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00:00Tonight, after years of Feud Rumors.
00:02Did you say things about me to be provocative or did you really just not like me?
00:06For the first time, Oprah and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson.
00:10You don't even drink and you never did drugs.
00:12I am stunned by your whole persona.
00:15But first, nearly three years since her father's death, Oprah visits Paris Jackson.
00:20What would it be like to see Michael Jackson perform for the first time and realize that's your dad?
00:25When you would go out in public, your face would be covered.
00:28What did you think about that then?
00:33For the first ten years of her life, her image was one of the most wanted in the world.
00:39Her father, the most famous man on the planet, music legend Michael Jackson, took extraordinary,
00:46some would even say even peculiar measures, to keep his children's identities shrouded in mystery.
00:54And their private lives away from the prying public.
01:10And for the most part, he succeeded until his death on June 25, 2009.
01:17It was a media circus, and his children, Prince Michael, Blanket, and Paris, were squarely in the middle of it
01:24all.
01:26Details of Michael Jackson's troubling last days emerged, and everyone had something to say.
01:31But it would be then 11-year-old Paris Jackson, who would become her dad's best spokesperson.
01:39Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine.
01:50And I just wanted to say I love him so much.
01:56And I just wanted to say I love him so much.
02:02Now and for the rest of her life, the world will follow her every move.
02:15Thank you for coming.
02:17The last time I met it with the Jacksons, they were mourning the death of their son, their brother, their
02:23uncle,
02:24and for Prince Michael, Blanket, and Paris, their father.
02:28I kind of felt like no one would understand what a good father he was.
02:32Like, he was like, I'd say he was the best cook ever.
02:35A cook? Really?
02:36Yes.
02:37Everyone's all a cook.
02:38Like, they're surprised to hear it.
02:40Yes, I am.
02:41He was just a normal dad.
02:42Except for he was, I'd say, the best dad.
02:44Well, that's part of the reason why I wanted to...
02:45Everyone was nervous.
02:47This was the first time the world would hear from Paris since the funeral.
02:50We were eating Snickers.
02:52I thought she was forthright, articulate, and fun.
02:56Well, Paris Jackson is now 14 years old and looking to create a legacy of her own.
03:02She signed on to star in her first movie role, and People Magazine just voted her one of the world's
03:08most beautiful people.
03:10Paris and her grandmother invited me over to chat about how their lives have changed since Michael's death.
03:16The first major change was quite a shock.
03:20Katherine Jackson moved out of Havenhurst, home to the Jackson family for over 40 years.
03:25yearning for a new beginning.
03:27She settled here with her grandchildren, Paris, Prince, and Blanket, in a new home amongst the beautiful hills of Southern
03:34California.
03:35Hello.
03:37Hi.
03:37Hi, Paris.
03:39Hi.
03:39Hello, Mrs. Jackson.
03:40How are you?
03:42I'm okay.
03:42Good to see you.
03:44Good to see you again.
03:44Good to see you again.
03:46Hello, darling.
03:47You look gorgeous.
03:49Thank you.
03:49Woo!
03:51She grew a lot, didn't she?
03:52I was going to say, you've grown probably three inches since I saw you.
03:56She did.
03:56Thank you.
03:56I think three.
03:58She did.
03:58Yes.
04:00Wow.
04:00I love your new digs.
04:01This is great.
04:02I love this.
04:04It seems sunnier.
04:05It seems brighter.
04:07It seems happier.
04:09Yeah.
04:09Yeah.
04:10Do you like it?
04:10Do you like it better than Havenhurst?
04:13No.
04:17Havenhurst became the Jackson family compound in the early 1970s when Jackson mania was sweeping
04:23the country.
04:24It's where Michael Jackson grew up and where his own children lived after his death.
04:31So why did you want to leave Havenhurst?
04:34Was it a want to leave or?
04:36Well, what happened is I was going to have Havenhurst remodeled and everything.
04:42And, um, I was looking for a place to lease while we were doing this.
04:47And when I saw this place, I just fell in love with it.
04:49Really?
04:50Wow.
04:51It's so open.
04:52It is.
04:52That's why I like it, too.
04:54Yeah.
04:54But you don't like it as much.
04:56I love both houses.
04:58Havenhurst is more at home.
04:59Really?
05:00I'm sure it holds an enormous amount of memories for you.
05:03Oh, my goodness.
05:04I raised my children.
05:05Yeah.
05:06Michael was raised.
05:06Almost too many, right?
05:08Mm-hmm.
05:08Almost too many memories there.
05:09Yes.
05:09And, um, especially memories of Michael.
05:13It's good, but I'd be crying all the time.
05:16Really?
05:16Yes.
05:17You know, when we spoke last, you had said that you, when you think about him, sometimes
05:22they're sad and sometimes they're smiles.
05:24Mm-hmm.
05:25Yeah.
05:25As time passes, are there more smiles or does it depend?
05:30Well, time does help.
05:34Mm-hmm.
05:34It does help.
05:35But when it comes to a child or parents that you lose.
05:39Yes.
05:40You can never get used to them go.
05:43Yeah.
05:43And that's how I feel.
05:45You never get over it.
05:46You never.
05:47And I know when it's a child, you can't.
05:49Right.
05:50And anything can just, I'm sure, set it off, right?
05:53Yes.
05:54Mm-hmm.
05:54Like your producer was talking to me this morning and when he was asking me questions
05:59about Michael, I just broke down.
06:01Just broke down still.
06:03Oh, I'm so sorry.
06:04It's still so painful.
06:06I know it is.
06:06Do you know what?
06:07It's interesting.
06:07I was, when I was at Whitney's funeral and afterwards I spoke to Sissy, Mrs. Houston,
06:14and she said that she'd heard from you during that time.
06:18Yes, I told.
06:19I'm sure that Whitney's death just brings it all back, did it?
06:23It did.
06:24Yes.
06:24It really did.
06:25Mm-hmm.
06:25And I just, I felt so bad for her mother, you know.
06:30Because mothers aren't supposed to bury their children.
06:32That's true.
06:32That's true.
06:34Yeah.
06:38Shortly after her son's death in 2009, Mrs. Jackson was awarded permanent custody of Michael's
06:44three children.
06:46She is 82 years old.
06:49How is it raising grandchildren, two teenagers, living in the house all the time?
06:56I'm sure they're wonderful children, but still two teenagers and a 10-year-old.
07:02How is that for you?
07:03I'm glad they're here.
07:04And, you know, sometimes when Michael first passed, I always said, I can't believe he's
07:09gone.
07:09But I look over at his children and said, that was a proof, you know.
07:13And then I start to cry.
07:15I'm sorry.
07:16Oh, it's all right.
07:17It's all right.
07:18It's all right.
07:19It's all right.
07:20But they're sweet reminders.
07:22Oh, yes.
07:23Very good reminders.
07:24Sweet reminders.
07:25I love them so much.
07:26Yes.
07:26I want them to be happy.
07:28That's just...
07:29Hmm.
07:32So, since I was here, as I was coming in, I was saying, it looks like Paris has grown
07:36at least three inches.
07:38I mean, you are here.
07:40I'm not kidding.
07:40You are here.
07:41You've grown in so many ways.
07:44And are you proud of the young woman she's becoming?
07:48Yes, I am.
07:49Very proud.
07:50Mm-hmm.
07:51Very proud.
07:52Were you excited to see her go into acting?
07:54Or would you rather her not do the showbiz thing?
07:57Well, you know what?
07:58I gave it a lot of thought.
08:11Mm-hmm.
08:12Well, it's wonderful to be able to see you again.
08:14Thank you.
08:15It's so nice to see you, too.
08:16Thank you.
08:16Every day, I hope that your heart heals a little more.
08:19It does.
08:20Mm-hmm.
08:21We're going to go talk to your granddaughter now.
08:23Okay.
08:24About her new future career.
08:26Right?
08:27Yeah.
08:27All right.
08:28Thank you again, Mrs. Jackson.
08:29I'll see you afterwards.
08:30All right?
08:30Okay.
08:31All right.
08:33Coming up, it's been three years since her famous father passed away.
08:37What high school life is like for Paris.
08:40People have tried to bully you?
08:42And do you remember when you would go out in public, like your face would be covered
08:47and you would be, like, secluded from the public?
08:59Good.
09:01Tell me what your wishes are for your birthday.
09:03What would you like to see happen?
09:06Um, I'd like to...
09:07For your life.
09:08What do you want?
09:09I'd do what you do.
09:11What do I do?
09:12You dance in the sink.
09:14That's what you want to do?
09:16Really?
09:22We're on the couch?
09:23Yeah.
09:24Yeah.
09:31I like this house.
09:34I was thinking, this feels more open.
09:37You can go outside without paparazzi shooting you, right?
09:40Yeah.
09:41Yeah?
09:41Do you still have to have security everywhere you go all the time?
09:45Unfortunately, yes.
09:46Unfortunately, yes.
09:48Makes it hard to get yourself in trouble, doesn't it?
09:50Yeah.
09:52So, the last time we spoke, you were just getting ready to go into private school, I think.
09:58And you were being homeschooled before.
10:02And so, what's being in private school like for you versus being homeschooled?
10:07It's more normal.
10:10It's more fun.
10:11Yeah, the social life has gotten better.
10:14I mean, there's drama, but I try to stay away from that.
10:18Yeah.
10:18I don't know what kind of drama happens in the eighth grade now.
10:22Girls.
10:22Girls.
10:23Hmm.
10:24Girls.
10:25Yeah.
10:26Has anybody tried to bully you?
10:28People have tried, but it doesn't always work.
10:31People have tried to bully you?
10:33Yeah.
10:33Really?
10:35Really.
10:35How so?
10:37Well, at school.
10:38Mm-hmm.
10:39And some people try to cyber-bully me.
10:42Mm-hmm.
10:42They try to get to me with words, but that doesn't really work.
10:46That doesn't really work for you?
10:47No.
10:47Yeah.
10:48I would think, well, this is a surprise to me, because I would think everybody wanted to be your friend.
10:53I would think everybody wanted to, would want to try to, you know...
10:57A lot of people don't like me.
10:59Okay, so why do a lot of people not like you?
11:01I can't imagine.
11:02I don't know.
11:03Well, tell me what you think it is.
11:05I know you're smart.
11:07I can tell.
11:07I can tell.
11:09I don't know what it is.
11:12You think they're jealous?
11:14Maybe.
11:15I don't know.
11:15Mm-hmm.
11:17Do you sense people trying to use you?
11:22If I feel someone's being fake to me, I will just, like, push away.
11:26Because there are kids at my school that talk so bad behind my back, and they don't think that I
11:31can hear them.
11:32A lot of times I can hear them.
11:33A lot of times my friends tell me what they say.
11:35Mm-hmm.
11:36And I'm like, okay, cool.
11:38So, are you allowed to date yet?
11:40No.
11:41Not allowed to date.
11:42Yeah.
11:43Are you allowed to date in groups?
11:46Yes.
11:46Like, could you actually go to a mall with your friends?
11:51Yeah.
11:52You could.
11:52But security would have to be somewhere.
11:54Yeah.
11:55Yeah.
11:55How do your other friends feel about that?
11:57I think it's kind of creepy, but some of them don't really care.
12:00Do you remember when you were little, little younger, and when you would go out in public, like, your face
12:10would be covered and you would be, like, secluded from the public?
12:13What were you, what did you think about that then?
12:16Or did you just think that was?
12:17I was really confused, like, I didn't get why I was wearing a mask, but I understand it now, why
12:25my dad would want our face to be covered.
12:27Like, when we went out without him, we wouldn't be recognized and we could have a normal childhood.
12:31Mm-hmm.
12:32So you would only do that when you were with your dad?
12:34Yeah.
12:35Yeah.
12:35And then, when you weren't with your dad, you could go out and people wouldn't know who you were.
12:40Smart.
12:41Smart.
12:42And so, did you feel that he wanted you to have a, quote, normal life?
12:49Yeah, he did.
12:50Yeah.
12:50Did he, do you feel that he thought that that was possible with him being who he was?
12:55He had his doubts, because I remember he told us that when he was younger, he never, he didn't really
13:00have a childhood.
13:01He told you.
13:01Like, he would always be stuck in the studio singing and while other kids were out playing.
13:06Mm-hmm.
13:07And he wanted us to have that.
13:08So we would, a lot of times, we'd go to Chuck E. Cheese and everything and it was, that was,
13:12that was, Chuck E. Cheese and Toys R Us were our favorite places to go.
13:15Really?
13:15Yeah.
13:16I was wondering how your father would feel about your and your brothers now being in the public eye, being
13:28photographed, being out.
13:31Prince Paris and Blanket Jackson.
13:35Prince Paris says she knows her family is hesitant to see her in the spotlight, but she's dreamed of acting
13:41since she was a little girl.
13:42Just this year, she landed the starring role in her first feature film, London's Bridge and The Three Keys, based
13:49on a young adult fantasy novel.
13:52Acting has always been my passion.
13:54Really?
13:55And I just love it and it's, I think that it's amazing.
13:58Why can't you just believe?
14:00Why do you love it?
14:01I don't know, like, you can be like a totally different person on camera and it's just, it's fun.
14:06Like, you can take on another character.
14:07Mm-hmm.
14:08I think that that's just so awesome.
14:10You know, when we were talking last year, or almost a year and a half ago, one of the things
14:16that you said that really surprised me,
14:18and I think a lot of other people, you were talking about your dad making breakfast for you.
14:22Yeah.
14:22And I thought that was such an interesting memory because the world doesn't really perceive your father as, you know,
14:30a father who's making breakfast.
14:33Yeah.
14:34Can you tell us about your life with him and all the normal things that happen?
14:39Well, like, now I see other kids and their parents, I compare them to my dad.
14:44Our dad was a really normal father, like, when he was with us.
14:48Really?
14:49Yeah, he would, uh, we would get grounded if we did something bad.
14:52He would ground you?
14:53Yeah, he would ground us.
14:54Mm-hmm.
14:54But he can call it grounding.
14:55He would just say, you're on punishment.
14:57You're on punishment.
14:58Yeah, and sometimes we'd be on punishment a lot.
15:00Really?
15:00Yeah.
15:01Mostly me and Blanket because me and Blanket would always fight.
15:04Are you in your brother's clothes?
15:06Um, yes, we are.
15:07Yeah.
15:08Yeah.
15:08Have you gotten closer since your father's death?
15:12Well, I mean, Prince has started to drift off.
15:15I mean, he's a teenager.
15:16He's, like, a teenage boy.
15:17They're going to do that.
15:18They're going to try and separate themselves from the rest.
15:21But me and Blanket have found a lot of things more in common.
15:25Mm-hmm.
15:25More things in common than I thought we did.
15:27Mm-hmm.
15:28So me and him have gotten a lot closer.
15:29How was your day-to-day?
15:32So about what age do you recall that you realized that your dad wasn't like other dads,
15:36meaning he was Michael Jackson and he was famous?
15:41Around nine or ten, I realized, like, wow, he's really big.
15:47Mm-hmm.
15:52Because what would it be like to see Michael Jackson perform for the first time and realize,
15:58that's your dad?
16:00Yeah.
16:00I was like, whoa.
16:01And then I was like, that's my daddy.
16:03That's my daddy.
16:03And no one believed me.
16:04Mm-hmm.
16:05Oh, are you able to listen to his music?
16:07Yeah.
16:07Is it comforting to you?
16:09Yeah.
16:09If you're out someplace and suddenly you hear a song or a song comes out of nowhere and you
16:14weren't prepared for it, does that...
16:16I just start to dance.
16:17You do?
16:18Yeah.
16:18You start to dance.
16:19But it doesn't throw you into a sad place?
16:21No.
16:22Unless it's a really sad song.
16:24Like, um, You Are Not Alone makes me cry.
16:26Mm-hmm.
16:28How do you feel you are doing without him?
16:34How do you feel inside yourself that you're doing?
16:40I don't...
16:41I think I'm doing all right.
16:43I mean, me and my brothers, we miss him with all our hearts, but...
16:47Do the memories come fast and furious still, or some of it's fading and it gets a little
16:53easier to move on?
16:55It never gets easier.
16:57It doesn't?
16:57No.
16:58Um, a lot of times I'm, like, in school and I just, like, remember something and I
17:01smile, because, like, someone does something that reminds me of a memory, and, um, I have
17:08quite a few memories, and I'm, I can't selectively pick them.
17:13They just come on their own.
17:15Mm-hmm.
17:15Mm-hmm.
17:16Always in my heart.
17:19You are not alone.
17:21You are not alone.
17:23I am here with you.
17:25I am here with you.
17:27Though you're far away.
17:30You are far away.
17:32After our chat on the couch, Paris introduced me to someone she says knows all her secrets.
17:37This is my best friend, Mikayla.
17:39Hi, Mikayla.
17:40I'm Oprah.
17:41I'm Mikayla.
17:41It's cute.
17:42Nice to meet you.
17:43She showed me her room where the girls hang out after school, doing homework and all that
17:47teenage girl stuff.
17:48So how are you feeling about her and her new...
17:50Miss Model over here.
17:53How are you feeling about her and her movie career?
17:56I am so proud of her.
17:58I am really, really proud of her.
17:59It was heartwarming to see the touches of memorabilia Paris keeps of her legendary father.
18:07Then, it was lunchtime.
18:09Thank you again, Mrs. Jackson and Paris for a really good day.
18:13We all can't wait to see you shine on the big screen.
18:16We all can't wait to see you shine on the big screen.
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