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00:01I don't think he looks bad in a leather pants.
00:04You haven't seen me in them.
00:06Alright, Vince McMahon is a billionaire, I guess.
00:08Yes, he went public this year.
00:12That's what they say.
00:13Is he a billionaire?
00:14He was. I don't know what's going on with him.
00:17Well, it's not called...
00:18I'm always fascinated to meet a man who is this successful.
00:21There he is, Vince McMahon in the flesh.
00:22Hi, Vince.
00:24Good to see you.
00:24He's got Oprah money.
00:25He's got Oprah money.
00:26This is a guy with Oprah money.
00:27Now, when you do that and you go on the stock market and your stock rises like that,
00:31can you spend the money or do you have to wait?
00:33Can you sell it?
00:33Well, I know something about the stock market.
00:36Vince McMahon can't sell all his stock.
00:39You have to let it vest.
00:40Hi, Vince.
00:40Hi.
00:40We're discussing your money.
00:42Yes, that's right.
00:42You don't even need to be here.
00:43Show us your wallet.
00:45How much money have you got on you right now, Vince?
00:46I don't know.
00:47Do you carry money with you?
00:49Oh, absolutely, sure.
00:50You do.
00:50Wait a minute.
00:51I really am interested in the vest.
00:52Do you cash out or do you have to hold on and wait and hope it's still there?
00:56Well, when you went public, I guess the question is, because you took the WWF public and your
01:01whole media entertainment empire.
01:03Whatever that is.
01:04Whatever that is.
01:05Whatever that is.
01:05I don't know.
01:06Whatever that is.
01:06I don't even know if you know what it is.
01:07I probably don't.
01:08Right.
01:09But I'm saying when you go public and everything, you don't get to the next day cash out all
01:14your stock.
01:14No, definitely not.
01:15Right.
01:16But they're calling you a billionaire.
01:19Right.
01:19Are you a billionaire?
01:20I don't know.
01:21You are.
01:22It sounds good.
01:23But is it amazing to think that, you know, I remember even when I used to watch you when
01:27wrestling first started, you know, to take off again and had its resurgence because of
01:29you.
01:30Alex, I never thought of you as, I thought you were the announcer.
01:33I didn't even know you were the owner of the WWF.
01:35I just thought you were the announcer guy.
01:36You weren't always the owner, were you?
01:38No, definitely not.
01:39Yeah.
01:39No.
01:40And my dad, actually.
01:41Your dad owned it.
01:42Yeah, my dad owned 50%.
01:43He had some other stockholders that owned it.
01:45You're like the Trump of wrestling, huh?
01:47But your dad was sort of a failure at it.
01:48He wasn't great, right?
01:49No, my dad was fantastic at it.
01:51He was.
01:52Sure.
01:52So, was your dad a millionaire?
01:55Probably not.
01:56And then you took it over and...
01:59How old were you when you got it?
02:03Late 30s, early 40s.
02:05And how long did it take before you really went around that rocket ship?
02:10Not long.
02:11I mean, you know, actually, you know, my dad, see, they had like little territories, you
02:15know, back in the day.
02:17And my dad's territory was the Northeastern territory.
02:19And he was very successful, actually.
02:22And my premise was that what my dad sort of started in a more entertainment genre, you
02:27know, would be successful all over the globe.
02:29So, and no one ever competed with anyone else.
02:31And, you know, you never crossed into the other guy's territory type thing.
02:34So, you had a brainstorm and you knew how to market this thing.
02:37That's why they call you a marketing genius.
02:38Because you knew how to market...
02:39What is it?
02:39When his dad did it, it was on like UHF stations back then.
02:42Yeah.
02:43Right.
02:43You can hardly see the national stations.
02:44Yeah.
02:45Yeah.
02:46I was looking through the notes.
02:47I guess it said that Vince has said that if his dad ever knew that he was going to take
02:52WWF national, he probably wouldn't have given it to him.
02:55Well, you know, that was because my dad had a lot of friends, these other, you know, territory
02:58owners that own these fiefdoms.
02:59You know, my dad had a lot of friends and acquaintances and so forth.
03:01So, in other words, you crushed these people.
03:04And I competed with them.
03:06And you won.
03:06I mean, so what?
03:07Big deal.
03:08You crushed them.
03:08You put them out of business, right?
03:08That's what you do in business.
03:10Sure.
03:10Yeah, why not?
03:12My dad was not too thrilled with that at first, though.
03:15And your dad has since died, right?
03:18Yes.
03:18He's no longer alive.
03:19Your mother, I read him play, but I was shocked your mother you're not in touch with because
03:22you said she molested you.
03:23That's got to be terrible.
03:24I didn't say that.
03:25That was the inference.
03:26Hold it.
03:27Yeah.
03:27What did she do?
03:29I don't know, but whatever it was, it was not good.
03:31Vince, you get all choked up when you talk about it, right?
03:33I'd rather not talk about that subject.
03:35Damn, that's a good one.
03:36Yeah, I know.
03:37You ought to wrestle hard.
03:38Never mind your son.
03:40Your mother is around and you don't talk to her.
03:43Not a lot.
03:44Boy, did she blow it because, man, you're a billionaire.
03:47Did she get any money from the WWF?
03:49I just realized what I said.
03:50Did she blow it?
03:51That's the question.
03:53That's a dog, Howard.
03:54Vince, I apologize.
03:55How dare I?
03:57How dare I?
03:57I mean, that would be traumatic.
03:58That would make me crazy.
03:59That would be traumatic, right.
04:01You do not...
04:01Wait a minute.
04:02She doesn't get any of the money.
04:03No.
04:04Good.
04:04Nice.
04:05Cut her off.
04:06Just sit there and watch it.
04:07Hey, just because she gave birth to you don't mean that she's entitled to that WWF money.
04:11Your baby's a billionaire.
04:12Yeah.
04:13Oh, boy.
04:13Nice move, Mom.
04:15Way to pick it.
04:16Yeah.
04:16Oh, man.
04:18You got brothers and sisters?
04:19Yes.
04:20I have a brother in Texas.
04:21Where are they?
04:21Texas.
04:21Is he in the WWF?
04:23No.
04:23Nothing to do with it.
04:24Nothing.
04:24What does he do?
04:25He's in the steel...
04:26He writes in letters.
04:26No, no, no.
04:27Can I please borrow some money, Vince?
04:29That's what he does all day.
04:31He's in the steel business somehow.
04:33Is he a wealthy?
04:33What is he stealing?
04:35I thought you were the steel business.
04:36Is he a wealthy?
04:37I'm in the steel business.
04:38Is he a wealthy guy?
04:39I think he does all right.
04:40Right.
04:41Are you in touch with him?
04:42Oh, yeah, sure.
04:42Oh, you are.
04:43You're close with him.
04:43But he doesn't show you his bank account right now.
04:45So, when you make this kind of money...
04:49Oh, God.
04:50Because I've asked this of Mel Karmazin, who runs our company.
04:52Absolutely.
04:53I mean, when you've got some...
04:54You can't even count how much you have.
04:56And you're close to a billionaire or a billionaire.
04:59What is it you do with this money?
05:01I mean, do you buy homes?
05:03Are you a charitable guy?
05:05I mean, what do you do?
05:06Really, I think you do...
05:07I mean, I can't speak for anyone else.
05:09He goes out and starts the XFL.
05:11There you go.
05:12That's one thing you do with it.
05:13But other than that, I mean, you get up like everybody else and you go to work.
05:17I mean, I love what I do.
05:19So, I never really work like you, probably.
05:22Every guy I know...
05:23Well, wait a second.
05:24Every guy I know who makes the kind of money you make, they all say the same thing.
05:29I'd keep working anyway.
05:31That's what Mel said.
05:32Mel's a billionaire now.
05:33And he goes, what would I do?
05:35He goes, I want to go to work.
05:36You actually love what you do.
05:37I love what I do.
05:38You know the people who don't go to work when they have this kind of money?
05:41The kids.
05:42Yeah.
05:43But you love what you do, and yet, I've got to think on a day-to-day level, at a
05:48certain
05:48point in your life, it starts...
05:50I'm not saying you lose the eye of the tiger, but you start to kind of feel, hey, there's
05:53more I can do with my life.
05:55I mean, to sit and listen to a wrestler hit you up for money all the time and say, hey,
06:00you don't pay me enough, or there's an accident with that guy Hart and there's a lawsuit.
06:04You've got to say, why am I risking what I have already?
06:06I got it all.
06:07Let me go on safari.
06:08Why do I need this aggravation?
06:10No, I guess that may come.
06:12You know, I mean, the aggravation factor, it may be there one day, but it's not there
06:16yet.
06:16I'm 55, and it's not quite there yet.
06:18So, I mean, I just love what I do in all aspects.
06:21If I work for you and I'm a wrestler, am I allowed to come to you and say, hey, Vince,
06:25I want a raise?
06:25Absolutely.
06:26I am.
06:26Actually, to you, he doesn't go through somebody else?
06:30Actually, the younger guys would go through somebody else, you know, but the guys that
06:34have been around for a while, you know what I mean?
06:36You still talk to them.
06:37Oh, you have to.
06:37Because you dealt with them in the beginning.
06:40Absolutely.
06:42And now, I mean, you're at the top.
06:44There's nothing left.
06:45Now, concerning the XFL, I wanted to get involved with the XFL.
06:48I thought it was a great idea.
06:50Right.
06:50I believe, but I don't know if you've heard about this.
06:52I have said that the XFL could still be huge.
06:55It can be.
06:56It can be.
06:57And I think the way to do the XFL, can I tell you my idea?
06:59Absolutely.
06:59Does he know what the problems are?
07:01What?
07:02What are the problems?
07:03I'll tell you the problems.
07:04I don't even need you to tell me.
07:05I just wanted to know if Vince had already seen this.
07:08All right.
07:08Here's what I dreamt of, and this is why I wanted to contact you from the beginning.
07:12I kept saying on the air.
07:13Did you hear about this?
07:14He said, I want to be an owner of a team.
07:16Yeah, I heard about it, but, you know, I'm not too sure if Howard was really serious.
07:20I was dead serious, and I'll tell you why.
07:23I felt this way, that what you were saying is so true.
07:26Reality television merging with football could be the most.
07:30You know, I think about Survivor and the success of Survivor.
07:33That game is actually a crappy game.
07:35It's not a great game like football.
07:36Right.
07:37Take the football players.
07:40Forget this season.
07:41We go to the networks, and we say, here's what we're going to do.
07:43We're going to build a village.
07:44All the football players live in the village.
07:46All the cheerleaders live in the village.
07:47Everybody is together in this village.
07:49We're going to tape every football game.
07:52We make everyone sign that they can't reveal the outcome.
07:54For like eight weeks.
07:54For eight weeks.
07:55That's it.
07:56If you're a player on a team, you get eliminated when you lose one game.
08:00That's it.
08:01And each team plays each other.
08:02We put video cameras on everyone, the cheerleaders, the football players, the coaches.
08:07We send them out like on Temptation Island on dates.
08:10We send them out.
08:11We let the players date.
08:12If the players are homos, we let them date.
08:13We don't care what they do.
08:15We videotape them sleeping.
08:17We get everything, and then we go into the editing room.
08:19We show highlights of the football game, the game.
08:22Create a drama.
08:23Mixed in with it.
08:24That's what I wanted to do.
08:25I couldn't get in touch with you.
08:27Sounds like a pretty good idea.
08:29You like it.
08:29Yeah.
08:30You like it, don't you?
08:31I do like it.
08:31I know what I'm doing, goddammit.
08:33You just gave away his next billion, you wacko.
08:35I just gave away his next billion.
08:35He's going to run over it.
08:36If you want to do it without me, you go ahead and take it.
08:38I don't care.
08:39But I am telling you, if you and I teamed up with this, it would be the biggest frigging
08:43thing.
08:43We could put it on any network, and we would win, win, win.
08:47Sounds like a good idea.
08:48Win Howard's money.
08:50Vince, you're just saying that.
08:51No, no.
08:51It does.
08:52No, because I think everyone's interested not just in number 44.
08:56Right.
08:56You're interested in the guy.
08:57Yes.
08:57Or the girl who's the cheerleader or whatever.
08:59But it's impossible to pull off during a live game, because you've got too much going
09:02on there.
09:03Way too much.
09:03So what have you seen as, what have you been planning to do about this whole thing?
09:08Actually, tweak it, twist it, listen to ideas, and persevere.
09:13You're going to just persevere.
09:15Well, you know what I mean.
09:16That ain't a good idea.
09:18You know what I love, Vince?
09:19How about equipping the storm?
09:22Here's an idea.
09:23This might be a little crazy.
09:24Give all the players firearms.
09:27Bring OJ in.
09:28Oh, good.
09:29That's right.
09:30Bring OJ back.
09:32And just fire everyone on the spot whenever they screw up.
09:35I like that.
09:36All right.
09:36That was a good idea.
09:37So, Vince, this is great.
09:40You have this WWF franchise.
09:42You're a very wealthy man.
09:43And I suppose the XFL was the new challenge.
09:46Yes.
09:46Something new to build.
09:47All right.
09:48And if you want me involved in the challenge, talk to me, and I'll straighten the whole thing
09:50out for you.
09:51Good.
09:51Okay.
09:52I'm happy to do it, because I have so much free time.
09:55I can understand that.
09:56But here's the thing, too, you've got to consider.
09:58You're getting older now.
10:00Right.
10:00You're considerably wealthy.
10:01Have you sat down with a lawyer and said, who is going to inherit your empire?
10:05What are you going to do?
10:07Oh, sure.
10:08You know who's going to take over the whole thing.
10:09Is Shane, your son, going to take over?
10:11Shane, Stephanie, Marissa.
10:12You're going to make those kids work together for the rest of their lives.
10:15Equal partners.
10:16Equal.
10:17And how do you think that'll work?
10:18Doesn't there have to be one person in charge?
10:20Like, you always had the ultimate say.
10:22Right.
10:22And haven't you seen these families where the kids start fighting and everything goes to hell?
10:26Sure.
10:27Definitely.
10:27I don't think it'll happen to my family, but, you know, everyone's always said that, you
10:32know, but they're both in the business, you know, and they both love the business.
10:36And, you know, I think that they'll work it out.
10:39You think that they're capable?
10:40Because I know a lot of guys who own businesses, they try to pass them off to the kids.
10:44Right.
10:44And secretly, somewhere deep in their heart, they go, geez, these kids don't have what it
10:47takes.
10:47They're going to mess it up.
10:48They do.
10:48They're going to mess it up.
10:49Actually, Shane and Stephanie, you're a lot brighter than I am.
10:51Really?
10:52Yeah.
10:52And you feel that they can handle it.
10:54And in your will, you will leave everything to Shane, Stephanie, and, of course, your wife?
10:58Right.
10:58Is that how it will work?
10:59Sure.
11:00I would love to be in on that.
11:02Yeah, go ahead.
11:03Actually, before you said, I'm going to leave everything to Shane, Stephanie, and Marissa,
11:06Marissa's actually his daughter-in-law.
11:07Does she get an equal share, even though she's not a blood writer?
11:09No way.
11:10I'm stepping in on that.
11:12No way.
11:13No frigging way.
11:14Who is this Marissa, this Johnny-cum lately?
11:16Yeah.
11:18She's beautiful, unfortunately.
11:19She's a little sick today.
11:20She is?
11:21Yes.
11:21She's sick because she's not getting the money.
11:23And that's why she's sick.
11:24No, I don't think so.
11:25Oh, I think so.
11:26Why didn't he have Triple H in there?
11:28Yeah, right.
11:29So all the kids will take part in this together.
11:33Now, what about something when, like, Jesse Ventura, I saw that he was, you know, in a
11:38feud with you.
11:39I sometimes wonder, though, is it a real feud or is it something that is staged?
11:42No, Jesse and I have not liked each other in the past, and we've had our differences.
11:48Right.
11:49Probably still do.
11:50But Jesse's all right.
11:51I appreciate, I get a kick out of the fact that a real common man, so to speak, is the
11:56governor of Minnesota.
11:57I think it's cool.
11:57You're not kidding about that.
11:58Yeah, he's as common as they get.
12:01Good thing he ain't governor of New York.
12:03That would be interesting.
12:04Right.
12:05And you've admitted to the temptations in your life, in your personal life.
12:08What temptations?
12:09Well, he's married 28 years, but he's...
12:11Extra sugar?
12:11What?
12:11No, he's banked a lot of checks.
12:13No.
12:14You've banked your share.
12:15You've banked your fair share.
12:16Is he cheating on...
12:17No, he's not cheating.
12:18What do you mean?
12:18Last six years, you have not had sex with a different woman than your wife.
12:21Is that correct?
12:22That's very true.
12:22That is true.
12:23But he does not lie.
12:24Hold it.
12:24Yeah.
12:25Hold it.
12:25Did he get a pardon for all the other years?
12:28No.
12:28Did he get a pardon?
12:29Now, when you admit to stuff like that in an interview, does your wife give you holy
12:33hell when you get home?
12:34I mean, it's amazing that she stays after you admit that.
12:37Because most guys figure their wives are going to split.
12:39Right.
12:40Or did she get back at you and go out and bang a few guys?
12:43No.
12:44No way.
12:44No.
12:45He wouldn't stand for that.
12:46No.
12:47It's always that double standard stuff, you know?
12:48Did you go the whole God route, honey?
12:50No, I never did the God and Jesus.
12:54I have no time for that.
12:55No.
12:56But what...
12:57So, you know, there's a lot of temptation.
12:58When you're a billionaire, you're a nice-looking guy...
12:59Who are you doing?
13:00Yeah.
13:01Who are you doing?
13:01Who did you get?
13:02No one.
13:03Years ago, who did you get?
13:04Give us the list.
13:05If it had a skirt, you know.
13:06Really?
13:07I mean, was it just the girls who hang around wrestling?
13:09Or did you go outside?
13:11No, it was, you know, fair game.
13:13Really?
13:14Yeah.
13:14Really?
13:15Well, no, I just...
13:16Famous women?
13:18Famous women?
13:18Smell your fingers.
13:19I don't...
13:21No, but I mean, you know, it's just one of those things where you wake up one day and
13:24you recognize, you know, that it's not just all about, you know, your individual sexual
13:29gratification.
13:29It's about relationship and whatever.
13:31And did your wife know this was going on all day?
13:32No.
13:33I hope I get to that point.
13:34No.
13:34No.
13:34I don't think so.
13:35Yeah, but I think, you know, when she married me, you know, I promised her several things.
13:39You know, one, there'd never be a dull moment, which there hasn't been.
13:42Yeah, I'll say.
13:42And then I'd always love her and I always have.
13:44Right.
13:45So, you know, sex and love are two different things.
13:47For a guy...
13:47For a guy, yes.
13:48Yeah, you've got to have sex.
13:49It makes you feel good.
13:50So, how do you train your penis not to wander?
13:53Yeah.
13:54It's my mind, not my penis.
13:55I have to train.
13:56Yeah, I'm working on training my penis.
13:58That's where I've been going wrong.
13:59That's why I lost half my money.
14:01I can't believe my penis.
14:03Train the mind.
14:05Okay.
14:05I knew it.
14:06You're training the wrong thing.
14:07No, so, like, you must have had some broads.
14:11I mean, unbelievable.
14:12Do you go for...
14:13Now, where do you go for?
14:14Yeah, do you find it sexual?
14:15Like, Chyna, I don't get how she is sexual.
14:18I've had her on the show.
14:19Lovely woman.
14:20I feel bad.
14:20She had a tough life being a big moose.
14:22But do you get turned on by that kind of woman?
14:26I don't see you with that.
14:27Really, I don't know.
14:28I'm sort of like the all-American type.
14:31And my wife actually is, like, what I really like.
14:34Yeah.
14:34And I'm not too sure.
14:35I wasn't, like, kind of looking for, you know, parts of my wife and other women type
14:39of thing.
14:39How did you get away, though, with cheating and never getting caught?
14:42I never heard anything about you ever with another woman.
14:45What did you do?
14:45The hotel room thing?
14:46He had to tell on himself.
14:47Yeah, and how do you get...
14:48You got so bored, you told on yourself.
14:50I know.
14:51You're like, hey, honey, what's wrong with you?
14:52You don't know how I'm cheating.
14:53I'm looking for you with other women.
14:54Nobody will catch me.
14:55I'm going to turn myself in.
14:57One day she asked, so I'll make it.
14:59Oh, she did?
15:00She just walked up and said, Vince, are you having sex with another woman?
15:03And you said, yes?
15:04Right.
15:04Come here, I'm going to have to knock you around.
15:06Really?
15:07Wait a minute, wait a minute.
15:08Hold it, hold it, hold it.
15:09You never do that.
15:10I understand you're not supposed to do that.
15:12Right.
15:12But did you tell her how many?
15:14I mean, did you have to hold?
15:15Oh, you gave her the list?
15:16Oh, you know what you're going to do, you know?
15:18You must be strong.
15:20Oh.
15:21No wonder you started bulking up.
15:25You are kidding me.
15:26No, it's just the way it happens.
15:28You got guts.
15:29No, no, we've always been honest with each other.
15:31But wait a minute, wait a minute.
15:32The kids, the kids, the kids.
15:33Did the kids know?
15:34Hell no.
15:35You don't tell your kids.
15:36Your kids will hate you.
15:37But his kids are traveling with him, they're in the business with him.
15:39Yeah, well, now they'll keep their mouth shut, they're going to inherit the whole motherhood.
15:42Are you kidding me?
15:43Do they know?
15:45Well, they know everything about me.
15:46Now they know.
15:47Again, I'm pretty open with everything.
15:49Why didn't your wife shoot you or cut it off like Bob is like?
15:51I don't know.
15:52She's a good woman.
15:53She's a great woman.
15:54She must have gotten pretty angry.
15:57She did, yes.
15:57Do you have to go to marriage therapy after you admit something like that?
15:59No.
16:00You're not going to that.
16:01This man is not going to marriage therapy, okay?
16:04You're not?
16:05Uh-uh, no.
16:06See, I would have thought I would have gotten dragged in if I admitted to that.
16:09It's unbelievable.
16:11Now, the storyline in the WWF is that you are trying to divorce your wife.
16:16Actually, I started to divorce my wife, and then I found a better way because, see, if
16:20you get divorced, then you lose sometimes half of everything you've earned.
16:24But what's that mean to you?
16:25I mean, if you have a billion dollars, so let's say you have a half of it.
16:28It means half a billion.
16:28Yeah, but my character is one that, you know, a billion is not enough.
16:31I mean, it's got to be $2 billion or $50 billion or whatever.
16:34I mean, it's the avarice character.
16:36Now, you've got a whole big special coming up.
16:38Now, is that this Sunday?
16:40No, WrestleMania is April 1.
16:41Oh, April 1.
16:42Right.
16:42And Stone Cold Steve Austin will go against The Rock and WrestleMania.
16:46Yeah.
16:46And these things are huge.
16:47I mean, the pay-per-view is huge.
16:48There's nothing else on pay-per-view that actually makes money.
16:50Howard, those are the biggest things.
16:51They are the biggest.
16:52They are.
16:53The buy rate is like 3%, which is a lot of money.
16:56Yeah, and he figured that out, too.
16:57So when your critics say, oh, it's too violent and all this stuff, you're like, F you, man.
17:01Obviously, this is what people want, right?
17:03No question.
17:03I mean, the critics generally never watch us.
17:05Well, as Bob Costas says, are you right to give the people what they want?
17:10And you are.
17:11Why not?
17:12Were you really angry with Bob Costas in that interview?
17:16Disappointed, I think, more than angry.
17:17I mean, Costas at one time was a real fun-loving type of a guy.
17:21I mean, after all, sports are supposed to be fun.
17:24Right.
17:24Somewhere along the line.
17:25It's entertainment.
17:25Yeah, guys like Costas and other elitists just kind of like, well, we have this high moral ground.
17:31Is Costas a pansy?
17:32Is that what you're trying to say?
17:33Costas a pansy?
17:34Yeah.
17:35No question.
17:35He's a pansy.
17:37I started asking him what color panties he was wearing, but, you know, I was afraid he'd tell me.
17:42Yeah, right.
17:42You don't want to know that.
17:43No.
17:44Oh, Jesus Christ.
17:45I mean, where is people's sense of humor?
17:47I know.
17:48They take themselves so damn seriously.
17:49Does anybody take it really seriously?
17:51Yeah, yeah.
17:51They do.
17:52I mean, and after all, you know, they're supposed to be writing about sports.
17:55Well, sports are not serious.
17:56Right.
17:57Well, you know what they're probably jealous of is wrestling was always the thing you snickered about.
18:01Yeah.
18:02And now there are columns about it in the paper and the like.
18:05It's gotten some respectability.
18:07Yeah.
18:07Yeah.
18:07Yeah, that's true.
18:09So, okay, let me just finish the plug here.
18:12Live Sunday, April 1st at 8 p.m. on Pay-Per-View.
18:14For more information, go to Wrestlemania.com.
18:17Want to take a few phone calls?
18:19Sure.
18:19All right.
18:20People are insane.
18:21You've got to understand that.
18:23All right.
18:23So, let's see.
18:25Leslie, go ahead.
18:25You're on the air with Vince McMahon.
18:26We have a lot of people who just want to meet you.
18:29Oh, and we even have our, you know, our whole intern thing.
18:31Yeah, we've got to let an intern meet you.
18:32Sure.
18:32He had bagels thrown at him so he could meet you.
18:35Isn't it shocking how many men want to meet you?
18:37A lot of men.
18:38You know what I mean?
18:39I can't believe Elephant Boy isn't here today.
18:41Yeah, he's got a major hard-on for Vince.
18:45Leslie, you're on the air.
18:46Hello, everybody.
18:47Hi, Leslie.
18:48Hi, Howard.
18:49I love you.
18:50Vince, I am a big fan.
18:52I think you're a very handsome man.
18:54And the funny thing is, is I'm setting up an interview to interview with a girl.
18:59I don't know if I can say her name or not.
19:01What?
19:01At your office in Stanford, Connecticut.
19:04You want to set up an interview with Vince so you can interview for a job?
19:07She wants to buy breakfast.
19:09No, no.
19:09Actually, I'm going on an interview.
19:11You want to work for Vince.
19:13Well, I can almost guarantee you you're not going to be able to.
19:16Not after this incoherent phone call.
19:19Well, I can hardly hear you because I'm on my cell phone.
19:21Will you be nude and will you service Vince?
19:24Oh, sure.
19:25That's it.
19:26Why not?
19:27But that's where it's happening.
19:28I mean, like this.
19:29Are you a good-looking broad?
19:30Of course I am.
19:31I've got to tell you something.
19:32What do you want to be?
19:33See, Vince, this is your problem.
19:35Female wrestler?
19:35Could you explain to your wife it's hard for you to turn down this kind of activity?
19:38It really isn't anymore.
19:39And it's not?
19:40No, no.
19:40Were you a sex addict, would you say?
19:42Hmm.
19:43I don't know.
19:44All guys are sex addicts.
19:45Yeah, I think so.
19:45I think if a guy has the opportunities that you're going to have, it's hard to turn them down.
19:49Sure it is.
19:50And you probably got married young.
19:51Oh, very young, yeah.
19:52How old were you when you got married?
19:53I was 20.
19:54My wife was 17.
19:57See what I mean?
19:58That's too young, isn't it?
19:59You're a child.
19:59It actually worked for me.
20:00I mean, it was the best move ever made.
20:03It was to marry me with Linda.
20:04I feel that way, too.
20:06I think he's been very much.
20:08You're saying that like a mantra.
20:10No, it's true, though.
20:13It's like the Manchurian candidate.
20:16Look at the queen.
20:17Let's go to Allie.
20:18Let me say that with conviction next time.
20:20Allie, you're on the air.
20:21Oh, my God.
20:21Hi, Vince.
20:22Hi, Howard.
20:23Hi, Robin.
20:23Hi.
20:24What's up, guys?
20:24Come on, talk.
20:25Vince, I need to know.
20:26Do I need implants to be a wrestler?
20:28I mean, I'm the next leader.
20:30I'm telling you.
20:30I'm gorgeous.
20:31I'll take bumps with the best of them.
20:32But I need to know.
20:33I'm not, you know, I'm not really big justice.
20:35Are implants mandatory?
20:37No, implants are not mandatory.
20:38Well, how big are your boobs?
20:40I'm barely an A-cover.
20:41Yeah, well, that's the point.
20:42I mean, a lot of the women...
20:44But big boobs are mandatory.
20:44Big boobs for you are mandatory.
20:46Vince, let's be honest.
20:47I mean, a part of it is sex appeal, isn't it?
20:49Sure it is.
20:50You want sexy girls.
20:51I still have sex appeal, Howard.
20:51I still have sex appeal.
20:53Well, whether you have sex appeal or not, you need big boobs.
20:55Vince will tell you if you have sex appeal.
20:56I mean, look at Chyna.
20:57She looks like a man, but she's got a test of a woman.
20:59Well, see, but that's what I'm saying, Mike.
21:00I'm definitely more feminine than Chyna.
21:02The Rock has bigger boobs than you.
21:04Right, right, right.
21:06He definitely does.
21:07All right, honey.
21:08Keep dreaming.
21:08A lot of people coming to you thinking they can be wrestlers, right?
21:11Like, a lot of people think they can be my comedy writer or something.
21:13Sure.
21:14There's a lot of people like that.
21:16Let's go to Wayne.
21:18Wayne, you're on the air.
21:19Howard, thanks for taking my call.
21:20Go ahead.
21:21Vince, just a couple quick questions here.
21:22I'm a huge fan of the WWF.
21:24I love your product.
21:25I saw the Bob Costas show.
21:26I thought it was unfair.
21:28But I have a question for you because I can never really tell.
21:30Which Vince I'm getting sometimes when I'm watching TV and stuff.
21:33I can't tell either, so.
21:34Go ahead.
21:35What I'm curious about is, what are your plans for Jerry the King Lawler and Stacey Carter?
21:40I actually don't have any plans for them right now.
21:42I mean, not in the near future.
21:44We've had a situation where Stacey is one of our characters and she was let go.
21:49She's married to Jerry the King Lawler.
21:52And the King admirably suggested that he should walk with her.
21:57What is it with your wrestling, Frederick?
21:59As soon as you want to get rid of someone, they turn around, they sue you.
22:02I mean, what was the girl we had on here who said she wanted to sue me?
22:06Whatever her name is.
22:07Sable.
22:08Right.
22:09What did you do wrong?
22:10Nothing.
22:11You want to change characters.
22:12Right.
22:13And then everyone turns around and sues you.
22:15Right.
22:15As if you owe them a job for life.
22:17This I don't understand.
22:18Nor do I.
22:19So what do you do?
22:20I mean, you've got probably a team of lawyers working endlessly, right?
22:22Well, no, again, you know, eventually you have to stand your ground naturally.
22:26Right.
22:26And you just do that and just, you know, wait it out and do what you have to do.
22:30But see, that's the part that I would.
22:31But these wrestlers are always running back and forth from one organization to another.
22:36And it's very weird.
22:39You know, they want to stand wrestling, but now they're going to go work for this guy.
22:42And then they're going to come back to you later on after they've sued you.
22:45Could you rehire them?
22:47Michael, you're on the air.
22:48Go ahead.
22:49Hey, Howard.
22:49Thanks for taking my call.
22:50Sure.
22:50Listen, speaking about lawsuits, from what I heard from this Cossus interview, I know
22:54Cossus came close, but he didn't really ask Mr. McMahon about this case down here in
22:58Florida where the little boy was tried for killing the little girl and the attorney raised
23:02the wrestling defense.
23:03You know, Mr. McMahon and his organization had sued the defense lawyer.
23:07Good.
23:08For defamation and so on and so forth.
23:10Well, it's true.
23:10I mean, where are the parents?
23:11You've said this a million times.
23:12Where are the parents?
23:13I mean, you tell me a kid watches wrestling on TV.
23:15I don't.
23:16I knew a kid.
23:17I remember when I was a little kid, Superman was on TV and someone tried to sue because
23:21their kid flew out the window because he saw Superman on TV.
23:24Well, he didn't fly out the window.
23:25Well, he did.
23:25He actually couldn't fly.
23:27Yeah.
23:27Kid thought he was from Krypton.
23:28I remember it was a real sad case and everything.
23:30But the fact of the matter is there are people who are just crazy.
23:36And don't have any judgment at all.
23:38So what are we going to do?
23:38End all entertainment in the hopes that the one in a billion person who can't handle it
23:43on TV is going to...
23:44What's going on with all that?
23:46They just threw out a case against natural-born killers because some people were claiming
23:50they got the inspiration for their crime spree from that movie.
23:54That's still a far cry from the WWF suing the defense lawyer.
23:58No, they should.
23:59Are you saying that?
24:00Not these guys from using these defenses.
24:01We may be.
24:02The defense lawyer came up with this hoax type situation claiming that the kid was emulating
24:06and only playing, emulating wrestling maneuvers.
24:09And that's not the case.
24:10I mean, they didn't have that defense for several weeks after the incident.
24:14And the kid's mother, who works for the Highway Patrol in law enforcement, was allegedly asleep
24:20upstairs and listening to all of this going on.
24:23At one time, even opened the door and allegedly said, what the hell is going on?
24:27And was told that Tiffany was the young six-year-old who died.
24:31You know, Tiffany's raising out.
24:32She says, and the woman said, well, if in fact she doesn't stop it, I'm going to come down
24:36and beat her ass.
24:37Now, that's the mother saying that.
24:39Right.
24:39You know, and it's all your fault.
24:41It's all my fault somehow.
24:42And this kid's 170 pounds.
24:44And, you know, what he did was obviously not emulating wrestling maneuvers.
24:48Yeah.
24:48It was just, it was a hoax.
24:50The whole defense was a hoax.
24:51Yeah, they were looking.
24:52And they wanted to call, you know, WWF members, you know, people who are in the WWF.
24:57Right.
24:57As witnesses, like they'd have something to say about it.
25:00Right.
25:00Okay, Ralph, go ahead.
25:01You're on the air.
25:02Hey, Howard, how are you doing?
25:03Hey, man, what's up?
25:03You're the funniest, man.
25:05Listen, Vince, why don't you tell Howard how you screwed Bret Hart two years ago?
25:10Sure.
25:11A couple years ago.
25:11Okay, I'll be happy to.
25:13Well, why did Vince screw her?
25:14Screw him.
25:15Him.
25:15Screw him.
25:16He calls him the belt at WrestleMania.
25:20He's embarrassing him right in front of his own crowd.
25:22Go ahead.
25:22What do you want to say to this guy, Vince?
25:23Well, there's a situation whereby Bret Hart, who was one of our great performers, we had a
25:29difference of opinion, and Bret was going to go work for Ted Turner's WCW.
25:34Right.
25:35And he wasn't going to do what we call in our business the honors, going out.
25:39Right.
25:39Which means, what, say goodbye?
25:41Say goodbye the right way and lose the title and that sort of stuff.
25:45Right.
25:45So, in any event, you know, we had a difference of opinion there, and Bret didn't want to go
25:51out the way that he should, which is the time-honored tradition, and also good business,
25:55by the way.
25:56And so, in essence, I just let him believe that he was going to have it his way and screwed
26:00him in the ring.
26:01Hmm.
26:02Yeah.
26:02Why are you fighting your son in the ring?
26:04What's up with that?
26:04What's the storyline there?
26:05The storyline there is, you know, again, it's like Shane's taking up for my wife, who, by
26:10the way, was comatose, and, you know, I mean, she's in a sanitarium, she had a nervous breakdown
26:18because I was having an affair with a scout, Trish.
26:21Right.
26:21You know, so it's an interesting soap opera.
26:23The big pay-per-view event is April 1st at 8 p.m., and if you go to Wrestlemania.com,
26:28you can learn more.
26:29Stone Cold Steve Austin versus The Rock in Wrestlemania.
26:31And what I think is even more interesting is that Vince will fight his own son.
26:35He's done it before.
26:36I like that, though.
26:38I just find that fascinating.
26:39Yes, Vinny?
26:40How much does that cost, the pay-per-view?
26:43$39.95, I guess.
26:44What, are you looking for a sleepy here?
26:46If a million people order, that's $40 million.
26:49What are you going to do with the $40 million, then?
26:51He doesn't get the whole $40 million.
26:53You know, that's for sure.
26:54I get $35 million.
26:55Isn't pay-per-view a screwy deal?
26:56Because you only get $0.50 on every dollar.
26:58A little less than, yeah.
26:59Doesn't it make you want to almost buy pay-per-view franchises?
27:01You would get the full dollar, then, wouldn't you?
27:02Yeah, sure.
27:03Have you looked into that?
27:04I've thought about it.
27:05You have?
27:06It would make sense to me, because since you're carrying pay-per-view, there's nothing else on pay-per-view.
27:10You can't say to those guys, use some strong-arm tactics, and say,
27:13listen, I'll give you $0.20 on every dollar.
27:16You can't do that?
27:17We might in the future.
27:18I don't know.
27:19I tried.
27:20I did several pay-per-view specials.
27:22They were all number one grossing pay-per-view specials up there with wrestling.
27:26And I finally said, if you're not going to lower your take, I'm not doing them anymore.
27:30And I've stuck to my guns.
27:31I'm not doing them anymore.
27:32Yeah, I was going to say, now you don't do them.
27:33No, I take too much risk in it.
27:35Okay, we have people here to meet, Vince.
27:36Please honor me by meeting these people.
27:39Love to.
27:40Some of these guys are bordering on a homosexual love for you.
27:43So I think you ought to just...
27:45That is a weird audience, don't you think?
27:46These guys are really in love, and they're reading about these guys constantly.
27:50Where do you live now?
27:50You live in Connecticut or something?
27:51Yes, I live in Connecticut.
27:52Yeah, and you've got a fancy place?
27:53There's a mansion?
27:54Yeah, I guess.
27:55It's all right.
27:55Is it a compound?
27:56You know, you've got a little thing here.
27:57You've got a compound?
27:57No, it's not really a compound.
27:59How about inviting me and Robin over there and let me do some cool stuff?
28:01You've got an indoor pool?
28:02No.
28:03What's the kind of cool stuff you've got for all your money?
28:05I mean, you've got a...
28:06I have a gym, no.
28:07I have a gym in the house, though.
28:08A nice state-of-the-art?
28:09It's not bad.
28:10It's not really...
28:10Free weights, Nautilus?
28:11What do you got?
28:12Yeah, free weights.
28:12Free weights.
28:13You've got a jet?
28:14No, no.
28:14Yeah, I do have a jet.
28:15You've got a jet.
28:15What do you got, a Gulfstream?
28:17No, it's a Challenger.
28:18Challenger.
28:18You've got your own Challenger.
28:20Yeah, it's really cool.
28:20You know, actually, it's one of those things where you lease.
28:24Right.
28:25You pay like a million bucks a year, and then you get a certain amount of hours.
28:27Right.
28:28Nice.
28:28I paint it black.
28:29It's really cool, you know, and it's like it's one of those things we call in our business
28:32where you outwork yourself.
28:33You think you're smart, but you're really not.
28:35And so everyone told me, don't paint it black.
28:37I said, oh, it's got to be black, and it's got to have this huge white WWF logo on the
28:41tail.
28:42Right.
28:42And so forth.
28:43So I did that, and just the other day, we're pulling up someplace, and I pull in, and it's like,
28:48okay, when can we get off the plane?
28:49You know, I need to get off the plane.
28:51I've got to go to work.
28:52Right, right.
28:52And the problem is that since it's black, the paint expands, and you can't always open the door when you
28:58want to.
28:58Oh, no.
28:59Oh, Jesus.
29:00You wrecked the plane.
29:01It's useless.
29:03Wow.
29:04I could always escape going out the baggage.
29:06So you got any other, like, homes?
29:07You just got the one place in Connecticut?
29:09And a place in Florida.
29:10Nice.
29:11Yep.
29:11Was that a compound also?
29:12No, no.
29:12It's a condo, and it's being built now.
29:14Oh, man.
29:15Think of all the broads you could be bringing there.
29:17You screwed up big time.
29:19Who you got here for us, Casey?
29:20Let these people...
29:21You get the list right in front of you.
29:22All right.
29:22You got a bunch of them.
29:23Jesse and Jim in purple shirt.
29:26This is Jim and Jesse.
29:28Vince, just...
29:29I don't know.
29:30I'm reading his notes.
29:31It's like reading hieroglyphics.
29:32Oh, look at these guys.
29:33Jesus Christ, Vince.
29:34These are the guys I'm talking about.
29:36These are the guys in the $39.95.
29:39Go ahead.
29:39How did we meet you guys, and how did you end up down here?
29:42What's going on?
29:43I just came down here.
29:44Because you heard Vince was here.
29:45Yes.
29:45Are you huge wrestling fans?
29:46Yes.
29:47How old are you guys?
29:4821.
29:4819.
29:49You got jobs yet, or are you still in college?
29:51You got jobs.
29:52You got jobs.
29:53Neither of you guys have ever been late, I bet.
29:54Oh, Tom.
29:55I live with my girl.
29:56You got to be kidding me.
29:57No.
29:57And what is your question for Vince?
29:59I mean, you've been waiting out there all day.
30:01What do you got to say?
30:01What do you got to say to Vince?
30:02So, you're going to take over WCW?
30:05That's the question?
30:06Yeah.
30:07That's the question.
30:08That's a good question, WCW.
30:09What are you going to do?
30:10It's falling apart.
30:11In all likelihood, yes.
30:12Really?
30:13Wow.
30:14That's big.
30:14Could you get Hogan before Monday, if that happens?
30:18What are you saying?
30:19Hulk Hogan would then become your property again?
30:21Well, no.
30:22It depends if he's under contract or not.
30:24I see.
30:24Are you still interested in him, or is he a husband?
30:28He's yesterday's news, right?
30:29Yeah, pretty much.
30:30I mean, there's, you know, he's still a tiger.
30:33I don't know how many teeth he has left, but he's still a tiger.
30:35You know, that was one of the things I was going to ask you.
30:38These guys never seem to want to retire.
30:40Right.
30:40Some of them don't.
30:41I mean, Randy Savage.
30:43Right.
30:44Isn't he 100?
30:46Hulk Hogan stayed around wrestling too long.
30:48I mean, you tried to get rid of him, and, you know, you did.
30:51I mean, is it enough with him?
30:53Is that what you're saying?
30:54Well, in terms of, you know, day-to-day competitiveness and stuff like that, obviously he can't hang, you know,
30:59with the young guys now.
31:00Right.
31:00No one can at that age.
31:01Right.
31:02You know, but...
31:02What is his age?
31:04I think he's about...
31:0560?
31:05No, no, no.
31:08I don't know.
31:09I guess 47.
31:11Right.
31:11That's what you get.
31:11You're not able to hang.
31:13See, this is where...
31:14You see, you're unfortunate in the position that you've got to be the guy to tell these guys,
31:17look, you're too old.
31:17You've been around too long.
31:19Well, not that they still don't have personality, they still don't have some value on an ongoing basis.
31:23Yeah, maybe they can become managers of younger guys or something like that.
31:25That could easily happen.
31:26Spokesperson, you know, all that kind of stuff.
31:28And, you know, and on occasion, you know, do the old Babe Ruth stuff.
31:32Right, right.
31:32Do you not like this guy personally?
31:34He's all right.
31:35We had some differences.
31:36We were really close at one time.
31:38Right.
31:38And we had some differences during the steroid trial stuff.
31:41Right.
31:42He accused you of giving him steroids or something?
31:44No, he really didn't accuse me.
31:45It was a thing whereby the government kind of put the finger on him and, you know...
31:48He had to say it as well?
31:49No, I don't think anybody has to say anything, you know, especially when it comes to the government.
31:52I'm not real big on that.
31:54Right.
31:54You know, but, you know, and he disappointed me.
31:55You know, I mean, he's not the stand-up guy that I would be for him in role reversal.
32:00You would have stood up for him.
32:01You would have gone down for him.
32:04I don't care about how you say that.
32:05He doesn't go down for anybody.
32:06But, you know, I would have done the right thing.
32:08I think, you know, and again, he had a lot of pressure on his family and that sort of stuff
32:12and thought he may go to jail and for some reason...
32:15So he turned on you?
32:15Well, that's what I...
32:16He didn't exactly turn on me.
32:17He really walked that fine line where...
32:19Did he lie about you?
32:20I don't...
32:21He didn't tell the entire truth, but he wasn't really...
32:25Even though he was a government witness, he didn't help them out all that much either.
32:28He really walked the line.
32:29But it just burned you and said, hey, you know, I'm kind of friendly.
32:31It disappointed me.
32:32Nothing ultimately happened to you, though.
32:34It disappeared.
32:34Yeah, well, luckily, nothing happened to him, but something could have.
32:37Yeah.
32:37Right.
32:38So, guys, anything else?
32:40Yeah.
32:40Are you going to...
32:41What?
32:41Are you going to help Paul Hammond bring back ECW?
32:44Oh, my God.
32:45What?
32:45Good question.
32:46Dude, you are so inside.
32:47Boy, I'll say.
32:48I mean, really.
32:49I do have a question related to his question.
32:51Would you keep the WCW and the WWF separate and then have, like, major titles, you know,
32:57over the whole thing?
32:58If it happens, that would be the concept, yes.
33:01If it happens.
33:01Hey, Howard, this guy's really interesting.
33:03He's got something he wants to show you.
33:04Go ahead.
33:05Show me what you got.
33:05What do you got?
33:06Some major titles.
33:07Oh, I have two assholes.
33:09Let me see what you got.
33:10Stop it.
33:10He's got two butts.
33:12Oh.
33:13Well, how...
33:14Vince, isn't there something you can do with a guy like this?
33:16I don't think so.
33:17Yeah?
33:17What kind of character would you make out of him?
33:20Dude, you might want to get a better bandage and gauze pad on that thing.
33:23It looked a little messy back there.
33:25It was a long trip down here.
33:27Did he recently have the surgery or what?
33:29I think, like, I had it actually on my birthday, March 14th.
33:31All right.
33:32And, um...
33:33All right.
33:33How do we get rid of you two guys?
33:34That's my question.
33:35I just got one question for Vince.
33:36Go ahead.
33:37Go ahead.
33:37There's a lot of talk that if you do take over the WCW, that you'll be getting
33:41the archives, all the past footage, and possibly there's talks of a 24-hour wrestling channel.
33:47Is there anything else on that, or is that just all rumors?
33:50Wrestling channel.
33:51No talks on it, really.
33:53Okay.
33:53Do you need 24 hours of wrestling?
33:55Yes.
33:56Dude, you know what?
33:57You need a good doctor to sew up that hole in your butt.
33:59Well, actually, that's what you need.
34:01They can't switch it.
34:02It has to heal from the inside out.
34:04Very good.
34:04That's more than I need to know.
34:05All right.
34:05Get these two guys out here.
34:06Who do you got there next?
34:07Anybody else?
34:07Where's that intro?
34:08Howard, the line of people's down the hall.
34:10Why?
34:10Because everybody's here to meet Vince.
34:12Really?
34:13Vince, look at this.
34:13And shit, there's a pretty hot chick, too.
34:15What's your hot chick?
34:16One of our former interns.
34:17How hot you are, Vince?
34:17Let's bring in the current crazy intern and the former intern.
34:20This crazy intern earned the right to speak to you by getting bagels thrown at him.
34:23He took one in the nuts and one in the head.
34:26This cutie here with the red hair is Siobhan.
34:28She interned for a couple of semesters ago.
34:29This is Ryan.
34:30All right.
34:31What's up, Vince?
34:31How you doing?
34:31How you doing?
34:32I'm doing pretty good.
34:33Hey, Siobhan.
34:34How you doing, honey?
34:35Good.
34:35How you doing?
34:36You're into wrestling?
34:37You're into wrestling?
34:42Yeah, probably.
34:45Look at that.
34:47Damn, Vince.
34:47You sure you're not cheating on that wife?
34:49No.
34:49No, I'm not.
34:50You're crazy.
34:51I know.
34:52What is it, Siobhan?
34:53What do you want to say to Vince?
34:54Or you just want to look at him?
34:55Well, I'll look at you first.
34:57But secondly, I just want to say that...
34:59Are you damp right now?
35:01Are you looking at Vince?
35:02You look like a woman in love.
35:03No, I'm still not a starstruck type person, but...
35:06Except...
35:07Honey, you could be looking at me like that.
35:09I'm crying out loud.
35:11Yeah.
35:11But, you know, I've watched wrestling since, you know, I was a kid.
35:15She's going to cry.
35:16You know, I think you have such a great product.
35:18Thank you very much.
35:21Plus, you know, you're Irish-American.
35:24And, you know...
35:24There you go.
35:25Wow.
35:26There you go.
35:27Very pretty girl.
35:29You leave your number for Mr. McMahon.
35:30Oh, I'd love to.
35:31He's thinking of giving you a job.
35:32Me and my boyfriend.
35:34Go change the dressing on that last guy with the double.
35:36Matches.
35:37All right, go ahead.
35:37Here's your crazy intern.
35:39What do you want?
35:39What's up, Howard?
35:40Hey, Vince, I just want to ask you a quick question.
35:41Yeah.
35:42I just graduated college.
35:43I'm an FSU graduate.
35:44I graduated around the summertime.
35:44I want to tell you that I love your WWF.
35:47I would love to one day write for you guys.
35:48Great.
35:49And I want to tell you this, that I hate the Parent Television Council.
35:51I hate what they're doing to you with SmackDown.
35:53I hate the American Family Association.
35:55Howard, those are the people that send you all those cards.
35:56Yes.
35:57Yeah.
35:57I, by the way, applaud your taking a stand against those people.
36:00Thanks.
36:00Because Lord knows they're hammering me.
36:02Yeah.
36:02They're a bunch of stupid, ignorant crackheads who are just leading.
36:06They're just idiots.
36:07I don't know that they're crackheads, but he's got a whole thing of notes, man.
36:10Dude, are you going to filibuster?
36:12No, no, I'm not going to filibuster.
36:13I'm going to be real quick, Howard.
36:14I'm going to be back answering the phones.
36:16Vince, I want to ask you a question.
36:17I think you're a reasonable guy.
36:18I want to know if I can possibly do this.
36:21What, have sex with him?
36:22I don't think so.
36:23He wants to take him to lunch.
36:24Yeah.
36:25He doesn't want to go to lunch with you either.
36:26Neither do I.
36:27Neither does anyone else.
36:29Listen to this.
36:29This guy's so crazy, he called your office to find out what you like for breakfast.
36:33He wanted to buy you breakfast.
36:34He's going to buy you breakfast and bring it to you.
36:36I said, stay away from Vince.
36:38I think he was right.
36:39I got it from Rich Rose.
36:41Vince, how are you staying in good shape?
36:42How old are you at this point?
36:43I'm 55.
36:44You're 55 and you're muscular as hell.
36:46You're not doing the juice or anything, right?
36:47No, I'm not doing the juice.
36:48It's just good training and nutrition.
36:51Really?
36:51Yeah.
36:51What do you eat?
36:52Take off your shirt.
36:53Let us see.
36:53I'm not going to take off your pants.
36:54Let's do it.
36:55What size are your penis?
36:56Let's get down to it.
36:59Although there's enough people who can tell us, right?
37:01That's right.
37:02But seriously, what are you eating?
37:04I mean, are you eating some kind of special diet?
37:06No, it's really high protein and not a lot of carbs.
37:10What do you eat for breakfast?
37:11Egg whites.
37:12That's it?
37:12That's what the guy's eating?
37:13Generally tomatoes, egg whites, you know, some fruit.
37:16No bread?
37:16No, no, I'll go for a bagel or something like that.
37:18Yeah, with jelly.
37:20No, no, no, no.
37:21No jelly.
37:22No, that's a carbohydrate.
37:23You like jelly on the side, by the way.
37:24No.
37:25We know that, right?
37:26And black coffee with one skim milk.
37:29Right.
37:29That's it.
37:30We know.
37:31That's great.
37:31We got a crazy intern.
37:33And then what do you do?
37:33You don't eat until lunch?
37:34No, no, no.
37:35I eat all the time.
37:36What do you eat?
37:37I want to know what you eat between lunch.
37:38You eat protein bars and stuff like that.
37:40You know, for lunch, it's generally chicken breast or, you know, roast beef.
37:44You eat a lot of meat.
37:45Do you do a lot of aerobics or not?
37:47Actually, the older I get, the more you have to do aerobics.
37:50But you're eating a lot of food, though, right?
37:51Yeah, I'm eating a lot of food.
37:53Because you weigh a lot.
37:53I mean, you're not a light guy.
37:55I mean, you're a big guy.
37:56But is the trick just to stay away from bread and stuff?
37:58No, again, I think that, you know, it's the balance of training and nutrition that's important.
38:03And how are your abs?
38:04Are they good?
38:04I mean, you're good.
38:05They're not bad.
38:05Yeah.
38:06I mean, again, the more cardio I do, the better they are.
38:08I always get a big roll over there.
38:10Because the more I do, the hungrier I get.
38:11But you have it.
38:13And when you eat the right foods and you eat often, it actually increases your metabolism.
38:18It doesn't seem to work for me.
38:20I've heard that.
38:21I've heard that.
38:21It's true.
38:23Are you done with Vince?
38:24I just want to ask him the one question.
38:25It's like a...
38:26All right.
38:26Just get to him.
38:27Okay.
38:27I've got diarrhea of the mouth.
38:28Okay.
38:29All right.
38:29I just want to ask you one.
38:30Yeah.
38:31Would it be possible to ever do a week tryout on writing for your television show?
38:34Sure.
38:34Okay.
38:35And I just...
38:36I'm going to give you three options real quick.
38:37Just try to get a hold of them.
38:38Okay.
38:40Two, do a guest running on an outspot in an upcoming paper.
38:42Get out of here.
38:43You're out of your mind.
38:44Okay.
38:44No, I can't leave that the third one.
38:46Okay.
38:46Get put through a table by the Dudley Bulls.
38:48All right.
38:49Get out of here.
38:49I'm going to put you through a table.
38:50Yes, Howard.
38:51Howard, let me introduce you to the next set of people.
38:53Because I always think this is the oddest thing about this.
38:55This is a...
38:55It's a family who watches the whole thing.
38:57You know Bobo?
38:59Here's Bobo and his two...
39:00Oh, my goodness.
39:00His two grown sons and their friend.
39:02And I guess these guys get together all the time and hang around and watch WWF.
39:06Bobo, why don't you take that horrible toupee off for once?
39:08Yeah, look at your son.
39:09He's not so bold.
39:10Your son's bald and he's fine.
39:11Look at that.
39:11I'm proud of him.
39:12Look at that dead squirrel on his head, Vince.
39:14You are proud.
39:14It's stone cold.
39:15Yeah.
39:16It's like Justin Credible, right?
39:17It's a whole wrestling...
39:18It's certainly a whole wrestling family.
39:20It's the posse.
39:20It's a posse.
39:21It's a whole wrestling family.
39:22It's from deliverance.
39:23What do you have to ask, Vince, quickly?
39:25The man's very...
39:25He's a billionaire.
39:26I don't need you.
39:27Well, Howard, if you really want to see what's going on beneath that toupee, I've got a proposal
39:31for you.
39:31Yeah?
39:31My brother and I will wrestle Gary and Benji.
39:34And if we lose, the wig comes off.
39:37I don't care about your father's wig.
39:38What's your question for Vince?
39:39All right.
39:39Well, first of all, I did a term paper on you, my friend, and a WWF show Raw.
39:44My teacher hates Raw, and she is...
39:46So what's your flunk?
39:47She's highbrow.
39:48You know, she's all about opera and the theater.
39:50And she says...
39:51What's the question?
39:51The question is...
39:52I actually had a question about tough enough.
39:54What happens when you win?
39:55Do you actually get a shot?
39:56Sure.
39:57You get signed to a contract right away?
39:59Right.
40:00Is it like dark matches, and if you have talent, then you proceed from there?
40:03Or is it like you don't come down on heat right away, right?
40:05Or something like that?
40:06No, actually, if you're a winner and you get a WWF contract, we would have to put you
40:09on one of the major shows at least once to see how well you do.
40:12Right.
40:13People are obsessed with this.
40:14Well, how big is the wrestling audience?
40:16Vince McMahon is a god, Howard.
40:17Really?
40:18He's a god.
40:19It's no wonder you're getting laid left and right.
40:21I have no idea what you had going on.
40:23Howard, I have total respect for what he does, but don't you feel like these guys are talking
40:25a language that we don't know about?
40:27Yeah, I mean, they seem to know everything.
40:28He's a god.
40:29He has such a guts.
40:30Do you go home and laugh at people like Bobo and his family?
40:32No.
40:33I mean, see, if you ever sit there and just giggle at all?
40:36If it wasn't for us, it wouldn't be no wrestling.
40:38Exactly.
40:39He knows that.
40:40Good grammar, Bobo.
40:43If it wasn't for us, there wouldn't be no wrestling.
40:45That's why we love him.
40:46That's Bobo.
40:47That's right.
40:47I have a question for Vince.
40:49The other night on the Bob Costas interview...
40:52How old are you, Bobo?
40:5447.
40:54You're right, Howard.
40:55Do you see Bobo's facial hair?
40:56Yeah.
40:57Is he dying his mustache and then a streak of hair?
41:00First of all...
41:01Yeah, he's dying his mustache.
41:02He has a bad squirrel on his head.
41:03The mustache grows to the nose, but he's trimming three-quarters of the mustache away to just
41:07have the pencil thin one.
41:09Then he's got the fake thing, and then he's dying the beard.
41:11What is your question, Bobo?
41:12I want to hear from you.
41:13The other night on Bob Costas, how much of that entertainment was real, and how much
41:16of it was, you know, real?
41:19What?
41:20Can I go to college?
41:22Can I rephrase that?
41:23Let me ask you something.
41:24The guy was...
41:25Let me ask you, Gary.
41:26You refuse to let your kids watch wrestling?
41:28Why is that?
41:28My kid's six years old.
41:29Why not let him watch it?
41:30Do you think it's appropriate for a six-year-old?
41:31No.
41:31Yeah, he doesn't think so.
41:32He don't?
41:33No.
41:33No, for six.
41:34A six-year-old, you're not going to understand it, right?
41:36Yeah, I mean, I don't think I understand it.
41:37Did you get in trouble for some woman taking her clothes off the other night on wrestling?
41:40Yeah.
41:41No.
41:41No, Vince, he did.
41:42No, here's what happened.
41:43What are you saying?
41:44Okay.
41:46Part of one of the scripts was he had a woman undressed, stripped down to her panties.
41:49What's wrong with that?
41:50No.
41:50Nothing.
41:51I don't think I had a problem with it, but there's kids in the audience, and a lot of
41:54people were upset at the fact that...
41:55Did they get mad?
41:56No.
41:56Who are those people?
41:57Who would get mad at a woman in panties?
41:58I'll tell you, you know what I was weirded out about?
42:00What?
42:00Which Vince said on the Costas show, they don't do anymore.
42:02One of the wrestlers, and I can't remember which one, when he'd get a guy down on the ground,
42:06he would stand over him and put his hands over by his area and go,
42:08suck it, suck it, suck it.
42:10I didn't think it was appropriate for a six-year-old, but he says he doesn't do that anymore.
42:13You don't do that anymore, Vince?
42:14No.
42:14I'd like to see that.
42:15It's on the weekend.
42:16Well, Bob Costas ambushed Vince.
42:17I'm paying for you to do that.
42:19Vince, did you know all Vince was going on?
42:20All right, you were upset with Bob Costas?
42:22I hate the guy now.
42:23Why do you hate him?
42:24What did he do wrong?
42:24Because he ambushed poor Vince.
42:25Well, Vince can handle himself.
42:26Of course he can, but I mean, he was totally against the outcome.
42:29They took that clip and showed it totally out of context.
42:31Which clip?
42:32The clip about Trish stripping down.
42:34I see.
42:34It all has a story.
42:35It's all storyline, and it has a purpose.
42:37That's what I have in my paper.
42:38Well, one thing to ask, Vince, is were you told that you were going to be in an antagonistic
42:43environment when you did the Costas show?
42:45No, but you just have to assume that.
42:47Yeah.
42:47And they did ask for footage, and I thought they wanted to talk about XFL because it was
42:51a sports show.
42:52Uh-huh.
42:52And I said, well, then why do you need WBF entertainment footage?
42:56No, you get no footage.
42:57Uh-huh.
42:57Of course, they aired it, anyhow.
42:58They aired it, anyway.
42:59You know what happened?
42:59What about a match where you wrestle Bobo's toupee?
43:02Yeah.
43:04Hey, Vince, get back to my question.
43:06The other night, though, how much was that real or entertainment?
43:09Well, how much was real?
43:09Yeah, how much was real?
43:10It was all real.
43:11It was all, you know, fake.
43:13It was every bit of it was fake.
43:15Bob Costas, right now, if he's listening, he's saying, oh, my God, my credibility.
43:19Right.
43:19It looks like they want to kick his ass.
43:20But I have a question.
43:21Were you going to kick Bob Costas?
43:23Seriously, you were right in his face.
43:24You had your finger in his face.
43:26And he was trying to act like he was not intimidated.
43:28But did you sense that he was scared?
43:30Was he shaking?
43:31And also, were you going to hit him?
43:32No, I mean, you know, again, I would like that if Bob were about 6'6 and 3'30, it
43:37would
43:37have been a very interesting television.
43:39Right.
43:39Because I don't like being interrupted, you know, in that way.
43:42Right.
43:42You know, maybe he's going to ask me a question, let me answer it, you know, and then ask me
43:46the next question.
43:47Hey, Vince, I don't know if you heard this the other day.
43:48We had two girls come in here.
43:49They were XFL cheerleaders.
43:51Right.
43:51They were disgruntled.
43:52They said, we want to quit the XFL because we were promised we were going to get to act.
43:55Well, they didn't say they wanted to quit.
43:57And yet they basically said, look, we have some complaints and we don't know if we'll
44:00be fired for airing them.
44:01Right.
44:02Yeah.
44:02So these girls came.
44:03Do you mind talking to them?
44:04I don't want to put you in this.
44:04I don't want to.
44:05No.
44:05Bring the girls in.
44:06Let's hear their complaints.
44:07Okay.
44:07Bring them in.
44:08Had you heard about this?
44:09Yeah, I did.
44:10Are they going to be off the XFL?
44:11I mean, they didn't badmouth the XFL, but they did say, hey, we don't like that we're
44:16not being used properly and we think we're going to be a bigger story.
44:19We were promised things that have not happened.
44:20You don't need that aggravation, do you?
44:22What do you need?
44:23Some mouthy girls?
44:24Although they are hot.
44:25Wait a minute.
44:25Here they come.
44:26They're so hot.
44:26You should bring these, too.
44:27Oh, my God.
44:29Oh, yeah.
44:29They look great.
44:30Look at those two girls.
44:31Nice.
44:32All right.
44:32Who chose them?
44:33I don't know.
44:34Oh, yeah.
44:35Vince is like, no, they're hired.
44:37Girls, go ahead.
44:38Here is Mr. McMahon himself.
44:39He's not afraid of you.
44:40You say you are disgruntled.
44:41Go ahead, and we'll give this a shot.
44:43Go ahead.
44:43What do you want to say to Vince McMahon?
44:44Hi, Vince.
44:45Hi.
44:46We just want to talk to you because we were promised a lot of things, actually, from our
44:49director.
44:50What were you promised from your director?
44:52Everything from a calendar to a national commercial to a...
44:55To it being like a sitcom where we were to be known.
44:57To a lot of stuff.
44:58Like a TV show.
44:59Vince, isn't it true that this is something that's just getting off the ground?
45:01The girls be more patient.
45:02Is that the idea?
45:04Jeez, you know, I would imagine a calendar would be a pretty big seller.
45:08Howard, you know what her beef is?
45:09I know what her beef is.
45:10I'm sorry.
45:10I see her beef.
45:11Bonnie Jill.
45:11Bonnie Jill.
45:12She's really knowledgeable about sports.
45:14She thinks she can be a sportscaster, and she was promised she'd be able to go up
45:17in the booth, and they're not letting her do that.
45:19Who promised you that?
45:21Our director.
45:22Isn't it true the XFL, though, is paying you way more?
45:25You were an NFL cheerleader.
45:26Yes.
45:27You worked for the Dallas Cowboys.
45:28Mm-hmm.
45:28You made...
45:29How much did you make a week?
45:30Well, it depends.
45:31For each game, we'd $15 for Dallas Cowboys.
45:33Is it Mr. McMahon giving you $1,000 a game just to dance?
45:36Mm-hmm.
45:37So isn't that, say, something for the man, that he's coming through with money?
45:41But what they were saying was that I already had for years.
45:42Yeah, definitely for money-wise, yes.
45:43Right, right.
45:44Money-wise, he's coming through.
45:45And you were saying you already had careers and stuff, but to go in the booth and start
45:49broadcasting...
45:49Well, it was just that there was a lot of things that we were just promised, because
45:51our cheerleading days were done.
45:53We were done cheering.
45:53We wanted to further our careers, so acting, modeling, stuff, was to help us.
45:57And so that's what we were told, and all we're doing is cheering.
46:02But you were hired as cheerleaders.
46:03No.
46:04No, no, no.
46:04She even said the other day that the cheers aren't even that great.
46:07You know, they're great dancers, and they're getting very rudimentary, you know, stripper
46:11stuff to do.
46:12Yeah, they want to sleep with the players, Vince.
46:13What do you say?
46:14And they also want to have affairs with the players.
46:16Yeah, we were told it was going to be scripted.
46:19Vince, what about that?
46:20Answer these girls.
46:21You know, it's all about opportunity.
46:23I mean, and can certainly have the opportunity.
46:25So, you know, if it hasn't happened yet, probably will.
46:29You just need to stay in and hang in there for a while.
46:31You know, the calendar of it.
46:32I think they got fired.
46:34Oh, they got fired.
46:35That's not good.
46:36You ain't hanging in.
46:37Are you girls officially fired?
46:39What's going on now?
46:40After you came on our show?
46:41We were going to ask Ben.
46:42So they asked you to turn in your uniforms, right?
46:44Yeah.
46:45We were told from...
46:45But it's weird.
46:46It's like turning in your uniforms, and then they call back, we need to talk about this.
46:51Yeah, because you're hot chicks.
46:52I mean, I certainly would watch them on TV.
46:55Yeah, me too.
46:56See, maybe you and I should have a private meeting with them.
46:58Maybe.
46:58You know, I don't think your wife would mind.
47:00Ben hasn't lost his wandering eye.
47:01I wonder how good that training of the mind is.
47:04I think the penis is winning the argument.
47:06See, I wouldn't find these two, because to me, suddenly they're interesting.
47:09I know who they are, and now I'm interested in them because they're disgruntled.
47:12Yeah, I like disgruntled chicks.
47:13Yeah, I do.
47:14No, now two of the L.A. cheerleaders.
47:15Who don't pay for anything.
47:16Yeah.
47:17I just know I want to bang Bonnie, Jill, and Brandy.
47:20And I just want to figure out how I can win that.
47:22Well, anyway, girls, you've made your case.
47:24Yeah.
47:25I think Mr. McMahon could care less.
47:26Well, no, that's not necessarily true.
47:28What will you do now, Vince, that you know there are disgruntled cheerleaders out there?
47:31Will you huddle it?
47:32He will go eat egg whites.
47:33Yeah.
47:35And power bars and work out in his private gym.
47:37That's what he'll do.
47:38Robin and I would be honored, Mr. McMahon, to work out in your private gym with you.
47:41Great.
47:42And we'll be up there as soon as you do the invite.
47:44Yeah, tell us.
47:44You're invited now.
47:46Perfect.
47:46And we want to hang out at your estate in Manchin.
47:48And be on the plane.
47:49On your private jet.
47:50Yeah, he can't get off.
47:51What did you get on?
47:52That's okay.
47:52We're not looking through.
47:53Yeah.
47:53There's a lot more people out there.
47:54I know we can't get to all of them, but there is one guy out there who thinks he can
47:57be a WWF wrestler.
47:58He wants to get on.
47:58Let me see you.
47:59You get this all day.
48:01Are you like Chuck Barris who are on the gong show?
48:02He's got to drive.
48:03People used to just come and hit him up all the time.
48:05Do people hit you up all the time?
48:07Often.
48:07Often, yeah.
48:08Do you not go out much to avoid this kind of thing?
48:11I don't get out much, no.
48:13And what do you look for in a wrestler?
48:16I mean, is there a personality?
48:18I mean, all of them can wrestle.
48:19I mean, it's just...
48:19Actually, they really can.
48:20Right.
48:20I mean, and you really have to look at their skills in the ring and skills outside the ring, too.
48:24Right.
48:25You need a good performer in and out of the ring.
48:28Oh, look at this guy.
48:29There's no way you could wrestle the dude.
48:30He's going to wrestle.
48:31He's going to wrestle that guitar.
48:32Dude.
48:33How are you doing, Hal?
48:33Do you ever take a look at yourself?
48:35You don't weigh enough to wrestle.
48:36These guys are huge.
48:37They're massive.
48:38Woodstock is over.
48:39Yeah.
48:39And you're dressed like a rocket.
48:41You're wearing a Bon Jovi t-shirt, and you're dressed like Bon Jovi.
48:44That's my wrestling character.
48:46Right.
48:46I actually am an independent wrestler.
48:48You are?
48:49Yes.
48:49Your wrestling character is who?
48:51Who is your character?
48:51Bon Jovi?
48:52Donnie Bon Jovi.
48:53Yes, it is.
48:54Don Bon Jovi.
48:55Don Bon Jovi.
48:56Yes.
48:56Oh, he might be onto something here.
48:58I'm stupid about it.
48:59And what is it?
49:00Go ahead.
49:00Describe to Vince what it is you do.
49:02Okay, I come out to the ring.
49:04I'm actually an independent wrestler.
49:05I have my New York State wrestling license.
49:07And I come out to the ring as an 80s rock star.
49:10Yeah.
49:11You look like Linda Blair, actually.
49:13Yeah.
49:14And you come out.
49:15And I come out.
49:16I lip sync to rock music.
49:17Yes.
49:17And I play.
49:18I don't actually play guitar, but this is just my character.
49:21Right.
49:21And then what do you do?
49:22Do you El Caban guys with your guitar?
49:24No.
49:24With your voice?
49:25No.
49:26No.
49:26And what do you do?
49:27I actually wrestle.
49:28All right.
49:30Isn't he tiny?
49:31Vince.
49:31I mean, Vince, you can kick his ass in two seconds.
49:33I mean, he's a small guy.
49:35Doesn't he need to juice up a little or something?
49:37Needs to train for sure.
49:39Yeah.
49:39Yeah.
49:39I am training.
49:40I do go to a school in New Jersey.
49:42How long do you think you have?
49:44Yeah.
49:44I mean, how long are we going to wait for you to bulk up?
49:46I'm curious.
49:46What do you have to do to get your license to wrestle?
49:48Oh, I went to a school.
49:50And they have to endorse you.
49:51They have to write a letter.
49:52What is that?
49:52The college?
49:53What do you mean?
49:55What school do you go to?
49:56I mean, an actual wrestling school where they teach you how to do the bumps and the falls
50:00and everything.
50:01Vince, do you...
50:02Do you take people right out of wrestling college?
50:04I take them out of school.
50:06What happens to you if you wrestle without a license?
50:08In some states, you need a wrestling license.
50:11In some states, you don't need a wrestling license to do shows.
50:13Vince, have you ever heard of this?
50:14Yeah.
50:15There's like...
50:16It sells the licenses.
50:17No.
50:18It sells the licenses.
50:19It's a state scam, you know, where they do have athletic equipment.
50:22Could he at least be a midget wrestler?
50:25You still do...
50:26No one does midget wrestling anymore, does he?
50:27It's not a lot.
50:28No, I like it.
50:28He could be one of the female wrestlers.
50:32Howard, what would it look like?
50:34Howard, when I came here today, because I heard that Vince was going to be here on the
50:37radio, I took off at work and I took a cab all the way from Long Island and showed
50:41my wrestling license that I am legit, that I'm willing to do practically anything.
50:46Kiss your ass, Vince.
50:47Vince, I'll kiss your ass.
50:48You can pull down your pants, I'll kiss your ass.
50:50Vince, pull down your pants and let this guy...
50:52Yes, for what?
50:53Because as an independent wrestler, it's very hard to get a tryout with the WWF, sometimes
50:57the WWF.
50:57Have you seen the WWF?
50:59Yes, yes.
51:00I've been...
51:00These guys are in great shape.
51:02They have very defined, muscular bodies.
51:05Yeah, you're completely out of your mind with this, but listen, what can I tell you?
51:08I don't know anything about wrestling, and Vince is looking at you like you're from the
51:11moon.
51:12So, you know, I don't know.
51:13I don't think he's really turned on to you.
51:14You should wrestle KC.
51:15This is your character?
51:16Yes.
51:17I'd like to meet the other guy.
51:19Well, anyway, listen, I think Bonnie Jean could kick your ass.
51:23Do they come to you with their character already, or do you build something around them?
51:27Some people have ideas.
51:28You're trying to make a serious interview out of this?
51:31It's an event.
51:32It's a big event.
51:34Stone Cold Steve Austin versus The Rock in WrestleMania 10, is it?
51:38Or 7?
51:38No, 17, actually.
51:3917?
51:40Right.
51:40It's been around a while.
51:41Live Sunday, April 1st at 8.
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