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Europe Today : un drone frôle l'avion de Zelensky, Riga débat de la menace russe

Un drone manque de peu l'avion de Zelensky en route pour des funérailles royales en Norvège, après un appel où Poutine minimise avec Trump la menace russe. Europe Today couvre la conférence de sécurité de Riga et interroge un ex-chercheur d'Anthropic qui alerte: l'IA "joue avec nos vies".

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00:04Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:30of Norway was almost hit by a drone when taking off from Moldova on Tuesday.
00:35That's according to the Norwegian Prime Minister.
00:38This comes after two people were killed after Russian drones struck a border crossing between
00:43Ukraine and Moldova.
00:45Meanwhile, in a one-hour phone conversation with Donald Trump, Russian President Vladimir
00:50Putin dismissed speculation about a Russian threat to European nations.
00:55The Baltic countries are on the front line of growing Russian threats.
00:59And concerns are mounting over a deteriorating security situation in the region that comes
01:05after the CIA chief traveled to Moscow last month, reportedly warning Russia against testing
01:11NATO's resolve.
01:12At the International Security Conference in Riga, participants are increasingly worried.
01:17We'll hear from the Foreign Minister of Finland.
01:19And a researcher who spent three years building the systems behind some of the world's most
01:26powerful AI models has quit the industry entirely, warning that the companies racing to build ever
01:33more capable artificial intelligence are gambling with our lives.
01:3827-year-old Jacob Coxon resigned from Anthropic yesterday.
01:42He claims that many of the people building the technology privately fear it could prove fatal for humanity.
01:51Welcome to the program.
01:52I'm Stefan Grobe.
01:54Our top story on Europe Today takes us to Latvia.
01:57Our chief Europe editor Maria Tadeo is in Riga following a security conference.
02:03The Baltic countries are on the front line of growing Russian threats.
02:06and concerns are mounting over a deteriorating security situation in the region that comes
02:12after the CIA chief traveled to Moscow last month, reportedly warning Russia against testing
02:18NATO's resolve.
02:19Let's go live now to Riga, where Maria Tadeo is standing by.
02:24Maria, you have been talking to officials there.
02:27What are you hearing?
02:30Yes, Stefan, good morning, because the security conference is underway and the security picture
02:36and the Baltics is very much in focus, as you say, in the context of that trip, a very rare
02:41unannounced trip from the CIA boss to Moscow, where he met with Russian intelligence.
02:47Reportedly, one of the messages that he conveyed was a warning from the United States to Russia
02:53against escalating tensions with U.S. allies in the region, namely Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia.
03:01Of course, here, when you speak to Baltic officials, they tell you, again, and this is something that they have
03:06stressed,
03:07yes, Russia is a security threat.
03:10They also point to increased hybrid activity, but they still say the picture has not fundamentally changed.
03:17Of course, they would have to say that because they don't want to create a sense of panic here.
03:22But just to give you an idea of the preparedness and the reinforcements of some of those security points in
03:28this region,
03:28just yesterday, the Latvian prime minister announced that his country will need an additional 7 billion euros
03:34to reinforce its eastern border.
03:36Of course, inevitably, that money will have to come from the European Union.
03:40When you look at the European Union, there was also a letter sent by a number of commissioners,
03:45including the Baltic commissioners, saying that they believe there is, quote,
03:48a deteriorating security picture when it comes to this part of Europe and that more action is needed.
03:55The message, however, is one of restraint and putting the focus on NATO deterrence and security.
04:01What, to me, Stefan, has been striking, I spent the whole day yesterday here in Riga.
04:06It's also the conversations that you have with everyday life, people who would tell you this is now normal life
04:13for them,
04:13that they are aware, hyper-aware, of course, of Russia, but they also say at this point all you can
04:19do is be prepared.
04:20I did have conversations with some, again, every day Latvians who told me at this point it's about being prepared,
04:26but also if you can buy real estate outside of the country, some may do that,
04:30but there is a sense of resolve and also agency when it comes to the Baltics.
04:34One of the focus points in this conference will be about strengthening, of course, the defence and the army,
04:41the capacity to ramp up production to protect that border.
04:44The stress, as I say, at this point continues to be one, be it preparedness,
04:49but inevitably this conversation over the past two weeks has certainly fed into the political debate here.
04:55Maria, you also caught up with Finland's Foreign Minister, Elina Waltonen.
05:00Her country, too, shares a border with Russia, actually the longest NATO border with Russia.
05:06What did she tell you?
05:09Yes, and we caught up with Elina Waltonen, who was participating at a business conference
05:13very much dedicated to the security sector, and she told me, plain and simple,
05:17at this stage the security picture for Europe will remain unstable,
05:21it will remain volatile for as long as the war in Ukraine continues,
05:24and that is the assessment that they make.
05:26As long as the war continues, this will be the everyday reality for certainly the frontline countries.
05:33She also told me and reinstated that her country is in favour of using the Russian frozen assets.
05:38As you know, Shefan, this debate was shelved last year over Christmas.
05:43Instead, the Europeans decided that they would pay out of pocket with a loan,
05:46but it has been revived because the cost of the war keeps mounting.
05:51And at this stage, let's be clear about this,
05:53it is the Europeans who are for the most part paying for the war effort alongside the Ukrainians
05:58who are the ones doing the fighting, but they realise the bill is coming
06:02and it will be significant going into 2027.
06:05The other point that I would stress is, she is a fluent German speaker,
06:09she keeps an eye on German affairs,
06:11and I asked her about the victory of the AfD,
06:13and this is relevant because the AfD has said they would want to reinstort ties with Russia diplomatically.
06:20She did tell me, however, this was not a case of Russian misinformation.
06:24This was not a case of perhaps Russia meddling in an election.
06:27It was an election that really tapped into some of the real issues that are happening in Europe
06:32and Europe has to deal with.
06:33Let's take a look.
06:34Certainly, I would not attribute the overall success of AfD to only disinformation.
06:41That would be totally unwise and also very much untrue.
06:46But how Russian disinformation campaigning actually functions is precisely to take those points of dissatisfaction in the society
06:55and amplify those and drive people against each other,
07:00but essentially and especially drive people against their own governments.
07:04I'm sure that Moscow is happy,
07:07but at the same time, there are true concerns of people behind that result,
07:12and I think it's extremely important we respect a democratic result, which this was.
07:18And first and foremost, I would say that, or at least based on what I hear around,
07:24is the concerns of migration, which are behind the election result.
07:30All right.
07:31Maria Tadeo there reporting from Riga.
07:34Thank you very much.
07:36A plane carrying Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky from Moldova to Oslo was nearly hit by a drone.
07:43Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Garstor said yesterday he did not provide further details about the incident.
07:50That's why we're now turning to our correspondent, Sasha Vakulina.
07:53Good morning, Sasha.
07:55So can you provide us with any more details?
07:58Stefan, recently, Ukraine's president started using more Moldovan airspace,
08:04Kishinev airport rather than Poland,
08:05as he used to do for years since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion.
08:09And that was the case on Tuesday.
08:11Around the same time that President Zelensky was about to take off to go to Norway,
08:16this is also around the same time when a drone incursion was detected,
08:21first in Moldova and then in Romania.
08:23And the timeline says everything about the timing of when that happened.
08:28So the drone was detected in Moldova 4.20 in the afternoon.
08:33You can see it there.
08:34Then it crossed from Moldova to Romania, now, to NATO airspace.
08:38This is when the fighter jets were took off to monitor.
08:42They spent over 20 minutes monitoring the situation and following the drone
08:46until a Romanian military lost the drone on its radars.
08:51And then it reappeared shortly after back in Moldova.
08:55And around the same time, this is when President Zelensky was ready to take off.
08:59And reportedly, according to monitoring channels,
09:01he did take off around 5.57.
09:05So with that drone incursion first into Moldova, non-NATO airspace,
09:10and then going into Romania and then returning to Moldova around the same time,
09:15well, that's one drone that was reported,
09:17and that's reportedly the same drone that was threatening Zelensky's plane, Stefan.
09:22Quite scary stuff there, Sascha Vakulina.
09:27As always, great reporting.
09:28Thank you very much.
09:30The European Commission has unveiled a legislative proposal
09:33allowing EU public authorities to favor European companies
09:37in public procurement for key public services,
09:41such as energy, water, railways, ports, airports, and postal services.
09:46A move that clearly targets Chinese companies in a market valued at 2 billion euros annually.
09:53This comes as European policymakers seek to shield the bloc's market from China
09:58amid heated trade negotiations,
10:00as the EU grapples with a trade deficit with Beijing of roughly 1 billion euros a day.
10:08For more on this, let's head over to Paris,
10:11where I'm joined by Alicia Garcia-Herrero,
10:13a Spanish economist with the think tank Bruegel,
10:16and an expert on Asian economies.
10:19Good morning.
10:20Good morning.
10:21So, is this a long overdue act of European economic self-defense
10:26or simply protectionism with a European flag on it?
10:32Well, self-defense can be protectionist.
10:35So, you know, in a way it's everything.
10:36But I have to say that no matter how, you know,
10:41China may be reading the Industrial Selector Act,
10:44which is this legislation you referred to,
10:47it's actually not only for European companies.
10:51In fact, you only need to sign the international procurement agreement at the WTO
10:58to be part of the game.
10:59I.e., Korean companies can compete with European companies.
11:03Japanese companies can compete with European companies.
11:05So China could just sign this agreement,
11:08which basically means that you reciprocate in your procurement.
11:13In other words, that European companies can also go to China
11:16under the same conditions for China's procurement.
11:20So in that regard, I actually think this legislation has been heavily criticized
11:25as very protectionist.
11:27But in my view, it's very reciprocal.
11:30And I think that has to be taken into account.
11:33Alicia, here's an uncomfortable question.
11:36Won't excluding cheaper Chinese companies simply make public projects more expensive?
11:43Because the idea of public procurement, as I mentioned,
11:48within this global agreement, WTO agreement,
11:54basically limits the amount of subsidies or other types of support
12:01that the companies can offer when going to procurement.
12:06I think that's fair, if you ask me, because if the Chinese government wants to compete
12:12with our companies through subsidies or other means,
12:15our companies won't have a chance.
12:17So in that regard, I think it's not only about being cheap, but about being fair.
12:21So this is why this international legislation supposedly protects us from this reality.
12:28And the Industrial Select Act, our legislation now,
12:32takes that on board, which we have not done in the past.
12:37All right.
12:37Alicia Garcia-Herrero from the think tank Bruegel.
12:40Thank you for breaking it all down for us.
12:43Now, Europe's housing crisis has reached emergency levels
12:48with ordinary people in ordinary jobs struggling to afford somewhere to live.
12:53That's the warning from the European Commissioner for Housing, Dan Jorgensen.
12:57In response, the EU has unveiled new rules aimed at curbing short-term rentals such as Airbnb
13:03in areas under so-called housing stress.
13:07Our correspondent, Marek Gwynn, caught up with Commissioner Jorgensen
13:10and began by asking whether the new restrictions will offer relief
13:14to Europeans being squeezed by the housing market.
13:18So prices in many cities in Europe are way too high.
13:22So we see normal people with normal jobs not being able to find a place to live,
13:27being crowded out of the cities where they serve as police officers, nurses and teachers and so on.
13:32So this is totally unacceptable and we need to act.
13:35What we propose today is to say where short-term rentals are a problem
13:41because they are in some cities.
13:42They have crowded out normal people from their homes
13:45because there's more money to be made just having a short-term rental.
13:48And where that is the case, we are now giving the legal basis for member states to regulate this.
13:55So we are now giving the member states the ability to actually do something about this important problem.
14:00I'm interested in knowing about the degree of concern you have about this.
14:06Do you fear we're moving towards a Europe where it will become impossible
14:10for a young person under 35, for example, to actually become a homeowner
14:15or even worse, to even afford a rent?
14:18Unfortunately, in many cities and member states, we are already there.
14:22It is, I would say, actually an emergency
14:24because if you don't have a roof over your head,
14:27if you don't have the opportunity to find a place to live,
14:30then, for instance, young people are not able to start a family.
14:32They're not able to get the job that they want.
14:34They're not able to take the education that they want and need.
14:37And by the way, we as a society need that they take.
14:40So really, it's important that we take this extremely serious.
14:44It's also important that we, from the European Union side,
14:47which traditionally maybe hasn't been the case,
14:50acknowledge that this is also a European problem.
14:53So we need to provide solutions from Brussels.
14:55You and I both know that short-term rentals are just part of the problem.
14:59As the commissioner responsible for tackling this crisis,
15:03what more do you hope to be able to do in this mandate
15:07to help Europeans with this pressing issue?
15:11Short-term rentals is a big part of the problem in many cities,
15:15but of course this will not solve all problems.
15:17We also need to do more to build more houses,
15:21to renovate more houses,
15:23to find new purposes for buildings that are already existing
15:26so that they can become houses.
15:28We need to cut red tape so that it's easier to provide more housing.
15:32We need to mobilize more financing.
15:35We need to make it more feasible and easy to build social housing.
15:40All of these things, of course, need to be done.
15:42So this is an important step, but it's not the only step.
15:44If I may, a final question on energy,
15:46because the energy bill is also a major concern, of course.
15:49We know that international conflicts are upending the energy commodities markets.
15:55How worried are you about the winter facing Europe,
15:59especially given the fact that energy storage is actually lagging behind?
16:03I'm quite worried that if we don't see improvements in the Strait of Hormuz,
16:09that we can face a very difficult winter.
16:11So my message to member states are very clear.
16:13The faster you can deploy more renewables,
16:17the faster you can electrify,
16:19so move away from gas broilers to district heating or electric heat pumps, for instance,
16:25the faster you can deploy more energy efficiency measures,
16:28the faster you can do all of these things,
16:30the more easy the winter will be to face.
16:33And by the way, these things will also lead to lower prices.
16:35So really, there's no reason to not do it.
16:42EU Housing Commissioner Dan Jørgensen speaking to Merit Gwynn.
16:46Yesterday, we heard probably the most striking warnings on artificial intelligence to date.
16:52AI is killing us all.
16:55This is particularly noteworthy because these warnings are coming not just from outside critics,
16:59but from AI safety researchers and insiders who argue that increasingly powerful systems
17:06could eventually become impossible to control.
17:10Do I get your attention?
17:12Joining me now to discuss this is Andrea Renda,
17:15Director of Research at the Center for European Policy Studies here in Brussels.
17:20Good morning.
17:21Good morning.
17:21So let me start with a blunt question.
17:23Is this science or science fiction?
17:26Do I have to be worried?
17:27Do we all have to be worried?
17:29I think it's science, but we shouldn't be worried necessarily
17:34if we keep all this under control and we keep it public and open.
17:38The thing is, it's not the first time that we build something that can kill us all, right?
17:42We have the atomic bomb.
17:43We have several powerful technologies.
17:45It all depends on how we use them.
17:47And most importantly, we don't have to confuse this with an announcement
17:53that superintelligence is coming,
17:55because there are many ways we can all be killed with stupid technologies
17:59if we program them in the wrong way.
18:02I guess the fundamental question seems to be this.
18:06Are we building machines that we may eventually be unable to switch off?
18:12It depends on what kind of goals we give to these machines, what kind of powers, right?
18:15We can have a software which is self-contained,
18:18but a software that governs all our critical infrastructure,
18:21the railroads, the telecoms networks and everything,
18:24and has the ability to dodge some of our attempts to stop,
18:28especially if programmed to achieve that goal at all costs.
18:32It might be difficult.
18:33It might be the genie out of the bottle.
18:35But it's a very, very stupid way of programming AI
18:38to give it powers that then cannot be controlled.
18:41So we have to keep this in check.
18:44What would have to happen for you to say,
18:47stop, AI development must not continue beyond this point?
18:52It's a very difficult question.
18:54I think, for now, we don't know enough what is going on inside those labs,
18:58because they are private.
19:00And imagine, you know, research on nuclear power
19:02happening behind private labs that no one can control,
19:05no one can observe,
19:06and people coming out of those labs and telling you,
19:09oh, listen, we're about to kill all humanity,
19:11but you don't know how to control that.
19:12I think we just have to open up and audit much more
19:15what is going on inside those labs
19:17and invest in public research on this.
19:19I guess we just wait and see.
19:20Andrei Render, thank you so much for coming on the program.
19:23That does it for us today.
19:25Thank you for watching.
19:26I'm Stefan Gobert.
19:27Take care and see you tomorrow.
19:28Take care and see you tomorrow.
20:00Take care and see you tomorrow.
20:02Take care and see you tomorrow.
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