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0:00 - Experiences With Demonic Possession
1:22 - Casting Out Demons and Spiritual Authority
4:33 - A Difficult Exorcism and Spiritual Hierarchies
8:12 - The Spiritual Realm and Life Commitments
12:36 - Experiences With Ouija, Astral Projection, and Spiritual Gifts
16:42 - Debate on Spiritual Gifts and Speaking in Tongues
23:20 - The Antichrist, Familiar Spirits, and Miracles
31:10 - Aliens, Project Blue Beam, and Spiritual Deception


Transcript
00:00Have you ever performed an exorcism like casting a demon out of someone?
00:04I was, like I said, I was acting up a lot in school and then the pastor,
00:08two people got demon possessed in that church I was going to.
00:10It was a church where there was a lot of demonic possession going on, right?
00:14Which was that one near the...
00:15Dete Hero.
00:16Yeah.
00:17And then, like, what happened?
00:19A girl became possessed and the pastor went to help and cast the demon out of her.
00:26And finally, we were stacking the chairs and stuff and it was just me,
00:29the pastor and a few elderly ladies at the church.
00:32A very humble little church and all.
00:34Up to that point, it was all good.
00:36I was there with the pastor, but then another one got possessed.
00:38I thought, now it's my turn.
00:40It fell on you.
00:41There's no way around it.
00:42I'm going to have to go there, man.
00:43But did you already have some idea what to do?
00:47Knowledge from watching others do it, right?
00:51There were no courses, right?
00:53Die, my friend.
00:54In Jesus' name, get out of there.
00:56And it was a young woman I had taken to the service.
00:59I had brought her.
01:00Wow.
01:00I had no idea that she was going to collapse, possessed by a demon there, right?
01:05And she was already involved in the occult many years ago.
01:09And so I wanted to bring her onto God's path.
01:11Come with me.
01:12I got there and she was very big, like a heavier set girl with a really large body structure.
01:19If the lady prays for me, I say, go on, go ahead, right?
01:22What was she doing?
01:23Man, she was doing this.
01:25Look.
01:27Stay with Helena, man.
01:28To watch.
01:29My God.
01:30I couldn't even ask the pastor because the pastor was already dealing with that girl over there.
01:34And she was causing a whole scene.
01:36Yeah.
01:36Man, a demon.
01:38It took hold of that girl, man, so hard.
01:41And she was a girl who every week wouldn't take a stand, wouldn't surrender her life to Jesus.
01:45Every week she would stay behind.
01:48Then this woman, right, snorting there, I went, right?
01:51I started reaching out.
01:52Then I went.
01:53Right when I was about to lay my hands on her, I, I said, God, the moment I lay my
01:57hands on her, let fire come out of my hand.
02:00The moment I laid my hand on her, man, whoa.
02:03She immediately threw her arms out.
02:04Yeah.
02:05Like this.
02:05Stretched out her arms like this.
02:06Spread her arms.
02:07Then she scratched both my arms, man.
02:08I was startled.
02:09I thought, I'm going to get beaten up.
02:10Yeah, yeah.
02:11The Bible talks about men who got beaten up and ran out naked from the service.
02:15And then.
02:18All of a sudden, I said, come out in Jesus name.
02:20I said, come out in Jesus name.
02:21And I started casting it out like that and stuff.
02:23And she was just smiling.
02:25She started laughing.
02:26He said, stop blaspheming against God.
02:28Come out in Jesus name and stuff.
02:30She started laughing.
02:31Faye, I know what you do at school.
02:32You hear?
02:33And she started giving those sarcastic looks.
02:35I know everything you do back at your place, man.
02:38Who am I to come trying to cast him out?
02:41To judge.
02:41He's an accuser.
02:42You are bound in the name of Jesus.
02:44And it didn't leave, man.
02:45Really?
02:46It did leave.
02:46Even in Jesus name, does it sometimes not leave?
02:49No.
02:50Because think about it.
02:51It's not nice.
02:51It doesn't want to obey God's orders.
02:54So it's not like you just say, come out in Jesus name and he leaves.
02:57Can that happen?
02:57Yes.
02:59Sometimes it's a legion, man.
03:00Sometimes it's millions, thousands of demons in there.
03:04It's not going to leave just.
03:06And sometimes you don't have that authority.
03:08That doesn't mean that Jesus name lacks power.
03:09No.
03:09But it means that it is persistent.
03:13You see?
03:13It means he'll do everything he can not to leave and to make us give up.
03:18It has nothing to do with that.
03:19The name of Jesus is completely sufficient.
03:22It is the name that is above all names.
03:24But sometimes you have some open doors that don't give you power over that.
03:28Is that it?
03:29To invoke, to use the name of Jesus.
03:30Jesus once told us the disciples were unable to cast out the demon.
03:34From a father.
03:36The son of a father.
03:36Jesus had just come down from the Mount of Transfiguration.
03:40Okay.
03:41And he was there with his three disciples, right?
03:43Peter, James, and John, if I'm not mistaken.
03:45When he came down, a desperate father came to Jesus.
03:48I'm desperate.
03:49Your disciples here couldn't cast the demon out of my son.
03:52And Jesus said, oh, what a perverse and unbelieving generation.
03:56How long will I have to stay with you?
03:58Because Jesus was full of glory and teaching them how to do it the whole time.
04:02Right, man?
04:03They learned from the master, right?
04:04And then Jesus went there and cast it out.
04:06But when he cast it out, the boy still caused trouble.
04:09Started thrashing around until he left.
04:11And then the disciples said, how come, right?
04:13And Jesus said, it's just that in certain cases, it only comes out by prayer and fasting.
04:20Certain kinds of demons only come out with prayer and fasting.
04:23You know, it's a hierarchy.
04:24And then, actually, before Jesus said that, he said, like, it's because of your little faith.
04:29Because there are demons that come out with prayer and fasting.
04:33A lot of people say these.
04:35No, so does that mean fasting has nothing to do with it?
04:38That it's about faith because Jesus said it's because they had little faith.
04:41Right?
04:43I believe it's because there's a hierarchy.
04:45You know, you have to be consecrated.
04:47You get me?
04:48And what happens?
04:52Faith, of course.
04:53Faith is fundamental.
04:54Right?
04:57But there are cases where, in this boy's case, for example, I believe it's a legion.
05:01You know, and I'll give you another example.
05:04About six months ago, a friend of mine called me in the middle of the night, four o'clock in
05:08the morning.
05:09Juninho, come over here.
05:10My brother is possessed, man.
05:16What kind of demon would show up at this time of night?
05:20Wait until tomorrow morning.
05:22My wife said, honey, do this.
05:24And they say three in the morning is the devil's hour.
05:26Right?
05:26Have you ever heard that?
05:27I've already made a video about that.
05:28I've already made videos about everything imaginable.
05:31Talk about it later.
05:32So, I want to know why, okay?
05:35Here's what happened.
05:36Well, my wife said, honey, pray right from here, honey.
05:41The demon is Wi-Fi.
05:43It's Bluetooth.
05:44Man, this word.
05:45The spirit realm is right here.
05:47There's no distance.
05:47Jesus commanded, no way.
05:48Right here.
05:49So, I prayed.
05:52And I said, let's pray together.
05:53I prayed with him.
05:54Then he said, hey, Juninho, it didn't go away, man.
05:56Damn, I said, babe.
05:59Look, either I'm a pastor or I'm not.
06:00Now is the time to show my calling.
06:02I have to help him out.
06:03I won't sleep in peace until I help my friend, man.
06:06I went to his house.
06:08I got there.
06:09At least it was close.
06:10A guy was smoking that gas up there.
06:12Then he saw me.
06:13Didn't react at all.
06:14Totally blank expression, man.
06:15Did you know that person before?
06:16No, I'd never seen him before.
06:18Never seen him.
06:19Right, then you get scared.
06:20Why?
06:21You also have to be cautious.
06:22You have to pray with your eyes open.
06:24If you close your eyes, the demon might hit you right there.
06:26He will.
06:27You know, it's not some cute little thing that's just going to leave.
06:30He won't want to leave.
06:31You understand?
06:31But you have to use authority in the name of Jesus.
06:34From far away, I started saying, I'll do it from a distance, right?
06:37I started in Jesus' name.
06:38Leave.
06:39Leave.
06:40And he was smoking, right?
06:41Man, if you looked into his eyes, you'd think, this guy isn't normal, bro.
06:44Man.
06:45Whoa.
06:45This is heavy stuff.
06:46The battle is going to be fierce here.
06:48All I know is, I prayed, prayed, prayed for about five minutes, man.
06:53I finished praying.
06:54I took a drag.
06:55Are you done with your prayer?
06:57Man.
06:57He was even mocking me.
06:59He was mocking me.
07:00He had no respect, you know?
07:05And what happened?
07:06Right there, I thought, man, I can't be here alone.
07:10When Jesus sent out the disciples to evangelize and even cast out demons, he was always chew
07:15by chew.
07:17I thought, at the same time, I need to be cautious.
07:20You know, I might get beat up here, take a beating.
07:22I won't be able to hold the guy down, you know?
07:25No, and then what happened?
07:26Right then, I called a pastor friend of mine.
07:27Man, it has to be now.
07:29Thank God he answered the phone.
07:30Yeah.
07:31I called him urgently and we went back.
07:33He said, yeah, we're going to have to face this.
07:35The guy was in the same position.
07:36About 40 minutes had already passed.
07:38I had to go there, wait for the guy to get ready and all.
07:42In the exact same position, he said, let's go now.
07:44We walked up to him, put a hand on him.
07:46Nothing.
07:46No reaction at all.
07:49Jeez.
07:50That's the moment when you think, man, could there be some sin in my life?
07:54Right?
07:54At that point, we were already repenting.
07:57God, if I've sinned, forgive me.
07:58But that's not it, you know?
08:00What does he do?
08:00He likes to hide, man.
08:03He doesn't want you to identify him.
08:05Get it?
08:06Because they're all sent, you know?
08:07If someone is, if a demon enters a person, it's usually a higher demon that sent it.
08:12Yeah.
08:12That's how it all works.
08:13It's a soldier.
08:14There's a hierarchy, you know?
08:15I get it.
08:17What happened, man?
08:18We started praying, asking for discernment.
08:21And then God touched his heart and said, look, it's going to start now.
08:27And he started praying in tongues.
08:29And he felt he had the discernment from God.
08:31Because some people have a deliverance ministry like that, you know?
08:34Yeah.
08:35Yeah.
08:37The Bible doesn't mention that.
08:39But you see it clearly, man.
08:40Some people have it.
08:41Have a neck for it.
08:42Man.
08:42He thought, I'm going to look at him.
08:44The moment I look at him, it'll manifest.
08:46He wasn't even manifesting it, man.
08:48After praying for a long time, you think, man, I think I'm praying for the wrong person.
08:52I think he's not demon possessed.
08:54But we didn't give up.
08:55You know?
08:55You have to persist.
08:56The moment he looked at him and started praying in tongues, man, right away he manifested, threw
09:01us onto the couch.
09:02We went rolling over the couch.
09:04Pushed us.
09:04Shout us away, man.
09:05It's superhuman strength.
09:08Superhuman.
09:09Superhuman.
09:09That's why you have to, you can't go alone.
09:11Understand?
09:11Did it scare you or not?
09:13No.
09:13See, I was already used to it.
09:14Oh, you had already done it several times.
09:16I already knew it, but man, it was me, this friend of mine and his brother, the three
09:23of us got together.
09:24Man, we stayed there for like 40 minutes, man, rolling from side to side and he just
09:32wouldn't leave no matter what, cursing and laughing at Jesus.
09:35This Jesus has no power.
09:36You're good for nothing.
09:37You could tell that couldn't be a human being right there.
09:39You know?
09:40A demon, man.
09:41And then?
09:41And then it was really a legion that he said, I'm legion and I'm going to destroy.
09:45Multiple dreams.
09:46And destroy his life.
09:47Thousands, right?
09:48If I'm not mistaken, it's 6,000?
09:51Damn.
09:526,000.
09:53When Jesus told Peter and Peter saw that Jesus was being arrested and then they went there
09:59to arrest Jesus along with Judas.
10:01And then Jesus and then Peter want to act in the flesh, right?
10:04He went there and cut off the soldier's ear because he still had that impulse of his,
10:09right?
10:10And Jesus said, no, put away your sword.
10:12For if you kill with the sword, you will die by the sword.
10:15And he said, don't you, don't you know that if I wanted to, my father would send legions
10:19of angels to protect me, but I want to go.
10:22I'm giving myself up for your sake.
10:24You understand?
10:25I understand.
10:26So yeah, a legion is 6,000.
10:30How did you guys manage to cast it out?
10:33I don't know where the information came from, man, but I think the soldier, the army of
10:36How do you manage to take the guy's legion?
10:41No, then we started.
10:42Come out in the name of Jesus.
10:43Get out, get out, get out.
10:44And right when we identified it there, then it left.
10:47And how the person changes, breaks down, collapsed on the spot.
10:52And the person remembers what happened, right?
10:54I don't remember anything.
10:55Nothing at all.
10:56As I said, the Holy Spirit makes you more clear-headed.
10:59You become more aware of everything.
11:01You know, he won't drug you.
11:03He won't make you do things you wouldn't want to do, right?
11:07Now the devil, he blinds you right there.
11:10You can't see anything, man.
11:12A good person, you know?
11:14And at that point, that's the moment the person should want to surrender their life to Jesus.
11:18Because otherwise the enemy comes back.
11:20Comes back.
11:21And Jesus talked about that, right?
11:22He says, the demon that comes out, he wanders through arid places.
11:27If he returns and finds the house empty.
11:30In other words, the person's heart wasn't filled with the Holy Spirit.
11:34He comes and calls seven more.
11:36And that person's final state becomes worse than the first.
11:39So it's what we're talking about even before recording, right?
11:42Yeah.
11:42And then you see the inmates.
11:47Most of them, dear man, know the word.
11:49Pastor's kid, evangelical, Christian, you know?
11:51Was a godly person.
11:52Was a preacher.
11:53Evangelized.
11:54And now he isn't there.
11:55Why?
11:57Because he left himself open, man.
11:59Then he comes back worse.
12:00And then he comes back worse.
12:01Damn.
12:01So it's a commitment you made in the spiritual world.
12:05When I gave my life to Jesus, I knew what decision I was making.
12:09I wasn't just changing churches, going to church, changing religions.
12:14I was publicly declaring in the spiritual realm that I now belong to Jesus.
12:20Jesus.
12:20So it's like a pact, you know?
12:22What do you do with money?
12:24What you're doing in the spiritual realm is something very serious.
12:27And then the guy who makes a pact, he comes to Jesus.
12:30Man, can you imagine the work it takes?
12:31Yeah.
12:32The guy starts manifesting, you know?
12:34The devil doesn't want to lose.
12:35Butch, butch.
12:36Break the pact.
12:37He can, of course.
12:37Oh, right.
12:39But God allows it.
12:40Telamita.
12:41Because there's spiritual rules, you know?
12:42He gave way too much legal ground.
12:44I get it.
12:45Of course, Jesus forgives.
12:47And even Nyoza, who you had mentioned, right?
12:50I took the spiritual world, of course.
12:51With Daniel Mustral, if I'm not mistaken.
12:54She was the one who prayed for him.
12:56Yeah, that's right.
12:56Right?
12:57So, you see, he was a Satan.
12:58Yeah, it was pretty heavy stuff.
13:00Heavy, right?
13:02Way too heavy.
13:03So, what we have to understand is this.
13:04He doesn't want to live, you know?
13:06It doesn't mean that the name of Jesus isn't working.
13:09There are some rules in this spiritual world.
13:10That apply and are respected, right?
13:13They are respected, right?
13:14That we don't even understand, right?
13:16Yeah.
13:17That whole territorial demons thing, too.
13:20They have power in a certain area.
13:22In the world's territory.
13:24In the world, right?
13:25There are areas with a lot of prostitution, for example.
13:27It's a specific demon for that.
13:29To trap the person in prostitution.
13:32So, the spiritual world is very real, isn't it, man?
13:35And we shouldn't test our luck.
13:37Don't mess around with these things, you know?
13:40The glass game that stuff people do is dangerous.
13:42Man, I used to do that a lot.
13:43Did you?
13:44Yeah, really?
13:45And it works, man.
13:46Does it really work, man?
13:48The pen one, right?
13:49Is anyone there?
13:50Yes or no?
13:51Then, before you know it, the pen starts moving on its own, man.
13:54But isn't it the other guy moving it?
13:56No, no, no.
13:56So, what is it?
13:57Then it's demons.
13:59A demon, man.
14:00And how does he know here for a long time?
14:02Wow.
14:03Gives some really spot-on answers.
14:05And then, I used to play with that a lot back then.
14:07And once I decided to do that Ouija-style glass game.
14:11And then?
14:11At a friend's house, there were about five of us there.
14:15Kid?
14:15Yeah, kid.
14:16When you were a kid.
14:17I was 16 years old.
14:18Man, I was scared to death.
14:20That time with the pen.
14:22I was coming from far away.
14:23They were in front of the gate.
14:24And I was scared.
14:25Like, no, stop that.
14:26Are you scared?
14:27They were joking.
14:28Then suddenly, I get startled.
14:30As the gate starts opening.
14:31It was her dad arriving.
14:33And he clicked the remote.
14:34Right when I was shitting my pants the most.
14:36I said, see?
14:37I told you.
14:38And all that.
14:39But how did that phone call thing happen?
14:40The glass started moving, right?
14:41I thought, no way, man.
14:43But if it is, I thought, folks.
14:45If it's really you here.
14:46Moving this glass right here.
14:47Turn off the light right now, then.
14:49I was just messing around, man.
14:50Why did I have to say that?
14:51The light went out, dude.
14:52Holy crap, man.
14:53The jet.
14:54I was already around the next corner.
14:57They were crashing right into each other.
15:01So, man.
15:02Humans are naturally curious, right?
15:03About these things.
15:05There are places in the spiritual world that God hasn't commanded us to access.
15:10There are doors that God hasn't commanded us to open, you know?
15:13So, people do astral projection.
15:14A lot of people ask me about it.
15:16Yeah.
15:17Miss.
15:17What's that silver cord?
15:19Silver cord.
15:20And if that silver cord gets cut, we're screwed.
15:25So, God doesn't tell us to do these things.
15:27So, it's possible to do things.
15:28It's not just people making stuff up.
15:30It's not made up.
15:31It's not made up.
15:32It's not made up.
15:34The person saw the loved one who had passed away.
15:36It's not made up.
15:37I didn't.
15:37Ah, I went.
15:39I traveled and I went over to another country and I saw all of that.
15:43And I saw myself lying there in bed.
15:45I understand.
15:46I saw myself in bed.
15:47That's astral projection.
15:48It's not made up.
15:49You understand?
15:49It's astral projection.
15:51It's just that it isn't, it isn't, it's dangerous to access these things.
15:57Extremely dangerous.
15:59In fact, there is nothing in the Bible telling you to do that.
16:02Because we have a spiritual body alongside this body, which is physical.
16:08Right, exactly.
16:09This body, it is?
16:11It depends.
16:12Our mind is extremely complex.
16:14In fact, there's a book by Watchman Nee called The Latent Power of the Mind.
16:22Our mind, depending on how much you work on it, you can do these things, man.
16:29You disconnect, you connect in the spiritual realm.
16:32And some people think, no, but I'm going to do good.
16:33I'll go to someone's house to do good, you know.
16:37But, man, the Bible doesn't command us to do that.
16:40And besides, that's the enemy's territory, you know.
16:42Imagine, you're living right here.
16:45Years or someone who has millennia of experience under their belt, right.
16:49Millennia of knowledge and deceit, right.
16:51Exactly, man.
16:52And they'll make it seem like you're really in control, right.
16:55So, it's just not from God.
16:57There's no reason.
16:58God doesn't tell us to disconnect from here to the good somewhere else, you know.
17:02There's nothing like that, man.
17:03Man, then it's possible.
17:05Even these things.
17:06Whoever is messing with it.
17:07Man, it is possible.
17:09And I'll tell you, my own brother has had several experiences like that.
17:12Really?
17:13Yeah.
17:13With astral projection, why would I doubt him, man?
17:16He used to tell you things.
17:17No, then.
17:18Just recently.
17:20So, it's possible.
17:22Now, I gave my opinion based on the Bible.
17:25I said, look, the Bible doesn't tell us to open those doors, you know.
17:28So, I advise against seeking that.
17:30But actually, he doesn't seek it, you know.
17:32When he's sometimes very tired, there's a whole issue with frequency.
17:34Yeah.
17:35Some people have that knack, man.
17:37Don't ask who, you know.
17:39So, some people didn't want it.
17:41Some people never looked for it.
17:42And yet, they have the gift of vision, man.
17:44I get it.
17:45They see things, you know.
17:46There's a lady who works at my place.
17:48And her daughter has this.
17:49She sees them.
17:50She sees them, man.
17:51She sees angels.
17:52She sees demons.
17:53Damn.
17:53You know what I mean?
17:55She never looked for this.
17:56Never.
17:56It's something about her childhood she told me.
17:58He's a godly woman.
17:59I've never seen someone as devoted to God as she is.
18:03And she's too young.
18:04Must be 17, 18 years old.
18:06When she was a little kid, I don't know, a relative of hers was in the hospital on the
18:11verge of death.
18:12And she just vanished, man.
18:13And everyone was looking for her.
18:14She lived out in the countryside.
18:16Right.
18:16Everyone was searching and all.
18:19After hours, he showed up in the room.
18:22I was like, dude, what are you doing here?
18:24Where were you?
18:24Where were you?
18:25I went to see grandpa.
18:26I think it was a grandpa or an uncle.
18:28What do you mean?
18:29Went to see grandpa.
18:30I saw him there.
18:31And he's at the hospital.
18:32And he's doing pretty well.
18:33Then she told me the details, man.
18:34About the hospital, everything.
18:36Everything.
18:37She confirmed it, man.
18:38That's really it, you know.
18:39She was supernaturally transported.
18:41The Bible talks about this.
18:42Several times, Jesus was in the middle of a crowd.
18:45They wanted to stone him.
18:46Throw him off a cliff.
18:47And the Bible says he simply walked away through the midst of them all.
18:52It's like, there's no explanation, but Jesus became invisible right there.
18:55You get it?
18:58He walked right through the crowd that wanted to stone him.
19:01That was grabbing him, wanted to kill him.
19:05The Bible talks about Philip, right?
19:06Philip the evangelist.
19:07He was preaching.
19:08And many signs and wonders were happening in his ministry.
19:10But then the Holy Spirit took him into the desert.
19:13He suddenly vanished, man.
19:16He appeared in the desert.
19:17And there was a guy in a chariot, right?
19:20And he was reading the book of Isaiah.
19:22So he preached to him and said, do you know what Isaiah is talking about?
19:25He said, no.
19:26How can I know unless someone teaches me?
19:27Then he preached about Jesus.
19:29And the guy was baptized right there.
19:31That was the reason I got baptized.
19:32It was through that passage.
19:34Really?
19:35I was going to this little church, you know?
19:37Simple.
19:37And the church pastor, since there were two churches like that, used to preach at the other one.
19:43He met me and said, man, do you remember that passage about the young man who was baptized?
19:49And then he asked, what prevents me from being baptized?
19:53Right?
19:54The guy who heard the explanation of the Bible, right?
19:56And then Philip said, nothing prevents you.
19:58He said, then I want to be baptized.
19:59And right there, he was already baptized.
20:01In the water that was there, right?
20:02Then the pastor said, I'm asking you here, what prevents you from being baptized?
20:07Man, I thought, I said, man, I already go to church.
20:10I've already been born again.
20:11I'm following God's ways.
20:13Good question, man.
20:14Nothing's stopping me.
20:15He goes, let's baptize you tomorrow then.
20:16Man.
20:17Pastor, there are a few things.
20:18I didn't want to interrupt you, but I'm going to ask a few questions about what you said.
20:21First, about the gift of tongues, right?
20:24I still remember to this day, though I probably shouldn't address you casually like that, right?
20:28You can even call me, Juninho, you know?
20:31Yeah, I also remember to this day, like you said, man, the day I prayed in tongues for the first
20:35time.
20:36It's something that, man, it just sticks with me.
20:38It's setting stone.
20:38Unforgettable.
20:40And I've already talked to other pastors here, and there's a divide, right?
20:44Some people think the gifts continued after Pentecost, and some people think that's a deception or that it's not quite
20:52like that.
20:53What are your thoughts on this?
20:55Yeah, they believe it sits right there with the apostles.
20:57Apostles.
20:58Yeah, the gift of the tongues.
21:00The gift of prophesying of healing.
21:03Exactly.
21:04What do you think about that?
21:05Working of miracles.
21:05They believe that it ended there, with the apostles, right?
21:08Peter's shadow would heal.
21:12So Paul's clothing, whoever grabbed a little piece of clothing there, was healed.
21:16It was supernatural, right?
21:20Except throughout history, we see that God has been working through these gifts, you know?
21:25There's no reason why the gifts would have ceased, because in the book of Acts, the book of Acts should
21:30actually be the acts of the Holy Spirit, not the acts of the apostles.
21:35Because it continued from that point on, right?
21:38And Paul himself, who came later and was chosen as an apostle afterwards, said, guys, I speak in tongues more
21:45than all of you.
21:48It's just that you're praying the wrong way.
21:49You're praying to show off.
21:50Yeah, there has to be decency.
21:52Decency and order.
21:53In the service, but he spoke of praying in tongues.
21:55He even said, look, tongues are for self-edification.
21:59You need to seek the gift of prophecy, because it edifies the whole church.
22:06So, there is no reason to think that it ended there.
22:09And another thing, my experience, I have my own experience.
22:12And if you ask the guests here, many had the same experience.
22:17Experience.
22:17But why do you think people feel otherwise?
22:20Simply because they don't believe it.
22:22No, because the apostles, the apostles there at Pentecost, right?
22:25Actually, those tongues were different that they've already talked about here, right?
22:29Lamarchin spoke about that, didn't he?
22:32That there were tongues of each spoke in their native language, right?
22:36But when they left there, they prayed for people.
22:39And people started praying in tongues, you know?
22:41So, that didn't just stay there.
22:43And it continued, right?
22:46So, it's mostly because they don't believe it.
22:49In fact, a really close friend of mine at the time,
22:51when I told him that I wanted to seek this gift,
22:54he didn't believe it.
22:57And when I received the gift of tongues,
22:59the first thing I did, man, was go meet up with him and pray in front of him.
23:02He didn't believe that you would get it,
23:03or he didn't believe in the gift of tongues.
23:06He didn't believe in the gift of tongues.
23:08Seized.
23:09I see.
23:09Man, the first thing I did was go there and say,
23:12look, I'm going to pray right here so you can see.
23:15Because when God gives you a gift, it's irrevocable.
23:17The Bible says the gifts are irrevocable.
23:20Really?
23:20Yes.
23:20You don't lose the gift?
23:22You don't lose it.
23:23It just fades, of course.
23:24If I don't seek God, it will fade.
23:26How many people received it and haven't even prayed in tongues for a long time?
23:30Because they don't have the desire.
23:32They didn't develop it, you know?
23:35So, you can pray.
23:35Try to describe it.
23:37Describe for people, what does it feel like to pray in tongues and what is it actually for, right?
23:43How was that?
23:45So, what blocks you the most from experiencing something from God is your mind.
23:50Your mind blocks you.
23:52That whole thing of, no, that doesn't exist.
23:54Cool.
23:54You're rational, man.
23:55You get it?
23:56Imagine.
23:57Imagine seeing an angel right in front of you.
24:00The first thing you'll think is, I'm not.
24:03It's all in my head.
24:04I'm hallucinating.
24:05In fact, there's a video that's been going viral on the internet of what an angel actually looks like.
24:11I saw it.
24:12Man, wow.
24:12A bunch of, with so many damn wings, right?
24:18So, you see something like this, you won't believe it.
24:20Now, tongues empower you, man.
24:24It edifies you.
24:25You speak to God.
24:26You don't speak to men.
24:27You don't speak.
24:27It's as if you're speaking directly to God.
24:29Especially since many times we don't know how to pray as we ought.
24:33The Bible...
24:33But would it be the language of angels or not?
24:35Everything leads us to believe that they are the language of angels.
24:38When Paul mentions it, right?
24:39It's in 1 Corinthians 13.
24:41Though I speak with the tongues of angels, everything indicates that's what it is.
24:44So, it's about turning off the rational part.
24:47It's because when you pray like this, the Bible says, your mind is unfruitful.
24:51You don't understand what you're saying.
24:52That's why Paul says, when you pray in tongues, ask God to give you the gift of interpretation.
24:58So, you can understand what is being said.
25:00But even if you don't understand, it edifies you.
25:04When I had this experience, let me give you an example.
25:06When I had this experience with the angel and we went back to our city.
25:11When it was time for the service, everyone already knew what had happened.
25:14Because the powerful experience hadn't happened just to me.
25:18And the pastor wanted me to share my testimony at the front of the church.
25:22I thought, man, should I speak?
25:24Will people think it's all in my head and stuff?
25:26I went to the back to pray with the folks.
25:28When we started praying, man, we spontaneously began speaking in tongues.
25:33That brought me such great peace.
25:35And it was like, I already knew what I was going to say.
25:38I get it.
25:38So, he brought me a lot of discernment right there, you know.
25:42And then you just don't understand it.
25:44But often you feel like, whoa, it seems like the Holy Spirit is doing something like this.
25:49You know?
25:50There have been times I was praying with someone.
25:52I start praying in tongues.
25:53And all these thoughts come to me.
25:54Like, this person is going through this or that.
25:56And then I go ahead and say it.
25:59Right?
26:00Then at the end, I even say, look, if this isn't from God, just dismiss it.
26:03Okay.
26:04But I think, wow, I really was.
26:06It's as if you feel the tongue, like you had no control over your tongue.
26:13The Bible says that the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet.
26:18What do you mean?
26:19In other words, the prophet is in control.
26:22The person is in control.
26:24You know?
26:24It's not like that thing where I was possessed and now I can't control myself.
26:28The Holy Spirit doesn't do that.
26:29You know?
26:30If you need to stop, you stop.
26:32Right?
26:32Everything God does makes you more super-minded.
26:35More like conscious.
26:37More light comes in.
26:38He's not going to make you black out and do things you didn't even realize you did.
26:42You know?
26:43That's what happens when someone is possessed, demonized.
26:46Does that.
26:47Not God.
26:49So the person starts speaking and speaking.
26:51And there are people who pray in tongues for hours.
26:56There's a ministry that I really like and I'm very edified by.
26:59A worship ministry called Ovir Ikrir.
27:02It's a ministry really focused on that.
27:04You know?
27:05Really?
27:05There are people who are really focused on the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
27:09So I see that it was extremely important in my life.
27:12Especially when I had that experience with the angel.
27:17So that made it possible for me to have access to more things that I didn't have before.
27:21You know?
27:23Spiritually speaking.
27:24Does everyone have access to the gift of tongues?
27:26Or is it just for some people?
27:28Not everyone is going to pray.
27:29You see?
27:30Right.
27:31Well, it says, look, some prophesy.
27:32Others.
27:33So a person shouldn't be sad about not being able to.
27:36No, it doesn't make you holier.
27:37No, it changes nothing in their regard.
27:39You're not more special because of it.
27:43So for a long time, I didn't pray.
27:45And people even used to say, wow, you don't pray in tongues, man?
27:48And you're so on fire, right?
27:49Imagine when it happens.
27:51And really, it's being clothed with power, right?
27:54That the Holy Spirit gives.
27:56It depends on the person seeking it.
27:58I see.
27:59I'll give you an example.
28:00I was at camp and I was shitting, right?
28:02How about this experience?
28:04A girl who was having dinner with us, I said, man, I had such a strong desire to pray in
28:08tongues.
28:08And I asked her, have you ever sought it?
28:11Have you ever prayed for it?
28:12Oh, no.
28:12I've never asked God for it.
28:14It's like someone who wants to win the lottery, but doesn't buy a ticket.
28:18Exactly.
28:18I said, the Bible says you do not have because you do not ask.
28:22Ask today.
28:22So I said, all right, then I'll ask.
28:25Then we went to take a shower and everyone went to their rooms to shower.
28:28And then there was a campfire service that night.
28:32When the service started, man, during worship, this girl started stomping her feet and started
28:37jumping on the chair and all.
28:39So people held her.
28:41I didn't even imagine it, but it was the same girl.
28:43The girl started praying in tongues, man.
28:46Ask.
28:46Man, that same night.
28:48So maybe she, you think it's going to take a while, right?
28:50Yeah, it's going to happen.
28:52Try hard.
28:52Send a question here asking whether the Antichrist is a normal person like us.
28:58Or if he's a being specifically chosen for this.
29:03Whether he's a human being or he's going to be like an entity.
29:06I don't know.
29:07It's a human being.
29:08Yeah.
29:08From what I understood too.
29:09Yeah.
29:10And we didn't know if he would be like a version of Christ.
29:16Inverted, like an inverted thing.
29:18Sort of imitating Christ, you know?
29:20The incarnation of evil like that.
29:22Yeah.
29:22Like I said, the devil mimics the things of God.
29:25Yeah.
29:25And there is the satanic trinity.
29:27There is the trinity of God.
29:28Right.
29:29The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
29:31Holy Spirit.
29:32And there is also the satanic trinity, which is what?
29:36That there's the Antichrist, the false prophet, and there's Satan.
29:42I thought it was KLB.
29:44Remember KLB?
29:45The satanic trinity.
29:46Then I started singing.
29:47I sang fucking awful.
29:49And what happens?
29:51Satan is the opposite of God.
29:53Right.
29:54The Antichrist.
29:55The opposite of the Messiah, of Jesus.
29:57He will become as if he were the Messiah.
30:00Yeah, like the second coming.
30:03Yeah.
30:03And the false prophet, the opposite of the Holy Spirit, because the false prophet will point to the Antichrist.
30:09And Jesus said, when the Holy Spirit comes, he will reveal who I am.
30:13He will point to me.
30:15You know?
30:15I got it.
30:16The Holy Spirit will always lead you to Jesus.
30:18You know?
30:19Got it.
30:19And then, going back to the question, we don't know if he'll be conscious since childhood.
30:25Which is, he's the guy.
30:26Yeah, I know.
30:27There's no way to know.
30:28If he'll be fully aware of what he's doing, but definitely afterwards.
30:31Right?
30:32Yeah.
30:32Yeah, when it's already advanced, right?
30:34But it could be that he starts out thinking it's his own doing.
30:38That it's his gift.
30:39Because the Bible says he's going to deceive the nations.
30:41And he'll be a charismatic person.
30:44You look at the guy and you won't see the devil there.
30:46You get it?
30:46That's what you think.
30:47Otherwise, it'd be too easy.
30:49Those of us who know the word and the signs.
30:52Wait, I mean, he has everything it takes to be the Antichrist.
30:56He's trying to unite the nations.
30:59You know?
31:00That spiritist idea that the dead can contact us.
31:04You have a different understanding of it.
31:06Because back then, I believe you would have thought it was a spirit.
31:10And the church says it is one.
31:12What is the understanding?
31:13Does the Bible speak about this?
31:15It does.
31:15It does?
31:16It does.
31:17When Jesus told the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.
31:20Okay.
31:20Yeah, Lazarus was a beggar who used to sit there begging for alms.
31:25And then both of them died, right?
31:27And the rich man went to hell while Lazarus went to heaven.
31:30To Abraham's bosom, which is heaven.
31:33Got it?
31:35When he was up in heaven, the rich man, who was in hell, just wanted to wet the tip of
31:40his tongue because things were boiling hot down there.
31:45And then he sent, he told the angel, he said, look, send him over to wet my mouth.
31:50Even then, the guy didn't repent.
31:51Just like that.
31:53I know.
31:53He didn't set his pride aside.
31:55And then he said, no, I can't do that.
31:56And he went like, no, then let me go back.
31:58I want to tell my brothers that I came here so they won't end up here.
32:01Go back to earth.
32:03Go back to earth.
32:04To the living.
32:06Back to earth.
32:06And then he told me the following.
32:08Look, there is a chasm between life and death.
32:12Those who want to cross from one side to the other cannot.
32:15It is there in that parable.
32:18And he said, even if you were to rise from the dead and come back, they still wouldn't
32:22believe.
32:22Because today Jesus was talking about himself, you see.
32:25And he said, back on earth, they have the law and they have the prophets.
32:30Jesus was still in the time of the law.
32:32If they're going to believe, they will believe the scriptures.
32:34You get it?
32:36But Jesus made it very clear right there.
32:38There's no way.
32:39There's a chasm.
32:40You get it?
32:41But there is something we see that some people really do access this spiritual realm.
32:47They speak with something.
32:49Yes.
32:49There are the images that you saw, including, right, of materialization stuff and all that.
32:55What are these things then?
32:58According to the Bible, they are demos.
33:00As I said, Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
33:04If you wanted to materialize as a person, as a loved one of yours, he does that.
33:09You see?
33:10Like, he has a lot and he'll say, he writes a letter with that same handwriting.
33:16Persons.
33:17These are called familiar spirits.
33:18I even recorded a video with Lamarchine about it, yeah?
33:21There's a version in the Old Testament that speaks, that uses this word, familiar spirits.
33:26If I'm not mistaken, in the book of Deuteronomy.
33:29What are they?
33:29They are demons.
33:31They follow families around.
33:32Got it?
33:32Oh, it goes real.
33:32And it wants to perpetuate the sin.
33:35So, a father who was an alcoholic, sometimes was already an alcoholic because his father drank.
33:39And the son has a tendency toward that.
33:41Because the devil will want to lead him into the same sin, you know?
33:45That he feeds on it.
33:46On sin or on that addiction?
33:49No.
33:50If it feeds on it, I don't know how, but it wants to imprison.
33:53To imprison.
33:54They are organized just like the angels of God.
33:56So, they want to imprison, right?
33:58That family curse.
34:02So, what happens?
34:04To seduce, to deceive, it uses every possible way.
34:08I see.
34:09You see?
34:09Even regarding the Antichrist, the Bible says he will use all forms of deceit.
34:13So, it'll be something where we look at the guy and think...
34:15It's a miracle.
34:16It's a miracle.
34:17I'll give you an example.
34:19Spiritual surgery.
34:20Yeah, yeah.
34:20I've seen it.
34:22And there were even testimonies from that guy who was sued, right?
34:25The medium.
34:26I know.
34:27Yeah.
34:27John of God was on Netflix.
34:29It's on Netflix, right?
34:30Is this the one?
34:31Is it?
34:33Well, the medium is John of God.
34:35Yeah, John of God.
34:36And I thought, I'm going to watch it, man.
34:39Because I really need to be sure of what I preach.
34:43Right.
34:44I see.
34:44And also to have, could there be a cure?
34:47Let's look at it that way.
34:48I always like to look at things neutrally, without my own bias, you know, without prejudice.
34:54And really, man, what he did there were miracles.
34:57Now, can't the devil perform miracles too?
34:59So, now I ask you something.
35:00Do you think it's from God for someone to shove a pair of scissors up your nose, like this?
35:05Look.
35:06And hit it with a hammer.
35:07Man, although several people have already said he might be a charlatan, right?
35:12That there's no...
35:13No.
35:14Was it really something weird?
35:16It happens.
35:17Really?
35:17No.
35:18All of that isn't just an act.
35:19It isn't?
35:20No.
35:20Are you crazy?
35:21Relax.
35:21Huh?
35:22A charlatan?
35:22The guy is going to kill the person.
35:24Sometimes the guy has a different nose.
35:26I don't know.
35:27Right?
35:28What happens?
35:31There, according to the Bible, not even according to my opinion, no, that is demonic action.
35:36It's a diluting influence, according to the Bible.
35:39What happens?
35:39He performs miracles.
35:43In the time of Moses, God turned his staff into a serpent.
35:48Yeah.
35:49The other wise men did it too, you know?
35:52So, they have power.
35:53But Moses' staff, Moses' snake, swallowed their snakes.
35:57God's power is much greater.
35:58So, what happens?
36:00He heals right there.
36:02But it's like I said at the beginning of the podcast.
36:04He gives with one hand and takes with the other.
36:06Soon enough, another prawn comes along, man.
36:08The person gets stuck in that, believing it.
36:10And that keeps them from getting there.
36:12The enemy's sole purpose is to blind the person's understanding of the gospel.
36:17About what Jesus did on the cross.
36:19You know, the work of salvation.
36:21Get it?
36:22That we can be saved through him.
36:25Forgiven.
36:25And then...
36:28I can't see that this is from God, you know?
36:31First, because I don't feel at peace.
36:32Another thing, obviously, the person is desperate.
36:37You know, we're not here to criticize religion.
36:39We're here to present what the Bible teaches.
36:43The enemy preys on your exact vulnerability, you know?
36:47And he acts.
36:47And then you check afterwards.
36:49With x-rays and everything.
36:50And a miracle really did happen there.
36:53No.
36:55We don't know the extent of Satan's power.
36:57Because he was an angel of God.
37:01Imagine how much power he has, you know?
37:04So...
37:04Yeah.
37:06We can't underestimate it, you know?
37:08The kingdom of darkness is also very powerful.
37:10It's just not more powerful than God, right?
37:13I get it.
37:14Perizão sent in an interesting question.
37:17Pastor, do you believe in aliens?
37:20Yes.
37:21Is there life beyond Earth?
37:24And would those lives be under God as well?
37:27Does each have a God?
37:30Man, man.
37:31Man, I believe that it doesn't exist.
37:33Is it really only here on Earth?
37:36No.
37:36What I believe is that they are demons.
37:38Really?
37:39I repeat the same thing, you know?
37:41These apparitions...
37:42Look, I don't doubt that there are these apparitions.
37:44My own dad has already.
37:46Is that so?
37:47Seen a flying saucer.
37:48When he was a kid, my dad doesn't need to lie.
37:50Back in your town, though.
37:51Your town.
37:52No.
37:52In the town he lived in.
37:54Carmo do Rio Claro.
37:55And not just him, man.
37:57But my uncle has seen lights in the sky.
37:59And they're either angels or demons.
38:00We always tend to demonize them, right?
38:03No.
38:04If it's an heir, it's a demon.
38:05It's evil.
38:07Maybe it's an angel of God?
38:09I don't know.
38:10All I know is that we're surrounded by...
38:13Yeah, the spiritual world, you know?
38:15Now, everything leads me to believe that God made the Earth to be inhabited.
38:19If it exists, why would God create such a vast universe if he wasn't going to be inhabited?
38:26I don't know, man.
38:27God does everything for his glory.
38:29He is God, you know?
38:30And think with me.
38:31Does it mean that there is also another plane of salvation for them over there?
38:35That's asking too much, you know?
38:37The Bible doesn't get into those details.
38:39And what I know is this.
38:41Everything was designed for us to live on this Earth.
38:45That shows the lengths they want to go to, right?
38:47Trying to live on other planets.
38:50And actually, there is.
38:52I started looking into the flat Earth theory.
38:54Don't ask me about flat Earth.
38:56I spent months obsessing over that stuff, man.
38:58Crazy.
38:59Just watching videos, trying to understand it, you know?
39:00How those guys' heads work.
39:03Yeah, so according to flat Earthers, other planets don't even exist, you know?
39:07Yeah, it's all in like...
39:08They want to take us to Mars.
39:10No.
39:10They want to take us to the desert when we don't even know this entire planet yet.
39:14Yeah.
39:14And I was like, look at how things are.
39:16Yeah.
39:16We've been used to it since childhood.
39:18Yeah.
39:19Are they trying to take us to the desert and say it's Mars or something?
39:22Man, I believe there are other planets.
39:24That's my personal opinion, you know?
39:25But that there's no life.
39:27And from what I've seen, yeah, I believe there's no other life.
39:30You know?
39:31Nah.
39:32There is even...
39:33I even made a video about Project Bluebeam.
39:35It's a conspiracy theory, right?
39:37Bluebeam.
39:38What is that?
39:40A project where they want to project images into the sky, right?
39:43Images that will deceive even the elect.
39:46Like, they could project onto the sky, for example, Jesus returning.
39:50I see.
39:50Except it's not Jesus returning, you get it?
39:52It's a projected image.
39:54Everyone sees what they believe in their own religion.
39:57It's pretty crazy stuff.
39:58At the same time, a lot of things make sense, you know?
40:01I saw that in the Spider-Man movie, right?
40:03The guy who projects the...
40:06Remember?
40:07What was that villain called again?
40:10It's the...
40:10Oh.
40:11Ah, that's fine, but whatever.
40:12Mystery.
40:13Mystery.
40:13Mysterio.
40:14It's Mysterio.
40:15Is this theory meant to deceive Christians?
40:18To deceive.
40:19To deceive.
40:20So, we can't underestimate it.
40:22The enemy can really use any means.
40:24And Martin Luther himself said,
40:26even if...
40:27You see, even if miracles rain down every day,
40:30if it doesn't come from God, you reject it, you know?
40:33Because there are real miracles from the enemy too.
40:36You know?
40:37They're about to deceive.
40:38They'll give it to him...
40:55No.
40:56So, no,
40:56This is in the sea will never really touch a MERky.
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