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Preeti Choudhry hosts a panel discussion featuring Bharatiya Janata Party spokesperson Guru Prakash Paswan, Congress spokesperson Arshdeep Kadyal, and political analysts Ashutosh and Swati Chaturvedi regarding nationwide political demonstrations, security measures, and mass detentions across Delhi and Mumbai. The discussion addresses the detention of 3,000 demonstrators in the national capital alongside transit closures, the deployment of 30,000 personnel, and the detention of over 400 individuals at Mumbai's August Kranti Maidan, including actor Imran Khan. Paswan defends state police action by citing constitutional mechanisms framed by Dr B.R. Ambedkar, arguing that laws originate in Parliament rather than street agitations. In response, Kadyal raises questions on Election Commission decisions and asserts the constitutional right to assembly under Article 19(1), while Chaturvedi and Ashutosh examine the administrative response toward citizens, student assemblies, and public access.
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00:00All right, so along with the leaders of the Kokoro Janata Party and others, there have been three detentions, big
00:06detentions, if you might say, of political leaders, three former chief ministers, Mamata Banerjee, Arvind Kejriwal and Pinarai Vijan.
00:12But latest news right now coming in, in the total number of detentions in this, what I can confirm is
00:18the official figure that has been released by the Delhi police itself.
00:233,000 people have been detained till now since the course of the morning.
00:28That is the official figure that is coming in.
00:323,000 protesters have been detained since the course of the morning.
00:38This number has been released. It's an official number that has now been released by the Delhi police.
00:44So we've seen a steady increase in this number, an uptick in this number since the course of the morning.
00:49Even our reporters on ground continue to report that small cluster protests are still taking place and detentions are still
00:57ensuing.
00:58I want to now cut across to our guests who are joining us this evening.
01:11Mr. Paswan, you know, help our viewers to understand on what really is happening on the roads of the national
01:20capital.
01:22Unprecedented, I would think, as a journalist, I haven't quite seen the kind of security measures that have been put
01:30in place,
01:30where trains have stopped, 23 trains that have been diverted, over 20 trains that have completely been cancelled,
01:38that come into the national capital from 4 a.m. till late night.
01:42There are BSF personnel on the ground. There are 33,000 personnel on the ground managing the situation.
01:5057 metro stations are shut.
01:53You know, how does one explain the kind of action that has been taken by the administration?
01:59The top court of the country, Mr. Paswan, has also said that you're using a hammer to swat a fly.
02:08The top court of the country also not disallow the government or the administration to take all these preventive measures.
02:15So, I think we have to take the observations of the top court comprehensively and holistically.
02:21Point number one.
02:21Point number two, Preeti, we must understand that today was a remarkable day.
02:25Democracy has prevailed over mobocracy.
02:28Laws will be made in the parliament.
02:30Laws will not be made on the streets.
02:33The sovereignty of India, which is the representative of 1.4 billion people, rest in the parliament of India.
02:40It rests in the institutions of this country and not on the street.
02:43Although there are some people who are trying to, because they are just suffering with this anarchist mindset,
02:50they are definitely trying to rob the institutions of its legitimacy, but it will not happen.
02:55One thing which is absolutely clear today, that our resolve against any form of anarchy,
03:01maximalism and terrorism is of topmost priority.
03:04The unity, the integrity of the country will not be compromised at any cost.
03:09This movement from the very outset was based on lies and propaganda.
03:13We saw what happened yesterday.
03:15All the by-polls, especially in the Nagao Assembly by-poll, the Congress Party lost all the polls.
03:20Did we see any activity from the Congress Party?
03:22Absolutely not.
03:23The lies over SIR, the lies over the 13 crore voters, since the very outset, since the very initiation,
03:29the conceptual framework of this movement was based on lies and propaganda and prepostericity.
03:36We have to understand the laws would be made in the parliament of India.
03:39What was prevented today, Preeti, on the streets of Delhi was the grammar of anarchy,
03:43as was envisioned by Dr. Babasar Mbedkar.
03:46He said the grammar of anarchy must not come on the streets of India.
03:51And we have constitutional methods.
03:52You have institutions to address the grievances.
03:55You have institutions to address the difference of opinion.
03:57So today is a big win for democracy over mobocracy.
04:00Certain section who have lost their political legitimacy,
04:03a political ecosystem out of sheer frustration,
04:06out of sheer anxiety,
04:07who have lost their political legitimacy in the eyes of 1.4 billion people,
04:11they are trying to do it.
04:13They are free to do it.
04:14But the government also, the Delhi police also,
04:16the administration also has to take certain preventive measure.
04:19And they have taken a preventive measure.
04:20Like I said, democracy has prevailed over mobocracy.
04:24The lies, propaganda and the preposterousity of the opposition
04:28and a section of CJP today falls flat.
04:31In the eyes of the people of India,
04:33what we saw in the video from the airplane that you were also airing,
04:37that many people were celebrating as well.
04:38Many people were clapping that finally these people are under arrest
04:43because they are out there.
04:44They have absolutely no moral compass to comment on it.
04:48The nation for the last seven decades have been running
04:51on the legitimacy of the constitutional institution
04:53and you cannot hijack it.
04:55The attempt to hold the national capital hostage
04:57have completely failed.
04:59And I think kudos to Delhi police,
05:02kudos to the administration,
05:04kudos to every single person who were involved
05:06in preventive what could have been an anarchy,
05:09what could have been a repeat of what we saw
05:11in the protest when the CJP came last time.
05:14Yesterday, Preeti, when the commissioner of police,
05:17Madam Nupur, did a press conference,
05:19she had categorically said that you need a 10-day window
05:22for seeking permission to protest at Jantar Mantar.
05:25They did not follow that.
05:26Point number two, they were, they, in the last time,
05:29in the last time they protested,
05:30they violated the undertakings as well.
05:32So I think Delhi police has all the right
05:35to take all the preventive measures to control
05:37and Delhi is the capital of our country.
05:39You cannot take capital as a hostage for your foolhardy,
05:44for your foolish, absolutely no constitutional basis
05:46when the Supreme Court of India on multiple occasions
05:49has established the constitutionality of SIR,
05:52the lie of 13 crore voters,
05:54where 2.8 crore voters are dead,
05:565.6 crore people have permanently shifted.
05:58So I think the people of India can see through the hypocrisy
06:00and the dual standard of the people or the leadership
06:03who were trying to invoke anarchy
06:05in the national capital today, Preeti.
06:10All right.
06:11Well, you know, I think Swati Chaturvedi
06:12has been shaking her head through and through.
06:14Swati, is it oversimplification of, you know,
06:18where, you know, Dr. Paswan labels the protest
06:22as a fight between democracy and mabocracy?
06:26Preeti, it was, I don't think it was an intervention.
06:29I think we heard a very eloquent speech from Mr. Paswan.
06:32I'd like to make a couple of observations.
06:34First of all, I think we need to,
06:36and the ruling party particularly,
06:38and I would request him to begin and start this,
06:41stop calling people names like anarchists.
06:43We live in a democracy.
06:45We are proud to call ourselves the world's largest democracy.
06:48We are talking about citizens.
06:50We are all citizens of India.
06:52We are all citizens of a democracy.
06:53He has no business absolutely to call any protester
06:58peacefully protesting an anarchist.
07:01You cannot label farmers earlier, students earlier,
07:05and people demanding the removal of an official anarchists.
07:09Does he know what anarchists are?
07:10What kind of, you know, what kind of labeling is this?
07:13Why does this party do this sort of name calling
07:16and labeling of other Indians all the time?
07:18I object.
07:19I really object to this, number one.
07:22Number two, is it about ego or a mob?
07:25You know, you garrison the capital.
07:27What do we look like in the world?
07:30That, you know, you've turned Delhi into a fortress for what?
07:34You inconvenienced people for what?
07:3657 metro stations shut down.
07:38What about if people need to go to a hospital?
07:40What about if people need to go, who have to take an exam?
07:43What about if you just want to step out?
07:45I am a citizen in a democracy.
07:46I will not be put in jail in my home like this.
07:50I mean, I want to use an Urdu word here.
07:53The Modi Sarkar has lost its Iqbal.
07:56And all they are doing now is just using force
08:00to just suppress and oppress fellow citizens.
08:07Okay.
08:09Ashutosh, I know you want to come back, Dr. Paswan,
08:11and I'll allow you another rebuttal.
08:13I'll just go across to Ashutosh,
08:14and I'll go back to Dr. Paswan.
08:17Ashutosh, you know, there seems to be a change, at least,
08:20on how the government has approached this protest
08:22and how they had reacted to the protest and Jantar Mantar the first time around.
08:27They were a little soft then, and you see now a massive hardening of Stan.
08:31And you can see that through the course of the commentary
08:34and the information that has come in from the BJP via press conferences.
08:38Verbs like mabocracy, anarchists, those who are looking, you know,
08:43to completely turn the capital over with arson, anarchy.
08:50What do you think has led to that shift?
08:54Preeti, if this is a shining example of democracy of India,
08:59then we all must be extremely worried.
09:02If this is what BJP spokesperson is calling democracy or mabocracy,
09:07then I'm really worried today.
09:09This is nothing else but fascism.
09:12I have no other word except this.
09:14In my long journalistic career, and I and Chaturvedi have shared those years in journalism,
09:23had never seen something like this, ever, ever.
09:27And when I say this, I say with authority.
09:31I have spent enough time in journalism,
09:33and I know how these things are tackled on the ground.
09:38The reporters are not even allowed to move.
09:40Journalists are detained.
09:42They are beaten left, right, and center.
09:45250, more than 250 trains have been canceled.
09:50More, 57 metro stations have been stopped.
09:55More than 30,000 policemen have been mobilized.
09:59And entire city has been barricaded.
10:0337 entry points to Delhi has been shut.
10:06For what?
10:08When these students were holding protests in Maharashtra under Devendra Fadnavis,
10:14everything was all right.
10:16They were not anarchists.
10:18They were not indulging into, they were not breaking laws.
10:22This is how Devendra Fadnavis, a BJP leader, a chief minister of Maharashtra, was dealing.
10:27But the same students, when they come to Mumbai,
10:31come to Delhi, under Amit Shah,
10:33the situation suddenly changed.
10:36Those who were the beacon of hope in Mumbai,
10:40because Mumbai police did not detain them,
10:45that means they had a high opinion about them.
10:48But the same people,
10:50when the passes from Devendra Fadnavis to Amit Shah,
10:53the situation suddenly changes.
10:56Why?
10:57Overnight, they became anarchists.
10:59Overnight, they became mob.
11:01Overnight, they became mafia.
11:03Overnight, they became violent.
11:05Overnight, they became what?
11:06So first off, the BJP has to decide
11:08that how these two top leaders of the BJP
11:11are dealing with these so-called anarchists within court.
11:15Point number two.
11:17Okay.
11:17Is there any evidence
11:20that when they are holding protests in Maharashtra,
11:24in Mumbai, Ajad Maidan,
11:25there was a single incident of violence?
11:29No.
11:31How come Delhi police under Amit Shah had assumed
11:34that there will be violence here?
11:37That means
11:38those who are ruling the country
11:40have no faith in Indian democracy.
11:43They do not believe in the non-violent protest.
11:46And who are there to give us lectures on democracy?
11:49The biggest violent protest
11:52was done by Bharati Janata Party
11:54on 6th December 1992.
11:56Dozens of journalists were beaten
11:58left, right and center.
12:00Their hands and legs were broken.
12:02The demolished Babri Masjid,
12:04which was called by Supreme Court
12:05as a criminal act.
12:06Now, these are the people giving lectures
12:09who do not believe in the Indian constitution.
12:12RSS Pramukh Sudarshan in 2007
12:14in an interview to Karad Thapar
12:15has said,
12:16scrap the constitution.
12:17And they do not believe in the constitution.
12:19I say openly,
12:21they do not believe in Indian constitution.
12:23They have abused left-right center
12:25Babasa Bambedkar.
12:26Allow me to...
12:27Now they are giving lectures.
12:29Allow me to get in,
12:30you know,
12:30because it's seemingly a two against one.
12:33We also have Ashdeep
12:33that will technically make it
12:35to three against one.
12:36I need to go back
12:36to Dr. Paswar
12:38and give him that opportunity
12:39to rebarque the vote of you.
12:40Priti, I think this balancing has to stop.
12:41I think this balancing has to stop.
12:42No, I...
12:42I've got a word here.
12:44I've done enough...
12:44No, I...
12:45You know, no.
12:46It's not about balancing, sir.
12:47It's not about balancing.
12:48It's about...
12:49No, no, Priti.
12:49Priti, let me put it straight.
12:51I've done enough,
12:52enough panel discussion
12:53in this country
12:54where a congressman
12:55were pitted
12:56against the five opposition leaders,
12:58including BJP.
12:59And one congressman.
13:00Then nobody came out and said...
13:02I hear you.
13:03But, sir...
13:04But, but, but, but Ashutosh ji...
13:06But, Ashutosh ji,
13:07at least on my show,
13:08I haven't allowed that
13:10in the past.
13:10And I would hope
13:12that you will stand with me
13:13when I say
13:14it shouldn't happen.
13:15Just because you got bullied
13:16doesn't mean
13:17that you decide to bully.
13:19So, I would suggest
13:20we just, you know...
13:22I don't understand why you, Priti.
13:22And I'll bring in Dr.
13:25No, I...
13:26It's just...
13:27No, all I'm...
13:28All I'm saying is
13:28just because you faced it
13:29in the past
13:30doesn't mean you meet out the same.
13:31Then that doesn't differentiate
13:33either of, you know...
13:34Of you.
13:35But I'll just bring in
13:36Dr. Paswan into this conversation
13:37and I'll bring in
13:38Mr. Khadyal there.
13:39Dr. Paswan,
13:40I want to get you back in.
13:42And, you know,
13:42this is a genuine question,
13:44Dr. Paswan.
13:45There are so many,
13:45you know, young
13:46and the youth of this country.
13:49You might not agree with them
13:50and they might not agree with you.
13:52And they might empathize
13:53with the cause.
13:53With what is happening
13:54on screen.
13:56Now, you have every right
13:57to say whatever you want to.
13:59But to call them anarchists,
14:00are you completely alienating
14:03people who are not
14:04politically aligned?
14:05Who decided to pick a side?
14:07Aren't you alienating them
14:08or has the party now decided
14:10or has the government
14:11now decided
14:11it's us against them?
14:13It's one side
14:14versus the other.
14:15Pick your sides.
14:21Preeti, this is the beauty
14:22of democracy
14:23and whether it's
14:243 is to 1
14:25or 30 is to 1
14:26I think we should agree
14:27to disagree respectfully
14:29and we have done it
14:30on multiple times
14:30in the past.
14:31We have to understand
14:32Swatiji said about
14:34Modi government
14:35losing its Iqbal.
14:37On what measure,
14:38what would be
14:39the barometer
14:39of judging
14:41the people's Iqbal
14:42or people's faith
14:43in the government
14:43I would like to ask her
14:44and they have been
14:45saying the same thing
14:46for the last 12 years.
14:47Preeti, it's the same cassette,
14:49it's the same word,
14:50it's the same wine
14:51in the same bottle
14:52so I don't think
14:53the people are buying
14:54this narrative anymore
14:55and the reason
14:56when I say
14:58that the Delhi police
14:58has taken preventive measure
15:00we saw how
15:01Priyanka Wadra
15:02was violently
15:04elbowing
15:05a common
15:06police woman.
15:07We saw how
15:08Mr. Rahul Gandhi
15:09in whatever quest
15:11he was
15:11violently misbehaving
15:13with a common
15:14policeman
15:14and I can give you
15:15hundreds such examples
15:17of the protests
15:17that happened last time.
15:19You saw
15:20abuses being
15:21hurled
15:22on Prime Minister
15:23on Home Minister
15:24when the last time
15:25the protest happened.
15:26We welcome
15:27the difference of ideas,
15:29the difference of opinion
15:30but violence
15:31cannot be tolerated
15:32at any cost
15:33and at the cost
15:34of being reputed
15:35I would again say
15:36that Dr. Ambedkar
15:38said that
15:38we can use
15:39constitutional methods
15:40of expressing
15:41our disagreement
15:42but the grammar
15:42of anarchy
15:43being unleashed
15:44on the streets
15:45of national capital
15:46cannot be accepted
15:47at any cost.
15:49Point number one.
15:49Point number two,
15:50I was not about
15:51to talk of the past
15:52but Ashutosh ji
15:53spoke about 1992
15:54and I am sure
15:55the previous generation
15:56of journalists
15:57before you
15:58Swati ji
15:58and Ashutosh ji
15:59would have seen
16:00the emergency time
16:01as well.
16:02There is a beautiful book
16:03by Madam Komi Kapoor
16:05it is called
16:05The Emergency Years
16:06where she speaks
16:07about the atrocities
16:08of emergency.
16:10Abhi, Dr. Ashutosh
16:11was mentioning
16:12about Dr. Ambedkar.
16:13Dr. Ambedkar
16:14used to refer
16:14to preamble
16:15as the soul
16:16of the constitution.
16:17That soul
16:18of the constitution
16:18was devastated
16:20by Madam Indira Gandhi.
16:21The point is not that
16:22we are not interested
16:24in going to the past
16:25but in the interest
16:26of democracy
16:27in the interest
16:28of public safety
16:28in the interest
16:29of the national capital
16:31in the interest
16:32of dialogue
16:33in the interest
16:34of conversation
16:35this should not
16:36be the way.
16:36You can come
16:37and talk to us.
16:38There have been
16:38certain occasions
16:39in the past
16:40Mr. Rahul Gandhi
16:41could have gone
16:41on the court
16:42the matter is already
16:43subjudice
16:43what happened
16:44in the Himachal Pradesh
16:46municipal elections
16:47the congress party
16:48lost.
16:49Ballot paper
16:49were used there
16:50in Tripura
16:51municipal election
16:52out of 4,500 seats
16:54the congress party
16:54got 40 seats
16:55in Assam
16:56the Silcher
16:57municipal polls
16:57where ballot paper
16:58were used
16:59the congress party
17:00lost.
17:00I am live
17:01from Bihar
17:01and the ballot
17:03paper were used
17:03here
17:03just 10 seconds
17:04the ballot paper
17:05were used
17:06in Bihar
17:06Mr. Alu Yadav
17:07used to say
17:08that the ballot
17:08box will be
17:09and what happened
17:11the biggest
17:12victim of ballot
17:13paper were
17:13the Dalits
17:14were the backwards
17:15were the tribals
17:16and were the
17:17marginalized
17:17in what
17:18regressive day
17:19and age
17:20my friends
17:20from the opposition
17:21want to take
17:22the country
17:23I don't understand
17:24after 2014
17:25Preeti
17:26one last point
17:26after 2014
17:27Preeti
17:27there have been
17:2875 elections
17:29in Dotto
17:2941 were won
17:31by Bharati
17:31Janta party
17:32and its allies
17:32and 34
17:33were won
17:34by congress
17:34party
17:35and its allies
17:35so I see
17:36absolutely no
17:37logic
17:38no rationality
17:39and let me
17:40make this point
17:40very clear
17:41that no force
17:42in the world
17:43no family
17:45no dynasty
17:46can hamper
17:47the interest
17:48of our democracy
17:49they cannot
17:50create an impediment
17:51for democracy
17:52the sovereign
17:53the 1.4 billion
17:54people of India
17:55who are being
17:56represented in the
17:56parliament of India
17:57parliament will make laws
17:58street will not make laws
17:59right
18:01but
18:02alright
18:03but fair point
18:04but you know
18:04once again
18:05is it over simplification
18:07by suggesting
18:08that it is
18:08one dynasty
18:09one party
18:10that is running
18:10the protest
18:11on the streets
18:12of India
18:13right now
18:14and if it is
18:15then you know
18:16it's a sorry documentary
18:17Dr. Passman
18:18because then
18:18the kind of force
18:19and the kind
18:21of forces on ground
18:22and the precautions
18:23that have been taken
18:24unseen
18:25unprecedented
18:25is it all
18:27because there's
18:27one dynasty
18:28and one political party
18:29trying to
18:31permeate
18:32the national capital
18:33and
18:34the central
18:35Delhi region
18:36because it just
18:36doesn't add up
18:37I want to cut across
18:39to more news
18:39coming in
18:40because there clearly
18:40now seems to be
18:41a line that the BJP
18:42and the government
18:43is taking
18:44which is
18:45that
18:45the streets
18:46of Delhi
18:47will not allow
18:48anarchy
18:49and the Delhi
18:50chief minister
18:50Rekha Gupta
18:51is the latest one
18:52to react
18:53and that's the news
18:54that we are breaking
18:55once again
18:56pinning the blame
18:57on opposition
18:57not really speaking
18:58about
18:59the youth
19:00of this country
19:01because I'm not
19:01saying entirely
19:02but there is a
19:02certain section
19:04of the youth
19:04that aligns
19:05with the cause
19:06of the Kokoro
19:07Janata Party
19:07and we've seen
19:08them come out
19:08in numbers
19:09even today
19:09Rekha Gupta
19:10suggesting
19:12that it is
19:13the opposition
19:14that is trying
19:14to instigate
19:15anarchy
19:16on the streets
19:17of the national
19:18capital
19:18vandalism
19:19and that will
19:19not be tolerated
19:20opposition is
19:21frustrated
19:22by repeated
19:23defeat
19:23something has
19:24changed
19:25the grammar
19:26of protests
19:27might have changed
19:28on the streets
19:28but the grammar
19:29of how
19:30and language
19:31on how the government
19:32is dealing
19:33with this
19:33protest
19:34has also
19:34seemingly
19:35changed
19:35from being
19:36softer earlier
19:37or being
19:37more inclusive
19:38trying to
19:39understand
19:39what this
19:41protest was
19:41about
19:41at least
19:42that's what
19:42we had
19:42seen earlier
19:43which came
19:44with the
19:44resignation
19:45of Darmendra Pradhan
19:46to now
19:47making
19:47on taking
19:48a very strong
19:50art stand
19:51against the
19:52protesters
19:52I want
19:53to bring
19:53in Ashdeep
19:54Khadyal
19:54into this
19:54conversation
19:55Congress
19:55spokesperson
19:56Mr. Khadyal
19:57I want
19:57to ask
19:57you one
19:58question
19:58where does
19:58the Congress
19:59stand in all
19:59of this
20:00we've had
20:01three former
20:01chief ministers
20:02who've courted
20:03detentions
20:03on the streets
20:04of the national
20:04capital
20:05suddenly
20:06two tweets
20:07come in
20:07on social
20:08media
20:09by Rahul
20:10Gandhi
20:10and Priyanka
20:12Gandhi
20:12pledging
20:13solidarity
20:13with the youth
20:14without naming
20:15Kokoro Janata
20:15Party
20:16not a single
20:17Congress
20:17personnel
20:18cadre
20:19leader
20:19is on the
20:20streets
20:21protesting today
20:22is there a
20:22distinction
20:23you want
20:23to make
20:24between your
20:24protest
20:25and this
20:25protest
20:27well thank
20:27you very
20:28much
20:28you finally
20:28have arrived
20:29at the
20:30principal
20:30opposition
20:30of the
20:31country
20:31the BGP
20:32spokesperson
20:32first spoke
20:33for three
20:33minutes
20:34then spoke
20:34for four
20:34minutes
20:35please allow
20:35me
20:36even half
20:36the time
20:37of it
20:37first
20:39there was
20:40a galti
20:40and now
20:41there is
20:41guna
20:42we have
20:42an undeclared
20:43emergency
20:44that has
20:45been imposed
20:46over the
20:46world's
20:47largest
20:47democracy
20:48and the
20:49Prime
20:49Minister
20:49Mr.
20:50Modi
20:50is silent
20:51not a
20:52word
20:52has been
20:53uttered
20:53by the
20:53Honorable
20:54Prime
20:54Minister
20:55we want
20:55to know
20:55why
20:55why does
20:56Mr.
20:57Modi
20:57not
20:57want
20:57to
20:57talk
20:57about
20:58the
20:58very
20:58chief
20:58election
20:58commissioner
20:59that he
21:00himself
21:00chose
21:01in the
21:01selection
21:01committee
21:02you would
21:03remember
21:03that the
21:04CJI
21:04was to be
21:05a part
21:05of the
21:06selection
21:06committee
21:06there was
21:07an order
21:07of the
21:07Supreme
21:07Court
21:08the BGP
21:09made a
21:09law
21:10bypassed
21:10it
21:10excluded
21:11the
21:11Chief
21:12Justice
21:12of
21:12India
21:12and now
21:13there is
21:13the PM
21:13the
21:14Union
21:14Minister
21:14and the
21:14Leader
21:20of
21:21very
21:21simple
21:21you were
21:22saying
21:22Preeti
21:22it is
21:22three
21:23versus
21:23one
21:23it is
21:23not
21:23really
21:24three
21:24versus
21:24one
21:24it is
21:25crore
21:26crore
21:27versus
21:27one
21:27Bhartya
21:28Janata
21:28party
21:29that is
21:30unwilling
21:30to take
21:31the
21:31resignation
21:31of
21:31the
21:32Chief
21:32election
21:32commissioner
21:32despite
21:33so much
21:34happening
21:34number
21:34one
21:35first
21:35there was
21:36an Indian
21:36Expresses
21:37report
21:37that said
21:38categorically
21:3914
21:39objections
21:39in 10
21:40months
21:40raised
21:41by two
21:41election
21:41commissioners
21:42four
21:43objections
21:43in one
21:44day
21:44and then
21:44a complaint
21:45being sent
21:45to the
21:46cabinet
21:46secretary
21:46now
21:47they
21:51a sitting
21:51supreme
21:52court
21:52judge
21:52justice
21:53says
21:53mass
21:54disenfranchisement
21:55is arbitrary
21:56and unconstitutional
21:57then there is
21:58a petition
21:58filed in the
21:59honorable
21:59supreme
21:59court
22:00with regards
22:00to
22:01suspension
22:01of the
22:02chief
22:02election
22:02commissioner
22:02notice
22:03has been
22:03issued
22:04number
22:04four
22:04the
22:05former
22:05chief
22:05election
22:05commissioners
22:06like
22:06Mr.
22:06Rawat
22:06and
22:06Qureshi
22:07have said
22:08this is
22:08explosive
22:08and
22:09unfortunate
22:09any
22:10decision
22:10taken
22:10against
22:11majorities
22:11is
22:11illegal
22:12now
22:12coming to
22:12the
22:12main
22:12point
22:13peaceful
22:13protest
22:14is a
22:14fundamental
22:15right
22:15guaranteed
22:15to us
22:16by the
22:16constitution
22:16under
22:17article
22:1719
22:171
22:18right
22:18to
22:19peaceful
22:19protest
22:20you cannot
22:20snatch
22:21away
22:22from us
22:22my request
22:23to the
22:23bhaati janta
22:24party
22:24is if you
22:24call it
22:25anarchism
22:26if you
22:26call our
22:27leaders
22:27anarchist
22:28then when
22:29the bhaati janta
22:29party was
22:30in the
22:30opposition
22:31in 2014
22:31of may
22:32you were
22:33protesting
22:33against the
22:34election
22:34commission
22:34in baranasi
22:35new delhi
22:36and many
22:37more places
22:37and Mr.
22:38Amit Shah
22:38was leading
22:39it
22:39would you
22:39use the
22:40same
22:40language
22:41for
22:41Amit Shah
22:41number
22:42two
22:42I have
22:43just spoken
22:44for two
22:44minutes
22:44Preeti
22:44I am
22:44speaking
22:45at last
22:45please
22:46round me
22:46a minute
22:46more
22:47my request
22:47is very
22:48sir make
22:48your point
22:49sir you are
22:50not on the
22:50ground
22:50today last
22:51two days
22:51you were
22:52there
22:52there has
22:53to be
22:55proportionality
22:55last two
22:56days we
22:57had the
22:57congress
22:57when you
22:58were protesting
22:58on ground
22:59through and
22:59through
22:59make your
23:00last
23:00point
23:01as far as
23:02where we
23:03are we
23:03are everywhere
23:04doing
23:05every bit
23:05there is not
23:06just one
23:06way to
23:06protest
23:07there are
23:07press
23:08conferences
23:08that are
23:09being done
23:09debates
23:09that are
23:10being done
23:10there are
23:10meetings
23:11that are
23:11being done
23:11there are
23:12protests
23:12that are
23:12being done
23:13there's a
23:14multi-faceted
23:14approach
23:15that we
23:15have
23:15my request
23:16there is
23:16very simple
23:17one second
23:17please
23:17the leader
23:18of opposition
23:18there are
23:19four to
23:20five
23:20FIRs that
23:21have been
23:21registered
23:21against him
23:22he was
23:22dragged on
23:23the road
23:23mrs.
23:24Priyanka
23:24Gandhi was
23:24dragged on
23:25the road
23:25they were
23:26assaulted
23:26they were
23:27manhunted
23:27if they
23:28can do
23:28this to
23:29the leader
23:29of opposition
23:29imagine
23:30what they
23:33are doing
23:33to the
23:34commoners
23:34of the
23:34country
23:35Dr.
23:36Paswan
23:37I just
23:37want to
23:38bring you
23:39in because
23:39there seems
23:40to be in
23:41our division
23:41anyone who is
23:42protesting
23:42today is
23:43anarchist
23:43the latest
23:43news coming
23:44in is
23:44actor
23:44Imran Khan
23:45has been
23:46detained
23:46not even
23:47in Delhi
23:47sir he's
23:48been detained
23:49all the way
23:49in Mumbai
23:51for taking
23:52part in the
23:52SIR protest
23:53now is he
23:54also an
23:54anarchist
23:55are people
23:56who are
23:56joining in
23:56in other
23:57parts of
23:57the country
23:58are also
23:58anarchists
23:59one needs
23:59to be a
24:00little measured
24:00sir would
24:01you not
24:01reckon
24:05no
24:06Preeti
24:06I was
24:07patiently
24:07listening to
24:08the points
24:09made by
24:10my friend
24:10from the
24:10Congress
24:11party
24:11there is
24:12a provision
24:12called
24:13impeachment
24:14if the
24:15conviction
24:15of the
24:16Congress
24:16party is
24:17so strong
24:17if they
24:18believe that
24:19they have
24:19got all
24:19the evidences
24:20why don't
24:21they go
24:21for impeachment
24:22why are they
24:23so much
24:23focused on
24:24street level
24:25justice
24:25point number
24:26one
24:26point number
24:27two
24:27madame
24:28priyanka
24:28was on
24:29the
24:29roads
24:30yes
24:30is she
24:31above
24:31the
24:31rule
24:31of
24:32law
24:32is she
24:33above
24:33the
24:33constitution
24:33of
24:34India
24:34absolutely
24:35not
24:35either
24:36let's have
24:37a conclusion
24:38on your show
24:38that there
24:39should be a
24:39corrigandum
24:40notification
24:41from 24
24:42akbar road
24:42stating that
24:43Rahul
24:44gandhi
24:44and Priyanka
24:45gandhi
24:45they are above
24:46the rule
24:46of law
24:46they are above
24:47the constitution
24:47of India
24:48the law
24:48of the land
24:49does not
24:49apply on
24:50them
24:50if they
24:51will
24:51misbehave
24:51they will
24:52have to
24:52face the
24:52consequences
24:53number
24:54three
24:54the lie
24:55that cgi
24:56was there
24:56in the
24:56committee
24:57to appoint
24:58the election
24:58commissioner
24:59the court
25:00was very
25:00categorical
25:01the court
25:02was very
25:02categorical
25:03in mentioning
25:04that cgi
25:04would be
25:05there
25:05in the
25:05transitory
25:06arrangement
25:07and for
25:07the first
25:08time
25:08i'm so glad
25:09he brought
25:09this point
25:10for the
25:10first time
25:11the leader
25:11of opposition
25:12has a voice
25:12in the
25:13appointment
25:13of election
25:13commissioners
25:14of India
25:14how was
25:15Naveen
25:15Chawla
25:16appointed
25:16Naveen
25:17Chawla
25:17who was
25:18said that
25:19he's unfit
25:20to hold
25:20any public
25:20office by
25:21shah
25:21commission
25:22who used
25:22to say
25:23that I'm
25:23the third
25:23son of
25:24Indira Gandhi
25:24you made
25:25him
25:25you appointed
25:26him as
25:26the chief
25:26election
25:27commissioner
25:27in spite
25:28of having
25:29disagreements
25:30on record
25:30by senior
25:31colleague
25:31Ngo Pala
25:32Swami
25:32on record
25:33so I don't
25:34think there is
25:35any point
25:35to this
25:35and I want
25:36to bring
25:36in
25:38okay but
25:39sir what's
25:39happening
25:39right now
25:40is multiple
25:40detentions are
25:41taking place
25:41in Mumbai
25:42as well
25:42over 300
25:43protesters
25:44have been
25:45now detained
25:46in Mumbai
25:47at the
25:48August
25:48Kranti
25:48Park
25:49one of
25:49them is
25:50actor
25:50Imran
25:51Khan
25:51I
25:51you know
25:52Swati
25:52you want
25:53to weigh
25:53in on
25:53this
25:54because
25:55the
25:56I think
25:57now there's
25:57that sense
25:58of fear
25:58of you know
26:00speaking up
26:01is over
26:01because now
26:02you have
26:03and information
26:03that we are
26:04getting in
26:05is that
26:05quite a few
26:06people were
26:07at protesting
26:08in solidarity
26:09with what's
26:09happening in
26:10Delhi at the
26:11August Kranti
26:11Park in
26:12Mumbai
26:13and
26:14300
26:15and
26:16300 of them
26:16and
26:16some
26:20other
26:21I believe
26:22individuals
26:23that come
26:24in from
26:24the film
26:25fraternity
26:25I don't
26:25want to
26:26give up
26:26the names
26:26yet
26:27because
26:27we don't
26:27have a
26:27confirmation
26:28but I
26:29can confirm
26:29400
26:30protesters
26:31have been
26:31detained
26:32in Mumbai
26:32from
26:33August
26:33Kranti
26:34ground
26:34which
26:34include
26:35Imran
26:35Khan
26:38the fear
26:39that's what
26:40I meant
26:40when I
26:40said
26:41that
26:41the
26:41Modi
26:41is
26:42personal
26:43Iqbal
26:43his
26:43personal
26:44political
26:44equity
26:45is
26:46gone
26:46which
26:47is
26:47what
26:47Mr.
26:48Paswan
26:48was
26:48objecting
26:49to
26:49this
26:49is
26:49what
26:49I
26:49mean
26:50that
26:51when
26:51the
26:51fear
26:51of
26:52you
26:52know
26:52are
26:53they
26:53going
26:53to
26:53call
26:53Imran
26:54Khan
26:54who's
26:55an
26:55actor
26:55and
26:56anarchist
26:57I
26:57mean
26:57all
26:58the
26:58everybody
26:58who
26:59protests
26:59if
27:00a farmer
27:00protests
27:00he
27:01becomes
27:01anarchist
27:01a
27:02student
27:02protest
27:02he
27:03becomes
27:03anarchist
27:04if I
27:04come
27:04on
27:04your
27:05show
27:05and
27:05say
27:06that
27:06you
27:06cannot
27:06be
27:07selective
27:08on
27:08the
27:08constitution
27:09the
27:09same
27:10constitution
27:10that
27:10Mr.
27:11Paswan
27:11keeps
27:11quoting
27:12and
27:13the
27:13same
27:13bala
27:13sahib
27:14that
27:14he
27:15keeps
27:15quoting
27:16to
27:16us
27:16also
27:17gives
27:17every
27:18citizen
27:18the
27:20right
27:21to
27:21peaceful
27:22protest
27:22I
27:23don't
27:23understand
27:23the
27:23problem
27:24what
27:24is
27:24this
27:24overkill
27:26why
27:26are
27:27you
27:27breaking
27:27a
27:27butterfly
27:28on
27:28a
27:28wheel
27:28these
27:29are
27:29young
27:29children
27:30what
27:31what
27:31they
27:31doing
27:32I
27:32mean
27:32you
27:32know
27:33you
27:33are
27:33shutting
27:33off
27:33the
27:33internet
27:34you
27:34are
27:35bashing
27:36them
27:36up
27:36in
27:36this
27:37thing
27:37now
27:37an actor
27:38is also
27:38anarchist
27:39anybody
27:39who
27:40says
27:41let me
27:43finish
27:44just one
27:44line
27:46Swati
27:47can I
27:47interrupt
27:48you
27:48because
27:49I
27:50think
27:50the
27:51reactions
27:51coming
27:52in
27:52from
27:52the
27:52August
27:52Kranti
27:53ground
27:54in
27:54Mumbai
27:55Imran
27:55Khan
27:56spoke
27:56to
27:56the
27:56press
27:57right
27:57before
27:57detention
27:58visuals
27:58of
27:58him
27:59being
27:59dragged
27:59into
27:59that
28:00bus
28:00listen
28:00in
28:02me
28:03I
28:14believe
28:19that
28:19it is
28:20important
28:20for
28:20everyone
28:20to
28:20show
28:21up
28:21and
28:21show
28:21that
28:22we
28:23are
28:23not
28:23afraid
28:23and
28:24that
28:24there
28:24is
28:24actually
28:24no
28:25danger
28:25and
28:25no
28:25threat
28:26over
28:26here
28:26the
28:27only
28:27threat
28:27is
28:28from
28:29all
28:30of
28:30these
28:30people
28:30attacking
28:30with
28:31sticks
28:36all
28:36right
28:36so
28:36Imran
28:37Khan
28:37detained
28:37those
28:38visuals
28:38coming
28:38in
28:39Divesh
28:39my
28:39colleague
28:40joining
28:40me
28:40on
28:40the
28:40phone
28:41line
28:41Divesh
28:42why
28:42has
28:42this
28:42detention
28:43taken
28:43place
28:43because
28:44the
28:44last
28:44time
28:44the
28:45anti
28:45SIR
28:46and
28:46anti
28:46CEC
28:47protests
28:47had
28:47taken
28:47place
28:48in
28:48Mumbai
28:48the
28:48Delhi
28:49police
28:49had
28:50peacefully
28:50allowed
28:50all
28:51protesters
28:51suddenly
28:52there
28:52seems
28:52to be
28:52a
28:52shift
28:53which
28:53we've
28:53been
28:56the
28:56approach
28:56of
28:57the
28:57government
28:57in
28:57Mumbai
28:58which
28:58is
28:58nowhere
28:58near
28:59central
28:59Delhi
29:00detentions
29:01are
29:01taking
29:01place
29:01in
29:02Mumbai
29:03as
29:03well
29:03which
29:03include
29:03the likes
29:04of
29:04factor
29:04Imran
29:05Khan
29:07yes
29:07definitely
29:09Mumbai
29:09police
29:09is not
29:10sparing
29:10anyone
29:10they are
29:11taking
29:12they are
29:12detaining
29:13every
29:13protester
29:14as well
29:14as the
29:14celebrities
29:15who are
29:15participating
29:17in this
29:18protest
29:18and
29:19what
29:19police
29:20is
29:20saying
29:20that
29:20they
29:20are
29:21trying
29:21to
29:21maintain
29:21the
29:21law
29:22and
29:22order
29:22situation
29:22if
29:23anybody
29:24stands
29:24here
29:24or
29:24starts
29:25protests
29:25here
29:25then
29:26the
29:27crowd
29:27will
29:28gather
29:28and
29:28it
29:28will
29:29get
29:30difficult
29:30to
29:30maintain
29:31the
29:31law
29:31and
29:31order
29:31situation
29:32over here
29:32because
29:32this is
29:33not a
29:33protest
29:34site
29:34and
29:35nobody
29:36has
29:36permission
29:37to
29:38protest
29:39over here
29:39and
29:39this
29:40is
29:40a
29:40heritage
29:40site
29:41so
29:41it
29:41is
29:41difficult
29:42okay
29:45all right
29:45I want to
29:46you know
29:47something has
29:48changed
29:48because
29:49there was
29:50no
29:50permission
29:50for the
29:50Mumbai
29:51protest
29:51of the
29:51CJP
29:52and
29:52large
29:52numbers
29:53had
29:53come in
29:53not
29:53just
29:54a few
29:54hundreds
29:54right
29:55now
29:55but
29:56something
29:56has
29:56shifted
29:57in
29:57the
29:57policy
29:57and
29:57how
29:58the
29:58government
29:58has
29:58decided
29:59to
29:59deal
29:59with
29:59it
29:59because
30:00nowhere
30:00near
30:00central
30:01Delhi
30:01August
30:02Kranti
30:02ground
30:03400
30:03people
30:04assembled
30:04to
30:04protest
30:05in
30:05solidarity
30:05of
30:06what's
30:06happening
30:06in
30:06Delhi
30:07including
30:08actor
30:08Imran Khan
30:09and they've
30:09been detained
30:11see
30:12see
30:12that is
30:12that is
30:12what I
30:12would
30:12try to
30:13underline
30:13in my
30:14earlier
30:15speech
30:16what I
30:17said
30:17I said
30:18there's
30:18a distinct
30:19difference
30:19between the
30:20Devant
30:20Fadnamist
30:20approach
30:21and the
30:21Amit Shah's
30:22approach
30:22it seems
30:24now the
30:25Devant
30:25Fadnamist
30:26has been
30:26pressurized
30:27to take
30:27action
30:27against
30:28them
30:28the peaceful
30:29protester
30:30a few
30:30days before
30:32was all
30:33hunky-dory
30:33the protesters
30:34were praising
30:35police
30:35police
30:36were praising
30:36protesters
30:37Devant
30:37Fadnamist
30:37government
30:38was sitting
30:38idle
30:38nothing
30:39happened
30:39no
30:39violence
30:40no
30:41mob
30:42nothing
30:42else
30:42but suddenly
30:44today
30:44even the
30:44Bombay
30:45has become
30:45unsafe
30:46for the
30:46government
30:46so that
30:47means
30:47there is
30:48a
30:48dictate
30:48from the
30:49top
30:49that
30:50all the
30:51state
30:51government
30:51has been
30:52pressurized
30:52you take
30:53action
30:53if this
30:54is not
30:55high
30:56let me
30:56tell you
30:57one thing
30:57allow me
30:57to bring
30:58it
30:58yeah
30:58five
30:59second
31:00yeah
31:00make your
31:01point
31:01any
31:01government
31:02who indulges
31:03into
31:03high-handed
31:04deaths
31:04whether it
31:04is
31:05Indira Gandhi
31:05or
31:06anybody
31:06else
31:07sooner
31:08or
31:08later
31:08will
31:09go
31:10this
31:10is
31:10the
31:10history
31:11and
31:11history
31:11is
31:11repeating
31:12itself