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00:00here in the philippines we got to chat to a catholic priest one of our team members was like
00:05i would love to ask a catholic priest here what is the way to get to heaven what must i
00:10do to be
00:10saved in this video ryan from needgod.net will talk about an encounter that he allegedly had
00:17with a catholic priest in the philippines now i want you to understand before we get into this
00:22video that i do not trust ryan's characterization of things he's been caught several times
00:28misrepresenting the beliefs of others and has even used fake quotes in the past to try to win
00:33debates but i'm asking you what early fathers you did a video okay let me go if you want to
00:38go out
00:39after the apostolic era you have ambrosator who said god has decreed that a person who believes in
00:44christ can be saved without works you brought up ambrosie aster are you aware that ambrosie aster
00:49is a pseudonymous source are you aware that ambrosie aster it's not an early church father
00:55are you aware of that now the reason why i bring this up is because you could see clearly from
00:59this
01:00debate that he had with william albrecht how dishonest ryan is instead of just acknowledging
01:06that the quotes he had were wrong or fake he resorts to a red herring which is a deflection
01:12or distraction from the question that william asks him but i'm saying i'm early christian sources
01:16and let's let's say to cyril of alexandria when an ungodly man is converted god justified him through
01:23faith alone not on account of good works which he possess not very clear isn't it very clear isn't
01:29it can you and i want to pause for a moment i got seven and a half minutes at least
01:33give me at least
01:34a few more seconds here so this is another fake quote that ryan tried to use in the past to
01:38justify
01:39his fringe understanding of sola fide this demonstrates that he doesn't read the primary
01:44sources and that he just makes things up as he goes along i want to pause for a moment and
01:50give you
01:50a chance to read the whole of that quote can you get that full quote and read it for us
01:53uh
01:54i don't have on hand but i can i will wait for us i'll wait you read the whole thing
01:59all of it in
01:59context saint jerome here yeah it's interesting that whatever is interesting to go to ryan you can go to
02:06romans ryan whatever whatever i don't want to go with the bible all ryan had to do here is acknowledge
02:11that he was wrong and the quotes that he used were fake but instead of doing that he does the
02:16un-christian thing which is trying to deflect and trying to deceive the audience
02:22ryan whatever is interesting to you i don't care deal with my question william
02:26in your cross-examination that's fine if you want to waste your time on this that's all good
02:30it is brutal for you because i know where you got it from i know you got all these quotes
02:34from google.com
02:35you did zero research are you aware ryan that that is a fake quote it doesn't even come from saint
02:41jerome uh i'm i would have to double check where i got the source from i can't i can't tell
02:46you
02:46right now you got it off of google oh what a tangled web he weaves do you are let me
02:51ask you this
02:52question it's actually hold up hold up hold up hold up you did a video of the church fathers and
02:57saints alone and you used the fake quote and i'm asking you to provide the william all the
03:02quotes i've showed you so far in this debate has a single one of them been a fake quote in
03:06any of the
03:07ones that have actually yes they have yes they have ambrosia is pseudo ambrosia is pseudonymous
03:12yes sir that's fake there are many examples where ryan from needgod.net misrepresents people like
03:18this be they church fathers muslims other christians etc that's why i simply don't trust his
03:24characterization of things but we will try to respond to the claims that he makes about this priest in
03:30this video the next morning at a coffee shop we're just reading the bible together and then
03:36a catholic priest came up to some of the team and like hey you christians you're reading the bible
03:41and then so the team member got to ask the priest what must i do to be saved what was
03:46his answer
03:47can you guys predict it now over the years it has been my experience that catholic priests would
03:51emphasize loving god above all and your neighbor as yourself we'd find support for this in the gospel
03:58according to saint mark chapter 12 verse 30 to 31 which reads you shall love the lord your god with
04:05all your heart with all your soul with all your mind and with all your strength the second is this
04:11you shall love your neighbor as yourself there is no other commandment greater than these now this is
04:17linked to the 10 commandments because the first part of the 10 commandments is man's relationship with
04:22god and the second part is man's relationship with man it was do the beatitudes and keep the 10
04:30commandments the beatitudes are a series of blessings proclaimed by jesus at the beginning of the sermon
04:37on the mount in the gospel according to saint matthew chapter 5 in catholic teaching they are considered
04:43central to jesus's preaching and presents the heart of the gospel message his holiness pope francis called
04:50the beatitudes a roadmap to sainthood it's how we are supposed to live as christians also in the gospel
04:57according to saint john chapter 3 verse 36 we read whoever believes in the son has eternal life
05:04but whoever disobeys the son will not see life but the wrath of god remains upon him so we see
05:11the
05:11importance of obedience to god and keeping his commandments in the bible there was a time when
05:18someone came up to the apostle paul and said what must i do to be saved in act 16
05:22and paul's answer was believe in the lord jesus christ and you'll be saved now ryan being a low
05:29church protestant holds to a reductionist view of the gospel he just sees believe and then ignores
05:36everything else in a previous video we talk about how believing or belief in the bible refers to an
05:43ongoing belief or faithfulness which is made very clear in habakkuk 2.4 as we read behold he that is
05:51unbelieving his soul shall not be right in himself but the just shall live in his faith the catholic
05:59priest said believing in jesus is not enough to go to heaven now we will never know what this alleged
06:05priest really said to ryan and as i've demonstrated we can't trust ryan's characterization but i demonstrated
06:13why it is important to obey god you cannot simply have intellectual assent you must have an abiding faith
06:20that is revealing the bible says believing in christ is enough to be saved this priest we met says it's
06:28not enough i think this shows that why many of the filipino people are thinking that their good works
06:34get them to heaven is because this is even what the catholic priest is saying as a christian i find
06:40it
06:40extremely troubling how ryan would go to the philippines and straw man an entire nation now before ending
06:46the show let's take a look at two other clips here in the philippines what's the predominant idea on
06:52how to go to heaven 80 percent believe that they they have to work on it now to me it
06:57seems that this
06:58is in reference to philippines being an 80 catholic country but let's see what the bible has to say
07:05according to philippines chapter 2 verse 12 so then my beloved obedient as you have always been
07:11not only when i am present but all the more now when i'm absent work out your salvation with fear
07:19and trembling and in verse 13 we read for god is the one who for his good purpose works in
07:26you both to
07:27desire and to work this isn't just a mere intellectual assent this is an abiding faith
07:34they have to make good works yeah they have to make penitence they need to go to church and serve
07:41there's a lot of work yeah a lot of work they sound like a bunch of men complaining about a
07:46marriage
07:46marriage is a lot of work marriage is also a covenant and to maintain a covenant relationship
07:53with your wife and with god it requires faithfulness and to be faithful sometimes feels like a lot of work
08:01marriage isn't just about signing a contract it's a relationship that you participate in every single
08:09day of your life it is a beautiful sacrament given to us by god and if you don't maintain that
08:15relationship it can fall apart okay and so why does that not work why does that not get us to
08:21heaven
08:21because the heaven is a place where the bible is stated that there is only one way and it is
08:28through
08:29jesus christ amen lord jesus christ is the only way we can get to heaven so you better obey him
08:35we don't
08:36get to create another way it is exclusive for the bible's promise that if you believe in jesus christ
08:44you will have eternal life now in the next clip ryan will talk to a filipino celebrity who's supporting
08:50his work in the philippines i'm here in the philippines with joros i hear that you're a famous actor
08:56is that right i know no jesus is the most famous one now i've never heard someone refer to jesus
09:03as
09:03an actor before because in my mind an actor is someone who pretends to be someone else
09:08in my mind judas would be an actor i'm just a supporting cast in my own life i like the
09:15humility
09:15man that's awesome some people say isn't it a bit arrogant to say that you know that you're going to
09:22now the reason why christians believe presumption is a sin is because judgment belongs to god and only
09:28when we leave our mortal flesh behind do we receive judgment no because all religion is people trying
09:36to reach up to god and all religions are like me doing this thing obeying god and maybe maybe i
09:45will
09:45go to heaven now i do agree that modern protestant denominations holding to eternal security or one
09:53saved always saved deviate from what the vast majority of the world's religions believed prior
09:58to the 16th century but in christianity we can say we are surely going to heaven not because of our
10:05good
10:06works but all because of what jesus did in conclusion i just like to say that salvation is god's initiative
10:13the grace that we received was merited by him on the cross christians do not place ourselves in god's
10:21judgment seat we await judgment as we read in saint paul's epistols to the romans chapter 14 verse 10 to
10:2912 why then do you judge your brother or you why do you look down on your brother for we
10:36shall all stand
10:37before the judgment seat of god for it is written as i live says the lord every knee shall bend
10:42before me
10:43and every tongue shall give praise to god so each of us shall give an account of himself thank you
10:51all
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