00:00Hello, sir.
00:35It's been 11 months since we entered this office. Almost 11 months.
00:41And the work is not easy.
00:44It is something that has to be done thoroughly.
00:49It has to pass several legal tests before we file cases.
00:55We want to try to avoid recognizing this office.
00:59It is only on cases that have bearing that we file in court.
01:08Ayaw namin ma-file ang kaso na hilaw.
01:10Gusto namin, nandiyan na lahat ng aming nakahandang ebidensya.
01:15At bumubuo ang legal theory.
01:18So dito, yun ang ginawa namin.
01:20At hindi ko magdali ang naging proseso.
01:24Ngunit sa habang ng prosesyon,
01:27sa kasabihan, sa simbahan din ang dating.
01:30At ngayon, nandun na sa Sandigan Bayan,
01:33ang kaso na, ang reklamong inihayay namin na mula sa taong bayan.
01:43Kasi kami ang, we represent the people in this office.
01:50Kaya, that's for Plunder.
01:53At meron pang mo co-accused si Speaker,
01:56former Speaker Maitin Romandes, sa kaso nito.
01:59Masama si Sandy Cote, isang nagtatabaho sa kanyang bahay,
02:06na magmalaking ang papel.
02:16At isang money changer,
02:20na gumawa ng paraan para may labas ang mga pera
02:25mula sa Pilipinas, papunta sa ibang lugar.
02:28O kaya, papunta sa mga binayaran mga bahay
02:31na binili.
02:32May former Speaker Romandes,
02:33ang pangalan ng sangalan ng iba't ibang mga kumpanya.
02:38Okay? Meron kayong mga katanungan?
02:41Sir, good afternoon.
02:43I have a few questions ako.
02:44Number one is Sir,
02:45sa Pilipinas kasi natin, merong in-establish na kailangan may main plunder cases.
02:51In this case po,
02:52sino po ang tinaturo ng main plunder na ombudsman?
02:55Si Martin Romandes po ba?
02:57Or is that who's the main plunder?
03:00Pareho sila.
03:01Tsaka, eto,
03:04kahit naggamitin mo yung doktrinang yan,
03:06na napakalabo ha, sinasabi ko dyan.
03:07Yan, doktrinang yan.
03:09Ina-aaralin ulit ng Sukkot yung Suprebo yan,
03:11kung iyong palin ang gagamitin.
03:13Pero,
03:15sobrang daming pera nito.
03:17Maraming plunder talaga nito.
03:19Lampas na past 50 billion to.
03:217.4 billion ang binag-uusapan nito.
03:24Kaya parang hindi na siya kailangan sa usapan
03:26ng main plunder theory.
03:28E, alam naman naman yan,
03:29yung theory niyan.
03:31E, re-revisit yan ang Suprebo.
03:32Sigurado ako dyan.
03:33Kasi hindi pwedeng malahid yung kanyang pakiisip.
03:36Kasi that is meant to protect plunderers,
03:40not to convict them.
03:42Sir, again, under the jurisprudence,
03:44yung sa plunder case mo,
03:4550 billion,
03:46na kailangan ill-gotten wealth po yun.
03:49To elage someone, yung accused po.
03:51Yung 7.4 billion pesos na yun, sir,
03:54na sinabi niyo kung series of transactions,
03:56ang po yun?
03:57Transaction of bribe na nakuha ni Romualdez,
04:00transaction sa allocables o sa insertions,
04:02or combination of all?
04:03Combination of all.
04:05Tandaan nyo,
04:05sa patas natin,
04:07kahit na private funds pa yan,
04:09na nag-galing sa contractor,
04:10papasol.
04:11Yung, yung,
04:12yun na ill-gotten wealth pa rin eh.
04:14Hindi naman sinasabi ng,
04:15ng batas na dapat,
04:17public money yung kinuha mo eh.
04:19Kailangan marami malabong understanding dyan.
04:22Some people are not too keen on many of these things
04:25because it serves as an excuse for them
04:27to acquit or to give bail or to do something that is not right.
04:33Just a few more, sir.
04:35Today,
04:35na raffle na po sa 3rd Division,
04:37yung plundered case.
04:39And,
04:39in the 3rd Division,
04:40this is the same division that handles the Rebilla case,
04:42and the Marcoleta,
04:43and other stuff.
04:44But,
04:45with regard to the Rebilla case,
04:47meron pong pending na motion for inhibition ng ombudsman.
04:50Yes.
04:50What's your reaction na same division?
04:52Well,
04:53the Supreme Court will have to do something about this.
04:55Because it's a dilemma of our justice system.
04:57That when something is in doubt already,
05:00will you push through with a kind of setup?
05:02The Supreme Court has plenary power over this.
05:05Then they can actually change it
05:07when they see that it is not right
05:09to keep the same people there.
05:12Maybe one or two of them.
05:13For my last question, sir.
05:15Kahapon po nagstatement ang lawyer ni Martin Romualdas,
05:18si Atty. Ade Fajardo,
05:20na kung meron pong mga statement
05:22na gagamitin from Secretary Bunuan,
05:25dapat mag-i-aware sila.
05:27At kalapatan doon nila to respond to that.
05:29For my last question,
05:30Sir,
05:30nagamit na po ba natin yung testimony ni Bunuan dito,
05:32at nabigyan po ba sila ng chance to respond?
05:35Hindi.
05:36Malato sa kaso nito.
05:36Hindi.
05:37Hindi.
05:37Hindi pa sama si Secretary Bunuan sa kaso nito.
05:41Thank you, sir.
05:41Okay.
05:46Sir,
05:46Ito pong kaso kay dating speaker,
05:50ay may tuturing po natin na
05:52kolektado pa rin sa blood control project
05:54or ito ay nakasentro lang dun sa
05:57sa bribery, sa kickback, or everything?
06:00Ano ba yan? Ano ito eh?
06:02Itong kasong to,
06:03flood control is part of it.
06:05Pero ang tigin namin kasi eh,
06:06kung pinakaaral namin yung mga pangyayari,
06:08maraming peron dito sa saan pinagalingan.
06:11Pero, ilgatan pa rin yan.
06:12Kasi by reason of the office.
06:15Ano yan eh?
06:17Samutsari yung pagkakataong kumita ng pera.
06:19Kahit bawal, ginawa.
06:23Okay.
06:25Sa follow-up ko lang po, sir.
06:28Ito ho ba, may tuturing na ho natin
06:30na ito na yung pinaka big fish
06:33sa kaso na may kinalaman sa blood control?
06:36Sa ngayon.
06:37Sa ngayon.
06:38At hindi pa naman ito yung huling kaso eh.
06:41Sunod-sunod pa ito.
06:43At maraming pa kami ang pang-failan.
06:45Maraming pa kami ang pang-failan.
06:47Ito lang, pag iba-iba ito.
06:48Kasi alam naman natin,
06:51hindi iba si Martin Romantes sa akin
06:54o sa presidente o kahit kanina man.
06:56Ngunit ito,
06:57ito yung aming obligasyon sa bayan
07:01na gawin ng tama.
07:03Ito lang ang pinatutubad natin dito.
07:05Wala ho itong sinisino.
07:06Wala ho itong ginagalang na
07:09o kaya iniiwasan na pangalalaan.
07:12Lahat po ito ay base sa ebidensya.
07:15Yung may malaga dito eh.
07:16Itong kasong to,
07:17talagang pinabapatunay na hindi ho kami
07:20kumigilig kahit kanino.
07:23Ang gusto lang namin dito,
07:24managot ang dapat managot.
07:26Sabi ko nga, ilang araw na ako sa salita
07:29na galing ako sa Senado sa budget.
07:31Nung Sabado meron kaming radio program.
07:36Ilang beses ko na sinasabi yan eh.
07:38Ngayon dapat,
07:39gawin natin ang paraan.
07:40Isahe na gusto nyo ipakita sa taong bayan?
07:44Alam nyo ho,
07:45hindi ho madaling gumawa ng kaso.
07:48Ito ho, base sa ebidensya.
07:50Tumagal kami ng labing isang buwan.
07:52Sa labing isang buwan na kami dito,
07:53itong kasong to,
07:55itong kasong to,
07:55simimulan namin na Enero.
07:57Hinabot kami ng,
07:59no,
07:59maigit itong buwan
08:01sa pagkuhumbulin itong kaso ito.
08:04Ngunit yan po,
08:05ay trabaho talaga ng taong,
08:07ng grupo,
08:08ng anti-organization,
08:10upang mapanagot yung dapat managot
08:12sa flag control at sa lahat po ng krimed,
08:15sa infrastructure,
08:17at syempre po,
08:18sa pag-aabuso ng ating budget.
08:19Kaya lang,
08:20iba't ibang kaso ang fina-file natin,
08:22sapagkat maraming po talaga nangyari
08:24na kaganapan.
08:26At,
08:27tuloy-tuloy po ito,
08:28hindi pa tuloy po tapos dito.
08:29Simula pa lang po ito.
