC
07:53yung
07:53chairman
07:54po
07:54ng
07:55kanyang
07:55board.
07:56Yung
07:56pangalawang
07:57requirement
07:58po,
07:59it is
07:59supported
07:59with
08:00documents
08:00evidencing
08:01the
08:02success
08:02of the
08:03information
08:03gathering
08:04and
08:05surveillance
08:05activities.
08:07Hindi ho
08:08ito
08:08limitado
08:09sa
08:09pag-aresto
08:10dahil
08:11kaya nga
08:12ho
08:12nabigan
08:12na
08:12reward.
08:13Hindi
08:13kailangan
08:14na
08:14ma-convict
08:15bago
08:15mabigay
08:16reward.
08:17Importante
08:18lang po,
08:18may
08:18positibong
08:19nangyari
08:20at
08:21yung
08:21reward
08:22kaya
08:22ho
08:22inaabot.
08:23Pag
08:24wala
08:24pa
08:25ho
08:25success,
08:26assuming
08:26gusto
08:27lang
08:27ho
08:27natin
08:28ayusin
08:29yung
08:29programa
08:30o
08:30yung
08:30confidential
08:31activity,
08:32hindi
08:32po
08:32reward
08:33yun.
08:33Payment
08:34of
08:34information.
08:35Explain
08:36further
08:36yung
08:36third
08:37ninyo.
08:38How
08:39yung
08:39binanggit
08:40po
08:40ninyo,
08:40I'm
08:41sorry,
08:41I might
08:42not
08:42be able
08:42to
08:43catch
08:43some
08:43phrases
08:44you
08:44mentioned.
08:45Doon
08:45sa
08:45third,
08:45yung
08:46sa
08:46una,
08:47yung
08:47success,
08:48not
08:49approving
08:50the
08:52reward.
08:53then
08:53yung
08:53third,
08:54base
08:55po
08:55sa
08:55joint
08:55memorandum
08:56circular,
08:57ulitin
08:57ko po,
08:58it
08:58must
08:59be
08:59supported
09:00with
09:00documents
09:01evidencing
09:02the
09:02success
09:03of
09:03the
09:03information
09:04gathering
09:04or
09:05surveillance
09:06activities
09:07on account
09:08of the
09:08information
09:09given
09:10by the
09:10informer.
09:12So,
09:13kailangan
09:14may
09:15prueba
09:15ng
09:15success.
09:16Kung
09:17very
09:17general
09:17po
09:18yung
09:18wording
09:18ng
09:18success,
09:20medyo
09:22proof
09:23there,
09:23the
09:23latest
09:25statement,
09:25the
09:26proof
09:26there
09:26would
09:26be
09:27nothing
09:27happened.
09:29Sabihin
09:30lang
09:30po
09:30natin
09:30we're
09:30looking
09:31at
09:31PIDEA.
09:33Nag-ganoh
09:34siya,
09:34nag-surveillance.
09:36Binigyan
09:37ho
09:37niyan,
09:38noong
09:38una,
09:39nagbigay
09:39ho
09:39siya
09:39ng
09:41payment
09:41for
09:42information.
09:43So,
09:44based
09:44on
09:44that,
09:45natiktikan
09:46po silang
09:47let's
09:48say po
09:48courier
09:49or pusher.
09:50The
09:51moment
09:51po,
09:52based
09:52on
09:52that
09:52information,
09:53nahuli
09:54po yung
09:54pusher,
09:56ang
09:56mangyayari
09:57po
09:57dyan,
09:58so,
09:58may
09:59payment
09:59of
10:00success,
10:01ang
10:01prueba
10:01po
10:02could
10:02be
10:02affidavits
10:03of
10:03arrest
10:04of
10:04police
10:05personnel,
10:07detention,
10:08mga
10:08litrato
10:09po
10:09na
10:10nangyari
10:10ito
10:10nung
10:11panahon
10:11na
10:11to,
10:12nahuli
10:12ito
10:12dahil
10:13sa
10:13impormasyon
10:13na
10:14to.
10:15Hindi,
10:16kung
10:16acknowledgement
10:17receipt
10:18lang po
10:18ang
10:18binigay
10:18natin
10:19for
10:19reward,
10:20it
10:21will
10:21not
10:21comply
10:21po
10:22with
10:22this.
10:23So,
10:24ang
10:24mangyayari
10:25ho
10:25dyan,
10:25disallowed
10:26ho
10:26kaagad,
10:26dahil
10:27hindi
10:27ho
10:28napatunayan
10:29yung
10:29success.
10:29ho
10:30ho
10:42napatunayan
10:43ho
