00:01It's time to share the story.
00:03It's time to talk about what we do, as hard as it is,
00:07and if people want to judge, and...
00:09Okay, well, at least we can defend ourselves now in the light,
00:14not in the shadows, right?
00:24Most of us, we love animals.
00:29There's a part of us that doesn't want this to be true.
00:36We have had this relationship with macaques for millennia.
00:41There is no doubt in my mind that these animals are sentient.
00:47People need to know when monkeys are used in research,
00:52this is what it looks like.
00:54And are you comfortable with that or not?
00:59The scale of these international breeding farms
01:03is almost inconceivable.
01:05Built to hold 80,000 macaques.
01:10Their monkey farms are basically a wet market.
01:13A truck transporting 100 monkeys to a CDC research lab
01:18crashing on the interstate highway.
01:20This industry is more likely to start the next pandemic
01:23than it is to prevent it.
01:29Every single drug you can think of,
01:31every vaccine, every antibiotic, every diagnostic,
01:34all of that was developed with animals.
01:3990-plus percent of drugs that enter into those clinical trials,
01:44they fail.
01:46We're not doing science anymore.
01:49We're practicing an ideology.
01:51That was my job every single day, to stare at it.
01:56You can see the fear in its eyes.
01:58It's extremely soul-destroying.
02:05Euthanasia is a big part of what we have to do
02:07that makes what we do really hard.
02:09It just takes a toll.
02:11A lot of people try to say, euthanize.
02:12We want to hide behind the big words,
02:14but you're killing the animal.
02:15I remember every single animal that I've bonded with.
02:19The grief left a hole in my heart.
02:26I didn't know I was going to get upset.
02:29You are the reason that six-year-old children with leukemia
02:33get to be seven.
02:34You are.
02:43They tell you from day one
02:45that you're here to make a difference to the world.
02:48You're heroes.
02:49They have to be feeding these slogans and phrases to people,
02:53make them feel like what they're doing is right.
02:58There comes a point at which you can no longer deny
03:02the consequences of what you're doing.
03:06It's an ethical dilemma.
03:08We don't like it.
03:08None of us like it.
03:10I feel like there's something wrong with the human race
03:13that we can do things like that.
03:24Is it ethical to do this research with animals?
03:29Let me ask you this.
03:30Is it ethical to not do it?
03:41It's ethical to make it for us.
03:41Let me ask you this.
