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00:08Hola y bienvenidos a The Ring, Euronews's weekly debating show,
00:13broadcasting to you live from the Albert Hall as part of Euronews's Tourism Summit.
00:18I'm Maeve McMahon, thank you so much for joining us
00:21and this very special edition, of course, with our live studio audience.
00:25In this very special episode, we'll be zooming into the topic of tourism across Europe
00:31and asking how it's affecting locals.
00:33We'll be checking if the EU has a role in trying to square that circle of the continent's worrying housing
00:39crisis.
00:40A warm welcome to our guests for this edition.
00:43Regina Doherty, Irish member of the European Parliament,
00:46a member of the European People's Party in the European Parliament
00:50and also a special committee member of the housing crisis in the European Union.
00:55We're also joined by Sergio González, a Portuguese Socialist MEP from Madeira,
01:00a member of the European Parliament's Transport and Crucial Tourism Committee.
01:05So, Regina Doherty and Sergio González, welcome to The Ring.
01:16So, Regina, let's start with you.
01:19Europe wants more tourists, right?
01:20But Europeans also want more homes.
01:23Can we have both?
01:24I think absolutely we can.
01:26I think the volume of tourism that we have seen increased and it's significant over the last number of years
01:32has obviously caused some pinch points, but it isn't the reason we have a housing emergency.
01:37The fact that we're not building enough houses is the reason we have a housing emergency.
01:41And so, when I look at tourism and I look at how reliant some of our countries are on it
01:45and some of the regions within those countries, I think we need to fix the problems that arise specifically from
01:51that
01:51and not then try and actually blame something that is a positive for all of our nations or most of
01:56our nations.
01:57Sergio González, what would be your view there?
01:59According to Regina Doherty, it's not the tourism that's causing the housing problem,
02:03it is the lack of actual infrastructure.
02:05What's your view?
02:05Yes, actually, we've seen it on my island, on my region, as you can understand.
02:11Tourism has a big impact on the island.
02:14It's our largest industry, so to say.
02:17And we haven't built enough houses to meet demands over the past two or three decades.
02:27So, now we really need more houses in the market.
02:31We need an affordable housing plan like the European Commission presented.
02:37And we need to do something to balance tourism with people living in the islands.
02:45But when it comes to actual dwellings itself, according to studies,
02:48there are millions of empty dwellings in cities and rural towns across Europe.
02:52They're just lying empty, Regina Doherty.
02:54So, when I look at this issue, as we have done over the last 20 months in the Housing Committee,
02:58and we've visited a number of countries to reflect on the different reasons why we're experiencing the problem,
03:04but ultimately the outcome for most of us is exactly the same.
03:06We have too few houses and the ones that we have being built are far too expensive.
03:10The housing stock across Europe, of which short-term lets obviously does feature,
03:16is 1.2% of the housing stock.
03:18The vacant stock across Europe is nearly 20%.
03:22And so, that's why I think I get frustrated when I see the Affordable Housing Act's very first legislative proposal
03:28is tinkering around recommendations for Airbnb or short-term lets
03:32that our municipalities, our local governments, our national governments could already have done if they wanted to do so.
03:38But even with this act, when it passes, won't compel anybody to do anything.
03:42So, it's not going to build a single house.
03:44And I'm just frustrated, having worked so long with everybody accepting and acknowledging
03:48we know what the crisis is and how much of an emergency it is,
03:52that this is the first reaction of the Commission.
03:54And, like, it's not to be critical, but I am genuinely frustrated,
03:58particularly when there are issues that are under the control and the regulation and the directives
04:04of the Commission, of the Parliament, where we could actually amend simplified change
04:08that would have an impactful outcome as opposed to tinkering around the edges with recommendations.
04:13And that just frustrates me.
04:14And I know I appreciate we're here to talk about tourism today.
04:17And obviously, short-term lets has a positive impact on it
04:20and a negative, necessarily, impact on housing.
04:22Well, it's interesting, the topic of housing is dominating the Transport and Tourism Committee meetings
04:26as we speak right now in the European Parliament.
04:29And, of course, it's already one year since Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission President,
04:33declared this housing emergency as a social crisis that we're dealing with right here.
04:37Well, I think that we need to look into funding for new houses.
04:43And there is some, well, the signals that the Commission presents are not on the right direction.
04:51If we need specific measures to implement on specific regions, we need funding.
04:58We need the regions to participate in defining the priorities, defining the programs, implementing those programs.
05:06So where does that funding come from?
05:07In the Commission proposal for the next MFF, for example, because we need to discuss budget.
05:12If we're discussing funding, we need to discuss the next multi-annual framework.
05:16So we see a centralized model that takes from regional and local authorities the ability to do it.
05:24So I think that's the first big change we need to apply in the negotiations over the next months
05:33so that we allow regional authorities, local authorities, to implement political measures to solve this problem
05:42and to build more houses, to bring more houses into the markets.
05:45We've been blaming short-term rentals, but short-term rentals have had a positive impact,
05:51not only on income for some families, but also in renovating, in rehabilitation of city centers,
05:59many buildings that were obsolete, that were closed, and now they have an economic use and utility.
06:08So it's not to blame short-term rentals.
06:13It also has a problem in inflation.
06:17The prices of housing have increased because you also have less stock if you have some of the houses in
06:24the short-term rental market.
06:25That's obvious, but that's not the only reason.
06:28We haven't built houses.
06:29We don't have programs or financing for building new houses.
06:34And people are looking for answers now.
06:36I don't know if you noticed, but just this very week, as we're here in Albert Hall, in Brussels, discussing
06:41this very issue,
06:42thousands of people have been taking to the streets of Madrid.
06:45In fact, many have been camping out overnight, drawing attention to the fact that the situation in Spain is worsening
06:52by day and by night.
06:53They're camping out by the Puerta del Sol.
06:55It seems a little bit similar to the Indignados movement, Regina Dari, that we saw many years ago.
07:00So I think just watching Spain this morning and now the decision of the government to actually potentially ban evictions
07:06for a three-year period is a direct response of the inaction that we've seen by governments arising from something
07:13that we all have called a crisis for a number of years.
07:16I don't think there's a single country in Europe that isn't suffering from not enough houses being built, and there's
07:21a whole load of reasons for that.
07:23But even the ones that are being built for them being far too expensive for our young people to be
07:26able to be afforded.
07:27We know that with people who have long-term rentals don't have the same security of tenure that they do
07:32in other countries.
07:33But these are things to be fixed by national parliaments.
07:36And I think maybe some have been more active in doing so, some less so, as you can see from
07:40Spain today.
07:40But none of that is going to be directed from a European Commission.
07:43And as Sergio said, if times were normal, we would be having a conversation as to how much of the
07:48MFF is going to be aligned for social cohesion to build houses, particularly social and affordable houses, for all of
07:54our citizens.
07:55But as we all know, we're having an entirely different conversation as to how we're going to get a smaller
07:59budget to stretch much farther for things like defence and security.
08:02And housing is going to form part of a smaller budget, and people can decide what they want to do
08:07with themselves.
08:07That's not instructive, and that's not really leadership and showing guidance, I think.
08:11And when it comes to these short-term rentals, do we need a proper definition for what they are?
08:17Well, I think the definition exists, but the thing is, or the issue is, that it affects different regions, different
08:25cities in a different way.
08:28Not all regions, not all member states are the same.
08:31Are you in favour of them?
08:32I'm from Madera Island. Tourism is important.
08:34As I mentioned before, we're not in the same stage as Spain at the moment, having public demonstrations against tourism.
08:47But how do your voters feel about the short-term rentals?
08:49If you look at the recent survey, 90% of Madeirians think tourism is positive, and it's important for the
08:56island and for the economy.
08:57But 54% of them consider that we have over-tourism at the moment at the island.
09:02And this is changing.
09:03We're famous for our hospitality, for promoting the island, for enjoying having tourists on the island and welcoming them.
09:15But now there is this feeling that we already have over-tourism, and it also has to do with social
09:20issues, with the lack of housing and the lack of measures to build houses.
09:25And as Regina just mentioned, we're building new houses, but the prices are not affordable for locals.
09:32So it's impossible to compete when we're building houses.
09:35And then we have, for example, American tourists buying those houses, and not locals, young people.
09:41There is no social housing.
09:43A few 600 houses have been built over the last three years, also with the IRF funding.
09:51Otherwise, we wouldn't have them.
09:52And that's Madera, the situation very serious as well in Lisbon, with locals being pushed out there, you know, with
09:57the tax breaks.
09:58It's exactly the same situation.
09:59The municipalities and the mayors have implemented some measures, and I think that's something positive out of the European affordable
10:07housing plan and the act that followed,
10:10that the European Commission understands that some decisions have to be made at local and regional level because it's their
10:17competence and they are able to do it.
10:20We need more data.
10:22We need specific data on the problem because it's different, as I mentioned in the beginning,
10:29not all regions are the same, and this doesn't impact all regions the same way.
10:35And to gather data, a good point, we've seen Croatia implemented its Tourism Act in order to be able to
10:39measure the impact, of course,
10:41this over-tourism is having on their environment and on sustainability.
10:44Is that something you'd like to see all over the view?
10:47I think, you see, again, different regions are experiencing different issues.
10:50And so it's really understandable when I hear Sergio saying that there's young people in his area who obviously welcome
10:56tourists,
10:56but are frustrated about the fact that there's houses being rented out and they don't have the houses to be
11:02able to buy themselves.
11:03If there were houses being built in Madeira, in Portugal, in excess of what's needed for the tourism industry, we
11:07wouldn't be having this conversation.
11:08If there was enough houses being built in Ireland, as there should be more being built, I probably wouldn't be
11:13here having this conversation.
11:14We wouldn't have a housing committee.
11:15But now I've seen you've both got warmed up, you've got plenty to say.
11:18We'll just take a little break.
11:24As always, we want to give our viewers a real glimpse, as I said, inside the hemicycle
11:29and see how you actually point at each other, ask each other questions, sometimes upset each other.
11:34That's exactly what you do.
11:36Sergio, would you like to kick off, please, with your first question for Regina Daugherty?
11:39Well, I would ask a question regarding your political family, PP.
11:46So, you've been arguing that you should spend more on competitiveness, on defense,
11:52while also opposing to new resources and shifting funding away from social priorities.
12:01You have been a former minister, and specifically for social protection.
12:07Is this something that you envision, envisaged for the next MFF, this shift and the different priorities
12:16that we have at this moment that are harming social priorities and taking funding away from them?
12:23So, it's a very good question.
12:24And you obviously, even though we've only met today, you know me so well.
12:27I am a former social affairs minister in Ireland for five years.
12:31The particular issues, and particularly the pillar of social rights, is incredibly important to me.
12:36But these things don't happen by accident.
12:38They happen with money.
12:38They happen with targets.
12:40They happen with ring-fenced money.
12:42And as you're aware, and I'm sure this happens in other parties too,
12:45I find myself on the opposite side to my party with a lot of these social issues.
12:50And I really believe we can actually have competitiveness and investment
12:53by also investing in our young people, by addressing the poverty gaps,
12:57by making sure that people have a roof over their head, somewhere to call home.
13:01They're not mutually exclusive.
13:02If we don't look after the young people today with a youth guarantee of 20 billion,
13:06we're going to have nobody in 20 years' time to pay the pensions of the people like me
13:09who will be retired in 20 years' time.
13:11And so, they're definitely not mutually exclusive.
13:13So, I'm not really probably answering the question except to say I do find myself
13:17not only trying to convince my EPP colleagues of the merits of supporting the social issues
13:22that I believe in, but then sometimes find myself voting against them,
13:26which I'm happy to do because I live with my own conscience
13:28and I really know what the right thing to do is.
13:30And do you lose friends because of it?
13:32Do you know, as you know what politics is like, sometimes you do,
13:35sometimes it'll last for a few days, sometimes it might last longer.
13:38But, you know what, doing the right thing, there's never a wrong time to do the right thing.
13:42So, that's just the way I feel about it.
13:43Okay, Regina.
13:44Sergio, you're, er, Regina, excuse me, your question now.
13:46My first question.
13:47So, because I've spent so much talking about the housing issue for the last couple of years,
13:52and I know you're not on the housing committee, so I'm sorry if I'm putting you on the spot.
13:55I put in 400 amendments to the housing report.
13:57I really felt that we put our heart and soul into recognising what the top maybe three or four issues,
14:04big ticket issues that the commission could do.
14:06And then the commissioner came out last week with the housing act that kind of tinkered around the edges.
14:10How do you think we can better work together as the centre group of parties
14:15to make sure we actually deliver a piece of legislation that's going to make sure it's easier to build, build,
14:20build,
14:21and not do the easy stuff first?
14:24Well, I think we share the frustration you mentioned being a member of the special committee on housing.
14:31I'm not on that committee, as you know, but we discussed it in the TREN committee on transport and tourism.
14:37And I totally agree that we need to do more.
14:40And this proposal from the commission lacks ambition.
14:43So we need specific funding for housing.
14:48We need the decentralised model on the MFF, as I mentioned, to allow regions and local authorities to participate
14:55and to define their own priorities on several issues, and social issues, of course, are one of them.
15:03I think there are some good signs in the act, for example, reducing complexity, cutting red tape, for example, with
15:14regards to state aid.
15:16So having the exemption for affordable housing, I think that's very important.
15:22But then we need, we cannot discuss this only focusing on tourism, specifically on short-term rentals, and on building
15:31more houses.
15:31For example, in my region, in Madalera, we need to look at the economy as a whole and the impact
15:41that tourism has
15:42and understand that if our main industry is tourism, tourism isn't known for paying high salaries compared to other industries.
15:52So we're stuck in a trap.
15:54So we also need to discuss the diversification of our economy, creating new jobs,
15:59betting on, for example, AI, new technologies, new jobs, qualified jobs with higher salaries,
16:08so that young people have the right to stay, and we also have a new strategy on the right to
16:12stay, presented by the Vice President Fito.
16:15So we need to look at all these strategies together in order to solve this.
16:20I think that if we are pro-Europeans, not only worried about our retirement, but with the future of the
16:28European Union,
16:29we need to stick together and to present amendments and to push the Commission, at least for being more ambitious.
16:38But then, we are talking about an emergency, a crisis.
16:42We all acknowledge, like in my own country, we need to be building 50,000 houses a year just to
16:47satisfy demand.
16:48We're only on 38,000, 39,000, so there still is barriers.
16:52And across the European Union, we're told we need to build millions of houses.
16:55And again, we know what the issues are from a European competency, what can actually be done to try and
17:01alleviate, simplify, put the financing on board.
17:04And you absolutely are right to acknowledge, and I apologise I didn't do it earlier on, the changing of the
17:07stay date rules is a game changer,
17:09particularly for municipalities to be able to afford to financially support social and affordable homes in our member states.
17:16But there is so much more to be done.
17:19And I think I'm just frustrated at the pace at which we're doing it.
17:23And I'm sure our viewers are too, especially those out protesting this week in Madrid,
17:27sleeping in tents, in fact, by the Puerto del Sol, very reminiscent of the days of the Indignado movement many,
17:33many years ago.
17:34But now we have heard from our MEPs, and I'd like to bring in another view.
17:42So for our quote of the week on this edition of The Ring, I'd like to bring in the voice
17:46of Eduardo Santander.
17:47He is the CEO of the European Travel Commission.
17:50He was speaking here live, and he had some very profound words.
17:54He said, climate change is the biggest threat to tourism.
17:57Right now, by far, he said, we see that trains cannot run sometimes because the rails are expanded because of
18:03the heat.
18:04And we saw this on the cruise lines because of the European rivers.
18:07They couldn't run because it was too dry.
18:09This is a topic that we have not touched on yet in this debate.
18:12This is a huge issue for you.
18:15It is.
18:15I have to give you a concrete example.
18:19I'm from an island.
18:21We have one airport.
18:22The second airport is on a second island on a two and a half hour distance by ferry.
18:29And we have lots of constraints at the airport due to the high winds that we get due to the
18:37global warming and climate change.
18:39And that is something that we need to find alternatives.
18:43I also believe that, and going slightly into a different subject, we have a strategy for the outermost regions,
18:53which I will also be the rapporteur for the parliament.
18:57And I think that we can take advantage of these regions as laboratories to test new technologies,
19:05to test new solutions that then we can export to the other member states.
19:10And it's something that we need to address.
19:13And just one example I didn't mention before with regards to housing,
19:17also having the one-size-fits-all perspective from the commission will not work
19:24because when we're building new houses in Madeira,
19:27we have regulation that obliges construction companies to build houses as if they were building them in northern Sweden.
19:36So it doesn't work for us.
19:38The climate is different.
19:39There is climate change.
19:40There is global warming.
19:41But still, Europe is very diverse.
19:43So it's an issue.
19:45And we need to address, but also with a local perspective and respecting the principle of subsidiarity.
19:51But now we just take a little break.
20:01Another island witnessing global warming is Ireland, of course.
20:04We're seeing temperatures and beaches flooded.
20:06Almost looks like Portugal now, the beaches of Ireland.
20:09But the country is clearly ready.
20:11I'm somebody that's old enough that when I was in my 20s and 30s,
20:15you went to Portugal, Greece, Spain on your holidays.
20:18That's where you went because it rains all of the time in Ireland.
20:21And so the only place you're getting a bit of freckles is going away.
20:25Not anymore.
20:25We had an amazing summer, but it was what we would expect a normal summer to be in Portugal.
20:32And I went to Athens for five days with my husband to see the Acropolis, and it was 38 degrees
20:37every day, which rendered the holiday nearly impossible.
20:41So if you didn't stay beside the sea to jump in and out every 10 or 15 minutes, you just
20:45weren't coping.
20:46That's a far greater threat to our tourism industry on the entire continent of Europe than Airbnb or short-term
20:53lets will ever be.
20:54And yet now we're only going to start having that conversation.
20:57And maybe it's the reality of the summer that we're going to do.
20:59It's no longer a political priority, despite the fact that it's now September and it's 30 degrees in Brussels this
21:03week.
21:04I know.
21:05So when I see us talking about 1.2% of the entire housing stock is a problem,
21:12when we actually should be really talking and concentrating on the real issues.
21:15Because, I mean, Ireland as a nation is an island native.
21:18We didn't have tourism.
21:19One of our pillars of our economy would literally fall flat.
21:23You're the same.
21:24The real threat to that, and actually maybe it's of Ireland's benefit,
21:28and when you can't go to Portugal on your holidays anymore, you'll be able to come to Ireland
21:31because it will only be in the 20 degrees.
21:33But it's an enormous problem that we have to address,
21:36and I don't think we've actually even started having that conversation yet.
21:38And, of course, the trends are changing indeed when it comes to travel preferences.
21:41You can read more about them on yournews.com.
21:43But now it is time to move on to our next round.
21:50So, as always, here on The Ring, we like to find out what's keeping Europeans up at night.
21:55Regular citizens back home on their sofas.
21:58Well, according to the latest Eurobarometer, lack of affordable housing right up there on top, 51%.
22:03After that, unemployment and lack of job opportunities.
22:08Underneath, lack of quality public services, followed by poverty or homelessness.
22:12Now, this barometer comes, of course, just on the cusp of 2027,
22:17when we're ready for big elections taking place in France, Italy, Poland, and Spain.
22:22Your reaction?
22:24Well, I think it's an example of some lack of alignment between the European priorities and our discussions.
22:35Because no security and defense written there.
22:36No security and defense. That's what I was going to mention.
22:38So, we're cutting budgets.
22:42We're cutting funding for social priorities, for social issues.
22:46We're betting on defense, on security.
22:49We're centralizing the cohesion policy, which is our largest investment policy in the European Union.
22:55And I'm a strong believer that the biggest or the best investment we can make in defense is cohesion policy.
23:05It's not defense and security.
23:07It's not a budget for a military.
23:11Would you agree with that?
23:12Do you know, I don't know.
23:13And it's funny.
23:14I say this to you coming from Ireland, where we're the furthest little island.
23:17And, you know, for me, Russia is hundreds of thousands of miles away.
23:21But when you talk to colleagues from the European bloc countries, there's a real fear.
23:26And I can appreciate and understand why security is incredibly important for them.
23:30And it rarely comes up in conversations at home.
23:32Albeit that that is changing.
23:34Because of our infrastructure and our lack of ability to be able to look after our maritime or, you know,
23:39our IT infrastructure.
23:41But if you go back to the poll, like, number one, number two, and number four in that poll could
23:46be addressed if we built more houses and we built them faster.
23:49And so we'd address the cost of living and giving people a roof over their head.
23:52We'd address the homelessness issue by building more houses.
23:55We'd address the employment issue by giving millions of people jobs, building houses with quality jobs of, you know, quantity
24:01surveyors, architects, engineers.
24:03Because people are leaving.
24:04We need to be serious.
24:05And actually, they're leaving to go to Australia and New Zealand and build the homes over there.
24:10So, you know, we need to make sure that we address these issues to look after our own citizens.
24:14Similar situation in Portugal.
24:16Yes.
24:17And just to be clear, this doesn't mean that I don't think defense and security should be a priority.
24:24We are on the opposite side of Europe, of the European Union.
24:28But we have borders with the United States, maritime borders, Madeira and Azores.
24:32We have the submarine cables in our territory that we need to defend and protect.
24:37We have the Russian shadow fleet in Portuguese waters every day.
24:43So, we have also challenges and defense issues to address.
24:48What I mean by having the cohesion policy as our strongest or best investment for defense is that we are
24:58completely doomed when the Portuguese feel that they don't need to be solidary with the Polish.
25:05Or when the Spanish feel that it's a Romanian problem, it's not a Spanish problem.
25:10That's why we need to stick together and to have the cohesion policy still as our main policy because it
25:18addresses the housing issues.
25:20But also many of the other issues that we are discussing here.
25:24Okay.
25:24And that's the big discussion in Brussels.
25:25The battle over the budget that we're following very closely on Euronews.
25:30Well, now it is time for our fifth and final round.
25:37And as always here, we do something a little bit different.
25:40We ask you questions and you're allowed answer with yes or no.
25:43Is that feasible?
25:44For politicians, no.
25:46Impossible.
25:47Impossible, yeah.
25:48Indeed.
25:49Well, let's give it a shot.
25:50Does Europe have a problem with overtourism, Regina?
25:53Yes or no?
25:53No.
25:54No.
25:55Is mass tourism sustainable?
25:57Yes or no?
25:58No.
26:00If we fix the problems, yes.
26:02Should tourists pay more taxes, yes or no?
26:06The EU doesn't have a competency on taxes.
26:08That's a responsibility of local and member states to make up for their own mind.
26:12So no?
26:12No.
26:13Should tourists pay more taxes, tourists who come to Madeira?
26:16No, depends on regions.
26:18Should portals like Airbnb face tougher rules, yes or no?
26:22Yes.
26:23Yes.
26:24Should local communities have the right to ban cruise ships, yes or no?
26:29Again, yes, depending on regions.
26:32It's up to them, yes.
26:33I see everything needs a little bit more context.
26:35Should the EU have a direct role in fixing national housing crisis, yes or no?
26:41No.
26:41I say that they should allow them to have the tools, but it's their decision.
26:49I think they should fix the things they're responsible for, which is a great start with
26:53simplification, the financing, the state aid rules, things that we actually have control
26:57over from a European competency perspective, not fiddle around with stuff that local governments
27:01can do themselves.
27:01And will the EU Affordable Housing Act actually lower rents for young people, yes or no?
27:07I don't think what we have so far is going to build a single house, and so therefore
27:11no, it won't.
27:12Sergio, yes or no?
27:13As it is now, no.
27:15And are you optimistic that the housing problem in Europe can be fixed one day, yes or no?
27:19Yes.
27:21Hell yes.
27:22Gonzales and Regina Doherty, thank you so much.
27:24You have been our guest this week on The Ring.
27:26Thank you so much to our audience.
27:27Thank you so much as well.
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