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‘Little Women’ cast members Saoirse Ronan, Florence Pugh, Laura Dern, Timothée Chalamet, Eliza Scanlen and writer/director Greta Gerwig sit down with CinemaBlend’s Hannah Saulic to talk about why Gerwig changed Jo March’s ending for her movie, Little Women book moments they wish made it into the film, working with Meryl Streep and more.
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00:01This is Meg, Amy, Beth, and Jo.
00:04My girls have a way of getting into mischief.
00:07Ow, Jo!
00:10I'm working on a novel.
00:11Make it spicy.
00:12And if the main character is a girl, make sure she's married by the end.
00:15Excuse me?
00:18Congratulations on this movie.
00:19My God, it's amazing.
00:21Seriously, I love Little Women like every other millennial girl that grew up with it.
00:25So I trust you, obviously, because Lady Bird is fantastic.
00:28But you're always just like, please don't ruin the thing that I love.
00:30Now you'll travel with me to any country.
00:34But one of the things that I really loved, and I was so happy that you addressed,
00:38was obviously Jo's ending.
00:40Yes, yes.
00:40Because that's the biggest thing in my mind where it's just like,
00:42you watch the old movies, you read the book, you're like,
00:44she just spends the literal entire time saying she doesn't want to get married.
00:48Yes.
00:48So I'm kind of curious about your decision to not play it straight
00:52and do this like meta version of it.
00:55Well, like you, I had this feeling of when in the book, Jo says,
01:03and then Jo stopped up her inkstand, didn't write again.
01:06I'm like, what?
01:07And got married and opened the school and had babies.
01:11I was like, no, no, I'm pretending that didn't happen.
01:15And then as I was an adult and I wanted to make this movie and I discovered that Louisa May
01:21Alcott never got married
01:22and she never had kids and that she never wanted Jo to get married and have kids.
01:27She wanted Jo to be, as she said, a literary spinster with books for children.
01:31And I thought, well, maybe there's a way to do that now.
01:37If she couldn't do it then or she felt like she couldn't do it then, maybe we could do it
01:41now.
01:41And it's finding that distance between life and fiction that I find intellectually exciting and also very emotional.
01:53If you decide to end your delightful book with your heroine a spinster, no one will buy it.
01:59It won't be worth printing.
02:02I suppose marriage has always been an economic proposition, even in fiction.
02:06Just end it that way, will you?
02:08Saoirse and Laura, I'm curious to get your guys' opinion on Greta's new ending for Jo,
02:13because obvious reasons you play Jo, but I think that Marmee is very much Jo grown up in a way.
02:18Yeah, I was so excited about it. I love when filmmakers do that anyway.
02:22I love when it's sort of like, hold on a minute, what's happening?
02:26What I really love about it from an audience's perspective is that she's acknowledging that we're there.
02:32She's acknowledging that we're watching what's happening and we know what the real life story is.
02:37And this was our opportunity and Greta's opportunity to give Louisa the ending that she probably would have wanted
02:45and that she wouldn't have changed if, you know, it was 2019.
02:49So it was very, very exciting to get to do that.
02:52And also, watching someone fight for themselves.
02:57I never knew the narrative of her keeping her copyright.
03:02And that the idea of why this is the classic American novel written by a woman,
03:08why she was the one writer who had this staying power is because she fought for herself.
03:14And not in some disingenuous, ambitious way, she was trying to feed her family.
03:20Yeah.
03:21And that's what's so incredible.
03:22Yeah.
03:23To see Greta's longing to make ambition this, like, gorgeous right.
03:30And in Amy's character, too, to, like, allow ambition to be fiery and gorgeous and not like,
03:36oh, you know, the thing we've seen in a lot of films with female characters.
03:41Because ambition in male characters is always, you know, honored.
03:46So that's very cool.
03:47I intend to make my own way in the world.
03:49No one makes their own way.
03:51At least of all, a woman.
03:52You'll need to marry well.
03:54You are not married, Aunt March.
03:55Well, that's because I'm rich.
03:57Meryl Streep, to me, was the perfect Aunt March.
03:59I mean, my god.
04:00Every time she was on screen, I was curious what it was like working with her in filming scenes.
04:04Was she kind of staying in that Aunt March mode in between takes?
04:07Kind of.
04:08It's very powerful, though, being in a room with her.
04:10Anything she gives to you in a scene, you instantly feel like you're safe and you're saved.
04:15And that's really amazing when you work with someone and you feel like you're sharing that moment with them.
04:23And, yeah, I've been in love with her since I was tiny.
04:26So, a mega woman.
04:27I also like...
04:28Sorry.
04:29No, no, no.
04:29I was just going to say, I also like how she is when she's on set.
04:34She's just, you know, obviously she's like Meryl and she's a legend.
04:38But when she comes on set, she's an actor and she doesn't sort of draw attention to herself by any
04:43means.
04:43She's quite a quiet woman.
04:44And, you know, the one scene that I had with her, we blocked it and we rehearsed it.
04:51And then the camera department were going to come in and set it up and light it and everything.
04:55And Meryl just stayed there.
04:57And she didn't get in anyone's way and she didn't want to make it about her.
05:00But she just wanted to be on set and I, what I, what I think is always lovely when you
05:05work with someone who's, who everyone looks up to so much is when you're with them and they just want
05:11to act and they want to work with you.
05:13That is the best thing, so.
05:14She elevated everyone.
05:16Yeah, absolutely.
05:17Yes, there's definitely sometimes an expectation for actors to be like...
05:21Like, but...
05:23Or like, I'm a star.
05:24Yeah, she taught, yeah, she's totally...
05:27A worker.
05:28Yeah, she's a worker.
05:29She's a worker.
05:30She's a worker.
05:30And it's a craft.
05:30Thank you, Aunt Marge.
05:32Oh!
05:32Why?
05:33I should get the money.
05:34Well, I only sold what was my own.
05:36You're one beauty.
05:38Were there any moments from the book that you wanted to include but didn't end up in the final cut?
05:43Like a million things and I could quote them all to you right now.
05:45There's a million lines that I loved that I didn't have space for somehow.
05:49There's like a line that I kept trying to give to Amy but I just didn't have the space because
05:53Amy, who's a total unsung character, has so many amazing lines in the book.
05:58And one of them is The World is Hard on Ambitious Girls, which I was like, that's true still.
06:05And I don't pretend to be wise but I am observant.
06:09And I was like, oh my God.
06:10But there's amazing scenes.
06:11I mean, the development of the relationship between Laurie and Amy was really fun and a lot from the book
06:18that I just thought they were talking about whether or not they were great artists, whether or not they were
06:23going to keep pursuing what they were working on.
06:25They were talking about essentially mutually deciding to grow up, which is a very, it's both like something gained, something
06:33lost.
06:34And I mean, there's like a million things.
06:35I love the book.
06:37I could have made a whole different movie with different scenes.
06:41There's also this great scene where Joe tries to cook to show that she's good at housekeeping and stuff and
06:47she uses salt instead of sugar and then invites everyone over and they just, the food's disgusting.
06:53That's fun.
06:54That would have been really fun to see, especially with Laurie trying to pretend like, oh no, Joe, it's fine.
06:58Or genuinely understanding it to be excellent.
07:01Also, there was an entire subplot with Laurie is like, he buys so many neckties and then, and it's like
07:09his necktie collection is way too big and Joe's like, stop buying neckties.
07:13And he's like, but I love them.
07:14I couldn't help it.
07:15Anyway, lots of stuff like that.
07:17Have you ever considered casting yourself in something that you write and direct?
07:22I have acted in things that I've written, but I have no interest in acting in things I'm directing.
07:27Why?
07:29I think my brain would fracture into a million pieces.
07:32I think it's really hard.
07:34I love directing because I love watching actors do what they do and I love seeing it all and it
07:41would, A, deprive myself of that privilege and B, I think I would go, I would not, I would, you
07:50know, there's a reason Orson Welles became obese.
07:53You go crazy.
07:55You go crazy.
07:56Oh no.
07:56It's true.
07:58Or is it Paul Masson's wine from, no, have you seen that commercial?
08:02No.
08:04Ah, the French champagne.
08:08He's like doing a commercial in his late fifties or sixties.
08:10Oh no, I haven't.
08:11California champagne, you know what I'm talking about?
08:12I recommend it.
08:13I just do think it's a lot on the brain.
08:16I'm amazed at people who can do it.
08:17I was just talking to Olivia Wilde the other night and she's going to direct herself in her next picture,
08:22which I was like, oh my God, you've crossed into territory I will never do.
08:29But maybe if I wrote, if I wrote something then I could get Noah to direct it and then I
08:34could act with Timothy.
08:36What?
08:37I could play your old friend.
08:41You know what, I'm going to, I'll be back.
08:43No.
08:44Women, they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts.
08:49I want to be great or nothing.
08:51And they've got ambition and they've got talent as well as just beauty.
08:55I'm so sick of people saying that love is just all a woman is fit for.
09:00I'm so sick of it.
09:07So who does she marry?
09:12Florence, I have one quick question that I want to slip in because we have a lot of Marvel fans
09:16on our site.
09:17So obviously going from something like Little Women, which you're not really like fighting people, not doing a ton of
09:22action, to Black Widow.
09:24Did you pick that because you just wanted something totally different or are there similarities between Amy and Yelena, for
09:30example?
09:30Oh, I don't know if there are some, I mean they're both stubborn women and, no, I think I love
09:37the script and I love Kate Shortland.
09:39And I think everything that they're trying to do with that film is make it as painful and as real
09:44and as gritty as possible.
09:47And it was exactly like that when we made it and that was a really nice thing to walk into.
09:53And of course I got to be with the Black Widow and watch her work, which was pretty amazing considering
09:59she's been the only female superhero for the past ten years.
10:02We're pretty excited but it isn't big enough for you guys
10:02Wow great thanks!
10:02We guys want to co-therize for Let's Go too
10:02We want to give up this video today.
10:02So let me know, have you guys?
10:03Oh my god good evening, there are some Ouch!
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