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00:08Субтитры делал DimaTorzok
00:30Москва reportedly sent a letter to the Western Alliance
00:32that it is prepared to deploy its nuclear arsenal
00:35if its territory comes under attack,
00:38which is spoke at the Euronews Defense and Space Summit in Brussels.
00:43The United States has urged European countries
00:45to release more emergency oil reserves
00:48to curb soaring energy prices.
00:50Meanwhile, the Trump administration is considering
00:53a 90-day diesel export ban
00:55in an effort to contain domestic fuel prices
00:58ahead of November's midterm elections.
01:01And the Spanish government has ordered the military
01:04to investigate claims its soldiers maltreated migrants in Ceuta.
01:09This was Madrid's response to a report by Amnesty International.
01:14The organization had gathered dozens of testimonies
01:16blaming soldiers for beatings, harassment,
01:20humiliations or theft of money.
01:22Welcome to the program. I'm Stefan Grober.
01:25Europe is facing its most serious security challenge in decades.
01:30From Russia's war in Ukraine to drones, sabotage and hybrid attacks
01:35increasingly testing NATO's eastern flank.
01:38Against that backdrop, NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte
01:41came to the Euronews Defense and Space Summit in Brussels
01:44with a clear message, NATO is ready, united and prepared
01:49to defend every inch of allied territory.
01:52But as Moscow issues fresh nuclear warnings
01:56and pressure grows on Europe to do more for its own defense,
01:59the questions are becoming harder to ignore.
02:02How far could this confrontation go?
02:05And how much more must Europe do to protect itself?
02:08At our defense summit, Mark Rutte addressed those questions
02:12and talked about that strange letter that Moscow sent NATO.
02:17From Russia with love.
02:19What was exactly in a Russian letter, I think it's up to them to disclose.
02:23Putin knows that he can never win from NATO.
02:26So I don't take this that serious.
02:28But of course, we had to reply and make clear to him
02:30that NATO is a defensive alliance, as I said,
02:33and stop the war in Ukraine and stop the nuclear threats
02:36because it's not helpful.
02:38And NATO is so much stronger than Russia is.
02:40So there's no way they can ever beat us.
02:42There's a lot of frenzy around the situation in the Baltics
02:45and a security scenario that has or seems to have deteriorated
02:48over the past three weeks.
02:50What are the scenarios you're preparing for?
02:5243,000 Russians killed or seriously wounded a month now in Ukraine.
02:57Ukraine holding the front line,
02:59doing much better than only a half year or a year ago,
03:01striking deep inside Russia.
03:05Allies supporting Ukraine in terms of weapons delivery, etc.
03:08So this is the picture.
03:10So Putin is not winning this.
03:12So let's assume that he is a bit worried and a bit rattled.
03:16And I think the best way to deal with this
03:19is to have a little bit of calm here.
03:22What Putin tries to do, don't forget,
03:25by these letters and these hybrids, grey zone activities,
03:30is he tries to divide us and lose the focus on Ukraine.
03:34We will not.
03:35So every hybrid, whatever happens in Europe,
03:39will be met with more support for Ukraine,
03:41not less support for Ukraine.
03:42That's the message.
03:43Should we just take away from this conversation
03:45that regardless of the letters,
03:48the trip of a CIA, top officer or not,
03:51nothing has changed.
03:52And even if Russia was planning to do something,
03:55Europe prepared for it,
03:56and this is NATO territory, will be protected.
03:58There is no imminent threat to NATO territory.
04:02If there is a built up,
04:03we will see it and we will deal with it.
04:05If anything happens otherwise,
04:07we will also deal with it
04:09because we have prepared and trained for this.
04:10And we have to be clear-eyed.
04:12Russia is not doing well in Ukraine.
04:14And this is all about that.
04:16And every minute we spend on this
04:19is exactly what Putin loves us to do,
04:21being rattled and talking about,
04:23oh, what's happening here, what's happening there.
04:25Calm.
04:25We are stronger.
04:27Carry on.
04:27Keep on investing.
04:29And most of us, most of all,
04:30make sure that Ukraine has what it needs
04:32to stay in the fight.
04:33How much of a problem is the war in Iran
04:35when it comes to the situation in Ukraine?
04:37Yeah, but let's also assess.
04:38And here we might not all of us agree
04:40that it was only the United States
04:43which was capable of taking out
04:45the nuclear capability of Iran,
04:47which was a threat potentially soon,
04:49not only for Israel in the Middle East,
04:51but also for us here.
04:52You really believe that?
04:53In Brussels.
04:53You absolutely believe that, yes.
04:55So the American president taking out that threat,
04:58degrading that capability is crucial.
05:00And of course,
05:01everywhere also has its downsides.
05:03That's clear.
05:04But I'm looking at the upsides here.
05:06And by the way,
05:07with all the extra investments
05:08European countries are now making
05:10in their defense,
05:12this 3.5% leading to the 5%
05:14overall defense spending,
05:15this will lead to a situation
05:17where in the future,
05:18this stronger Europe and a stronger NATO,
05:20where the Europeans will be able
05:21to take care of their backyard themselves.
05:23It should be us doing this,
05:24not the Americans.
05:25But do you worry about the ramifications
05:27and the energy market?
05:28I mean, there are always downsides.
05:29There are always downsides
05:30when war breaks out.
05:31That's clear.
05:32But, hey, let's face it.
05:34Europe was not able to take out
05:35the nuclear capability of Iran.
05:36We couldn't.
05:37We didn't have the capabilities.
05:38In 10 years, we can and we should.
05:40It should not be the Americans doing it.
05:41It should us be doing it.
05:42It should also us be taking care
05:44of the Houthis in the Red Sea
05:45and not the Americans.
05:47But, hey, of course,
05:49there are always ramifications,
05:50but the ramifications start
05:51from a premise that it is good
05:53that the Americans did this.
05:54And I'm one believing
05:55that it was absolutely essential
05:57for the Americans to take on Iran.
05:59And do you believe
06:00the vast majority of the alliance
06:02agrees with your assessment?
06:03No, I don't think so,
06:04but that doesn't care.
06:05I don't care.
06:06You asked me on my opinion.
06:07Let's be honest.
06:08The war is not popular in Europe.
06:10I take all those comments
06:11very seriously,
06:11but what I'm telling you
06:13is that the nuclear capability
06:15of Iran, in my assessment,
06:16is a direct threat,
06:17not only to the Middle East,
06:18but also to Europe,
06:19that it was only the United States
06:21which was able to degrade it.
06:22Yes, when you have a war like this,
06:24that will have also
06:25negative consequences,
06:26but you have to take them
06:27into account.
06:27How is the atmosphere
06:29in the alliance at this point?
06:31It's great.
06:31It's the best it has ever been
06:33because you have now a Europe
06:35which is taking responsibility
06:37for its own defense.
06:38President Trump loves NATO.
06:40He only hated one element,
06:42which was the fact
06:43that we were not spending enough.
06:44And Secretary General,
06:45just a final question.
06:47What do you think NATO 3.0 means?
06:50The problem was
06:51that NATO was not sustainable.
06:53It is not sustainable
06:54that you have a country,
06:55in the United States,
06:56being overly responsible
06:58for the defense
06:59of 600 million Europeans.
07:00The problem was
07:01there was a total lack
07:04of equality
07:06in terms of spending.
07:07That's now being redressed,
07:08not only because Trump wants this,
07:10but also because
07:11we have to spend much more
07:12in Europe
07:12to be able to defend ourselves
07:14against the Russians.
07:18NATO Secretary General,
07:20Mark Rutte,
07:21there speaking
07:21to our own Maria Taddeo.
07:23Now I'm joined
07:24in the studio
07:25by our NATO correspondent
07:27Shona Mori.
07:28Good morning, Shona.
07:29Well, that was quite a lineup
07:31at the Euronews Defense Summit.
07:33You were heavily involved
07:34with interviews
07:35and roundtables.
07:37Tell us about
07:39the atmosphere
07:39in the room.
07:40What were your biggest
07:41impressions?
07:42Well, I mean,
07:42it was heavily subscribed
07:43because defense
07:45is really the key issue
07:46in Europe at the moment.
07:47So we had,
07:48for example,
07:49the EU Commissioner
07:49for Defense,
07:50the EU Commissioner
07:51for Technology.
07:51We had Sean Clancy,
07:53who's the chair
07:54of the EU Military Committee.
07:56And the engagement
07:57was really important
07:59because we had,
08:00obviously,
08:00issues around hybrid threat,
08:02threat of Moscow,
08:04and also issues
08:05around the scarcity
08:06of interceptors
08:07because we know
08:08that that is a real problem
08:09across not just NATO,
08:10but across the world as well.
08:11So those issues
08:12were very much
08:13on the agenda.
08:14I think it was very interesting
08:15to hear from Mark Rutte there
08:16saying that there's
08:17no immediate threat
08:18to NATO territory,
08:19but I suppose
08:20that he would also
08:21make the point
08:21that that's because
08:22NATO has ramped up
08:23its defenses.
08:25At the same time,
08:26ask the Baltics
08:27what their view is
08:28because we're seeing
08:29on a weekly basis
08:30drones with often
08:31military payloads
08:33coming into Polish,
08:35Lithuanian,
08:35Finnish territory
08:36often have to be
08:37shot down,
08:38scrambled.
08:38We've seen arson,
08:39sabotage attacks.
08:40So there is
08:41sort of a disconnection
08:43there,
08:44it seems,
08:44a little bit.
08:45Right.
08:46There were a lot
08:47of top speakers.
08:48You mentioned
08:48some of them.
08:49I agree.
08:51I think one of them
08:52stood out
08:53and that was
08:53the defense minister
08:54of Belgium,
08:55Theo Franken.
08:57Why?
08:57Because of his bluntness,
08:59especially when he was
09:01asked about
09:02what is Belgium's
09:03biggest threat
09:04right now.
09:05Let's take a listen
09:06to what he said.
09:07Russia.
09:08Air attack,
09:09air attack,
09:09air attack.
09:11So this is the
09:12biggest threat.
09:13So we need
09:14air defense,
09:15air defense,
09:16air defense.
09:17So yes,
09:17we need really
09:19air defense.
09:20We need to scale up
09:20our air defenses.
09:21We need to have
09:23more stocks,
09:24more production,
09:25scale up production,
09:26industrial base,
09:27and large industrial
09:28base.
09:29Everything has to
09:30go faster.
09:31And then again,
09:32hybrid threat,
09:33of course.
09:33There will be more
09:34hybrid threat actions
09:35in the next
09:36coming months.
09:37It will be a dark
09:38winter for Europe.
09:39Let's talk about
09:40the hybrid threats.
09:41Rewind 12 months ago,
09:43Belgium was seemingly
09:44inundated with drones.
09:46There were some
09:47unmanned aerial vehicles
09:48seen spotted flying
09:49near military assets.
09:51Their airports were
09:51ground to a halt.
09:53But it's my understanding
09:54that the Belgian
09:55Federal Prosecutor's
09:56Office is still
09:56determining roughly
09:58where 40 of these
09:59drones come from.
10:00What conclusion
10:01do you draw
10:02from this incident?
10:02Who is to blame here?
10:04That is the definition
10:05of hybrid warfare.
10:07It's very difficult
10:08to find the actor
10:09when you don't find
10:09the instrument,
10:11the drone,
10:11or the pilot
10:12who is doing this.
10:14It's really difficult
10:14to have the proof.
10:16They're very,
10:17very smart.
10:17Hybrid warfare
10:18is not something
10:19that Russia is starting
10:20since two or three years.
10:22They're doing this
10:23for 50 years.
10:24This is something
10:25that Putin was
10:26really very good at.
10:29So yeah,
10:29this is something
10:30that they have a lot
10:31of expertise
10:32in hybrid warfare.
10:33Absolutely.
10:33So just speaking
10:34on drones once again,
10:36in a wide-ranging interview
10:37with the Flemish
10:37broadcaster VRT,
10:39Robert Brovdy,
10:40who heads up
10:40Ukraine's
10:41drone defence department,
10:43he told Belgium
10:44to take off
10:45its, quote,
10:46rose-tinted glasses
10:47and that Belgium,
10:48because it hosts NATO,
10:50the EU institutions,
10:52and Euroclear,
10:53which is the financial
10:53institution that
10:54holds a big chunk
10:56of Russia's
10:57immobilised assets,
10:58this is what makes
10:59Belgium vulnerable.
11:01Do you think
11:01that you're doing
11:02enough to protect
11:03the country
11:03from these incursions?
11:04Do you share
11:05his assessment?
11:06So yes,
11:07we were the first,
11:08the worst pupil
11:08of NATO class.
11:09Now Belgium
11:10is back again,
11:11but it takes time.
11:12So I need time.
11:13I'm working 24-7,
11:15like everybody,
11:16every defence minister
11:17for the moment.
11:18but yeah,
11:19I think that's,
11:20it's going in the
11:21right direction.
11:22Have we already
11:25all the capabilities
11:25that I want to have?
11:28No.
11:28It takes time,
11:29also,
11:29industry cannot follow.
11:31When I'm buying Patriots,
11:33I have to wait 10 years
11:34to get them,
11:34so it is,
11:36we're in a very
11:37difficult position
11:39at this moment.
11:41Europe has been
11:42very good
11:43in investing
11:44in soft power,
11:45in social security,
11:46and it's beautiful
11:47to have a pension system,
11:48to have social welfare systems.
11:50When somebody gets sick,
11:52when somebody's
11:52lost his job,
11:54we have everything.
11:55But when there's war
11:57or when there's
11:58hybrid threats,
11:59we don't,
11:59we have anything.
12:01So yeah,
12:02we were in a
12:02really difficult position
12:03and Belgium was
12:04a really bad pupil
12:05in the past,
12:06but trying to step up,
12:07we have a stable government
12:09and trying to do
12:10what we need to do.
12:11Yeah.
12:14Well,
12:15Belgium trying to do
12:16what it needs to do.
12:18That was the Belgian
12:19defense minister,
12:20Theo Franken.
12:21Another speaker
12:22who I thought
12:23was very impressive
12:24was Bulgaria's
12:25prime minister,
12:26Ruman Radev.
12:27Let's listen
12:28to what he said.
12:30Bulgaria is
12:31a strong,
12:32strong participant
12:34in strengthening
12:35the deterrence
12:36and defense
12:37on the eastern flank.
12:38Each member state
12:39on the eastern flank
12:41must do this
12:41and not only
12:42on the eastern flank.
12:43Now we have
12:44seven nations
12:45in the multinational
12:46battalion
12:47settled in Bulgaria.
12:48You mentioned
12:49hybrid warfare
12:50with drones.
12:51It is extremely
12:52difficult
12:53to counter
12:54these drones.
12:56Why?
12:56It is extremely
12:57difficult to detect them.
12:58They fly low,
13:00they use
13:01non-metal materials,
13:02it is extremely
13:03difficult to detect
13:05on the radars.
13:06So,
13:07if you apply
13:08anti-drone systems,
13:10they need to be
13:11very,
13:12very congested
13:13on your boiler.
13:14That means
13:14a lot,
13:16a lot,
13:17a huge number
13:18of such systems
13:19and their integration
13:21and this is a huge
13:22technical challenge
13:23to all of us.
13:25And that's why
13:26we need
13:27to think
13:27as soon as possible
13:29to put this
13:30war to an end.
13:32And I'm afraid,
13:34like President Zelensky,
13:36for the winter
13:37approaching Ukraine,
13:38again,
13:39devastating energy system,
13:41transportation,
13:42industry,
13:44defense industry,
13:46warehouses.
13:47And we are
13:48suffering from this
13:49because
13:49the freedom
13:51of navigation
13:52in the Black Sea
13:53has...
13:54It's over.
13:55It's over.
13:56And
13:57the
13:58insurance companies,
14:00they don't like
14:01anymore
14:01to insure
14:03the ships
14:04and this
14:04influence
14:05the transport
14:06system of
14:07all the
14:08Black Sea
14:09countries around.
14:10this is a huge
14:11impact on our
14:12economies.
14:13Made in Europe
14:14and, again,
14:15this clear European
14:16preference.
14:16The U.S. ambassador
14:17was right here
14:18just a few hours ago
14:18saying it is clear
14:20the new instruments
14:21that the EU
14:22is creating
14:23are looking to limit
14:24the U.S. participation.
14:26This is also coming
14:27at a time
14:27in which
14:28multiple European leaders
14:29would question
14:30whether or not
14:31President Trump
14:31is an ally
14:32of the EU.
14:33Are you in favor
14:33of legislating
14:34in this way?
14:35We cannot
14:37immediately
14:38guarantee
14:40our security
14:41by ourselves.
14:42Even talking about
14:43the nuclear shield,
14:45we cannot go
14:46without the United
14:47States of America
14:48because they
14:48provide the
14:50essence of the
14:51core defense
14:52capabilities in NATO.
14:53It is absolutely
14:55clear.
14:56It will take
14:57time for us
14:59to recover,
15:00to renovate
15:02our industries,
15:03our industrial
15:04base,
15:05our technology
15:06development.
15:06Should Ukraine
15:07be a core part
15:08of it?
15:08We heard from
15:09the Ukrainians
15:10saying the
15:10Europeans will
15:11need us more
15:11than at this
15:12point we need
15:12them on the
15:13technology advancement.
15:14Should we get
15:14them in this
15:15context?
15:15Ukraine has
15:17been already
15:18a part of this.
15:19Ukraine has
15:20been sharing
15:22latest
15:23state-of-the-art
15:24drone technologies
15:25they have
15:25developed
15:26through
15:26experimenting
15:27them every
15:28day on the
15:29front line.
15:32Yeah,
15:33and finally,
15:33Shona,
15:34you interviewed
15:35the U.S.
15:36ambassador to
15:36NATO,
15:37Matthew
15:37Whittaker,
15:38a close ally
15:39of President
15:40Trump.
15:42And if we
15:43say that
15:44Trump is
15:45critical towards
15:46the European
15:46Union,
15:47that would be
15:47an understatement,
15:48as we all
15:50know.
15:50now listen to
15:52what Whittaker
15:52said at the
15:53summit.
15:54Typically,
15:55these hybrid
15:55actions,
15:56as they're
15:57happening or
15:58after they
15:59happen,
15:59can't be
16:00determined who
16:01is behind it.
16:02That only comes
16:03through investigation
16:04by oftentimes
16:06law enforcement
16:06and judicial
16:07processes,
16:08together with
16:10intelligence
16:12agencies working
16:13together.
16:13And at the
16:14same time,
16:14we're coordinating
16:15with allies and
16:17coordinating with
16:17NATO.
16:18and we were
16:18talking about
16:19it at the
16:20table at the
16:20NAC.
16:21So I think
16:22that is right
16:23now a pretty
16:24good model for
16:26how to address
16:27these.
16:28And, you
16:29know, everyone
16:30wants sort of
16:32some line in
16:32the sand that
16:33says, if this
16:34happens, then
16:35sort of that
16:36means we invoke
16:37Article 5.
16:38But, you know,
16:39Article 5 is
16:40really ultimately
16:41intentionally vague.
16:42But the bottom
16:43line is, let's
16:44ask why.
16:45Why is this
16:45happening?
16:46It's happening
16:47mainly to
16:48deter NATO
16:50and allies
16:51from supporting
16:53Ukraine, from,
16:54you know,
16:55supporting other
16:55efforts that the
16:57allies and
16:58members of the
16:59alliance want
17:00to support.
17:01And so, you
17:02know, that just
17:02means we should
17:02lean in more
17:03as to what we're
17:04doing.
17:04We should not
17:05be deterred.
17:06And I also
17:07think it just
17:07means we need
17:08to invest.
17:09The reason
17:09that we made
17:10the 5%
17:11commitment at
17:12The Hague
17:13was in
17:14addition to,
17:14you know,
17:15hard military
17:16power, we
17:17also identified
17:18the need for
17:19resilience.
17:20In the next
17:20few months,
17:20we'll hear the
17:21results of the
17:22U.S.
17:24force posture
17:25review due by
17:27December, we
17:27believe.
17:28But we've heard
17:28some leaks that
17:29it could be as
17:30many as 25,000
17:31to 40,000 troops
17:32withdrawn from
17:33NATO territory.
17:34Can you give us
17:35a bit of clarity
17:35about that?
17:36We have
17:36reaffirmed over
17:37and over the
17:38nuclear umbrella
17:39that we provide
17:40to NATO and
17:41our allies.
17:41We have
17:43continued to
17:43say that
17:44we're going
17:44to stay
17:45engaged in
17:45Europe.
17:46This is a
17:46not only is
17:47it a forced
17:48posture review,
17:50it is also a
17:51forced posture
17:51in basing
17:52review.
17:52And so we're
17:53looking at the
17:54issues about
17:55access basing
17:56and overflight,
17:57some of which
17:58were a little
17:58clunky during
18:00Epic Fury.
18:01So, I mean,
18:01there's a lot
18:02going on right
18:02now to make
18:04sure that
18:06importantly,
18:06in an
18:07America first,
18:08you know,
18:08sort of from a
18:09U.S.
18:10ambassador's
18:10standpoint,
18:11America first
18:12means that we
18:13look at it
18:13from what's
18:14in the interest
18:15of the United
18:16States of
18:16America and
18:17its people
18:17and its
18:17taxpayers.
18:18And so we
18:19are doing
18:19that right
18:19now.
18:20We're saying,
18:20you know,
18:21what is the
18:22value of
18:23our basing?
18:24Is it what
18:25we thought it
18:25was?
18:26And we're
18:26just doing
18:27a very kind
18:28of mathematical,
18:29mechanical analysis
18:32of how we're
18:33laid down
18:34globally because
18:35we have to
18:35address global
18:36challenges.
18:37Our allies
18:38expect that out
18:39of us to be
18:39able to do
18:40that.
18:44All right,
18:45Shauna,
18:45so we had
18:45Franken,
18:46Radev,
18:47Whittaker,
18:47who was your
18:47favorite?
18:48Oh,
18:48obviously,
18:49Matthew Whittaker
18:50was my
18:51one that was
18:52interested in
18:52most.
18:53I know,
18:53they're all
18:53very good.
18:53I think there
18:54was a few
18:54things that
18:54we can point
18:55out.
18:55The first
18:55thing from
18:57the Belgian
18:57defence
18:58minister,
18:59air defence,
18:59air defence,
18:59air defence,
19:00the scarcity
19:01of air
19:01defence globally,
19:02mainly as a
19:03result of the
19:03United States
19:04burning through
19:04its stockpile
19:05because of the
19:06war in Iran,
19:07but also Ukraine
19:07is therefore
19:08suffering,
19:09as we know
19:10day to day
19:10by these air
19:11attacks,
19:12drone attacks,
19:13ballistic missile
19:14attacks from
19:15Russia.
19:15That's a real
19:16problem.
19:16At the summit
19:17yesterday,
19:17we did have an
19:18amazing moment
19:18from Firepoint,
19:19which is a
19:19Ukrainian
19:21organisation that's
19:21trying to create
19:22their own
19:23Ukrainian-made air
19:24defence
19:25interceptors,
19:26but that won't
19:26be on the
19:26market for
19:27another year
19:27or so.
19:28The other
19:28piece is I
19:29think there's
19:29a lack of
19:30consensus about
19:31how NATO
19:31should respond
19:32to these
19:33below-threshold
19:34hybrid attacks
19:35that we're
19:35seeing.
19:35The Baltics
19:36much more
19:36confrontational
19:37about it.
19:38The United
19:38States,
19:39Mark Rutte
19:39saying less
19:40so.
19:40Right,
19:41lack of
19:41consensus
19:41also about
19:42the nuclear
19:43threat.
19:43So Mark
19:44Rutte was
19:45very clear,
19:46there is no
19:47real threat,
19:47but the
19:49Bulgarians
19:49had a
19:50difference.
19:51definitely
19:51intimidated by
19:52this nuclear
19:52threat from
19:53Moscow.
19:54And of
19:54course,
19:54Matthew
19:54Whitaker
19:55then not
19:55being too
19:56clear about
19:57what's going
19:57to happen
19:58in relation
19:58to US
19:59troops in
19:59Asia
19:59territory.
20:00All right,
20:01Shona,
20:01thank you so
20:01much for
20:02coming on
20:02this morning
20:03and that
20:03does it
20:03for us
20:04today.
20:05Thank you
20:05for watching.
20:06I'm
20:06Stefan Grobe
20:07and I
20:08see you
20:08tomorrow.