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کایا کالاس، دیپلمات ارشد اتحادیه اروپا، در آستانه نشست سرنوشت‌ساز بروکسل درباره جهش قیمت انرژی، بودجه هفت‌ساله ناتمام و فشار دونالد ترامپ بر اوکراین در گفت‌وگویی اختصاصی با ماریا تادیو صحبت می‌کند. همچنین با ابو ابوغزاله، وزیر سرمایه‌گذاری اردن، مصاحبه می‌کنیم.

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00:14good morning it's Thursday October 15th you're watching Euronews and this is Europe today coming
00:22up spiraling energy prices the EU's long-term budget and support for Ukraine in the wake of
00:28Donald Trump's latest pressure campaign these are the topics that will dominate the conversation
00:33as the leaders of the EU gather for a two-day summit in Brussels today the meeting will start
00:39in a couple of hours with a hotly anticipated discussion on energy prices which hostilities
00:44in the Middle East have since skyrocketing we'll discuss the issues live with EU High Representative
00:50Kaya Callas who is in our studio diesel markets will remain tight well into next year and wholesale
00:57diesel prices in Europe could rise again in the coming weeks the International Energy Agency
01:02warned in its monthly report the Paris-based energy watchdog said recovering Gulf oil supplies had
01:08failed to resolve the fuel squeeze with global output still falling short of consumptions supply
01:15rose by 2.5 million barrels today in September to more than three-quarters of pre-war levels but
01:22remains slightly below global demand the IEA estimated and 58 members of the European Parliament have urged
01:30the EU Commission to shield the International Criminal Court from US sanctions that threatened to disrupt its
01:36operations in a letter seen by Euronews the members called and commissioned President von der Leyen to defend
01:43the Hague-based court against what they described as an attack by a foreign power on an entity on EU
01:50territory
01:50the Trump administration had announced fresh sanctions against the ICC last Friday following repeated
01:57criticism of the court over its arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu welcome to the
02:04program I'm Stefan Grobe EU leaders are meeting in Brussels today for a heavy agenda involving the EU's next
02:11seven-year budget the gathering takes place amid deteriorating relations between the US and Europe over Ukraine
02:19and now let's go directly to my colleague Maria Tudeau who is with a special guest the EU high
02:26representative Kaya Kalas yes absolutely chef and good morning and madam Kalas good morning thank you for
02:32joining us on Euronews this has been a difficult week a dramatic week some would suggest it started with
02:38that diesel deal with Russia and now there seems to be real operational issues when it comes to the intel
02:43on the ground in Ukraine the president of Ukraine Zelensky says this is a betrayal it feels like a betrayal
02:50has the US
02:51president betrayed Ukraine and by extension the Europeans well the diesel deal is definitely a gift to
02:58Putin the question is what is he given in return what we see he's actually increasing the attacks on the
03:05civilian and
03:06civilian infrastructure the ceasefire that was also announced is not really working on the Russian
03:12side and to that point the president of Ukraine seems to indicate in an interview with the FT that
03:18he is prepared and will hit back Russian refineries there is a clash of visions here the president of
03:24the US says don't hit them we need them because there is an energy crisis it started with the
03:29strait of Hormuz the Ukrainians say we have to because that is the core of the operation the
03:34moneymaker for Russia and your view as a top European diplomat should Ukraine hit them I mean the core
03:40issue is that Russia should stop this war so so there wouldn't be any attacks on the refineries either
03:48but you know if we if we look at the big picture then the majority of the financing for this
03:55war comes
03:56from oil and and that is why Ukraine is also targeting them while Russia is targeting the energy
04:02infrastructure inside Ukraine to cause as much suffering for the Ukrainian people for the upcoming
04:09winter and this escalation we've seen since August on the cities but just to pick up on this point would
04:15you say yes the president of Ukraine has a legitimate point he is right to hit the refineries yes if
04:22we look
04:22at the you know the international law it is clear that it is in defense of Ukraine because that is
04:29where the
04:29funding comes for this war to kill Ukrainian people every day and to me it seems the administration
04:35is looking currently at this scenario suggesting that the war is now not going to change that line
04:41on the battlefield that is the end of it and you have to make a deal they seem to think
04:46that with Russia
04:47it's a matter of business financial incentives we see that with a diesel reports that they may want
04:53to use some of the frozen assets potentially give them to Russia is the administration wrong are they just
04:58miscalculating fully with Vladimir Putin once well clearly you know we have to see the bigger picture which is
05:06that we have one aggressor and one victim so pressuring the victim to surrender is maybe bringing the pause to
05:14this war but
05:15not you know in a long term and that's why the pressure should be on the aggressor what we are
05:20doing on the European side and if we
05:23would do this together with US then the message to Russia would be clear stop this war and all your
05:29you know worries when it comes to oil
05:32refineries and what what not I will also stop to me from the outside what it seems however is we
05:37are a point of rupture the US has taken on a
05:41very different path compared to that of the Europeans do you look at it and you say we need a
05:45wake-up call it is just a
05:47moment of we need to put our own plan and why has that not happened now well we have put
05:53our own plan and that is a
05:55clear message also to Russia that you know all these things that they are interested in lifting the sanctions I
06:02mean getting you
06:03know the the release of frozen assets that's actually up to the Europeans to decide now Russians want to discuss
06:10and
06:11negotiate with us so that us would deliver them what they want so so yeah you know Europe is just
06:17a nuisance here but
06:19actually you know we have our own requests for Russia because they have started this war we want to make
06:26sure that they don't
06:27continue also you know the sabotage acts hybrid attacks that they have on European soil so clearly
06:33clearly you know the message is there that you know you need to talk to the Europeans as well but
06:40it seems to me and I say
06:41this with all due respect because they use a complex institution the capitals too but there is a lack of
06:47leadership when you are
06:48blindsided every four months when you're not really at the heart of the negotiations when the hybrid attack escalates the
06:54message I get is that the US does not
06:56respect the perspective of the Europeans and that Russia is willing to test them why where is the failure coming
07:02from because the
07:04calculation is that you know if Russia and US agree then you know Russia will get what they want but
07:11they have miscalculated because you know when was the
07:15the anchorage agreement it was August last year so it is more than a year that they have tried to
07:22pressure Ukraine but the but the
07:24calculus it has been wrong because Europeans have been supporting Ukraine and Ukraine has not surrendered even though Americans have
07:33been pressuring and yet I see a very difficult
07:36political calendar with the elections that are lining up in Europe. Yesterday Marie Le Pen was in Brussels and she
07:42said and this is a quote
07:43France is not in a position where it can't pay for Ukraine anymore if others want to pay they can
07:48but France will not pay they cannot do it anymore when you hear that are you concerned because it seems
07:53to me the political tide is not working in favor of Ukraine.
07:56It is true that we are all democracies and a lot of elections are coming up and also there are
08:03a lot of you know the public support is also in a different place than it was you know four
08:09years ago that's also very clear but this is what the
08:12Russians are actually you know what the Russians are actually you know playing at they are playing at that the
08:16Europeans will get tired and then they will get what they want and what I want to stress is that
08:23then we will only have a pause and the appetite for them will grow.
08:27And to that point there is a financial cost however the Europeans let's be honest can they pay a hundred
08:34billion assuming maybe that's the number we're looking at to help the Ukrainians who is going to finance this
08:40and ultimately is it not just obvious that you got to tap into the Russian first and assets before the
08:45Americans do it.
08:46Well the frozen assets are frozen in Europe and also I mean the agreement between the European leaders is that
08:55they are going to remain frozen until Russia pays reparations.
08:59So yes clearly a lot of member states are pointing at these two billion two hundred billion that you know
09:06we should take this money that Ukraine needs from these frozen assets.
09:09And what's it going to take to change dynamics then?
09:13What's it going to take? It's going to take a clear plan to actually you know divide the risk because
09:21yes some member states have the frozen assets they are afraid of the risk that comes to their way.
09:28If all the member states would share the risk.
09:31Is that idea still alive?
09:32Yes it is it is still alive but you know also the clear plan needs to need to come.
09:40And just high representative as a final point over the past six months there has been a campaign something I've
09:46not seen in a long time in Brussels to undermine your work and your institution.
09:51What I see today is a high representative that is determined and is not going anywhere.
09:55Are you going to fight for your institution?
09:56Of course of course I'm going to fight and it's a it's a good institution meaning that we do a
10:03lot of good work.
10:04The EU delegations that everybody is very happy with are working well for also the member states.
10:10I think this is the moment in time where we need to be effective in our foreign policy.
10:15We need to be united and that's why the discussions I actually welcome how can we make them more effective.
10:21And that's your message to the capitals too that you will be on top of this dossier.
10:24Yes absolutely and that's that has been my message and also the message of my secretary general who has been
10:31traveling.
10:32I see you revitalized this morning.
10:34I see you energized.
10:35Is that how you feel?
10:37Absolutely I mean you know tough times are need to have a tough you know stance.
10:43Well to that point Kaya Callas thank you so much for joining us on Euro News this morning.
10:47Stefan.
10:48Thank you Maria and thank you high representative Kaya Callas.
10:52Europe is facing a strategic choice over its future borders.
10:57With Ukraine, Moldova and the Western Balkans pressing for EU membership enlargement is back at the heart of the European
11:04debate.
11:05Austria is proposing a new approach giving candidate countries access to the single market as they complete reforms rather than
11:12making them wait for full membership.
11:15But does that accelerate enlargement or risk creating a permanent halfway house?
11:21Yesterday I had a chance to speak to Austria's foreign minister Beate Meinl Reisinger to discuss her proposal.
11:27And I started by asking her why the enlargement process is moving so slowly.
11:32Is it because the candidate countries are lacking reforms or because of political reluctance inside the EU itself?
11:40Here's what she said.
11:43There are so many countries now in the waiting room for or have been in the waiting room for over
11:4720 years, especially those countries from the Western Balkans.
11:51And you know that Austria is a fierce promoter of Western Balkan accession.
11:56I think it's both.
11:57First, it's a very complicated and bureaucratic process and it's hard to do reforms, to reform everything in your country,
12:05which is what we ask for from these states.
12:09But on the other hand, it's also a little bit, well, not only political reluctance,
12:15but also bureaucratic reluctance of Brussels not being able to promote ideas like this asexual integration,
12:28this step-by-step membership, as we introduced now into the discussion.
12:32On that point, Austria has proposed to give EU candidates access to parts of the single market before they become
12:39members.
12:40Isn't this essentially EU membership à la carte?
12:44No, it's not à la carte, because this is not a membership only in a single point, and that's it
12:50then.
12:50The target, the goal is always full membership.
12:54But what we have seen now over the last two decades is that those exceeding countries, they do reforms.
13:01In some countries, on a faster pace and some a little bit more slowly, but they do reforms.
13:07But it has been always everything or nothing.
13:10So if you do all the reforms, you get eventually the full membership.
13:15And now this idea of step-by-step membership, it's a development out of our gradual integration approach,
13:22means that if you do reforms in a respective area, you can enter the single market there.
13:27So it's not like, I don't know, an elevator you take.
13:32It's not getting any faster.
13:34But you see the effects of the reforms immediately.
13:37Now, there are fewer than half of Austrians who currently support EU enlargement.
13:43Why should Austrian taxpayers and voters see another enlargement as being in their interest?
13:50Well, actually, that is our communication job.
13:53And I see the numbers as well.
13:54And I'm a little bit wondering what has been the communication over the last two decades,
13:59because Austria is among the top investors in nearly all exceeding countries, especially in the Western Balkans,
14:07but also take, for example, Ukraine.
14:10I think Austria has been the sixth largest investor there.
14:14More than 200 companies are already there.
14:16With every enlargement round we made, after Austria was a full member of the European Union,
14:22we saw that Austria benefited enormously, so that wealth in our own country and jobs have been created.
14:32Now, finally, if the EU doesn't offer the Western Balkans a credible part to membership now,
14:38are we effectively handing the region to Russia and China?
14:42Yes, we are.
14:43I always say there is no such thing as a vacuum in EU politics.
14:48And the enlargement is the most powerful and important EU strategic instrument the European Union has.
14:58So it is primarily, in my opinion, a political decision to be taken, that we say, no, this is our
15:06backyard.
15:07We want the countries of the Western Balkans.
15:10We want also Ukraine, Moldova to be part of the European Union.
15:15But apart from that, we are not only an internal market.
15:19We are also a union created out of values.
15:22So they have to do the reforms, but we have to find possibilities how to make it much quicker than
15:29in the past.
15:30Once again, for Western Balkan countries, there has been more than two decades,
15:34and we are losing the population there.
15:36And if the population is getting frustrated, it's very easy for Russia or China or the US to enter those
15:44countries.
15:47Also, as Foreign Minister Beate Meiner-Reisinger.
15:51And now to the Middle East, but not to Iran.
15:54Jordan is looking to turn its partnership with the European Union into a major economic opportunity.
16:01With billions of euros on the table,
16:03Amman wants European investment in everything from energy and infrastructure to technology and logistics.
16:10But beyond the money, this is also about geopolitics.
16:13As wars and instability reshaped the Middle East,
16:17Jordan is positioning itself as a stable gateway between Europe, the Gulf and the wider region.
16:23So what does Jordan want from Brussels?
16:26And what can it offer Europe in return?
16:29To learn more about this, I'm now joined by Jordan's Investment Minister, Tarek Abu Ghazale.
16:35Good morning, sir, and welcome to the program.
16:37Good morning, Stefan.
16:37So you're in Brussels asking Europe to invest more in your country.
16:44What is the single biggest reason for a European investor to put money in Jordan?
16:52Simply, any investor is looking for predictability.
16:55And due to what's happening not only in the region, in the whole world, growth is questionable now.
17:01And Jordan and Europe is working hard to elevate the comprehensive and strategic partnership
17:07to a level where there is a productive investment opportunity are available for investors
17:15to yield more growth and prosperity at the end of the day for all related nations.
17:21So the EU has committed around 3 billion euros to Jordan through 2027.
17:27What do you want from Brussels now that you're not getting from that package?
17:33Actually, we are having good talk with Brussels and we are working closely to make things happen properly.
17:41Now, Brussels is helping us on the technicalities of the investment opportunities, etc.,
17:49and supporting us in bringing to the conference high-level officials, interested investors,
17:57to make sure that dialogue is transforming from only talks to potential deals
18:04that will support as well the continuity of businesses and the modernity of the economical situation in Jordan and the
18:13region.
18:14Plus, as you mentioned, Jordan is becoming the safe gateway to support all neighbouring countries,
18:21ensure there is more cohesion between the plans and the economic integration in the Middle East.
18:27If I may, on that point, as you say, Jordan sees itself as a hub, a wider gateway into the
18:34Middle East.
18:34But for investors, it's also a very unstable region.
18:40So why should they choose Jordan rather than avoiding the region altogether?
18:46Because the region has a lot of potential in the future, and instability will fade out soon.
18:57So you have to be ready in order to ensure you seize the opportunity from now.
19:04Plus, Jordan has eventually showed all the investors that we have a resilient economy.
19:11For example, our capital market grew 40% in the last year, despite all non-stability in the market,
19:20and was named by Bloomberg as the first Arab productive and performance capital market.
19:29Our economy is growing steadily at 3%.
19:33All right. Sorry, Minister, I have to stop you here.
19:37That's all the time we have for today.
19:39Thank you for coming on the show.
19:40And that's it for today.
19:44I'm Stefan Grobe, and I'll see you tomorrow.
19:46Bye.
19:47Bye.
19:49Bye.
19:52Bye.
19:55Bye.
20:02Bye.

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