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00:00I would not welcome the sort of, you know, the sort of catty drama that ensued with certain
00:09teams because I just don't surround myself with that anymore.
00:16Virtual reality. All right, Rachel, tell us about this partnership with Aflac. You are wearing the
00:22jacket that you literally designed to help people to figure out if they have cancer or not, which is
00:27really important. Wouldn't you guys wear this? Yes, please. 1,000%. Isn't it so cute? Can you see?
00:35Look, it's a full bomber. It's so cute. And I love to, it's like designed with a QR code in
00:40it,
00:40right? Literally. That's so cool. I know. It was actually a really fun process. You know,
00:49Aflac approached me about doing this because they, you know, detection for cancer and screenings
00:56for cancer are something that not enough people honestly know about when they should do it.
01:02And, you know, they wanted to do the first ever of its kind, literal, you know, a garment with,
01:09you know, a QR code embedded in the design. So I really thought about what style could be unisex and
01:17what is something easy that we can all wear. And, you know, it really, if you scan the print,
01:25the checkered print, the QR codes embedded in it, and it will take you, it will take you to the
01:30Aflac site and take you through a screening process, the check for cancer now.com. And it'll
01:36take you through a screening process that will tell you sort of like, you know, based on your age and
01:41your history and all of these things, it'll do a proper assessment and guide you through what you guys
01:46should do. And I would imagine you've been through that process. Have you, have you done the
01:51screenings? Yes. And, and the truth is, I think we know factually, statistically that, you know,
01:57the sooner you detect certain cancers, you're, you know, it can increase your survival rate can
02:03increase like 90%. And I come from a family that's plagued with breast cancer and prostate cancer and
02:08countless friends. One of my best friends that I've lost, it goes on for days, but I don't think that
02:13we know anyone at this point who has not been impacted by cancer in some way. And I think that
02:19part of the, the, the process, I think is that it is a very intimidating process for people and a
02:27lack
02:28of awareness around knowing when you should be screened. And so I think by sort of bringing a
02:34fashion element to it, it sort of just, it just makes it a little bit less, I think, scary, you
02:41know, I also feel less scary and also more accessible because I know for so many things,
02:46like myself, like when it comes to health and everything, I was like, Oh, I can put that on
02:50or like, Oh, I'm so busy. Oh, all these other things are going on. But to have something so easy
02:54to access, to get to the proper next steps is going to save lives, which is very correct.
02:59And then once you do it, you like share that with as many people as you know, and have them
03:04do the
03:04same. And I think that's the sort of hope, you know? Wait, and because you are such a fashion
03:08girly, do you have an archival piece in your life that goes well with Affleck? You know what I mean?
03:14Like with this, with this, uh, jacket, like what? I mean, yes, for sure. I do. I mean, I could
03:20style
03:20this a hundred different ways to Sunday, of course. Um, but it's really cute with jeans and a t-shirt,
03:26like in the campaign, I'm wearing like dark denim jeans and like a white shirt underneath,
03:30but honestly you could wear it with anything really. It's cute with shorts. It's cute with
03:35white pants. It's cute with like, um, a wide leg trouser, a pencil skirt. I mean, but also like,
03:43yes, in my archives, definitely. I have a great like vintage Navy Aliyah that I'm thinking of that
03:50would be so cute under it with heels. Oh, I love that when you started. I love a bomber with
03:55a gown.
03:56Oh, so cute. When you started styling so many years ago, did you always have aspirations to
04:02design? I mean, you've been doing like you've been doing design for years now, but was that kind of
04:06like always on the vision board? The answer is yes, but it was something that I think I kind of
04:14like
04:14feared, but ended up falling into regardless. And when I say feared, it's because I work with some
04:19of the best designers in the world throughout my career. You know, the sort of Marc Jacobs of the world,
04:24the John Galliano's and the Karl Lagerfeld. And I think, you know, when having worked with,
04:30with the masters, it was sort of like, wow, I'm not touching that, you know, but then I ended up
04:36really designing constantly throughout my career and doing custom pieces. And so doing something like
04:43this, I think it was really with Affleck, it was sort of like, okay, what can I design that chic
04:50that can have the design with the QR code that's unisex that we could wear for a long time and
04:56just,
04:56you know, and add these little design elements that make it so cute.
05:00I love that. And also, I love too, that you recently got announced your new position with
05:04What Goes Around Comes Around, which you showed me on Beverly Hills last season, the store, your
05:09obsession with the store. And I love that you're kind of like defining the relationship in a more real
05:13way. Yes, thank you for noticing that. Yes, I've actually worked with the founders from literally
05:20the very beginning, I used to pull from them, not just for myself, but for my clients as a stylist
05:25forever. From the pop stars I worked with, I would pull my vintage for them, and for different
05:32editorials, and then of course, like shopping. And then, yeah, I actually think that we did scenes
05:40there on the Rachel Zoe project, actually. That's how long I've been working with them. But yes,
05:45it's very exciting to just have a larger role with them and really partner with them in their overall
05:52sort of journey because they're just, they're such an extraordinary business, and it's really great to
05:57be a part of it. You were mentioning pulling for pop stars, and one thing I learned about you
06:01recently, Rachel Zoe, is that one of your earliest gigs was styling for Britney for her Tommy Hilfiger
06:07campaign? Well, so that's actually two things combined. So my first ever freelance job was
06:13working on Hit Me Baby One More Time. Oh, wait, no, like, how? What? I'm gonna, everyone has that
06:21same reaction funny enough. Holy crap, Rachel Zoe, like I'm the biggest Britney Spears fan ever. I did
06:25not know this. Wait, can you just like sum up that experience? What was that like? Yeah, it was, I
06:31was
06:31still working in a magazine. I've only had one job in my life that I had a boss, which was,
06:35I worked at a
06:36magazine, like a teen pop magazine called YM, which was like 17. And I worked with a lot of pop
06:45stars and
06:45actors, like Juan Stefani, and you know, blah, blah, blah, it all went on and on. And someone at the
06:53magazine that I was working with did a lot of freelance work at the time, and she couldn't do
06:57this job. And so she asked me if I could cover for her and help her on one of the
07:03days. And so I did.
07:04And that was that. And I worked with Britney after that for a while. And then Backstreet Boys,
07:11Enrique Iglesias, all of them, Jessica Simpson, and Ashley.
07:17Wow. Wait, back to Baby One More Time. I remember there was a rumor that because the budget wasn't
07:23that big, that a lot of the clothing was sourced from Kmart. Is that true?
07:28God, I don't remember. I honestly don't remember that. I honestly don't remember that.
07:36Okay. I was like, I can't imagine Rachel's out in a Kmart, but I would love to see that happen.
07:40I don't, I honestly don't remember. But like, the truth is, we got stuff for, you know, there were so
07:46many extras in these music videos that we were doing at the time, that we would source those from
07:51everywhere, which is also why I ended up buying so much, you know, vintage and stuff a lot. I would
07:56get
07:56like all these vintage t-shirts and things like that. But yeah. I love it. Have you been seeing
08:00Hilary Duff on her tour wearing a different vintage t-shirt every single night? No.
08:05Every night she does a different t-shirt of like an artist she loves or something she loves. And I
08:09don't know how she's got them, but they're so cute. She's so cute. I've known her for years. Yeah,
08:14she's great. We love you. You know, everyone. You know, everyone. Rachel. Oh my God. You know,
08:18my kids always say that because we go places and like, they're like, mom, do you literally know
08:24everyone? And I'm like, no, there are so many people I don't know. But like, you know, I've
08:29had a lot of lives, you know, in different iterations and different, you know, but I think
08:35people, people that really stick, they stick. And, you know, but I did, but Tommy Hilfiger
08:40was the biggest break for me in my career, truthfully, certainly one of them. And certainly
08:45as I went freelance, he gave me the biggest freelance job of my life when I literally like
08:49two days after I made the decision to go freelance at 25 and gave me this massive two week job
08:56on a,
08:57on a big ad campaign. And he changed my life because I just kept getting referred, you know,
09:03for other jobs after that. And I don't think I had a day off for like 15 years. And I
09:08was very lucky,
09:09but I think, you know, when you're freelance, you're so scared to say no, because you know
09:13that someone else will take the job or you, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a different thing,
09:19but I, but I've honestly been that way my whole life. I've never worked for somebody again. So
09:23do you still keep in touch with Tommy? Like, do you run into him?
09:25Yeah, I just saw him. I saw him last week in New York.
09:28Wow. That is so special. I love that.
09:31I love, and I love that. Um, we saw you and all your Beverly Hills ladies all around town in
09:36New York
09:36and now two more people, you know, I don't know if you knew them before Leah Remedy and Tracy Tudor.
09:41That's it. Is it very exciting to have them in the mix?
09:43We, you know, it's been fun. It's been really fun. I'm all about, you know, new and more the better
09:50and, you know, everybody welcome. Yeah. No, obviously you're very close with Dorit Kemsley.
09:56We love Dorit around here. Uh, Tracy has feelings about Dorit and she's made them clear in the past.
10:01How are you sort of managing getting to know Tracy and then also still maintaining your friendship
10:06with Dorit? You know that I can't tell you anything.
10:11We're so excited though. Honestly, I mean, you were mentioning you do know everyone.
10:15You have a lot of famous friends. If you could recruit a famous friend to join Housewives,
10:20who would you give a diamond to?
10:24Ooh. Um, God, it's a good question.
10:33I don't know if I have an answer to you do. That's the thing. You, this is why you do
10:37know
10:37everybody. That's why you can't pick someone. I'm really just thinking about like who that would
10:42really be. Um, Rihanna.
10:49Well, I mean, well, she'll come back on and start yelling at production. We're getting rid of
10:54Amanda Francis because she wanted her back.
10:56She did. I don't know. I don't know about that. Are you, are you, have, are you missing Amanda
11:04Francis at all? I'm not answering anything right now. As a, as a Jersey girl though, I want,
11:10cause I'm from Jersey too. I want to know, are you missing malls? I hate that every mall is closing.
11:14No. You don't miss malls? Or do you? No. I mean, listen, I spent my entire adolescence at the
11:20Short Hills mall, but I haven't been back other than to do an appearance for my collection. I haven't,
11:24I, because I left when my, when I grew up, when I went to college, my parents left Short Hills
11:29and
11:29I haven't been back. Oh my gosh. You have to come. Yeah. Rachel, you were mentioning the Rachel Zoe
11:35project. You've been working with what goes around, comes around since you were filming that show,
11:39which was at this point. Since even before I was filming that show. That show was so formative for
11:44so many people, including us. Like we loved that show so much. And obviously if you were to reboot that
11:49show, it would look very different in 2026 and beyond. But would you ever consider rebooting the
11:54Rachel Zoe project? You know what I've realized? Never say never. And, um, because everything I've
12:02said, I would never do I've done. So I have to not say that anymore. And it would be a
12:08very different
12:09show. Um, the answer is I probably would. Um, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would not welcome the sort
12:23of, you know, the sort of catty drama that ensued with certain teams. Cause I just don't surround
12:32myself with that anymore. Right. You know, obviously I wasn't intending to then, but things happen as
12:38they do, but I can tell you that does not happen now, you know? So. And we know last summer,
12:45you
12:45really were hoping to have a hot girl summer and like, it was to varying degrees of success,
12:49but now it is September. We're curious how hot was the summer? Amazing. Like the hottest. Okay. Ooh,
12:56we love that. Well, it was just, I spent a month in Europe, which was like a mental break that
13:02I
13:02really did need. And I knew I needed it. You know how sometimes you say you never knew you needed.
13:07I
13:07actually knew I needed and really took it. And it was a gift. It was a real gift. I spent
13:12half with
13:13my kids and then half with my friends. And it was really nice to just be, I hadn't had a
13:18break in
13:19about a year and a half and it was really just needed. But then let me tell you the minute
13:24I touched
13:25us soil. I was like, I've not had a day off since. So I'm, um, it's been wild. What vibes
13:33are we
13:33claiming for the fall? I know you're very busy, but if it was a hot girl summer, it's going to
13:37be a
13:38dot, dot, dot. A hard, fast working girl, work hard, play hard, and just enjoy my life to the absolute
13:48fullest. But I think only doing that sort of as the, as the payoff for working as hard as I
13:55do,
13:56you know, I think I'm, I'm someone that really believes in working really hard. I believe in
14:02everything that I do and give it 2000%. And, and as well, you know, I'm a full-time mom to
14:10two teen
14:11boys. So it's, it's really a lot, but it's also like in those moments where I can have that sort
14:19of reprieve. I just try and like, you know, dance with my friends and have fun. I love that. And
14:25I
14:25love that you took time out of your busy schedule to talk to us and for an amazing cause. And
14:29thank
14:29you so much for what you're doing to raise awareness, to help people get educated. You guys go
14:33do it. Go do it. I want to scan your jacket right now. No, you need to do it. You
14:39guys seriously do
14:41it and tell everyone else, you know, to do it. It's so important. No, it really is. And thank you
14:46so much again for using your voice to raise this awareness too, Rachel. We hope to see you. Nice to
14:50meet you guys.
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