00:00Politics isn't any more about who voters like the most, it's about who they hate the least.
00:05And the next election could likely be about keeping reform out, so tactical voting against Farage.
00:12Now, in nearly all of the Lib Dems' current constituencies, the Conservatives are the big challengers,
00:17and they're the incumbents in most of the party's target seats.
00:21So the Lib Dems could theoretically argue that a vote for Labour or Greens could end in a Tory seat,
00:28which could bolster Farage were there to be a reformed Conservative tactical agreement.
00:34So ultimately, politics isn't about polling, and it isn't about personal popularity.
00:39People don't vote for party leaders. It's about seats.
00:42And in eight consecutive sets of local elections, the Lib Dems have made substantial gains,
00:48which would seem quite sustainable.
00:50And as you said, in the last election, they won a record number of MPs.
00:55They have 72 MPs.
00:57So, you know, it doesn't necessarily matter what people think of Edward Davey,
01:01or even if they think of him at all.