00:00A mass migration surge from Morocco to the Spanish enclave of Ceuta in July has led to a deterioration of
00:08relations between Madrid and Rabat, and it has revived the debate over migration in Europe.
00:14Our correspondent Maya de la Beaume spoke with Marion Maréchal, a French far-right member of the European Parliament and
00:21a niece of Marine Le Pen.
00:23Maya started by asking her about the reason for her visit to Ceuta this week.
00:30To alert Europeans to the fact that the problem has not been completely resolved.
00:36Today, there are still several thousand people who continue to stay illegally in this enclave of Ceuta.
00:41We are talking about a minimum of one sexual assault per day, if not several rapes.
00:46Today, there are a dozen dangerous jihadist profiles that are now identified by the Spanish intelligence services and are wanted.
00:52And above all, we do not yet have a lasting solution, if I may say so, because we know that
00:57today there are a certain number of illegal migrants who are transferred to Spain.
01:02Spain is now in the Schengen area.
01:04And so the objective of my presence is also to send a political signal and to say that tomorrow we
01:09will have to deal with the subject, the functioning of the Schengen area on the one hand,
01:12and on the other hand, the subject of asylum law and its misuse, which is today one of the main
01:18routes of illegal immigration in Europe.
01:23The European Union has put in place new migration rules since June, in particular allowing member states to create these
01:29famous return centers outside Europe.
01:31Do you think that's enough?
01:34This is one of the proposals among a whole range of proposals that should allow us to more easily intercept
01:40and return illegal immigrants to European soil today.
01:43A very important step, but once again, it is not enough.
01:46Tomorrow, we will also have to tackle the issue of asylum, which, I would remind you, is first and foremost
01:51governed by European law and which is a massive illegal immigration channel today.
01:56We must focus on the free movement within the Schengen area, which has become dangerous today for all European residents
02:02and citizens.
02:03And I will tell you, I'm very hopeful that we will succeed, because if by chance tomorrow Marine Lupin is
02:09brought to power in France,
02:10if Giorgia Meloni is re-elected, we would have the possibility of having a Franco-Italian couple on these immigration
02:16issues who work together to re-orient Europe in the right direction.
02:22Would you go so far as to close the border between France and Spain?
02:25Because we know that France did not close the border. It put border controls in place.
02:33Personally, I fully understand the legitimate decision of Giorgia Meloni to have closed their borders,
02:38since I remind you, we do not say it enough, there are among these influxes of migrants, potential jihadis,
02:43and that is very well documented by the Spanish intelligence services, so there is a security threat.
02:48So it would seem common sense to me, for reasons mainly of security, but also of defending our European identity,
02:54to no longer defend free movement for all, which obviously makes us, I'd say, puts us hostage when socialist governments,
03:01like that of Pedro Sánchez, regulate massively, since it is all of Europe that is suddenly paying the consequences.
03:09Are we not dealing with a case of human rights violation?
03:13That is the problem, if you will.
03:14Today, most migration laws are no longer defined in national assemblies and parliaments,
03:19but by the case law of the courts, and in particular, the Constitutional Council.
03:23And that is not acceptable, if you want it, because we have major principles,
03:27that of our social pact through the Constitution, but which has been interpreted, over-interpreted,
03:32and sometimes even misguided, which means that today we no longer have perfect control
03:36of who can return, stay, or be expelled from the French territory.
