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Hundreds of bones emerge from a Himalayan glacier—and DNA reveals Greek roots, deaths a thousand years apart, and a mystery tourists may have muddied forever. What were Mediterranean travelers doing at this deadly lake? Join us as we follow the clues.
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0:00 - Roopkund’s Discovery and Early Theories
4:43 - The Pilgrimage Legend and Hail Theory
10:14 - Dating Reveals Separate Tragedies
12:54 - Greek DNA in the Himalayas
17:11 - Foreign Travelers on a Deadly Route
19:17 - Searching for the Travelers’ Descendants
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0:00 - Roopkund’s Discovery and Early Theories
4:43 - The Pilgrimage Legend and Hail Theory
10:14 - Dating Reveals Separate Tragedies
12:54 - Greek DNA in the Himalayas
17:11 - Foreign Travelers on a Deadly Route
19:17 - Searching for the Travelers’ Descendants
21:26 - Lost Evidence and Roopkund’s Unanswered Mystery
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00:00Altitude. 5,000 meters. The glacier is melting and hundreds of human skulls are appearing on
00:06the surface. For decades, it was believed that all these people were killed by an ancient storm.
00:11But DNA analysis shocked the scientists. These people died a thousand years apart,
00:16and some of them came from the Greek island of Crete. Hello, my friend. You're on the
00:21Kirtop channel. My name is Alexander, and today we will find out what the most terrifying lake
00:26on the planet. Rupkund is hiding. Let's figure it out. A cemetery at an altitude of 5,000 meters.
00:35Some remains at Lake Rupkund are so well preserved that researchers have found not only hair and
00:40nails on them, but even remnants of soft tissues. At first glance, one might think that these people
00:46died relatively recently. However, in these mountains, appearances are deceiving. The cold
00:52helped preserve what might have simply disappeared elsewhere. And that means it's simply impossible
00:57to determine the age of the find just because it looks frightening. The lake itself is located
01:02in the Indian Himalayas at an altitude of just over 5,000 meters. It's quite small, about 40 meters
01:08across, and for most of the year it's hidden under snow and ice. When the snow recedes, skulls, ribs,
01:14and long human bones become visible among the rocks and in the water. This is not a cemetery with neat
01:19rows of graves. The remains are mixed together, scattered along the shore and slopes, and no one
01:25knows the exact number of people who died. Scientists talk about hundreds of bodies, but no one can give
01:30an exact number. The mountains are literally strewn with bones. To reach this place, you have to cross
01:36mountains, and the last stretches are already above the tree line. If the weather turns bad, you can't
01:42just wait it out under a tree here, and the nearest shelter isn't just around the corner. Honestly, I'm
01:47cautious about a route that's described as just a few days on foot. The word just is usually said by
01:54someone who doesn't actually have to walk this path. But the jokes end when you realize that there
02:00really are people here for whom there was no way back. The panic of 1942 and Japanese saboteurs.
02:09The lake became widely known after the remains were discovered by forest workers in 1942.
02:16And this is where the real detective story begins, which is often forgotten today. It was 1942. The
02:24height of World War II. The Japanese Imperial Army was advancing rapidly in Belarus, Burma, and had
02:31come close to British India. And when the Indian forest ranger Hari Kishan Madwal accidentally stumbled
02:37upon hundreds of frozen human bodies on a remote mountain pass, the British command went into a real
02:42panic. The military's first thought was that the Japanese had found a secret passage through the
02:46Himalayas. The British decided that it was an elite sabotage unit that tried to bypass the defensive
02:51line from the north, but froze on the pass. A military commission was urgently sent to the mountains.
02:56The officers literally examined everything under a magnifying glass. The uniforms, buttons, scraps of
03:02fabric, equipment, and shoes of the dead, trying to find any traces of Japanese army gear. And only when it
03:08became obvious that the fabrics were too ancient and the bones had been lying in the ice long before
03:12the war, did the headquarters breathe a sigh of relief. The panic subsided. But questions remained
03:18in the air. If these aren't Japanese and not soldiers, then who are they? Later, research expeditions
03:23came here. They took samples and tried to understand what kind of people died so far from populated areas.
03:29Among the explanations were a military unit, traders, pilgrims, and victims of an epidemic. Just by looking at the
03:36scattered bones, it's impossible to choose between these stories. Each one explains a part of the
03:41picture, but not the whole discovery. Gradually, details began to emerge that didn't fit well with
03:46the version of an ordinary military unit. Anthropologists saw that among the dead, there were
03:51not only men, but also women, including elderly ones. Nearby, they found jewelry and umbrellas of the type
03:57used by participants in local religious pilgrimages. This still doesn't reveal the identities of the
04:02deceased, but it does make us look at the route itself differently. Perhaps people came up here
04:08not to fight or transport goods, but for something that was more important to them than comfort and
04:14safety. Even before the genetic research, anthropologists noticed how much people differed
04:18in their body types. From individual long bones, they reconstructed the height of several people
04:23at about 1 meter 85 and above, while others were significantly shorter. The idea of adoption came up.
04:30It came up. But you can't prove that just by height. Tall and short people can be found in any
04:37community. For now, it was just a lead that fit well with a diverse group of travelers.
04:42But if the military trail led to a dead end, why did the locals avoid this lake and whisper the
04:50same
04:50song to each other? Now you'll understand why. Why did the goddess execute the king? What Rupkund has an unusual
04:59clue for such a mystery? The local legend doesn't just declare the lake cursed. It explains in quite some detail
05:06who died here and why. It features a ruler, his entourage, and a punishment that came down from the heavens.
05:12And before dismissing this story, it's worth seeing where the trail by the lake leads. Through these
05:18mountains passes the Nandadevi Raj Jat pilgrimage. Raj Jat, dedicated to the goddess. The large procession
05:25is traditionally associated with a 12-year cycle, and the entire route stretches for 100 kilometers.
05:31Ancient manuscripts about this pilgrimage have hardly survived to our time. But on the walls of
05:35neighboring temples, these routes were carved into the walls a thousand years ago. So people went to the
05:40pass not for fun, but driven by blind faith. According to one version of the legend, King Kanaoj
05:46Just Kaval went on a pilgrimage with his wife, courtiers, and servants. But instead of behaving as
05:52the sacred path traditionally required, he brought dancers and musicians, turning the journey into a
05:58noisy procession. According to legend, this angered Nandadevi, and the goddess sent a deadly storm upon the
06:04people. A local song speaks of hail as hard as iron, from which the group could not escape. It's easy
06:10to
06:10get carried away here and start assigning roles to the scattered skulls. This one belonged to the king,
06:15this one to the musician, and over there perhaps lay the guide. But Kostya wasn't told anything like
06:21that. The legend has characters, the discoveries don't have names yet, and it's tempting to connect
06:26them with one beautiful story. Especially because half the work has already been done for us. At the same
06:31time, some details really do fit the idea of travelers with an escort. They found dents on the skull bones.
06:37Exactly the same marks can still be seen today on Himalayan porters who spend their whole lives
06:43carrying loads on their heads. So what we have here is not just gentlemen, but an entire expedition
06:48with servants, along with items that resemble those of pilgrims. This makes the theory of a religious
06:53journey much more convincing than just a story about a king who made a poor choice of entertainment.
06:58There is also a human question, which is easy to overlook behind all the theories. For you and me,
07:04the altitude and the difficult road seem like reasons not to go. But for the participants of
07:08the pilgrimage, the journey had a completely different meaning. I can say, yes, I would have
07:13turned back even before the pass. But that doesn't explain anything for a person for whom making this
07:18journey was very important. To understand those who died, it's not enough to judge the route by our own
07:24ideas of a reasonable descent. We need to figure out what made them willing to endure its hardships.
07:29But the most interesting connection with the legend turned out not to be in the ornaments or the
07:34supposed porters. Among the skulls, there were some damaged by heavy blows and some injuries could
07:39have occurred around the time of death. So the story about deadly hail and the actual bone damage,
07:45at least partially match. I would also like to see here the memory of eyewitnesses who survived the
07:50suffering. But for now, the opposite is also possible. People first saw the bones and only then
07:57came up with the legend. Knowing exactly what delivered the blows could help us distinguish
08:01between these possibilities. But the most terrifying thing was hidden in the injuries.
08:06The experts looked at the pierced skulls and realized the murder weapon had literally melted
08:10before their eyes. The murder weapon melted without a trace. The supposed murder weapon used on these
08:17people could have simply melted away, leaving nothing behind except damaged bones. Researchers
08:23considered giant hailstones. And for this, it wasn't necessary to take the story of an enraged goddess
08:29literally. It's enough to imagine a severe storm in an open, high-altitude area where a large group
08:35simply has no reliable shelter. In such a situation, hail doesn't have to kill everyone with a direct hit.
08:41In the reconstruction proposed by researchers, some people could have received fatal blows,
08:46while others could have been left injured in the cold and failed to survive the storm. A difficult trek,
08:51an exposed slope, and the inability to descend quickly make this version quite understandable without
08:56any mysticism. In the early 2000s, it became widely known, including thanks to the National Geographic
09:02Project. And, it must be admitted, the explanation turned out to be quite tempting. The pilgrimage
09:07gives a reason to go up into the mountains, the storm explains the deaths, and a local song seems to
09:12preserve the memory of what happened. Usually, in stories like this, at least one link is missing.
09:17But here, it seems everything fits together. At this point, I'm ready to believe. Especially since this
09:22version doesn't require any secret weapon or vanished civilization. But in the actual anthropologist
09:27report, everything is much more mundane. Fatal holes in the skull caused by hail were found in
09:33only three people. The rest had their skulls fractured after death. They were simply crushed
09:37by rocks and landslides. So, the hail theory explains the deaths of only a few travelers,
09:42but certainly not all the deaths at the lake. This isn't a refutation of the hail theory,
09:46but there's a huge difference between it could have happened this way and we have established the
09:51cause of death for everyone at the lake. For some of the victims, the storm remains a plausible
09:55explanation. But for the rest, there is still no answer. Before applying a single explanation to
10:01the entire Roopkund, we need to check a simple thing. Could these people have even been caught in the
10:07same storm? And this is where historians were literally left speechless. Because physicists got
10:12involved in the case, a thousand-year mistake and the collapse of the old theory. Some of the supposed
10:20victims of this catastrophe couldn't have met even in theory. When some died, there was still a whole
10:27century left before the others. This was shown by the dating results published in a major study in 2019.
10:32The researchers determined the ages of 37 people, and they saw not one compact group, but two periods
10:39that were very far apart from each other. The early remains dated back to approximately the 7th to 10th
10:44centuries AD, the later ones to the 17th to 20th centuries, with a gap of about 1,000 years between
10:51the main groups. And no margin of error in the instruments can merge this data together. The early
10:56middle ages and the 19th century could not have met on the same day. No way. Moreover, even within the
11:02early group, the story doesn't add up to a single catastrophe. One person's remains date to between 675 and
11:08769. Another one is dated between 894 and 985. Even the closest boundaries of these ranges are
11:16separated by more than a century. So while we were trying to imagine a single procession, we already
11:21had evidence of separate fatal incidents. And this was long before the arrival of later travelers.
11:26This naturally raises a perfectly reasonable question. Why wasn't this noticed earlier? It might
11:31seem that the old instruments were simply off by a thousand years. But the situation turned out to be
11:36more interesting. Before the major study, there were already dating results for five samples.
11:41And all of them really pointed to the early middle ages. People from a much later group simply weren't
11:47included in that small sample. The new study did not overturn the age of the old samples. It just
11:52showed that the history of the lake doesn't end with them. And here the scientists made a classic
11:56mistake. They only examined five ancient bones and decided they had solved the mystery of all the
12:02hundreds who died. But five bones are not the whole lake. The device can give a completely correct answer
12:08to a question that isn't enough to solve the mystery. Now a new theory can be proposed. And it's
12:14even simpler than the previous one. Pilgrims traveled through dangerous areas. In different years,
12:19tragedies happened. And the remains gradually accumulated by the lake. You don't need one incredible storm for
12:25that. A long history of the route is enough, where people from time to time didn't make it back home.
12:29But that same 2019 study contained another set of results, which didn't really fit this
12:36convenient theory anymore. And so we found out people had been dying here for centuries.
12:42It would seem the mystery was solved, but not quite. Because the results of the 2019 genetic test
12:49truly shocked biologists. No one expected this.
12:54The mystery of Greek DNA in the Himalayas.
12:57The age difference can still be explained by centuries of pilgrimage.
13:02But how do you explain people whose closest genetic ties lead to the other end of a vast continent?
13:09Out of the 38 people whose DNA was studied, not all of them turned out to be similar to the
13:15inhabitants of South Asia. And it's not just about one strange sample that accidentally stood out
13:20from the general pattern. 23 people really had origins connected to South Asia. And they were
13:26noticeably different from each other. It didn't look like a small community where everyone married
13:30only among themselves for generations. Among the people studied, there were both men and women.
13:35And the team didn't find any pairs of close relatives. For a pilgrimage that gathers people from
13:40different places, such a picture fits quite well. Although, of course, genetics alone doesn't prove it
13:46was a religious journey. But 14 people showed similarities with the population of the eastern
13:53Mediterranean, especially with modern Greeks and the inhabitants of Crete. This was actually the later group,
13:59who lived a thousand years after those who died earlier. So, the explanation that people from
14:04different regions simply came here no longer covers everyone who was studied. Somewhere between the
14:09Mediterranean and the Himalayan pass, the story was missing an enormous journey. DNA showed a direct
14:15relationship with Crete and Greece. The first thought was, come on, this must be a lab error. One of the
14:20scientists or guides just sneezed on the sample. But the biologist double-checked everything down to the
14:25molecule. The DNA is genuine. And when the physicists looked at the chemical composition of the bones,
14:31the puzzle finally came together. What we eat is literally recorded in our skeleton. The Indians from
14:38Rupkund ate millet, but the second group grew up on Mediterranean wheat. These are not the mythical
14:43descendants of Alexander the Great's warriors who lived in India for centuries. These were outsiders with
14:48no local ancestry who arrived in the Himalayas literally just months before their deaths. Add to that
14:54another traveler from Southeast Asia whose remains were found. The picture that emerges is absolutely
14:59bizarre. Why did the Europeans come here without maps or equipment, where even your breath freezes?
15:07Why did the Europeans go to certain death? The simplest explanation wouldn't require this
15:12group to have traveled halfway around the world at all. What if their ancestors reached South Asia a long
15:17time ago and they were already born here? A scientific article does indeed consider such a possibility.
15:23Related to the Indo-Greek communities that emerged after the era of Alexander the Great.
15:29Admit it, it makes things much simpler. No mysterious expedition from the Mediterranean,
15:34just descendants of people who had lived nearby for a long time. But this elegant theory has a solid
15:39refutation. If these were distant descendants of Alexander the Great's soldiers, over 2000 years,
15:44their genome would inevitably have mixed with the Indian one. Just as it happened, for example, with the Kalash
15:49people. But here, geneticists were stunned. There are absolutely no local admixtures at all. Not a
15:55single percent. These 14 people were from the eastern Mediterranean with no Indian ancestry. They
16:02hadn't lived in India for centuries. They arrived here from Europe in the 19th century and immediately
16:08went to the deadly pass. That leaves travelers, merchants, or members of some expedition. However,
16:14Lake Rubekund itself is not on a major trade route. So just saying merchants isn't enough. We need to
16:20explain why they needed that particular high-altitude stretch. At the same time, I wouldn't call such a
16:26journey impossible. After all, we're not discussing the impossibility of crossing the distance, but rather
16:31the lack of a clear reason to do so. The person might have had a very compelling reason. One that
16:36simply
16:37didn't survive, along with his bones. What if they were just foreign pilgrims who came to believe
16:42in the local gods? That sounds naive if you know the realities of that time. The 19th century. A
16:48sacred ritual honoring the goddess Nanda Devi closed to outsiders. For centuries, outsiders were not
16:53allowed in under threat of death. The appearance of a group of Europeans in the middle of a Hindu sacred
16:57procession would have caused a religious riot. Not a single Brahmin would have blessed outsiders for this
17:02journey. And yet, bones don't lie. 14 Mediterranean people lay mixed with the locals, at an altitude of
17:105,000 meters. To understand the scale of that tragedy, you need to realize what 5,000 meters above sea
17:17level means. That's the altitude of Everest's base camp. At this altitude, atmospheric pressure drops by
17:24almost half, and there's critically little oxygen in the air. In such conditions, even professional
17:29climbers move slowly, counting every step. For an unprepared person, this is where hell begins.
17:36Acute mountain sickness hits the body instantly. Severe headache, loss of coordination, nausea,
17:42and confusion. At any moment, pulmonary or cerebral edema can begin. That's when a person simply stops
17:48understanding where they are and where they're going. Now imagine people from the 19th century,
17:53in woolen or leather clothing, without waterproof breathable jackets,
17:57without oxygen tanks, and without maps. If a sudden blizzard catches you at this altitude,
18:03or the temperature drops to minus 20 degrees celsius, you don't even have half an hour to think.
18:08Panic, hypoxia, and hypothermia kill faster than any weapon. The people by the lake may not have died
18:14from a mythical blow from the sky, but simply because their bodies couldn't handle the altitude.
18:20There's an even simpler explanation. Maybe the lake wasn't their destination. Anthropologist William Sachs,
18:26who has been here and studied the pilgrimage, explained that modern participants don't stay
18:30at Rupkin for long. They need to keep moving. That's an important difference. It's one thing to
18:35look for a mysterious place that for some reason attracted foreigners, and another thing entirely
18:41to look for a route on which they died. A person can die near a lake they never specifically intended
18:46to
18:46visit. The available dating results of the later group overlap, so they allow for the possibility that
18:51they died in the same event. But they don't prove that everyone died on the same day. A
18:55person of Southeast Asian origin could have been traveling with them, or could have ended up here
19:00separately. The authors suggested searching the archives for reports about travelers who died.
19:05But in the actual study, there is no document that would link the records to a specific expedition.
19:10However, a few years later, there was an attempt to look for answers, not in old documents,
19:15but among living people. Searching for living descendants in 2025. It's much easier to identify
19:24the deceased when you can find their relatives. But is it possible to do this after several centuries,
19:29when you don't even know which country to start searching in? In 2025, they tried to approach the
19:36remains at Rupkund from this angle, comparing their DNA with data from modern people. The 2-3-and-me team,
19:43which included one of the authors of the 2019 study, used 17 well-preserved genetic samples.
19:52They were compared with a database of more than 11 million participants who agreed to the study.
19:57Did they find any matches? They have already found matches in about 1,240 people, but only a few were
20:04strong. And even those, the team did not consider convincing evidence of close genealogical relationship.
20:11Can you imagine how tempting the next step is here? To find a family that has a story about an
20:16ancestor who went to India, and then compare it with documents and dates. That would already be the
20:21beginning of a biography, not just another theory made up. But no such result was announced, and a
20:28small genetic fragment by itself does not turn into a person's name. At the same time, the geographical
20:33clue remains. For the Mediterranean group, the most significant connections are again in Greater Greece and Crete.
20:39The new comparison supported the previous direction of the search, but it did not explain why people went
20:45to the mountains. And not finding a relative does not mean that the deceased had no family left.
20:50The huge database still doesn't contain everyone on Earth, so we still don't know our travelers' last
20:55names. But here it's especially clear what we expect from genetics. We don't just want to learn where
21:01they came from. We want to get a whole story with a beginning, a journey, and an ending. For that,
21:06one analysis is not enough. And some of the necessary clues could have been literally right
21:11next to the bones all this time. Among 11 million people, genetic matches were found. But why don't
21:18we know their names yet? The answer will make you angry. Because the crime scene was turned into a
21:25circus. How tourists destroyed the main evidence of the century. And here we come to the details that
21:31irritate researchers more than any unsolved theories. Imagine a crime scene where evidence
21:37of incredible importance is lying around. And now imagine that for 70 years, tourists have been
21:44allowed in there without any control. For a long time, Rupkund was open to anyone. Travelers and bloggers
21:51carried skulls around for dramatic shots, stacked bones into pyramids, and the most enterprising ones
21:56pocketed artifacts as souvenirs. Because of this, today we have a huge mess of bones. The position
22:02of the body at the place of death tells forensic experts almost more than the skull itself how the
22:07person fell, whether they tried to shield themselves with their hands, whether they were lying next to
22:12their companion or died alone. When tourists moved the bones, they erased the context. Add to this avalanches,
22:20spring glacier melt, and rockfalls that have ground up the remains and bones for decades. It is quite
22:25possible that the answer to why the Greeks came to the pass might have been a wooden box, a fragment
22:31of a scroll, or a seal lying right on the lakeshore. But someone simply threw this clue into the abyss
22:38to get a better photo angle. So what exactly happened at Lake Rupkund? Today we can finally put this puzzle
22:46together without any mysticism. Rupkund is not the site of a grand battle, nor is it the punishment of an
22:53angry goddess. It's a deadly trap spanning centuries. A thousand years ago, a procession of Indian
22:59pilgrims really did come here, and some of them were caught by a sudden storm and a rock fall. And
23:04ten centuries later, during the era of the great game between the British and Russian empires,
23:09a mysterious group from the Mediterranean climbed this same pass. A secret expedition of surveyors,
23:15mercenaries, mercenaries, or explorers, whose documents were lost in the ice. The mountain
23:20spared neither one nor the other. The eternal cold mingled their bones in a single mass grave,
23:25leaving scientists puzzled for half a century. And the main question now sounds different. Not what
23:31killed them, but what secret they were seeking here. And which theory seems the most plausible to you?
23:37What were 19th century Europeans doing on a closed Himalayan pass? A secret expedition? Lost merchants?
23:45Or something that science is still silent about? Write your thoughts in the comments right now.
23:50Like and subscribe. Alexander signing off. See you next time.