00:03First question from Indian Express, Asad.
00:16Hi Mr. Gandhi.
00:18Yes.
00:19Sir, my question is if the opposition and the Congress party is fully convinced that the election commission of India
00:29is compromised,
00:30and that the election process in the past have been rigged, then what is the approach that you are going
00:38to take with elections that are upcoming in states?
00:41As I said, this country has never been sitting in this place before.
00:48This chain, this is a sacred chain.
00:56This chain between vote, constitution, laws and institutions, this is a sacred chain.
01:04If you believe in the Indian Union, this is your religion.
01:13Let me repeat it.
01:14If you believe in the Indian Union, if you believe in that flag, then this is your religion.
01:22Because this is how India's people express their voice.
01:27So, we are sitting in a very different place.
01:35And, as I said, the information is available not only to us, to multiple actors.
01:43It is going to come out.
01:48Right?
01:49We have been saying from the beginning, show me the timeline.
01:54I have been saying from the beginning, three years now, that votes are being stolen, elections are not fair.
02:06Now, you are saying to me, that the congress party is saying this.
02:12No, the congress party was saying it.
02:15Now, the election commission itself is saying it.
02:20So, whatever we have been saying, has now been accepted by two election commissioners.
02:28So, now we have entered a new space.
02:31Because earlier, the institution was denying what we were saying.
02:35Now, the institution has accepted what we were saying.
02:38Which means the institution is saying this is true.
02:41What Mr. Gandhi has been saying for three years is true.
02:45And Mr. Gyanesh Kumar has been helping in stealing elections.
02:51So, let me, let me, let me, let me.
03:19I will tell you
03:26when I was 7 years old
03:30in 1977
03:34Indira Gandhi was Prime Minister
03:38everybody knew
03:39including her that she was going to lose
03:42feeling
03:43now that feeling
03:46can be a mistake
03:46that you thought
03:49that like Vajpayee Ji
03:53feeling is wrong
03:55one time can be wrong
03:58two times
03:59two times
04:00three times
04:01four times
04:02five times
04:03it will happen
04:05so there is something
04:06known as a feeling
04:07country feels it
04:12and
04:13two-three elections
04:15were like this
04:18when we have
04:20many technical experts
04:22when we are
04:24technically
04:24looking at it
04:25they were saying
04:26this is not possible
04:29Madhya Pradesh
04:30was the election
04:31and the 36th
04:31election
04:33there were multiple
04:34elections where
04:35they were saying
04:35this cannot be
04:36how is this happening
04:41suspicion was building up
04:44we
04:45started
04:46working on it
04:47and I must tell you
04:49this thing
04:50you will probably never see the people
04:52who are
04:53responsible for this
04:54but there is a
04:55huge team of people
04:56who are responsible for this
04:57who are unknown
04:58who are
04:58the biggest
05:00nationalists in this country
05:02and they have been
05:03working silently
05:04without
05:05telling anybody
05:06what they are doing
05:09Punjab Kesri
05:11Surinder
05:11Ji
05:19Sanjeev
05:31so
05:33vote
05:34vote
05:34chori
05:34karneke basic
05:35broad
05:35dos
05:35systems
05:36hain
05:37a
05:38system
05:40voter
05:40list
05:41ko
05:41temper
05:41karneka
05:42voters
05:42add
05:43subtract
05:43aur
05:45dousra
05:45system
05:46evm
05:47ka
05:47system
05:51dono
05:51systems
05:53se
05:54vote
05:54chori
05:54ki
05:55jari
05:55hai
05:56we are aware
05:59of
05:59vote chori
06:00in both
06:00systems
06:01evm
06:02and this
06:03it is available
06:06we know
06:07it
06:10to
06:10dono
06:11tariqe
06:11se
06:11ki
06:11jari
06:11hai
06:14ek
06:16directly
06:17vote
06:18voter
06:18ke
06:18naam
06:18badal
06:19ke
06:19voters
06:19ko
06:19kaat
06:20ke
06:20voters
06:20ko
06:20shift
06:21karke
06:21constituencies
06:22ko
06:22badal
06:23ke
06:23aur
06:24dousra
06:24electronically
06:25through the
06:25electronic
06:25voting
06:26machine
06:29sanjay
06:29mishra
06:30tainik
06:30jagran
06:32this will
06:33come out
06:34it's only a
06:35question of
06:35time
06:35you will see
06:36it is coming
06:36out
06:39rahul
06:40ji
06:47raul
06:47rahul
06:47jih
06:47aap
06:48ne
06:48ka
06:48vote
06:48destroy
06:49ho
06:50rye
06:50hai
06:50ik
06:51process
06:51chal
06:51ra
06:51is
06:51a
06:52us
06:53process
06:53me
06:54ek
06:54taraf
06:54jahan
06:55kororo
06:55loog
06:55bahar
06:56ho
06:56rye
06:56the new voters, the Gen Z voters are very difficult to add them. If they want to add a registration,
07:04then the new voters are very difficult to get the entry today in the voter list.
07:09The Gen Z voters are now left out. What do you say about that?
07:15They know that the Gen Zs are raising their voice and they don't want to give them a vote.
07:24That's happening. But another very dangerous thing happened.
07:30The election commission has lost control of the voter list.
07:39The first credibility of the voter list was left.
07:47The election commission itself, internally, and I am aware of these conversations, internally is saying that we have lost control
07:58of our voter list.
08:04This is the talk in their system.
08:08That the voter list that used to be a clean, properly defined voter list is now a corrupted voter list.
08:17It has been destroyed.
08:19People have been removed.
08:20People have been added.
08:21There is chaos.
08:23And if you speak to anybody in the election commission off the record, you can ask them, they'll tell you.
08:30PTI say, Arjana.
08:37Hi, Rahul Ji. I am Arjana from PTI.
08:40My question to you is, which Congress will ask the ECI to reveal which official can edit the electoral rules
08:50and data at national level, district level or the state level or constituency level?
08:55What is your take on that?
08:57What is your take on that?
08:59Which are the people who can fiddle the voter list?
09:01Yes.
09:02There are multiple people at multiple levels.
09:04So, different levels have different types of access and different people can shift voters.
09:09So, it's not only that the top can do it. Multiple levels can do it.
09:12What is your take on that?
09:18Look, frankly, we do not believe anything the election commission is saying.
09:25Right?
09:26We have been saying for three years, all opposition parties are saying it.
09:31Now the election commission is itself saying it.
09:34We do not believe anything they tell us because, go back to that chain, because this chain is broken.
09:44If the chain was not broken, if the vote was secure, and the constitution through the vote had its power,
09:55and the laws were being made, and the institutions were being fed by the vote, we would have no problem
10:03believing the election commission.
10:05But what has happened is that this chain is gone.
10:08There is no connection between the vote and the constitution.
10:11There is no connection between the vote and the institutions, because the vote has been destroyed.
10:16So, we cannot believe anything the election commission says.
10:19And there has to be a full reform of the election commission, done independently.
10:26I don't think this government can do it.
10:28I don't think they will ever do it.
10:31This is only going to happen when this government changes.
10:35But, the essence of what I am trying to tell you, is that this is fundamental attack on the idea
10:42of India.
10:43This is not just an attack on the vote.
10:46And this has been carried out by the leadership of this country.
10:52So, those people who are given the holy duty, the sacred duty of protecting the basic foundation of this country
11:04have gone and attacked it.
11:07That's what's happened.
11:11Sandeep Bhukan, the Hindu.
11:14Mr. Gandhi, you've been doing press conferences on the voter addition and deletion.
11:22And this process essentially evolved, I mean emerged out of these SIR.
11:27That case is being heard in this country.
11:28No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
11:30Voter deletion, voter addition was going on much before the SIR.
11:33No, I mean...
11:34SIR, no, it's important that people understand this.
11:37SIR came once we started saying there's a problem with voter deletion and addition.
11:43It was a response to our questions.
11:47And the idea was ki bahiya, let us broad brush this and clean this thing out because we are going
11:54to get into trouble.
11:55It was a...
11:57Go on.
11:58So, when the SIR went to the Supreme Court, the case is still being heard.
12:03But the Supreme Court allowed it.
12:05It happened in Bihar with some caveats in Bengal.
12:09And now it's happening in all over the country.
12:12But after these revelations, the situation has changed.
12:15Where does that leave the opposition?
12:18How would you approach this?
12:19Look...
12:20Are you going to approach it differently?
12:22We are...
12:22We are...
12:23We are heading to a place.
12:25Whether...
12:27We like it or we don't like it.
12:32We are heading to a place where people don't believe it anyway.
12:37If tomorrow the BJP sweeps the national election, India will not believe it.
12:48It's that simple.
12:50So now we are heading to the point where public expression will not allow BJP to get the type of
13:02majority they were getting.
13:05So now cheating is becoming more and more difficult.
13:09And you can see that expression in Jantar Mantar.
13:12You can see it all across the country.
13:14People do not believe that elections in India are legitimate.
13:20We've been polling people.
13:23This belief which is sacred belief for us.
13:28Even if BJP wins.
13:30It's a sacred belief that people of India believe in the vote.
13:34That belief is dying.
13:36And that belief has to be revived.
13:38Immediately.
13:45Earth ANI.
13:47Hello sir.
13:48You have said that Gyanesh Kumar should be removed.
13:51You should turn approver.
13:55Approver.
13:56You have given them.
13:56You have given them.
13:57It's them.
14:00You will acting.
14:26Another reason.
14:26as I said before,
14:32this situation is
14:34never before
14:35in Hindustan.
14:38We have reached a new place.
14:41This chain is broken.
14:43This is
14:44in Hindustan's modern history
14:46never broken.
14:50Never.
14:54So,
14:55we are suddenly finding ourselves
14:58where the chain
14:59between the vote,
15:01the laws,
15:03the institutions
15:04and the constitution is broken.
15:07It's a new territory.
15:12Mr. Modi
15:13and Mr. Shah cannot inquire about
15:15themselves, I don't think.
15:17They will do a little inquiry.
15:19So, inquiry has to be
15:21done
15:23once this system is repaired.
15:26Everybody in India believes
15:28that the system is damaged.
15:31Many people believe that
15:33it has ceased to exist
15:35and many people believe
15:37that it is damaged.
15:37There is nobody
15:39in their right mind
15:40in India
15:41who does not suspect
15:42that the system is damaged.
15:45There is fear
15:47so people are scared to say it.
15:49You are also scared
15:50to say it?
15:51I appreciate that.
15:56But,
15:57the fear is reducing
15:59because two election commissioners
16:00who are scared to say it
16:01have said it.
16:03And so,
16:04there are many patriotic people
16:06like those two gentlemen
16:09who are willing to say it.
16:10And it is most important
16:12for India's future
16:13that we say it.
16:17Because remaining silent
16:18on this
16:19is an anti-national act.
16:26Final question.
16:27Heymanth Rajora,
16:28now Bharat Times.
16:59what will happen to you
17:01in the future?
17:03What will happen to you
17:05in the future?
17:05in the future?
17:06And what will happen to you?
17:07Look,
17:10in opposition
17:12there is 100% agreement
17:15that vote is going to be
17:17and to stop voting.
17:20Not 99%,
17:22everybody.
17:23And frankly,
17:24I will tell you
17:25that BJP
17:25in the future
17:26people are saying
17:30it is very clear
17:33that this is
17:34the single biggest issue
17:35in front of our democracy.
17:36We are going to cooperate.
17:38We will cooperate with the opposition.
17:41We will cooperate with them.
17:42We will work with them.
17:43And
17:45our duty,
17:47our sacred duty
17:48is to protect
17:49the constitution
17:50and the vote
17:50which we are going to do.
18:02Thank you very much.
18:04I will avoid the distraction.
18:07But
18:09thank you.
18:11Thank you very much.
18:27You are obviously a congressy.
