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00:30Sa kung ilang senador ba ang pwedeng makasama sa pagbababa ng hatol kay Vice President Sara Duterte,
00:37naging emosyonal si Sen. Judge Camille Villar matapos ang naging pahayag ni Sen. Judge Irwin Tulfo.
00:44The present reality is that some of our members are beyond the coercive power or jurisdiction of the Senate.
00:54One is a medical leave abroad with no definite return date.
01:01Another is in hiding.
01:04Two others are under the custody of the Sandigan Bayan or the Bureau of Jail Management.
01:09Siguro, noong panahon po, noong ginagawa ang konstitusyon, ang mga kaso po ng mga senador noon,
01:18either subversion, sedition, hindi po plunder, hindi po pagnanakaw.
01:25And as the youngest member of this August body, can we stop it with these attacks on each other?
01:37Konting respeto naman.
01:39Kasi lahat naman po, nang wala dito, hindi naman po sila napatunayan na may sala.
01:50Hindi po sila plunderer, hindi po sila magnanakaw, hindi po sila napatunayan na ganon.
01:59So huwag naman tayo tumayo dyan at maglo-blow ng ganon.
02:04Huwag humingi ng paumanhin.
02:06Ngunit, gunawin ko lamang po, yun yung presiding officer, yun yung Pangulo.
02:11Wala po akong sinabing convicted na plunderer ang ilang kasamahan natin.
02:19Ang sinabi ko po ay charge with.
02:23Sinubukan naman ni Senator Judge Alan Peter Cayetano na pigilan ang butuhan.
02:27Ayon sa kanya, imbis na hindi isama ang ilan-ilang kapwa, Senator Judge,
02:31mas maganda raw kung pagsisikapang makadalo sila kesa raw magkaroon ng mistrial.
02:37I think the Senate cannot order the Sandigan Bayan to produce the senators here,
02:43but I think the impeachment court can.
02:45I think if we're going to give full constitutional,
02:49if we're going to give full meaning to our constitution, 24 members,
02:54we can compel the Sandigan Bayan.
02:57Do we want to do that? I don't know.
02:59But what I do not want is a mistrial.
03:04Pero natalo ang kanyang musyon.
03:07Ilang minuto bago ang pagboto,
03:09hindi na nakasuot ng robes si na Senator Judges Bongo at Amy Marcos.
03:14Hindi na rin sila pumasok sa loob.
03:17Makikita namang nasa loob pa ng plenaryo
03:19si na Senator Judge Alan Peter at Pia Cayetano
03:22na nakipag-usap pa kay Senate President Sherwin Gatchalian.
03:26Pero lumabas din ang magkapatid at sinabing hindi na sila makikiisa sa butohan
03:31dahil naniniwala raw sila na hindi ang Senate Impeachment Court
03:35ang dapat magresolba sa issue.
03:38Si Senator Judge Robin Padilla,
03:40saglit lang na natili sa loob ng korte para isa-isang kamayan
03:44at tagmano pa sa ilang Senator Judge mula sa mayorya.
03:48Pero umalis na rin siya nang humakyat na sa podium si Gatchalian.
03:52Nung magbobotohan na, hindi na rin nakita si Senator Judge Camille Villar.
03:57Nang magsimula na ang butohan,
04:00All those in favor of the appeal of Senator Judge Irwin Tulfo, say aye.
04:09Those again say nay. Nay.
04:13The ayes have it.
04:16The appeal is one.
04:18Tuluyan ang nabaliktad ng Impeachment Court
04:21ang naunang ruling ni Presiding Officer Jesus Cudero
04:24na ipako sa labing-animang boto para makapag-convict.
04:28Sa ilalim ng saligang batas,
04:31nakasad na kailangan ng two-thirds ng boto ng all members of the Senate
04:35o lahat ng membro ng Senado para makapag-convict.
04:38To determine the two-thirds concurrence required for conviction
04:42under Article 11, Section 3-6 of the Senate,
04:46of the Constitution rather,
04:49the phrase,
04:49all members of the Senate, quote-unquote,
04:52shall refer to those members who, at the time of the vote,
04:56remain legally and factually capable of participating in the proceedings.
05:00Hindi na isasama ang mga Senador na hindi nakakabahagi
05:04sa pagliliti sa oras ng butohan.
05:06The computation shall exclude members who are
05:09number one, detained and or suspended
05:12or otherwise legally restrained from exercising the functions of a Senator,
05:16number two, persons sought by authorities whose whereabouts are unknown,
05:20number three, suffering from a physical or medical incapacity,
05:24number four, beyond the coercive processes of the Senate,
05:27and number five, others similarly situated.
05:31Sa ngayon, apat na Senador ang posibleng hindi makasama.
05:34Ang nagtatagong si Senador Bato de la Rosa,
05:37ang mga nakakulong na si Najingoy Estrada at Rodante Marculeta,
05:41at ang may sakitan nasa abroad na si Senadora Loren Legarda.
05:45Labing tatlong Sen. judge ang bumoto pabor sa mosyon.
05:49Sina Bam Aquino, JV Ejercito, Sherwin Gatchalian, Risa Ontiveros, Panfilo Lacson, Lito Lapid,
05:56Kiko Pangilinan, Tito Soto, Erwin Tulfo, Rafi Tulfo, Joel Villanueva, Mark Villar, at Juan Miguel Zubiri.
06:05Hindi naman pumabor si presiding officer Cheez Escudero.
06:09At bilang pagtutol, hindi na lumahok sa butohan,
06:12sina Sen. Judge Alan Peter Cayetano, Pia Cayetano, Bongo, Amy Marcos, Robin Padilla, at Camille Villar.
06:20Kung dalawang po lamang ang mga Senador na makakalawok sa butohan,
06:24ang two-third nito ay labing apat na boto lamang, ayon kay Escudero.
06:29Mas mababa kumpara sa labing anim na boto kung bibilangin ang lahat ng dalawampu't apat na Senador.
06:35For example, if the denominator is 20, two-thirds is 13, and one-third, or 13.33.
06:45If we round it down to 13, 13 votes would fall short of the constitutionally required two-thirds concurrence, which
06:54is 13.33.
06:56Since a fraction of a vote is impossible, as there is no fraction of a senator, 13.33 must be
07:06rounded up to 14 votes, the next higher whole number.
07:11Paglilinaw ni Escudero, ang ruling na ito ay para lamang sa trial na ito at hindi sasaklaw sa iba pang
07:17impeachment trial.
07:18Ipinunta naman ni Sen. Judge Tito Soto na kung sakaling dumating ang apat na Senador na hindi makakasama bago magbaba
07:27ng hatol sa bise, dapat silang pabutohin.
07:30If Sen. Legarda arrives from abroad, she can vote.
07:37If Sen. De La Rosa decides to appear and takes his oath, she can vote.
07:45Diba?
07:47And if the disandigan bayan allows our two incarcerated colleagues to attend, they can vote.
07:56Ako si Sandra Aguinaldo, ang inyong saksi.
