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June 17th, 2023. Northwest Tasmania. Céline Cremer was trapped in a freezing rainforest, fighting for her life... less than two thousand feet from her parked car.
Her next decision would make her the subject of one of the most intense rescue missions in Tasmanian history, one that would take three years to solve.
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00:00June 17th, 2023, Northwest Tasmania.
00:03Celine Kramer was trapped in a freezing rainforest, fighting for her life, less than 2,000 feet from her parked
00:10car.
00:10She wasn't on some brutal multi-day wilderness expedition.
00:14All she had done today was walk to a waterfall on a tourist trek so easy, people do it in
00:19jeans and sneakers.
00:20No, the light was dying fast, and she had her phone and nothing else.
00:25On her screen, a little blue dot said the trail was right in front of her.
00:28What she was actually looking at was a wall of rotting timber.
00:32Should she push forward into it, or turn around and retrace ground she couldn't recognize anymore?
00:37Her next decision would make her the subject of one of the most intense rescue missions in Tasmanian history,
00:43one that would take three years to solve.
00:46Welcome to the extreme edge, where the stakes are high, but nobody's, just a headline.
00:51What baffled me was that if you told Celine that morning she was going to go hiking,
00:55she would probably have laughed in your face.
00:58At 1.15pm, this 31-year-old Belgian tourist was at the Waratah Roadhouse,
01:03a small fuel stop in one of Tasmania's most remote towns for a coffee and nothing else.
01:10In four days, she was heading back home to the Australian mainland, but right now she had a few hours
01:15to kill.
01:15So, while chatting with the roadhouse owner, she asked for something fun to do.
01:20The owner casually suggested checking out a waterfall just ten minutes down the dirt road called Philosopher Falls.
01:27For Celine, this was just what you do on the last few days of a trip.
01:31Kill an hour before the ferry, see one more thing before you go home.
01:35Nothing about the suggestion asked her to be brave.
01:38It was the kind of yes any tourist gives a hundred times without thinking.
01:42So, sometime around 2pm, Celine parked her white Honda in a small gravel lot at the edge of the forest.
01:49She stepped out and walked up to the wooden trailhead, and past that sign, it was just a wide, flat
01:55gravel path, cutting easily through the ferns.
01:58The mid-June air was bitter, hovering just a few degrees above freezing.
02:03And that is exactly the trap of the Tasmanian wilderness.
02:06It claims lives every single year.
02:09Sometimes it's a fall.
02:11Sometimes the weather just turns in minutes, trapping casual tourists and experienced hikers alike.
02:17But one thing that is certain is nobody who passes away out there thought they had any reason to be
02:22scared that day.
02:24Celine certainly didn't feel any particular fear that day.
02:27If this were a proper wilderness hike, she would have packed extra layers, waterproofs, a physical map, maybe a beacon.
02:34But nothing here seemed to call for that.
02:36There was a marked path under her feet that led to the waterfall the roadhouse owner mentioned in less than
02:41an hour.
02:41So, Celine locked the Honda and followed the gravel track into the trees, wearing only a cream jacket over a
02:48fleece, black tights, and trainers.
02:50She had no idea how deeply she would later come to regret that decision.
02:56But for now, Celine started down the path in front of her.
02:59This obvious, gently winding path that cut through the rainforest, past moss-covered trunks and thick, green ferns, before carrying
03:08her across what locals called the Arthur River and toward a staircase.
03:12Yes, a staircase, made of 200 purpose-built steps dropping down into a gorge and ending at a viewing platform
03:20right in front of the cascading water.
03:22It was green and lush, and I mean, just look at it.
03:26It was just absolutely beautiful.
03:29Celine certainly thought so herself, too, because at 2.42pm, Celine was standing on that platform, taking photos and videos
03:36of the whole experience.
03:38The forest, the river, the ferns crowding the path, Philosopher Falls itself, spilling through the rocks below her.
03:46Everything was going just right.
03:48She had seen the waterfall with plenty of daylight left, her car was less than an hour behind her, sunset
03:54was still more than two hours away.
03:56All she had to do now was turn around, climb those stairs, and follow the gravel path straight back to
04:02her car.
04:02But five minutes later, she took a photograph that told us she did something else.
04:07At 2.47pm, Celine took a photograph of a fallen log lying across that old water race.
04:14It looked completely ordinary.
04:17At the time, it was just another photo.
04:19Later, it would become the moment investigators kept coming back to, because it showed that instead of climbing back up
04:26the stairs toward her car,
04:28Celine had continued past the falls and onto something called a water race.
04:33See, right next to the stairs, there was a flat, dirt trench cut into the side of the mountain.
04:38Back in the 1890s, miners dug this channel to move water.
04:42The local council simply put gravel over the first section for the tourists and stopped at the falls.
04:48But the old dirt trench just kept going, deeper and deeper into the uncharted wild.
04:53And if you were standing there without knowing any of that history, you could easily mistake it for another walking
04:58track.
04:59It was flat, narrow, and ran cleanly through the bush.
05:02For a while, it even felt easier to follow than the staircase she had just come down.
05:07So, Celine kept walking, and the further she went, the less it looked like the tourist trail she had started
05:13on.
05:14The gravel thinned out, ferns pushed into the trench, fallen trees began cutting across it.
05:20But the shape of the water race was still there, running forward through the forest like a line she could
05:25follow, and that was enough to keep her moving.
05:28At 3.31pm, Celine was nearly 3,300 feet beyond the viewing platform.
05:35Somehow, what began as a short walk to a waterfall had carried her deep into a forest she never meant
05:41to enter, and the light under the thick canopy was starting to fail.
05:45The temperature was dropping, and night was coming.
05:48She was no experienced hiker, but even she knew that hiking unprepared at night was begging for something bad to
05:55happen.
05:56She had to get to her car somehow.
05:58So, Celine turned around and began retracing her steps along the dirt trench, heading back south toward the staircase.
06:06She was probably thinking if she just stayed on this old water race, she would eventually reach the wooden steps,
06:12climb them, and maybe somehow find her way out.
06:15But while she walked, the afternoon had been quietly slipping away.
06:20What was green and lush two hours ago at the falls had gone to the flat gray of a room
06:25with the power dropping out, one bulb at a time.
06:29The cold, which had been sitting politely in the low single digits all afternoon, started sliding towards something with teeth
06:35in it.
06:36Sometime that afternoon, Celine stopped walking the way she came.
06:40Maybe she spotted a gap in the trees that looked like it cut the distance in half.
06:44Maybe dabbling all the way back to the falls, then up 200 steps, just to reach a car park she
06:50could practically feel behind her already, seemed like the long way around.
06:54Either way, at 3.49 that afternoon, Celine Kramer was no longer on any kind of path a tourist should
07:00be on.
07:01But she was not moving blindly.
07:03She still had her phone.
07:04On the screen, the situation looked manageable.
07:07Philosopher Falls was behind her.
07:09The car park was somewhere beyond it.
07:12Her own position was marked by a little blue dot, and the trail looked close enough that she should be
07:17able to cut straight back toward it.
07:19Then she looked up at the new path she was on, and what she saw was a wall of fallen
07:23trees belonging to some kind of local plant called Horizontal Scrub.
07:28These trees grow low and thick, piled on top of each other, all bent and twisted together.
07:34She pushed through anyway.
07:36A branch snapped back across her face.
07:38She climbed over one trunk, then another, and five minutes later, she'd only moved about 20 feet.
07:44The dot on her phone barely moved either.
07:47Then it started to rain.
07:48Not hard, just cold and steady.
07:51The kind that didn't feel like much at first, right up until your clothes were soaked through, and holding the
07:58cold against your skin instead of blocking it.
08:00Celine kept going up anyway, because up was the way her phone said would loop her back toward the falls.
08:05Up was the only way out of this nightmare.
08:08She was burning energy rapidly.
08:10Her cream-colored jacket and fleece offered almost no protection against the bitter, wet cold.
08:16In the boot of her car was a thick jacket that would have kept her warm, but it might as
08:20well have been on Mars for all the good it would do her right now.
08:23She kept checking her phone, watching the blue dot, trying to force the digital map to align with the physical
08:29nightmare around her.
08:30But she was using Google Maps, an app that was built for city streets, not wild rainforests.
08:36Because it doesn't map elevation or deep wilderness terrain, it was completely blind to the wall of rotting timber trapping
08:43her.
08:44All it gave her was a flat, blank screen and a blue dot.
08:47But incredibly, despite that limitation, this shortcut almost worked.
08:52By 4.13pm, she had fought her way near the top of a rise.
08:57Geographically, she was just about 2,000 feet from a track that could lead her back to safety.
09:02That's what made what happened next so painful to understand.
09:06Because at 4.18pm, Celine and her phone became separated.
09:12Maybe it slipped from a pocket while she was climbing.
09:14Maybe she put it down for a moment and couldn't find it again in the scrub.
09:18Nobody knew.
09:19What we did know was that the one thing she had been using to navigate this forest was out of
09:24reach.
09:25And just like that, Celine was standing completely unprepared in the freezing rain, on a trail no tourist had ever
09:32walked on.
09:33She had no map, she had no flashlight, and she had no way to call for help.
09:38And for the next 72 hours, not a single person on Earth knew Celine Kramer was in trouble.
09:44Three days later, more than 52 million feet away in Belgium, this woman named Justine Ropay tried to call her
09:51best friend.
09:52No answer.
09:53That alone did not scare her.
09:55Justine didn't know it yet, but she was the only person on Earth about to start looking.
10:01See, Justine was Celine's closest friend.
10:04She knew her buddy had been traveling all around Tasmania, where reception disappeared all the time out there.
10:10And Justine wasn't even calling for anything too serious.
10:13It was good news in a way, in fact.
10:15She had just booked her flight to Darwin, where the two of them were supposed to meet later in the
10:20trip.
10:20So when she sent a message and she received nothing at first, well, that was just life.
10:26But then a couple of days passed with no response, and Justine started asking questions.
10:31And she wasn't the only one concerned.
10:33Justine's mother, Ariane, had been trying to reach her too.
10:37Then other friends, who initially assumed Celine was somewhere without reception, started asking when they had heard from Celine last.
10:45And that was when they realized something terrifying.
10:48Nobody had actually heard from Celine since June 17th.
10:52So finally, on June 26th, nine days after she walked into Philosopher Falls, Justine and another friend finally called Tasmania
11:01police to report her missing.
11:03The next morning, a council worker drove into the small gravel car park at Philosopher Falls and saw a white
11:09Honda CRV sitting among the trees.
11:12And he immediately recognized it because he had seen that same car here days earlier.
11:17He probably assumed it belonged to a local attempting a multi-day trek, or maybe a tourist whose engine wouldn't
11:24start.
11:25Now he knew there was trouble, so he immediately raised an alarm.
11:29Police got a warrant, opened the car, and inside were Celine's camping gear and belongings.
11:34Everything she would need to continue the road trip was still inside.
11:38The only thing missing, of course, was Celine.
11:41By midday on June 27th, police officers were walking this same path Celine had walked nine days earlier toward Philosopher
11:49Falls.
11:49Only now did the place look completely different.
11:53Rain had been hammering this part of Tasmania,
11:55and light snow falling through the trees meant the Arthur River below the falls was no longer the quiet strip
12:01of water Celine had crossed on her way in.
12:04It was swollen, fast, and brown with runoff.
12:07It could take anybody off balance if someone tried to cross it without knowing how deep it was.
12:13So the police began putting two and two together.
12:16Maybe she fell in that river somewhere and needed help.
12:18A helicopter was called in, but low clouds hung over the forest and made flying useless.
12:24So a search team made up of the police and local volunteers went in on foot looking for her.
12:29They followed the maintained track and the old water race, shouting her name.
12:33Celine! Celine!
12:35Trying to listen for any sound coming back through the trees, but the forest was completely silent.
12:41They brought in tracking dogs, but it had been raining for nine days straight.
12:45Whatever physical scent Celine left on the gravel or the wooden stairs or the dirt trench had been washed deep
12:52into the mud.
12:53The dogs had nothing to follow.
12:55They just walked in circles.
12:57The weather finally cleared enough by the next day for helicopters to fly, but it didn't help.
13:02The police brought in choppers equipped with thermal imaging cameras,
13:05but the canopy above the horizontal scrub was a thick, wet ceiling, and the thermal cameras couldn't see through it.
13:12So they flew back and forth, directly over the patch of forest where Celine went missing, but couldn't find anything.
13:19And down on the ground, the search teams hit a physical wall too.
13:23When they tried to push off the flat dirt tracks and into the unbroken bush,
13:27the rotting timber was so tangled that even experienced hikers who came prepared had trouble keeping their footing.
13:34And they were looking for a woman who just came out here for a quick trip.
13:38They knew her chances were slim.
13:39A few years earlier, a climber named Gigi Wu fell into a ravine on a solo climb.
13:45She was conscious.
13:46She had a satellite phone.
13:47She gave rescuers her exact coordinates.
13:50Bad weather kept the helicopters away anyway, and by the time anyone reached her on foot, she had already passed
13:57away.
13:58Celine had none of Gigi's advantages.
14:00Nobody knew where she was.
14:02Her surviving would be an absolute miracle.
14:05But they searched for weeks anyway.
14:07Some of the rescue team roped up and lowered themselves straight down into the gorge,
14:12checking underneath the waterfall itself in case she'd slipped near the platform.
14:16Others waded into the Arthur River, fighting a current strong enough to knock a grown man off his feet,
14:22because if she went in the water anywhere near here, this was where she'd be.
14:27They found nothing.
14:28A doctor brought in to advise the search told them the plain hard truth.
14:32Dressed the way Celine was, in conditions like these, most people didn't survive much past three or four nights out
14:40there.
14:41So, on July 10th, 17 days after Celine disappeared, Tasmania police grounded the helicopters.
14:48The search crews packed up their gear.
14:50A tow truck backed into the small gravel lot, hooked up the white Honda CR-V, and dragged it away.
14:56The local council took down the police tape, and the gravel path to Philosopher Falls was quietly reopened to the
15:03public.
15:03The search was formally over.
15:05For all intents and purposes, Celine Kramer just ceased to exist.
15:10Did she survive that first night?
15:13Did she try to crawl out the next morning?
15:15Did she fall?
15:16The police had no answers.
15:18Her family had no body.
15:19For most missing person cases, this was where time started doing its work.
15:24Search teams moved on, and people just stopped asking.
15:28For most people, Celine Kramer simply became another mystery.
15:32But Justine, who had known Celine since kindergarten, was not one of those people.
15:37And she could not accept that her best friend had simply vanished just like that.
15:43So, she came to Tasmania herself, not for a weekend or a search, but for months.
15:49She drove the roads Celine had driven and spoke to people Celine had spoken to.
15:53At first, Justine genuinely feared somebody had taken Celine, or maybe she had fallen victim to an animal attack.
16:00And I get it.
16:02If somebody told you your friend walked onto a safe tourist track,
16:05hundreds of people searched for her, and not one piece of her was ever found,
16:10your mind naturally jumps to the worst possible scenarios.
16:13So, in 2024, Justine contacted a popular private investigator named Ken Gamble.
16:18Ken had worked on another case involving a missing Belgian backpacker in Australia.
16:23He knew what abductions, or worse, looked like.
16:26But when he looked at the last records of Celine's cell phone data,
16:29he reached a very different conclusion.
16:31See, even though no one had any idea where her phone was in the forest,
16:36the device had spent that entire afternoon desperately searching for a signal.
16:41Every time it tried to connect to a tower, it left a digital footprint her family had access to.
16:46And when they gave it to Ken, he mapped out those broad location pings.
16:50The erratic movement did not look like a woman being chased by a person,
16:55or hunted by something with claws.
16:57It looked like a woman physically fighting the terrain, trying to find her way out.
17:01That small distinction changed everything, because it meant she was still in the trees.
17:06It meant there was still something left to find.
17:10That realization was exactly what caught the attention of a Tasmanian prospector and YouTuber named Rob Parsons.
17:16Parsons knew the physical reality of this specific bush.
17:20Building on the investigator's theory, he went out to the old water race himself.
17:25He wanted to understand the exact route a freezing, lost hiker would logically take.
17:30He filmed the dense scrub and put the videos online.
17:34People watched them.
17:35And as they watched Parsons struggle through the rotting timber,
17:38they saw exactly why the police had failed.
17:41They saw how easily the forest hid things.
17:44Eventually, the audience stopped asking why nobody had found Selene,
17:48and started asking a different question.
17:50Why don't we go look?
17:52More than 200 people actually volunteered to search for her.
17:55But you could not send 200 strangers into that type of vegetation
17:59without risking another search and rescue operation.
18:02So the group was cut down to 28 people,
18:04made up of former military members and hardened, off-track hikers.
18:08And on December 13th, 2025, almost exactly two and a half years after Selene disappeared,
18:15they walked back into the rainforest with maps and sections of the dense bush already divided into grids,
18:21looking for the woman who had no idea a simple hike would lead to this.
18:26One of those 28 volunteers was a man named Tony Haig,
18:30one of the men involved in the initial search for Selene.
18:32And on the first day of the new grid search,
18:35Tony was walking near the back of one of the lines his group was searching when he looked down.
18:40Something small, dark, and incredibly easy to miss sat on the vegetation.
18:46Tony bent closer, and just like that, saw what it was.
18:50It was a mauve Samsung phone wrapped in a blue case.
18:53And when police compared it to their records, it was a perfect match.
18:58Tony had just found Selene Kramer's phone,
19:01and the crazy part was he was standing inside the same forest the police had searched.
19:06The vegetation here was so thick that Tony himself had previously walked
19:11within just a few feet of this exact spot and never seen it.
19:15For more than two years, one of the most important pieces of evidence in the entire case
19:20had been lying almost exactly where everyone thought it should be.
19:23They just could not see it.
19:25But if the phone was here, where was Selene?
19:27For two and a half years, everyone had thought that Selene and the phone were in the same place.
19:32Now, it turned out that while the phone stopped here, Selene didn't.
19:36Police took the mauve Samsung to a lab.
19:38It was badly damaged, obviously.
19:41But technicians managed to extract the memory.
19:43That's where they found the photos of the ferns and scrubs I mentioned earlier.
19:47They found 45 distinct GPS pings,
19:50which told them just how hard she was relying on her digital map to save her.
19:54And technicians also saw something that honestly broke my heart when I read it.
19:59At 3.46pm, Selene had searched for Philosopher Falls.
20:03At 4.07pm, she had opened the phone keypad.
20:07Eight minutes later, at 4.15pm, she had switched the phone off and turned it back on again.
20:12Then, at 4.18pm, she had searched for Philosopher Falls one final time and taken a screenshot of the map.
20:19Just think about what those four actions meant.
20:22Selene, cold, wet, and stuck inside that horrible scrub, was not panicking.
20:28She might have been scared, but she was still actively trying to solve the problem herself.
20:33She never stopped trying to get out.
20:35But after 4.18pm, there was nothing.
20:38No new search, photograph, or touch on the screen ever again.
20:42Which meant Selene had not simply stopped moving at 4.18pm, she had lost the thing that was recording her.
20:48But she was still out there somewhere.
20:51So the searchers went back into the forest, pushing past the spot where Tony had stood looking for her.
20:56A couple of days later, they thought they found something huge.
20:59Because tucked near a tree, they found plastic bags and a bottle,
21:03arranged in a way that looked like a makeshift shelter.
21:07If those belonged to Selene, it meant she survived the first night.
21:10Maybe she somehow made it.
21:13But DNA testing revealed the material on the objects belonged to a man instead.
21:17And despite searching the surroundings, they found no evidence of anything belonging to Selene.
21:22She was still lost in a forest that refused to surrender a single physical trace.
21:28And that, ironically, was exactly what told one volunteer they were looking in the wrong place all over again.
21:35His name was Jared Boyce, and his theory was simple.
21:38If Selene lost the phone and lost the trail, sooner or later, she'd have looked for the one thing in
21:44this forest she genuinely couldn't lose.
21:46Water.
21:47The Arthur River cut straight through this whole landscape, and lost people followed rivers.
21:52It was a good instinct, actually, because rivers led to roads, towns, bridges, somewhere.
21:58What if that was what happened here?
22:00So, on January 28th, 2026, six weeks after Selene's phone was found, Jared walked back into the bush and began
22:08moving downstream,
22:09checking the edges of the river, the log jams, the places where somebody could have slipped or become trapped.
22:15The ground here was just absolutely brutal.
22:18Steep banks, wet, rotting trees, ferns thick enough to hide holes in the earth,
22:24fallen trees jammed together where flood water had thrown them.
22:28Even in daylight, navigating this section took careful experience.
22:32To do this alone, at night, on a trip he hadn't prepared for, must have been terrifying.
22:38Jared had been walking for about two and a half hours, when something near the riverbank caught his eye.
22:43There was something down in the ferns beside him, half hidden among the leaves and wet debris.
22:47From where he was standing, he couldn't quite tell what it was.
22:51So Jared stepped closer, bent down, and the second he realized what he was looking at, he froze in shock.
22:58Then, Jared pulled out his phone, took a photograph, marked the exact location,
23:04then turned around and started moving back through the forest as fast as he safely could.
23:08He needed to call someone now.
23:10When he finally got enough signal, Jared called Tasmania police and told them to come quickly.
23:16He had found something in the Arthur River.
23:19Something human.
23:20Officers quickly arrived at the coordinates he'd given them.
23:23They pushed down through the same steep riverbank, moved through the ferns,
23:27and lying right there, less than ten feet away from the exact spot Jared photographed,
23:32was a human jawbone with teeth still attached.
23:35Two days later, specialist search and rescue teams descended into the gorge area.
23:40They knew what to look for this time.
23:42And in no time, the forest that had refused to give investigators a single clue for almost three years finally
23:48broke wide open.
23:50Tangled high up in the debris of a massive log jam, they found a human skull.
23:54Scattered further down the bank, half buried in the mud and ferns, they found a human vertebrae, part of a
24:01pelvis,
24:02and caught in the branches nearby were pieces of clothing, a bra, and a weathered fleece jacket.
24:07The remains were not in one neat place, but when they were taken to a lab, they belonged unmistakably to
24:13one person.
24:14A person who had been in the river long enough for floodwater to pull the body apart, move bones downstream,
24:21wedge clothing into branches, and scatter pieces across hundreds of feet of riverbed.
24:26And then, during another search of the same stretch in early February,
24:30officers found something that put it all to rest in their minds.
24:34It was a car key, still attached to a super cheap auto tag.
24:38And when Tasmania police, still with Celine's Honda, took the key back to the vehicle and put it in the
24:44lock,
24:44it actually opened her car.
24:46Now, there was no room left for doubt.
24:49The phone was hers, the car key was hers, the clothing matched what she had been wearing.
24:54So, on February 27th, 2026, Tasmania police finally made the announcement.
25:00After nearly three years, the search was over.
25:03The remains of Celine Kramer had been found.
25:06When coroner Madeline Wilson officially wrote her report on what happened here,
25:10she called it a confluence of errors.
25:13And honestly, that was a bit too clinical for what actually happened.
25:16Anyone who'd ever been on a trail, even experienced hikers,
25:20had made the exact same calculation Celine did.
25:22You saw a beautiful waterfall, you saw what looked like a flat dirt path continuing past it,
25:27you decided to walk just a few more minutes to see what was around the next bend.
25:31It was the most natural human impulse in the world.
25:34And if you got a little lost, well, you had your phone, didn't you?
25:37It was a tourist trail.
25:39She would make it out somehow.
25:40That's exactly what Celine would have told you.
25:43It's what any of us would say.
25:44I'll be honest with you.
25:46I've been on hikes where I trusted a screen exactly like that, underprepared.
25:50Sure, I had it handled.
25:51And if two or three small things had gone differently that day,
25:55I could be telling you a story about myself right now, instead of her.
25:58Most people who've ever walked into the woods could.
26:01But Celine wasn't the only adventurer who calculated that,
26:05trusting herself to somehow figure it out.
26:07This man, at 29,000 feet in the death zone of Mount Everest, did the same thing.
26:12Except he wasn't standing in a Tasmanian rainforest.
26:15Three hours earlier, his guide had turned back, ill.
26:19He pushed on.
26:20And now, at 29,000 feet on the tallest mountain in the world,
26:25he was blind, alone, and had to come back down if he wanted to live.
26:29Now, he had to get off the mountain without ever seeing his own hands.
26:33Whether that choice killed him too is what happens next.