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Europe Today: Kallas speaks exclusively to Euronews as crucial EU summit kicks off

Kaja Kallas, the EU's top diplomat, speaks exclusively to Maria Tadeo as EU leaders arrive in Brussels for a crucial EU summit on spiralling energy prices, an unfinished seven-year budget, and Donald Trump's pressure on Ukraine. We also interview Abu Abughazaleh, the Jordanian Investment Minister.

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00:17EUROPE TODAY
00:18Good morning, it's Thursday, October 15th.
00:21You're watching Euronews and this is Europe Today.
00:24Coming up, spiraling energy prices, the EU's long-term budget and support for Ukraine
00:31in the wake of Donald Trump's latest pressure campaign.
00:33These are the topics that will dominate the conversation
00:36as the leaders of the EU gather for a two-day summit in Brussels today.
00:40The meeting will start in a couple of hours with a hotly anticipated discussion on energy prices,
00:46which hostilities in the Middle East have since skyrocketing.
00:50We'll discuss the issues live with EU High Representative Kaja Kallas, who is in our studio.
00:56Diesel markets will remain tight well into next year
00:59and wholesale diesel prices in Europe could rise again in the coming weeks,
01:03the International Energy Agency warned.
01:06In its monthly report, the Paris-based energy watchdog said
01:09recovering Gulf oil supplies had failed to resolve the fuel squeeze,
01:14with global outputs still falling short of consumptions.
01:17Supply rose by 2.5 million barrels a day in September to more than three-quarters of pre-war levels,
01:24but remains slightly below global demand, the IEA estimated.
01:29And 58 members of the European Parliament have urged the EU Commission
01:33to shield the International Criminal Court from U.S. sanctions that threaten to disrupt its operations.
01:40In a letter seen by Euronews, the members called and commissioned President von der Leyen
01:45to defend the Hague-based court against what they described as
01:49an attack by a foreign power on an entity on EU territory.
01:54The Trump administration had announced fresh sanctions against the ICC last Friday,
01:59following repeated criticism of the court over its arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
02:05Welcome to the program. I'm Stefan Grobe.
02:09EU leaders are meeting in Brussels today for a heavy agenda involving the EU's next seven-year budget.
02:16The gathering takes place amid deteriorating relations between the U.S. and Europe over Ukraine.
02:23And now, let's go directly to my colleague Maria Tudeo, who is with a special guest, the EU High Representative
02:30Kaya Kalas.
02:31Yes, absolutely, Stefan. Good morning.
02:33And, Madame Kalas, good morning. Thank you for joining us on Euronews.
02:37This has been a difficult week, a dramatic week, some would suggest.
02:41It started with that diesel deal with Russia, and now there seems to be real operational issues
02:45when it comes to the intel on the ground in Ukraine. The president of Ukraine, Zelensky, says this is a
02:51betrayal.
02:52It feels like a betrayal. Has the U.S. president betrayed Ukraine and, by extension, the Europeans?
02:58Well, the diesel deal is definitely a gift to Putin. The question is what is he giving in return?
03:05What we see, he's actually increasing the attacks on the civilian and civilian infrastructure.
03:10The ceasefire that was also announced is not really working on the Russian side.
03:16And to that point, the president of Ukraine seems to indicate in an interview with the FT
03:20that he is prepared and will hit back Russian refineries.
03:25There is a clash of visions here. The president of the U.S. says, don't hit them.
03:29We need them because there is an energy crisis.
03:32It started with the Strait of Hormuz.
03:34The Ukrainians say we have to because that is the core of the operation, the moneymaker for Russia.
03:39In your view as a top European diplomat, should Ukraine hit them?
03:42I mean, the core issue is that Russia should stop this war.
03:46So there wouldn't be any attacks on the refineries either.
03:51But, you know, if we look at the big picture, then the majority of the financing for this war comes
03:59from oil.
03:59And that is why Ukraine is also targeting them, while Russia is targeting the energy infrastructure inside Ukraine
04:08to cause as much suffering for the Ukrainian people for the upcoming winter.
04:12And this is an escalation we've seen since August on the cities.
04:16But just to pick up on this point, would you say, yes, the president of Ukraine has a legitimate point?
04:21He is right to hit the refineries.
04:24Yes, if we look at the, you know, the international law, it is clear that it is in defense of
04:30Ukraine,
04:31because that is where the funding comes for this war to kill Ukrainian people every day.
04:36And to me, it seems the administration is looking currently at this scenario,
04:40suggesting that the war is now not going to change.
04:43That line on the battlefield, that is the end of it.
04:46And you have to make a deal.
04:48They seem to think that with Russia, it's a matter of business, financial incentives.
04:53We see that with diesel reports that they may want to use some of the frozen assets,
04:57potentially give them to Russia.
04:59Is the administration wrong?
05:01Are they just miscalculating fully what Vladimir Putin wants?
05:06Well, clearly, you know, we have to see the bigger picture,
05:09which is that we have one aggressor and one victim.
05:12So pressuring the victim to surrender is maybe bringing the pause to this war,
05:18but not, you know, in long term.
05:20And that's why the pressure should be on the aggressor, what we are doing on the European side.
05:25And if we would do this together with U.S., then the message to Russia would be clear.
05:31Stop this war and all your, you know, worries when it comes to oil refineries and whatnot will also stop.
05:38To me, from the outside, what it seems, however, is we are a point of rupture.
05:43The U.S. has taken on a very different path compared to that of the Europeans.
05:46Do you look at it and you say, we need a wake up call?
05:49It is just a moment of we need to put our own plan.
05:53And why has that not happened now?
05:54Well, we have put our own plan.
05:57And that is a clear message also to Russia that, you know, all these things that they are interested in,
06:04lifting the sanctions, I mean, getting, you know, the release of frozen assets,
06:09that's actually up to the Europeans to decide.
06:11Now, Russians want to discuss and negotiate with U.S. so that U.S. would deliver them what they want.
06:18So, you know, Europe is just a nuisance here.
06:21But actually, you know, we have our own requests for Russia because they have started this war.
06:28We want to make sure that they don't continue.
06:31Also, you know, the sabotage acts, hybrid attacks that they have on European soil.
06:36So clearly, clearly, you know, the message is there that, you know, you need to talk to the Europeans as
06:42well.
06:42But it seems to me, and I say this with all due respect because the EU is a complex institution,
06:48the capitals too,
06:49but there is a lack of leadership.
06:50When you are blindsided every four months, when you're not really at the heart of the negotiations,
06:55when the hybrid attack escalates, the message I get is that the U.S. does not respect the perspective of
07:01the Europeans
07:02and that Russia is willing to test them. Why? Where is the failure coming from?
07:06Because the calculation is that, you know, if Russia and U.S. agree, then, you know, Russia will get what
07:13they want.
07:14But they have miscalculated because, you know, when was the Anchorage agreement?
07:19It was August last year. So it is more than a year that they have tried to pressure Ukraine.
07:26But the but the calculus has been wrong because Europeans have been supporting Ukraine and Ukraine has not surrendered,
07:34even though Americans have been pressuring.
07:37And yet I see a very difficult political calendar with the elections that are lining up in Europe.
07:43Yesterday, Marine Le Pen was in Brussels and she said, and this is a quote,
07:46France is not in a position where it can't pay for Ukraine anymore.
07:50If others want to pay, they can. But France will not pay. They cannot do it anymore.
07:54When you hear that, are you concerned? Because it seems to me the political tide is not working in favor
07:59of Ukraine.
08:00It is true that we are all democracies and a lot of elections are coming up.
08:05And also there are a lot of, you know, the public support is also in a different place than it
08:11was, you know, four years ago.
08:13That's also very clear. But this is what the Russians are actually, you know, playing at.
08:17That they are playing at, that the Europeans will get tired and then they will get what they want.
08:24And what I want to stress is that then we will only have a pause and the appetite for them
08:30will grow.
08:30And to that point, there is a financial cost.
08:33However, the Europeans, let's be honest, can they pay 100 billion?
08:37Assuming maybe that's the number we're looking at to help the Ukrainians.
08:42Who is going to finance this?
08:44And ultimately, is it not just obvious that you've got to tap into the Russian frozen assets before the Americans
08:49do it?
08:49Well, the frozen assets are frozen in Europe. And also, I mean, the agreement between the European leaders is that
08:58they are going to remain frozen until Russia pays reparations.
09:03So, yes, clearly a lot of member states are pointing at these 200 billion that, you know, we should take
09:09this money that Ukraine needs from these frozen assets.
09:12And what's it going to take to change dynamics then?
09:16What's it going to take? It's going to take a clear plan to actually, you know, divide the risk.
09:24Because, yes, some member states have the frozen assets. They are afraid of the risk that comes to their way.
09:30If all the member states would share the risk...
09:34Is that idea still alive?
09:35Yes, it is. It is still alive. But, you know, also the clear plan needs to come.
09:43And just, High Representative, as a final point, over the past six months, there has been a campaign, something I've
09:49not seen in a long time in Brussels,
09:50to undermine your work and your institution. What I see today is a High Representative that is determined and is
09:57not going anywhere.
09:58Are you going to fight for your institution?
10:00Of course, of course, I'm going to fight. And it's a good institution, meaning that we do a lot of
10:07good work.
10:07The EU delegations that everybody is very happy with are working well for also the member states.
10:13I think this is the moment in time where we need to be effective in our foreign policy.
10:18We need to be united. And that's why the discussions, I actually welcome how can we make them more effective.
10:24And that's your message to the capitals too? That you will be on top of this dossier?
10:28Yes, absolutely. And that has been my message and also the message of my Secretary General who has been traveling.
10:35I see you revitalized this morning. I see you energized. Is that how you feel?
10:40Absolutely. I mean, you know, tough times need to have a tough, you know, stance.
10:46Well, to that point, Kaya Callas, thank you so much for joining us on Euronews this morning.
10:50Stefan.
10:52Thank you, Maria. And thank you, High Representative Kaya Callas.
10:56Europe is facing a strategic choice over its future borders.
11:00With Ukraine, Moldova and the Western Balkans pressing for EU membership,
11:04enlargement is back at the heart of the European debate.
11:07Austria is proposing a new approach, giving candidate countries access to the single market as they complete reforms,
11:15rather than making them wait for full membership.
11:18But does that accelerate enlargement or risk creating a permanent halfway house?
11:24Yesterday, I had a chance to speak to Austria's Foreign Minister, Beate Meiner Reisinger, to discuss her proposal.
11:30And I started by asking her why the enlargement process is moving so slowly.
11:35Is it because the candidate countries are lacking reforms or because of political reluctance inside the EU itself?
11:43Here's what she said.
11:46There are so many countries now in the waiting room for or have been in the waiting room for over
11:5020 years,
11:52especially those countries from the Western Balkans.
11:55And you know that Austria is a fierce promoter of Western Balkan accession.
11:59I think it's both.
12:00First, it's a very complicated and bureaucratic process.
12:04And it's hard to do reforms, to reform everything in your country, which is what we ask for from these
12:11states.
12:12But on the other hand, it's also a little bit, well, not only political reluctance,
12:18but also bureaucratic reluctance of Brussels not being able to promote ideas like this asexual integration,
12:31this step-by-step membership as we introduce now into the discussion.
12:35On that point, Austria has proposed to give EU candidates access to parts of the single market before they become
12:42members.
12:43Isn't this essentially EU membership a la carte?
12:47No, it's not a la carte because this is not a membership only in a single point.
12:52And that's it then.
12:53The target, the goal is always full membership.
12:57But what we have seen now over the last two decades is that those exceeding countries, they do reforms in
13:04some countries on a faster pace
13:06and some a little bit more slowly, but they do reforms.
13:10But it has been always everything or nothing.
13:13So if you do all the reforms, you get eventually the full membership.
13:18And now this idea of step-by-step membership, it's a development out of our gradual integration approach,
13:25means that if you do reforms in a respective area, you can enter the single market there.
13:30So it's not like, I don't know, an elevator you take.
13:35It's not getting any faster, but you see the effects of the reforms immediately.
13:41Now, there are fewer than half of Austrians who currently support EU enlargement.
13:46Why should Austrian taxpayers and voters see another enlargement as being in their interest?
13:53Well, actually, that is our communication job.
13:56And I see the numbers as well.
13:57And I'm a little bit wondering what has been the communication over the last two decades,
14:02because Austria is among the top investors in nearly all exceeding countries, especially in the Western Balkans,
14:10but also take, for example, Ukraine.
14:14I think Austria has been the sixth largest investor there.
14:17More than 200 companies are already there.
14:19With every enlargement round we made, after Austria was a full member of the European Union,
14:25and we saw that Austria benefited enormously so that wealth in our own country and jobs have been created.
14:35Now, finally, if the EU doesn't offer the Western Balkans a credible part to membership now,
14:42are we effectively handing the region to Russia and China?
14:45Yes, we are.
14:46I always say there is no such thing as a vacuum in EU politics.
14:51And the enlargement is the most powerful and important EU strategic instrument the European Union has.
15:01So it is primarily, in my opinion, a political decision to be taken that we say, no, this is our
15:09backyard.
15:09We want the countries of the Western Balkans, we want also Ukraine, Moldova to be part of the European Union.
15:18But apart from that, we are not only an internal market, we are also a union created out of values.
15:25So they have to do the reforms, but we have to find possibilities how to make it much quicker than
15:32in the past.
15:33Once again, for Western Balkan countries, there has been more than two decades, and we are losing the population there.
15:40And if the population is getting frustrated, it's very easy for Russia or China or the US to enter those
15:47countries.
15:51Austria's Foreign Minister Beate Meiner Reisinger.
15:54And now to the Middle East, but not to Iran.
15:58Jordan is looking to turn its partnership with the European Union into a major economic opportunity.
16:03With billions of euros on the table, Amman wants European investment in everything from energy and infrastructure to technology and
16:12logistics.
16:13But beyond the money, this is also about geopolitics.
16:17As wars and instability reshape the Middle East, Jordan is positioning itself as a stable gateway between Europe, the Gulf
16:25and the wider region.
16:26So what does Jordan want from Brussels? And what can it offer Europe in return?
16:32To learn more about this, I'm now joined by Jordan's Investment Minister, Tarek Abu Ghazali.
16:38Good morning, sir, and welcome to the program.
16:40Good morning, Chef Finn.
16:41So you are in Brussels asking Europe to invest more in your country.
16:47What is the single biggest reason for a European investor to put money in Jordan?
16:55Simply, any investor is looking for predictability.
16:58And due to what's happening not only in the region, in the whole world, growth is questionable now.
17:04And Jordan and Europe is working hard to elevate the comprehensive and strategic partnership
17:11to a level where there is a productive investment opportunity available for investors to yield more growth and prosperity at
17:22the end of the day for all related nations.
17:25So the EU has committed around 3 billion euros to Jordan through 2027.
17:30What do you want from Brussels now that you're not getting from that package?
17:36Actually, we are having good talk with Brussels and we are working closely to make things happen properly.
17:45Now, Brussels is helping us on the technicalities of the investment opportunities, etc.
17:52and supporting us in bringing to the conference high level officials, interested investors to make sure that dialogue is transforming
18:03from only talks to potential deals
18:07that will support as well the continuity of businesses and the modernity of the economical situation in Jordan and the
18:16region.
18:16Plus, as you mentioned, Jordan is becoming the safe gateway to support all neighbouring countries,
18:24ensure there is more cohesion between the plans and the economic integration in the Middle East.
18:30If I may, on that point, as you say, Jordan sees itself as a hub, a wider gateway into the
18:37Middle East.
18:37But for investors, it's also a very unstable region. So why should they choose Jordan rather than avoiding the region
18:49altogether?
18:49Because the region has a lot of potential in the future and instability will fade out soon.
19:00So you have to be ready in order to ensure you seize the opportunity from now.
19:07Plus, Jordan has eventually showed all the investors that we have a resilient economy.
19:14For example, our capital market grew 40% in the last year, despite all the instability in the market,
19:22and was named by Bloomberg as the first Arab productive and performance capital market.
19:32Our economy is growing steadily at 3%.
19:37All right. Sorry, Minister, I have to stop you here. That's all the time we have for today.
19:42Thank you for coming on the show.
19:44And that's it for today. Thank you for watching. I'm Stefan Grobe, and I'll see you tomorrow.
19:59We'll see you tomorrow.

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