00:00Mapusapang impeachment naman muna tayo.
00:02Bigatin kanina yung mga nabigay ng kanilang expert opinion sa impeachment court.
00:07Bigatin talaga naman.
00:09Yeah, syempre.
00:09Yung mga tagalang-galang ng mga retired chief justices.
00:12Kabilang dyan, si dating chief justice Larry Davide Jr.,
00:15Artemio Panganiban, Atrey Nato Puno,
00:18at si retired associate justice Adolf Aspuna.
00:21Mga nako-over na natin.
00:22Oo nga, pero di ba, in one building, all of these experts.
00:26It's a perfect opportunity.
00:27So sila po yung Amici Curie.
00:30Tama ba yung pagkakapronounce ko?
00:32Amicus Pag Solo.
00:33Amicus, okay.
00:34Pagmarami, Amici Curie.
00:36O friends of the court na kinonsulta ng senator judges
00:40para sa tanong na,
00:4216 votes nga ba yung kailangan para makonvict ang nililitis sa impeachment?
00:48Here's what we know so far with Ian Cruz.
00:52Mga kapuso, makasaysayan po yung araw na ito
00:55sa pagsala nga ng mga Amici Curie
00:58o yung mga friends of court
00:59ito nga po sa Senado.
01:02At paunahin sa mga paksa na kanilang binigyan po
01:05ng kasagutan yung patungkol nga po
01:09sa voting threshold
01:11na pinag-uusapan kung pwede ba yung ibaba,
01:14ano o hindi.
01:15Dahil nakasulat nga po sa Constitution
01:16na two-thirds ng lahat ng mga miyembro
01:19ng Senado
01:21ang dapat mag-desisyon patungkol dito.
01:24Sa isyong ito,
01:25tatlo sa mga Amici Curie
01:26ang nagsabi
01:27ang constitutional voting threshold
01:29na kailangan
01:30para i-convict
01:31ang isang impeachable official
01:33ay hindi nakapako sa two-thirds
01:35ng kasalukuyang miyembro ng Senado
01:37kundi sa kung sino aktibong
01:39nag-participate sa trial.
01:40Yan ay sinadating Chief Justice Artemio Panganiban,
01:43dating Chief Justice Reynato Puno,
01:45at dating Chief Justice Hilario Davide
01:47na hindi personal nakaharap
01:49sa impeachment court
01:50pero nagpadala ng kanyang posisyon
01:52sa pamagitan ng isang legal memo.
01:54A strict, stand-alone,
01:57literal interpretation
01:59of Article 11, Section 36
02:03may result in absurdities
02:07and may result in injustices
02:12which will defeat
02:14the purpose of the Constitution.
02:17Tangis si dating Associate Justice
02:18Adol Pascuna
02:19ang nagsabi na kailangan
02:21ng two-thirds vote
02:22ng lahat ng mga miyembro ng Senado
02:24kaya kailangan ng voto
02:25ng 16 na Senator Judge
02:27para sa isang conviction.
02:28This is as I said
02:30internal matter
02:32for the Senate
02:33to decide
02:35according to
02:36a rule
02:37it may adopt
02:37on this basis.
02:39Issue ito ngayon
02:40lalot sa kasalukuyang
02:4124 na senador
02:42dalawang nakakulong
02:44isang nakamedical leave
02:45at isa
02:46ang nagtatago.
02:47Kaya tanong din
02:48sa Amici Q. Ray
02:49Pwede raw bang
02:50bumoto
02:50ang mga absent na senador?
02:52Sabi ni Davide
02:53hindi dapat makaboto
02:55ang mga nakakulong
02:56nasa ibang bansa
02:57nasa ospital
02:58o hindi mahagilap.
02:59Tanong naman ni panganiban
03:00makatotohanan
03:01at patosaw ba
03:02na gawin niyan
03:03kung di naman nila
03:03narinig
03:04ang mga testimonya
03:05o nakita
03:06ang mga dokumento.
03:07Para naman kay Puno
03:08hindi kailangan makita
03:10ng isang Senator Judge
03:11ang demeanor
03:12ng isang testigo
03:13para makapagpasya.
03:14Kahaling tulad nito
03:15ang posisyon ni Ascuna
03:16na nagsabing
03:17pwede silang payagang bumoto
03:19basta kaya nilang
03:20magbigay ng impartial judgment.
03:22Sa gitna naman
03:22ng mahabang diskusyon
03:23may paalala
03:25si panganiban
03:25sa mga senador.
03:26What do our people
03:27expect from you?
03:29It's not legalism.
03:31It's not judicial conduct.
03:34It is justice
03:36for our people.
03:38Yan po hinihingin
03:40ng taong bayan
03:40sa inyo.
03:42Ano po ba
03:43ang katotohanan?
03:45Ano po ba
03:45ang sasabihin ninyo
03:46na makapagsasabi
03:49na nagbigay kayo
03:51ng justisya
03:52sa ating bayan?
03:54Kedalawang po kayo,
03:56kedalawang po't apat kayo,
03:57kedalawa lang kayo.
03:59Ang hinahanap po
04:00ng ating bayan
04:02ay justisya
04:04mula sa Senado.
04:06So that's what we know
04:08so far.
04:09Ako po si Ian Cruz
04:10ng GMA News.
04:13Punta naman tayo
04:14sa Sandigan Bayan,
04:15Joseph,
04:15pareho tayong
04:16nandun kanina
04:17although sumeg,
04:18wake up pa ng
04:18payatas,
04:19male dormitory.
04:20Not guilty
04:21ang naging tugon
04:22ni former House Speaker
04:23Martin Romualdez
04:25ng ma-arrange
04:26sa kasong plunder.
04:27Nga nakik,
04:28yung best na ibiahe
04:29sa Sandigan Bayan,
04:30this is the first,
04:31no,
04:31hindi naman nangyayari
04:33yun.
04:33Nangyayari daw yan
04:34noong COVID.
04:35Okay, so
04:36online yung
04:37naging pagsisakdal
04:38sa kanya
04:39and here's what
04:40we know so far
04:40sa aking report.
04:42Andito tayo ngayon
04:43sa BJMP
04:44male dormitory
04:45na detention facility
04:46ng BJMP
04:48kung saan
04:48nakadetene
04:49itong si dating House
04:51Speaker
04:51Martin Romualdez
04:52at katatapos-tapos
04:53lamang
04:54ng kanyang
04:54arraignment
04:55o yung pagsisakdal
04:56para dun sa
04:577.4 billion pesos
05:00na plunder charge
05:02laban sa kanya
05:03na isinampa
05:03ng ombudsman
05:05ngayon.
05:05Bakit tayo nandito?
05:07Kasi may hiling
05:08itong si Romualdez
05:09kahapon
05:09na payagan siya
05:11na magkaroon
05:12ng video conferencing
05:14ng kanyang pagsisakdal.
05:15Pinayagan niya ng court.
05:17Not guilty yung plea
05:18nitong si
05:18former Speaker
05:19Romualdez
05:19dun sa charge.
05:20Yung mga online hearings
05:21hindi naman yan
05:22unusual, no?
05:23Pero ang pagkakaiba
05:24ay pinayagan din
05:26ng Sandikan Bayang
05:273rd Division
05:27particularly
05:28na makita
05:29na masaksihan
05:30ng mga media
05:31yung ginawang
05:33arraignment
05:33dun mismo
05:34sa loob
05:35ng pasilidad.
05:36Sa video nito
05:37makikita si Romualdez
05:39na naka-wheelchair
05:39habang nasa loob
05:40ng silid
05:41kung saan isinagawa
05:42ang video conferencing
05:43kasama niya
05:44ang kanyang mga abugado.
05:45Nakasood si Romualdez
05:46ng dilaw na t-shirt
05:47para sa mga PDL
05:48o Person Deprived of Liberty
05:50pero pinatungan niya ito
05:52ng itim na jacket.
05:53Kasabay ng arraignment
05:54ngayong araw din
05:55na ibinasunan
05:56ng Sandikan Bayang
05:56ng Motion for Reconsideration
05:58para manatili
05:59sa hospital
06:00si Romualdez.
06:01So ganito yung mga PDLs
06:03o yung mga Persons Deprived
06:05of Liberty.
06:07So technically
06:07hindi pa sila preso
06:09kasi under going trial
06:10pa sila
06:11kaya
06:11hindi na tawag natin
06:12sa mga Persons Deprived of Liberty.
06:13Same
06:14with the situation
06:15ni Speaker Romualdez.
06:17So ang independency
06:18of the case
06:18ito matapos
06:19sa case
06:19he is considered
06:20along with them.
06:21you
06:23you
06:24you
06:24you
06:27you
06:28you
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