00:00I wouldn't use a one anyway because I don't, I don't, like, I do have the internet but I don't
00:08trust it, to be quite honest with you.
00:10I'm very old-fashioned in my ways and I think that I would never scan a QR code, ever.
00:17I do because I have heard about the scam, so yes, it would make me second guess, first of all,
00:21before I actually, you know, struck my card. Yeah, it would.
00:24I do, but I think some of these scams are getting very sophisticated and I think people need to be
00:32careful about QR codes.
00:36When everything was just cash, it did seem that way. Yeah, it was a lot easier, you knew what you
00:40were handing over and it was a fair exchange, so yeah, it was easier.
00:44I think the internet technology, phishing emails, QR code scams, there's all sorts of stuff that they've now been done
00:53in a very, very sophisticated manner.
00:56It's a big problem, I think.
00:59Maybe just have the app on your phone and you just pay with that and then there's no extra contact
01:04with anything else, you just pay there and then I think, rather than actually tapping the app anywhere else.
01:10I think it's difficult. I think if you're digitally kind of savvy, that's okay, but there are many, many millions
01:18of people who are not, who are not sophisticated in the digital space and I think they've got to educate
01:26themselves and society has to do a job of helping them.